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Heineken14
10/17/18 10:45:23 AM
#51:


soylentgreen posted...
You people only care because you can smear Trump right? Like you don't care that things like this happen to around the world?

But be glad you live in America, there are some evil places.


Ah, was really waiting for the "the left doesn't REALLY care, they are just virtue signalling!" line of defense.
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Vyrulisse
10/17/18 10:47:51 AM
#52:


Heineken14 posted...
soylentgreen posted...
You people only care because you can smear Trump right? Like you don't care that things like this happen to around the world?

But be glad you live in America, there are some evil places.


Ah, was really waiting for the "the left doesn't REALLY care, they are just virtue signalling!" line of defense.

Well do they? Let's see how long the "outrage" lasts before they go right back to ignoring Saudi Arabia and all that over there.
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soylentgreen
10/17/18 10:48:01 AM
#53:


Who needs to be defended from this?

It's bad
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tremain07
10/17/18 10:48:50 AM
#54:


https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-saudi-crown-prince-denies-knowledge-of-khashoggi-disappearance

Compared this to how Dems treated Briett so now it's just asshurt liberals making a big deal out of nothing so decreeds fat donnie, the man who still thinks the central park 5 should be put to death, Obama was a secret muslim and Clinton should be locked up and a ton of other bullshit. Republicans sure love law and order when it benefits them
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Alpha218
10/17/18 10:50:54 AM
#55:


twitterfriends posted...
dont pretend the US hasnt done some evil ass shit in their history.

The only people I ever see making that argument are the ones either saying the US has no right to get upset that Russia meddled in the election or that we should ignore human rights abuses and extrajudicial murders in other countries

Not a good side to choose
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soylentgreen
10/17/18 10:51:59 AM
#56:


I can't believe how low the alt-left has gone. Now torture killings are a partisan issue.
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ledbowman
10/17/18 10:53:39 AM
#57:


Alpha218 posted...
twitterfriends posted...
dont pretend the US hasnt done some evil ass shit in their history.

The only people I ever see making that argument are the ones either saying the US has no right to get upset that Russia meddled in the election or that we should ignore human rights abuses and extrajudicial murders in other countries

Not a good side to choose

Not to mention our president is basically approving of this murder. "He says he feels like he didn't do it" or whatever shit he said when he got off the phone.
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Heineken14
10/17/18 10:54:41 AM
#58:


soylentgreen posted...
I can't believe how low the alt-left has gone. Now torture killings are a partisan issue.


Coming from people who say this....

soylentgreen posted...
You people only care because you can smear Trump right? Like you don't care that things like this happen to around the world?

But be glad you live in America, there are some evil places.


...yep. Totes the left, bruh.
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pikachupwnage
10/17/18 10:56:24 AM
#59:


eston posted...
happibivouac posted...
Legitimate question: Why is the Middle East this way?

This sort of thing isn't really specific to the middle east tbqh


This.

Vivisection is pretty rare for a internationally recognized government to carry out though.

It's usually powerful criminal organizations or serial killers that do this kind of shit

That said it's mainly religious extremism, nationalism/tribalism, and geopolitical tension with both the west and other middle eastern/Islamic states.

Said Arabia being a monarchy does not help matters
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Bloodychess
10/17/18 10:58:51 AM
#60:


twitterfriends posted...
People talk about MBS like hes The Rainmaker or something and Im not defending him or anything but dont pretend the US hasnt done some evil ass shit in their history.


Let's focus on the moment and not the past, mmkay?
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Ray_Dorset
10/17/18 10:58:51 AM
#61:


solosnake posted...
Those 15 men were rogue terrorists. though. Saudis had nothing to do with it

Would you blame saudi for 9/11?


Shame on you for trolling and shame on this website for allowing it.
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pikachupwnage
10/17/18 11:03:38 AM
#62:


twitterfriends posted...
People talk about MBS like hes The Rainmaker or something and Im not defending him or anything but dont pretend the US hasnt done some evil ass shit in their history.


When was the last time the US had a high ranking official acting in official capacity (regardless of any shitty denials) vivisect a journalist for being critical of the government? Or anyone for that matter?
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ComfortablySad
10/17/18 11:03:50 AM
#63:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
solosnake posted...
Those 15 men were rogue terrorists. though. Saudis had nothing to do with it

Would you blame saudi for 9/11?

Fuck off with this troll gimmick


What did you have to quote him for? I almost forgot he existed since I put him on ignore.
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iPhone_7
10/17/18 11:03:59 AM
#64:


I heard that the Saudis may have nothing to do with it, that it may have actually been rogue killers. Many people are saying it. Sad!
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Hop103
10/17/18 11:04:04 AM
#65:


Saudi Arabia is the poster child of political tyranny. It' time for the world ween off the oil teet of evil.
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Alpha218
10/17/18 11:05:33 AM
#66:


Hop103 posted...
Saudi Arabia is the poster child of political tyranny. It' time for the world ween off the oil teet of evil.

Good thing we elected Donald Trump, who is the most powerful climate change denier in the world.
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soylentgreen
10/17/18 11:08:16 AM
#67:


Alpha218 posted...
Good thing we elected Donald Trump, who is the most powerful climate change denier in the world.

perfect example right here

just get the hell outta here alt-lefters, you're not using this for political gain
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Ray_Dorset
10/17/18 11:13:18 AM
#68:


soylentgreen posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Good thing we elected Donald Trump, who is the most powerful climate change denier in the world.

perfect example right here

just get the hell outta here alt-lefters, you're not using this for political gain


womp womp

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Solar_Crimson
10/17/18 11:16:37 AM
#69:


soylentgreen posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Good thing we elected Donald Trump, who is the most powerful climate change denier in the world.

perfect example right here

just get the hell outta here alt-lefters, you're not using this for political gain

Way to miss the point to continue your meltdown over the "alt-left".
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teepan95
10/17/18 11:16:43 AM
#70:


ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
Turkish media isnt anymore trustworthy than andything coming from the Saudis tho

This

I have no doubt they murdered him, but I'd like an independent source to confirm that it was this brutal
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hockeybub89
10/17/18 11:17:51 AM
#71:


But someone in Congress isn't Native enough to say they have a Native ancestor! Real issues!
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AABLMD82
10/17/18 11:19:25 AM
#72:


teepan95 posted...
ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
Turkish media isnt anymore trustworthy than andything coming from the Saudis tho

This

I have no doubt they murdered him, but I'd like an independent source to confirm that it was this brutal


Theres not really a point in making that distinction. Killing him alone is awful and theres no way a third party can confirm or deny how violent it was.
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BJ-blazkowics
10/17/18 11:20:06 AM
#73:


Vyrulisse posted...
Heineken14 posted...
soylentgreen posted...
You people only care because you can smear Trump right? Like you don't care that things like this happen to around the world?

But be glad you live in America, there are some evil places.


Ah, was really waiting for the "the left doesn't REALLY care, they are just virtue signalling!" line of defense.

Well do they? Let's see how long the "outrage" lasts before they go right back to ignoring Saudi Arabia and all that over there.


Keep humping 45.

when he outlaws gay marriage or prohibits LGBTQ from adopting or even showing affection in public (Russia style) we'll see how happy you feel
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teepan95
10/17/18 11:21:30 AM
#74:


AABLMD82 posted...
teepan95 posted...
ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
Turkish media isnt anymore trustworthy than andything coming from the Saudis tho

This

I have no doubt they murdered him, but I'd like an independent source to confirm that it was this brutal


Theres not really a point in making that distinction. Killing him alone is awful and theres no way a third party can confirm or deny how violent it was.

Third party investigation. Boom.
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Unbreakable
10/17/18 11:24:08 AM
#75:


Wonder why Trump is siding with the Saudis...?

https://twitter.com/mobilematt/status/1052433550551777280
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soylentgreen
10/17/18 11:24:37 AM
#76:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Way to miss the point to continue your meltdown over the "alt-left".

whats his point?

*Horrible thing happens on Mars*

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Irregardless
10/17/18 11:25:18 AM
#77:


It's not like Trump siding with brutal dictators is a new thing
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AABLMD82
10/17/18 11:31:30 AM
#78:


teepan95 posted...
AABLMD82 posted...
teepan95 posted...
ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
Turkish media isnt anymore trustworthy than andything coming from the Saudis tho

This

I have no doubt they murdered him, but I'd like an independent source to confirm that it was this brutal


Theres not really a point in making that distinction. Killing him alone is awful and theres no way a third party can confirm or deny how violent it was.

Third party investigation. Boom.


But who can confirm that it happened? The people that performed the killing and those who cleaned it up, but good luck getting anything out of them.
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RoseIsHorriblle
10/17/18 11:32:04 AM
#79:


Somehow for liberals this is still Trump's fault. They probably think that he should just invade Saudi Arabia and when he does they will just say he is a warmonger.
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teepan95
10/17/18 11:33:25 AM
#80:


AABLMD82 posted...
teepan95 posted...
AABLMD82 posted...
teepan95 posted...
ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
Turkish media isnt anymore trustworthy than andything coming from the Saudis tho

This

I have no doubt they murdered him, but I'd like an independent source to confirm that it was this brutal


Theres not really a point in making that distinction. Killing him alone is awful and theres no way a third party can confirm or deny how violent it was.

Third party investigation. Boom.


But who can confirm that it happened? The people that performed the killing and those who cleaned it up, but good luck getting anything out of them.

So how did Turkey come to the conclusion that he was vivisected?

Whatever evidence turkey has, let them share it with e.g. NATO and see if they come to the same conclusion.
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Alpha218
10/17/18 11:34:44 AM
#81:


Dont even bother responding to soylent

Its patently clear hes someones (maybe madfoot) alt account that refuses to argue in good faith and will probably be banned in a few days

AABLMD82 posted...
teepan95 posted...
ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
Turkish media isnt anymore trustworthy than andything coming from the Saudis tho

This

I have no doubt they murdered him, but I'd like an independent source to confirm that it was this brutal


Theres not really a point in making that distinction. Killing him alone is awful and theres no way a third party can confirm or deny how violent it was.

It depends on whether the assertion that the Turks have the embassy bugged is true
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soylentgreen
10/17/18 11:39:13 AM
#82:


RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Somehow for liberals this is still Trump's fault. They probably think that he should just invade Saudi Arabia and when he does they will just say he is a warmonger.

hard to even learn about this because of all the alt-left slant

just want the details not how this proves you were right about trump
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Antifar
10/17/18 11:43:14 AM
#83:


RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Somehow for liberals this is still Trump's fault. They probably think that he should just invade Saudi Arabia and when he does they will just say he is a warmonger.

Invading Saudi Arabia would be a fucking catastrophe. Just don't give them the weapons with which they're dismembering Yemenis by the thousand.
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Lord_Shadow
10/17/18 11:44:37 AM
#84:


Antifar posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Somehow for liberals this is still Trump's fault. They probably think that he should just invade Saudi Arabia and when he does they will just say he is a warmonger.

Invading Saudi Arabia would be a fucking catastrophe. Just don't give them the weapons with which they're dismembering Yemenis by the thousand.

How would it be a catastrophe there's no way they can stand up against the might of that the United States military
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Coffeebeanz
10/17/18 11:45:23 AM
#85:


Lord_Shadow posted...
Antifar posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Somehow for liberals this is still Trump's fault. They probably think that he should just invade Saudi Arabia and when he does they will just say he is a warmonger.

Invading Saudi Arabia would be a fucking catastrophe. Just don't give them the weapons with which they're dismembering Yemenis by the thousand.

How would it be a catastrophe there's no way they can stand up against the might of that the United States military


I'm sure nothing bad will come from the US occupying Mecca
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Mr_Biscuit
10/17/18 11:46:21 AM
#86:


And Trump compares holding Saudi Arabia accountable to Kavanaughs situation

Lol
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cerealbox760
10/17/18 11:53:18 AM
#87:


The criticisms of Trump are unfair with this one. Obama would've have has his hands tied too. Saudis are a very important ally and many of you are underestimating the importance of the saudi alliance.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/17/18 11:55:33 AM
#88:


cerealbox760 posted...
The criticisms of Trump are unfair with this one. Obama would've have has his hands tied too. Saudis are a very important ally and many of you are underestimating the importance of the saudi alliance.

Im pretty sure Obama wouldnt have compared this to fake rape allegations and mob justice

I have no doubt hed have been in an uncomfortable situation, but as always, Trump picked just about the worst possible tact to take.
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Antifar
10/17/18 11:55:41 AM
#89:


cerealbox760 posted...
The criticisms of Trump are unfair with this one. Obama would've have has his hands tied too. Saudis are a very important ally and many of you are underestimating the importance of the saudi alliance.

Obama was hardly a paragon of virtue on this issue, but he did suspend arm sales to SA owing to their repeated murder of Yemeni civilians:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/saudi-arabia-arms-sale-yemen-war.html

The Trump administration resumed those sales, which are now being used to justify continuing ties with them:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-looks-to-resume-saudi-arms-sale-criticized-as-endangering-civilians-in-yemen/2017/03/08/a259090a-040e-11e7-b1e9-a05d3c21f7cf_story.html
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Lord_Shadow
10/17/18 11:57:28 AM
#90:


Both Trump and Obama were garbage on this issue doesn't mean we should continue being garbage on this issue the US should completely stop supporting the militarily stop selling them weapons completely embargo the country maybe even declare war you know for the entire 9/11 thing
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soylentgreen
10/17/18 11:58:58 AM
#91:


how stupid would it be, after 17 years of fighting someone else for 9/11 we declare war on another for 9/11
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iPhone_7
10/17/18 11:59:43 AM
#92:


The Saudis were not happy with Obama, especially during his second term.
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VectorChaos
10/17/18 12:06:26 PM
#93:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Lord_Shadow posted...
Antifar posted...
RoseIsHorriblle posted...
Somehow for liberals this is still Trump's fault. They probably think that he should just invade Saudi Arabia and when he does they will just say he is a warmonger.

Invading Saudi Arabia would be a fucking catastrophe. Just don't give them the weapons with which they're dismembering Yemenis by the thousand.

How would it be a catastrophe there's no way they can stand up against the might of that the United States military


I'm sure nothing bad will come from the US occupying Mecca


What if there's no more Mecca, just a smoldering crater

Can't have holy ground if we vaporize the ground

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ArchiePeck
10/17/18 12:09:32 PM
#94:


Turki Aldakhil, the head of Al Arabiya, the Saudi Arabian-owned pan-Arab television based in Dubai, wrote that "If President Trump was angered by $80 oil, nobody should rule out the price jumping to $100 and $200 a barrel or maybe double that figure."


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Eat More Beef
10/17/18 12:34:39 PM
#95:


soylentgreen posted...
how stupid would it be, after 17 years of fighting someone else for 9/11 we declare war on another for 9/11


Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/17/18 1:12:55 PM
#96:


Antifar posted...
cerealbox760 posted...
The criticisms of Trump are unfair with this one. Obama would've have has his hands tied too. Saudis are a very important ally and many of you are underestimating the importance of the saudi alliance.

Obama was hardly a paragon of virtue on this issue, but he did suspend arm sales to SA owing to their repeated murder of Yemeni civilians:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/saudi-arabia-arms-sale-yemen-war.html

The Trump administration resumed those sales, which are now being used to justify continuing ties with them:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-looks-to-resume-saudi-arms-sale-criticized-as-endangering-civilians-in-yemen/2017/03/08/a259090a-040e-11e7-b1e9-a05d3c21f7cf_story.html

Seems like too many people are missing out on this important fact. There might not be a ton we can do to stop them but we can certainly stop actively encouraging them via weapon sales.
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ekie
10/17/18 1:17:37 PM
#97:


ArchiePeck posted...
Turki Aldakhil, the head of Al Arabiya, the Saudi Arabian-owned pan-Arab television based in Dubai, wrote that "If President Trump was angered by $80 oil, nobody should rule out the price jumping to $100 and $200 a barrel or maybe double that figure."


LOL they have the western world by the balls.


Until they are deemed the axis of evil and turned into new Iraq
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SaithSayer
10/17/18 1:18:58 PM
#98:


All the more reason to pour tons of money and time into making solar power better.

Let's see how they wanna act when their oil isn't very needed anymore.
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Sad_Face
10/17/18 2:07:51 PM
#99:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Antifar posted...
cerealbox760 posted...
The criticisms of Trump are unfair with this one. Obama would've have has his hands tied too. Saudis are a very important ally and many of you are underestimating the importance of the saudi alliance.

Obama was hardly a paragon of virtue on this issue, but he did suspend arm sales to SA owing to their repeated murder of Yemeni civilians:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/saudi-arabia-arms-sale-yemen-war.html

The Trump administration resumed those sales, which are now being used to justify continuing ties with them:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-looks-to-resume-saudi-arms-sale-criticized-as-endangering-civilians-in-yemen/2017/03/08/a259090a-040e-11e7-b1e9-a05d3c21f7cf_story.html

Seems like too many people are missing out on this important fact. There might not be a ton we can do to stop them but we can certainly stop actively encouraging them via weapon sales.


It was only certain types of arms Obama restricted, and even then Saudi Arabia was also supplied with intelligence, fuel and other utilities to support their drones and planes in support of the Yemeni "war" during the Obama administration. I know Trump doesn't give a damn in the face of being able to say he created jobs and brought in money, but I won't hold Obama in a higher regard here when the coalition started under his watch.
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creativerealms
10/17/18 2:07:54 PM
#100:


iPhone_7 posted...
The Saudis were not happy with Obama, especially during his second term.

Only because he tried to make a deal with Iran.
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