Board 8 > What do you think the strength is on Noctis?

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eaedwards6400
10/04/18 10:51:55 AM
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I am thinking he gets through Zero BUT I don't think there is any chance in hell he beats Pikachu. Thoughts?
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TheArkOfTurus
10/04/18 10:53:40 AM
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I have him losing to Wario, so... Not very high.
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WhiteLens
10/04/18 11:09:29 AM
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He could legitimately lose to Master Hand.
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eaedwards6400
10/04/18 11:11:59 AM
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I know the new smash is coming out but does Nintendo really have Square that pegged?
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pjbasis
10/04/18 11:16:18 AM
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Mac Arrowny
10/04/18 11:16:28 AM
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Weaker than Lightning.
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guffguy89
10/04/18 11:16:30 AM
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so is it confirmed that pikachu will beat Kratos? I was leaning Kratos there.
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KujikawaRising
10/04/18 11:21:45 AM
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FFXV campaign is a "You've played it or you haven't" sort of deal. Noctis does not have the immortality of Cloud or even Tidus (given how the laugh scene got meme'd). He's too new of a character to have the strength of nostalgia. Master Hand has been present since the 90s. A lot of voters will have memories of the first time they defeated him, whether that be in SSB or Melee or even Brawl.

I think Noctis is in trouble against Master Hand. That match is a tossup. And if he survives that, he has Wario or a rally to handle. I don't think he'll make it through round two.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
10/04/18 11:22:26 AM
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Weaker than Balthier. He was a fan favorite from a disappointing recent FF title but people still expected him to be strong since it was still a mainstream FF, but then the guy chokes to Ada Wong.

Noctis is pretty much in the same predicament, even though FFXV is more well received it's also a newer game but it's not fresh on everyone's mind anymore either so he's probably got Lightning-ish relapse now.
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scaryice
10/04/18 11:26:38 AM
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I'd also take Lightning over Noctis.
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pjbasis
10/04/18 11:35:49 AM
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I feel like Master Hand should be weaker than before, but he's in the contest in the first place so idk
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10/04/18 11:38:16 AM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Weaker than Lightning.

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Vlado
10/04/18 11:38:33 AM
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He's certainly not weaker than Lightning or Balthier. I'd take MH over both without a second thought. Noctis could beat MH.
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swordz9
10/04/18 11:40:42 AM
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Not good. I can see him losing to Master Hand and Id definitely take Lightning over him too. Expecting him to look really bad (like 60/65-40/35 bad
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plasmabeam
10/04/18 11:41:51 AM
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TheArkOfTurus posted...
I have him losing to Wario, so... Not very high.

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10/04/18 11:42:18 AM
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Vlado posted...
He's certainly not weaker than Lightning or Balthier. I'd take MH over both without a second thought. Noctis could beat MH.

What makes you think this?
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Axl_Rose_85
10/04/18 11:42:57 AM
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WhiteLens posted...
He could legitimately lose to Master Hand.
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Lopen
10/04/18 11:46:36 AM
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7% on Base Link.
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Vlado
10/04/18 11:47:00 AM
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Vlado posted...
He's certainly not weaker than Lightning or Balthier. I'd take MH over both without a second thought. Noctis could beat MH.

What makes you think this?

Balthier is way in the past now, from a rather lukewarm entry in the series, Lightning is disliked. Noctis is actually liked, his problem vs. Lightning is merely that his game hasn't been played by as many people... *checks* XV's sales are actually higher than XIII's and already close to VIII's... Really? I think that pretty much seals the deal.
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MariaTaylor
10/04/18 12:00:09 PM
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very, very low.

KujikawaRising posted...
I think Noctis is in trouble against Master Hand.


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Menji
10/04/18 12:02:53 PM
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Struggle or lose to MH
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MZero11
10/04/18 12:05:50 PM
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Beats Master Hand and Wario before losing respectably to Zero

He has a good design which will help, and FFXV has sold pretty well. I think he'll be a bit stronger than Lightning
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ZenOfThunder
10/04/18 12:18:54 PM
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just above the fodder line
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Ranticoot
10/04/18 1:14:10 PM
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He should be better than friggin' Kuja, that's still not good enough to comfortably beat Master Hand.

I took him to Round 3 where Zero will paste him. I can't think of a single Nintendo character I could have less confidence in winning two matches than Wario, so once I see someone that's "good enough" give me them.
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CelesMyUserName
10/04/18 1:19:11 PM
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Vlado posted...
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Vlado posted...
He's certainly not weaker than Lightning or Balthier. I'd take MH over both without a second thought. Noctis could beat MH.

What makes you think this?

Balthier is way in the past now, from a rather lukewarm entry in the series, Lightning is disliked. Noctis is actually liked, his problem vs. Lightning is merely that his game hasn't been played by as many people... *checks* XV's sales are actually higher than XIII's and already close to VIII's... Really? I think that pretty much seals the deal.

as much as Lightning is hated - and good god do I know how awful she is... she does actually have a fanbase who like bad characters

i'm not sure about any such noctis fanbase
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eaedwards6400
10/04/18 1:32:17 PM
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I recently saw a post on reddit that said that Noctis was the most requested Final Fantasy character to be added to KH3. If it counts for anything I think it probably makes him Riku level?
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10/04/18 1:35:23 PM
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eaedwards6400 posted...
I recently saw a post on reddit that said that Noctis was the most requested Final Fantasy character to be added to KH3. If it counts for anything I think it probably makes him Riku level?

That's probably just because he's the most obvious new addition from FF.
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