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voldothegr8 10/16/18 11:23:44 AM #1: |
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-10/b-nbo101118.php Let's not forget that every study done on this subject in the last 10 years all conclude that not only is spanking not necessary, but it is also damaging: https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201802/the-spanking-debate-is-over https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3768154/ It's almost like if you don't model violence to kids they won't repeat violence. Huh. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 7 (3) | THE Ohio State: 5-0 | Oakland Raiders: 1-3 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Menardii 10/16/18 11:24:19 AM #2: |
Tag
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SageHarpuiaHX 10/16/18 11:25:30 AM #3: |
Entitlement and thin skin however are at an all time high
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Cookie Bag 10/16/18 11:25:34 AM #4: |
inb4 i got spanked as a kid and grew just fine
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C_Pain 10/16/18 11:26:20 AM #5: |
Of course hitting your child is child abuse.
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The Trent 10/16/18 11:27:08 AM #6: |
what if you pick up one of your children and swing him to hit the other one
is that like a two negatives cancel out situation --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 10/16/18 11:27:31 AM #7: |
BUT MUH MURICAN BOOTSTRAPS
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halomonkey1_3_5 10/16/18 11:27:57 AM #8: |
yeah but
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Newhopes 10/16/18 11:29:50 AM #9: |
Kids know they can get away with just about anything those days and because they know that they have no respect for authority, it's the reason younger generation are the arrogant entitle little tw-ts they currently are.
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King_Hellebuyck 10/16/18 11:31:33 AM #10: |
Yeah seems pretty obvious - if you teach your kids that you deal with behavior you dont like by being violent, of course theyre going to be violent against others.
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Rimmer_Dall 10/16/18 11:39:44 AM #11: |
The Trent posted...
what if you pick up one of your children and swing him to hit the other one --- "The cheese it yours turtles." ~ William Shakespeare ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aki_sora 10/16/18 11:47:23 AM #12: |
And more parents will don't care if their children cry at public.
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voldothegr8 10/16/18 12:10:18 PM #13: |
aki_sora posted...
And more parents will don't care if their children cry at public. What? --- Oda break tracker 2018- 7 (3) | THE Ohio State: 5-0 | Oakland Raiders: 1-3 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 10/16/18 12:12:00 PM #14: |
The fact that some people think that not spanking means not disciplining is so crazy to me
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voldothegr8 10/16/18 12:36:30 PM #15: |
Mr_Biscuit posted...
The fact that some people think that not spanking means not disciplining is so crazy to me The problem is a lot of parents don't parent and take the "easy" route of pain for discipline. Plus their parents did it to them so what could go wrong? --- Oda break tracker 2018- 7 (3) | THE Ohio State: 5-0 | Oakland Raiders: 1-3 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LimboTraveller 10/16/18 12:42:28 PM #16: |
hitler was spanked by his parents
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King_Hellebuyck 10/16/18 12:58:40 PM #17: |
Mr_Biscuit posted...
The fact that some people think that not spanking means not disciplining is so crazy to me Yeah definitely takes a special type of person to think physical pain is the only form of discipline --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/16/18 1:01:12 PM #18: |
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voldothegr8 10/16/18 1:20:49 PM #19: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
in other news water is wet For you and me sure, but many people still think physical violence towards children as punishment is a okay. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 7 (3) | THE Ohio State: 5-0 | Oakland Raiders: 1-3 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 10/16/18 1:22:59 PM #20: |
SageHarpuiaHX posted...
Entitlement and thin skin however are at an all time high I see no problems here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Lyonidias 10/16/18 1:24:58 PM #21: |
Clearly, perpetuating less violence is going to lead to, well, decreased violence, especially when parents are modeling it.
If you have to spank your kids, they dont respect you, they fear you. Fear and respect are not equivalent and children should not grow up wanting others to fear them. --- she's a killer queen uwu; ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 10/16/18 1:28:32 PM #22: |
Because this isn't a complex issue with tons of variables.
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King_Hellebuyck 10/16/18 1:34:03 PM #23: |
SaithSayer posted...
Because this isn't a complex issue with tons of variables. And every single study always demonstrates that not using physical violence against children makes them in to less violent adults, which is a good thing --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 10/16/18 1:35:32 PM #24: |
SaithSayer posted...
Because this isn't a complex issue with tons of variables. These associations held true even after taking account of other potentially influential factors, such as national wealth, the murder rate, and social programmes aiming to curb teens' exposure to violence at home and at school. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 7 (3) | THE Ohio State: 5-0 | Oakland Raiders: 1-3 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 10/16/18 1:37:05 PM #25: |
Darklit_Minuet posted...
SageHarpuiaHX posted...Entitlement and thin skin however are at an all time high Hes also wrong if he thinks physical discipline is the only way to eliminate that. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 10/16/18 1:39:01 PM #26: |
A lot of great people have come from both sides of this. Kids are different. What works for one doesn't always work for the next. There's also corporal punishment for DISCIPLINE as opposed to doing so just to get out your own frustrations.
On the flip side, you see the violent thug types and people jump to "He didn't get his ass busted enough as a child!" when some of those people got it and some didn't. It also comes down to whether or not they get POSITIVE attention as well. Taken to the park, engaging conversations that aren't smalltalk, etc... Everything within moderation and reason. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperMedz3 10/16/18 1:42:45 PM #27: |
I watched a Judge Mathis episode were he said black people are more violent because in the black community it is still common to use the belt.
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prince_leo 10/16/18 1:56:12 PM #28: |
Seems obvious but some people still refuse to accept it
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King_Hellebuyck 10/16/18 2:00:42 PM #29: |
SaithSayer posted...
A lot of great people have come from both sides of this. Kids are different. What works for one doesn't always work for the next. There's also corporal punishment for DISCIPLINE as opposed to doing so just to get out your own frustrations. Oh wow this gamefaqs post is definitely equivalent to all the studies proving that you shouldnt be violent with children --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 10/16/18 2:41:09 PM #30: |
SaithSayer posted...
A lot of great people have come from both sides of this. Kids are different. What works for one doesn't always work for the next. There's also corporal punishment for DISCIPLINE as opposed to doing so just to get out your own frustrations. Except for violence against kids which even in moderation can be scarring --- Oda break tracker 2018- 7 (3) | THE Ohio State: 5-0 | Oakland Raiders: 1-3 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuiaHX 10/16/18 2:42:34 PM #31: |
VipaGTS posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...SageHarpuiaHX posted...Entitlement and thin skin however are at an all time high I didn't say it was but you're only fooling yourself if you don't think there's a connection ... Copied to Clipboard!
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soylentgreen 10/16/18 2:43:06 PM #32: |
about time those hack scientists did something right
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mario2000 10/16/18 2:44:36 PM #33: |
SageHarpuiaHX posted...
Entitlement and thin skin however are at an all time high fortunately the baby boomers won't be around for much longer --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 10/16/18 2:45:56 PM #34: |
SageHarpuiaHX posted...
VipaGTS posted...Darklit_Minuet posted...SageHarpuiaHX posted...Entitlement and thin skin however are at an all time high Its weird how much you want to justify physically hurting children despite evidence demonstrating that its detrimental and is more likely to turn them into violent adults. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperMedz3 10/16/18 2:48:02 PM #35: |
mario2000 posted...
SageHarpuiaHX posted...Entitlement and thin skin however are at an all time high The generation who worked for everything they have and were raised by the greatest generation is thin skinned? --- Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/16/18 2:49:19 PM #36: |
And for some reason, people continue to find reasons to whine about why they need to smack around defenseless children .
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mario2000 10/16/18 2:49:38 PM #37: |
SuperMedz3 posted...
mario2000 posted...SageHarpuiaHX posted...Entitlement and thin skin however are at an all time high this post...is beautiful --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 10/16/18 2:50:49 PM #38: |
Spanking studies don't factor in a lot of important elements that are required to determine whether or not spanking can be effective.
1 - How often was the child spanked? 2 - Was the child warned beforehand? 3 - Was another method of discipline used before spanking? 4 - Where was the child spanked? 5 - How hard was the child spanked? 6 - Was the parent angry when the child was spanked? 7 - Did the child understand why they were being spanked? Studies can't factor all of these things in (and more), because they can't be that invasive, and they can't expect people to be honest in their reporting on these factors. I think the results of these spanking studies show that spanking can be easily misused, but not that it is entirely bad. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/16/18 2:52:06 PM #39: |
"Don't hit Nazis just because they disagree with you. Violence is bad and makes no one like you!
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soylentgreen 10/16/18 2:53:25 PM #40: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Spanking studies don't factor in a lot of important elements that are required to determine whether or not spanking can be effective. i hate posts like this so proud of your ignorance just because you can't see how its done doesn't make it impossible and then in the end its basically "i think its a little bit of both" sheeesh --- u lookin at the real lib now, wat u gonna do about it, u used to think u owned the street, bring it on, victory is sweet, heres ur receipt, wat u gonna do ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/16/18 2:54:42 PM #41: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Spanking studies don't factor in a lot of important elements that are required to determine whether or not spanking can be effective. "Please! There has to be a good reason I was hit and now I hit my own children! Clearly no one has ever accurately studied my family's patented right way to hit children! I have to be doing this for a good reason!" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 10/16/18 2:54:54 PM #42: |
hockeybub89 posted...
"Don't hit Nazis just because they disagree with you. Violence is bad and makes no one like you! Violence and discipline are not the same thing. "Hitting" and "spanking" translate very differently in people's minds. One is abuse, the other is discipline. Try being more honest with your arguments. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Middle hope 10/16/18 2:54:58 PM #43: |
Teaching kids that physical violence is a deterrent to unwanted behavior is a horrible idea. It's not a behavior that they should learn.
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voldothegr8 10/16/18 2:55:37 PM #44: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Spanking studies don't factor in a lot of important elements that are required to determine whether or not spanking can be effective. I can answer all those questions with the same response: it doesn't matter. Modeling violence towards children regardless of the circumstances is wrong and every modern study agrees. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 7 (3) | THE Ohio State: 5-0 | Oakland Raiders: 1-3 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 10/16/18 2:55:59 PM #45: |
soylentgreen posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...Spanking studies don't factor in a lot of important elements that are required to determine whether or not spanking can be effective. I'm ignorant because I dig more deeply into the topic than you? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 10/16/18 2:56:26 PM #46: |
voldothegr8 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...Spanking studies don't factor in a lot of important elements that are required to determine whether or not spanking can be effective. Violence and discipline are not the same thing. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 10/16/18 2:56:30 PM #47: |
lol
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soylentgreen 10/16/18 2:57:13 PM #48: |
discipline through violence is violence
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hockeybub89 10/16/18 2:57:40 PM #49: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
hockeybub89 posted..."Don't hit Nazis just because they disagree with you. Violence is bad and makes no one like you! Violent discipline that you could substitute with non-violent discipline. You're the one being dishonest. Football is violent, but no one would think I mean it's attempted murder if I say that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 10/16/18 2:58:18 PM #50: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Violence and discipline are not the same thing. soylentgreen posted... discipline through violence is violence --- Oda break tracker 2018- 7 (3) | THE Ohio State: 5-0 | Oakland Raiders: 1-3 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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