Current Events > Getting all of Gau's Rages....

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Never done this before, but damn is there a lot of rages to collect. It wouldnt be as bad if you learned everything in between when you leap and he comes back instead of just learning the battle he leaped on and the one he came back on.

Side note: As someone who always just ditched Gau before and never really used him, he is now one of my favorites.
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Nothing sucks more than having a good enemy show up while Gau is away
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CapnMuffin posted...

Nothing sucks more than having a good enemy show up while Gau is away

especially when you dont see that enemy again for over an hour, ugh
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anyone know if you can still get world of balance rages in the world of ruin still?
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solosnake posted...

anyone know if you can still get world of balance rages in the world of ruin still?

Some enemies that you encountered will not appear in World of Ruin, so no.
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solosnake posted...

anyone know if you can still get world of balance rages in the world of ruin still?

for SNES / GBA, no.

For mobile, they fixed that so you can get all the WoB shit you missed (except things like Ultima Sword)--the only thing you CAN'T get are some bestiary entries if you miss them. There's one enemy that is only found by failing to follow the light on your return to narshe although I can't remember which one.
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Gau had so many abilities I could never bother to figure out what they all do. I would basically just pick one strong one and stick with it
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I'm playing on the SNES cart. I know you cant find the enemies in the wild in the world of ruin, but if i have already found them, they still wont appear in the world of ruin veldt either? sorry if thats confusing
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That's right, they will not.
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eston posted...

Gau had so many abilities I could never bother to figure out what they all do. I would basically just pick one strong one and stick with it

theres over 200 of them, it is insane. I have probably played through this game a dozen times and never really used gau before. He is easily the most powerful character in the game at least in world of balance
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happibivouac posted...

That's right, they will not.

damnit! What a pain lol
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It's so not worth it too. Gau sucks
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Gau just sucks to use.

- Rages are annoying to get in general
- Once you put him in rage he wont accept commands until he dies or the battle ends
- Basically have to use a guide to know what any of his rages do and to figure out which ones are worth using
- Using a normal party member in a game with 12 of them (not counting Umaro whos just Berserk the whole time) is so much easier and you can completely cut Gau out of the party after you get him (since even in 3-party dungeons you have more characters than you can fit in all 3 parties)
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Alpha218 posted...

Gau just sucks to use.

- Rages are annoying to get in general
- Once you put him in rage he wont accept commands until he dies or the battle ends
- Basically have to use a guide to know what any of his rages do and to figure out which ones are worth using
- Using a normal party member in a game with 12 of them (not counting Umaro whos just Berserk the whole time) is so much easier and you can completely cut Gau out of the party after you get him

thats what ive always done, but im going for a perfect file on my snes cart. Gau is actually really good
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Gau is awesome with the right rages set. He just kinda does his own thing. Spamming Life 3 and other high level spells for free can't be understated.
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My usual method with Gau is:

- Get Stray Cat in WoB
- Get someone with an AoE special, maybe two

Random battles -> AoE
Bosses -> CAT SCRATCH 4 DAYZ
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solosnake posted...

As someone who always just ditched Gau before and never really used him, he is now one of my favorites.

Same! In my last playthrough I decided to go ahead and give the whole cast a fair shake instead of just leaning on half of them like I usually do, and Gau became my runaway favorite because of how unique his gimmick was and how self-sufficient he is.

I did try to get all the rages for completions sake, but there's really no reason for it otherwise. I really only used about ten of them (one for all the elements, Magic Urn for curaga spam and tankiness, Rafflesia for Entice, Stray Cat and Mu because duh, eventually upgrading from Meteor on the Behemoth to the Retainer's Shock for non-elemental damage).

Entice is legit amazing. It can be blocked by an enemy's magic evasion, but if it hits it's perma confuse on anything, including bosses. Using it felt a little like rooting about in a debug mode or something.
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philsov posted...

My usual method with Gau is:

- Get Stray Cat in WoB
- Get someone with an AoE special, maybe two

Random battles -> AoE
Bosses -> CAT SCRATCH 4 DAYZ

That's the only way to use Gau.
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happibivouac posted...

philsov posted...

My usual method with Gau is:

- Get Stray Cat in WoB
- Get someone with an AoE special, maybe two

Random battles -> AoE
Bosses -> CAT SCRATCH 4 DAYZ

That's the only way to use Gau.

Rhinox has Life3 as a rage, which is ridiculous. Just set that rage and let Gau make your party become immortal.

ChickenLip rage! is one of your few Earth elemental attackers with Quake. You just have to make sure your party is floating before you use it or it will kill you too.

Doom Dragon's N.Cross skill also sets a unique paralysis status, ala Entice.

Seriously, Gau got so much free shit with his rages.
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I'm in thamasa getting close to the floating continent, which means im gonna have to make a check list and then grind the veldt to make sure i get all these wob rages.. lol
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hollow_shrine posted...

Rhinox has Life3 as a rage, which is ridiculous. Just set that rage and let Gau make your party become immortal.

yeah this one is insane especially how early you get it.
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You should already have encountered Cirpius, the bird enemy on Mt. Kolts before you recruit Sabin. That enemy's rage is Hastega. Full stop. Free full party Haste. I feel like Gau is a low-level game god with all these skills.
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hollow_shrine posted...

You should already have encountered Cirpius, the bird enemy on Mt. Kolts before you recruit Sabin. That enemy's rage is Hastega. Full stop. Free full party Haste. I feel like Gau is a low-level game god with all these skills.

nice, this was one of the first ones i got, but i havent used it yet.

I think thats part of the charm of gau he is completely broken with how powerful he is, but its so much you have to figure out and grind to get it that a vast majority of people will never even touch it or see it. This game is a masterpiece man
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eston posted...

Gau had so many abilities I could never bother to figure out what they all do. I would basically just pick one strong one and stick with it

stray cat is all you need tbh
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Gau is indispensable on challenge runs but for a regular play through the tedious nature of it isnt worth it other than for the novelty
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there are only 2 rages worth using
stray cat which is found early in the game and the one you will be using for most of the game and is the primary offensive rage

and magic urn which is found late in the game and is his main defensive rage

there is really no point in using any other rage than those 2
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Gau is garbage. Which is a shame, because he's cute af.
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solosnake posted...

I'm playing on the SNES cart. I know you cant find the enemies in the wild in the world of ruin, but if i have already found them, they still wont appear in the world of ruin veldt either? sorry if thats confusing

Incorrect. WoB enemies still appear on the Veldt in WoR, as long as you encountered them naturally during WoB.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

Incorrect. WoB enemies still appear on the Veldt in WoR, as long as you encountered them naturally during WoB.

now i dont know what to believe lol. I'll try to get as many as i can then create a second save i guess lol
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solosnake posted...

TrevorBlack79 posted...

Incorrect. WoB enemies still appear on the Veldt in WoR, as long as you encountered them naturally during WoB.

now i dont know what to believe lol. I'll try to get as many as i can then create a second save i guess lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/554041-final-fantasy-iii/faqs/35118

This is your Rage Bible. Specifically, section 6.2 details how enemy packs are encountered on the Veldt. You'll want to study this closely if you actually intend to collect all of Gau's rages. I mean, I've played the fuck out of FFVI - it's probably my most-played console game of all time. I have never had a complete Rage list. I've been close, and my current work in progress "perfect save" on my SNES cart has all but two. I've spent probably 20 or so hours looking for just those two monsters. But you have to make damn sure you encounter everything your first time through. My advice is to print off a checklist and physically check off the monsters you encounter. Maybe even start over. I mean, there's a couple easily missed monsters on the Phantom Train. There's the Narshe security checkpoint, which has a rare encounter with a second monster. There's a couple hard to find overworld creatures in WoB.

The one thing that isn't an issue is WoB monsters on the Veldt in WoR.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/554041-final-fantasy-iii/faqs/35118

This is your Rage Bible. Specifically, section 6.2 details how enemy packs are encountered on the Veldt. You'll want to study this closely if you actually intend to collect all of Gau's rages. I mean, I've played the f*** out of FFVI - it's probably my most-played console game of all time. I have never had a complete Rage list. I've been close, and my current work in progress "perfect save" on my SNES cart has all but two. I've spent probably 20 or so hours looking for just those two monsters. But you have to make damn sure you encounter everything your first time through.

The one thing that isn't an issue is WoB monsters on the Veldt in WoR.

thanks for this. I have been doing my best to encounter every enemy in every area. Hopefully I have also encountered them in the right packs as well.

Which two monsters are you missing, if you remember off hand?
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reading through the 6.2 section i may have misunderstood the packs. This only applies to monsters on the veldt?

I definitely noticed this with the grenade always being followed by the intangir
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Yes, packs only matter on the Veldt. You encounter a formation in the wild, then that formation is unlocked within its pack on the Veldt and you can encounter it there.

There are also tricks to skipping a number of packs all at once, but I don't recall how that works exactly. It should be somewhere in that FAQ.

I'm missing Io for sure. I don't remember the other offhand. I had it written down but now I can't find that either lol.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

There are also tricks to skipping a number of packs all at once, but I don't recall how that works exactly. It should be somewhere in that FAQ.

It sounds like the trick might only work effectively on an emulator with save states :(
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Now for some high-quality Veldt hunting! Let's say you want a rare Rage in a
crowded Pack. Let's say you want to get Test Rider (Flash Rain looks so gosh-
darn cool!). Now, just jump there using the above described trick and fight
until you've fought a battle from Pack 34. Now, the next battle *could* be Test
Rider. You try, yet see that it's Red Wolf x 3. Load again. Now every time you
fight, it *will* be that same Red Wolf x 3 monster formation. There's only one
way known so far to change the upcoming fight, and that's fighting a battle off
the Veldt. That's right, either take the Blackjack/Falcon to some non-Veldt
lands until you fight a normal random encounter, or (provided you're in the
WoR), dive into the Cave of the Veldt to kill some Toe Cutters or, if you're
lucky, Rhyos. Save, return to the Veldt and try another time. Missed again?
Repeat. Using this strategy, you'll be able to actually pick Rages from the
Veldt rather then having Gau Leap anything which happens to cross its path.
Note that this is an emulator-trick only, as cartridge Save and Load screws
with your location in the list.

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Gau's one of those characters that just sucks until you read up online all about how broken he can be and then it's all Stray Cat all day from here to eternity
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

I have never had a complete Rage list. I've been close, and my current work in progress "perfect save" on my SNES cart has all but two.

That is complete. Two monsters were cut from the NA version on the SNES. Sorry you wasted 20 hours for nothing.
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solosnake posted...

It sounds like the trick might only work effectively on an emulator with save states :(

Try playing with it anyway. I remember it still having uses, though not nearly as useful as if you're using emulation.

@Tyranthraxus posted...

That is complete. Two monsters were cut from the NA version on the SNES. Sorry you wasted 20 hours for nothing.

That's not true at all. The unavailable Rages are the same across versions, and I had accounted for them. I knew the specific monsters I was missing and that they could be Raged.

Though I can't disagree that the time was wasted.
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CapnMuffin posted...

Nothing sucks more than having a good enemy show up while Gau is away

Why the fuck would you be on Gaus island without him? Theres nothing there.
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Nomadic View posted...

CapnMuffin posted...

Nothing sucks more than having a good enemy show up while Gau is away

Why the fuck would you be on Gaus island without him? Theres nothing there.

AP farming, you don't gain xp on the Veldt.

It's still better to do this with Gau though and build your rage library while you're at it.
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Nomadic View posted...

CapnMuffin posted...

Nothing sucks more than having a good enemy show up while Gau is away

Why the fuck would you be on Gaus island without him? Theres nothing there.

Waiting for him to come back, of course.

I got a complete rage list the last time I played 6 (except for the ones you can't get)

It took a very long time and was not worth it at all
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That's why they're called Rages. :P

To be honest, I actually quite like missables. Obtaining them is a game in itself, and rewarding when you pull it off.

For the missables in this game, including Rages, I like this guide: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/554041-final-fantasy-iii/faqs/58436

Aren't a couple of rages impossible to get due to a programming glitch?
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I thought they were but I dunno.
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NeonOctopus posted...

Aren't a couple of rages impossible to get due to a programming glitch?

Yeah. And they're still glitched in the GBA version. There's also a few boss enemies that show up on the Veldt who don't actually have rages either. I don't think you're missing out on any of those rages though.
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there was a set up for gau on the snes known as wind god gau and it was blatantly overpowered
however you cant do it anymore on the GBA version so his usefullness took a nose dive on the GBA
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So going through everything, I am missing 10 rages up to the point just before the floating continent. I am nearly positive i didnt miss any of them during the story. Will probably grind a bit then do the floating continent then jump down and grind some more before continuing on to wor
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Don't escape the floating continent right away
When it asks if you want to jump off pick no
Then when you try a second time there Will be an option wait for shadow
So you have to wait for the timer to run out or else he dies
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