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Pot of Greed

That combo is way way too slow and not good enough. Youll lose long before you get that on board.
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Yugi beat it with Monster Reborn didn't he?
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Yo I can't fuckin read the effects
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mind control boys
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Dark Hole
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- destroy the Spell/Trap cards
- remove Slifer from the field with an effect that doesn't target/destroy it (banish, return to hand, etc)
- tribute both of the monsters to give your opponent a Lava Golem

Easy.
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Jinzo
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Ra plot powers
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Calwings posted...

- destroy the Spell/Trap cards
- remove Slifer from the field with an effect that doesn't target/destroy it (banish, return to hand, etc)
- tribute both of the monsters to give your opponent a Lava Golem

Easy.

Hmm
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You could also tribute them for a Kaiju then summon your own Kaiju.
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That combo was bad even back then.
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Rikiaz posted...

You could also tribute them for a Kaiju then summon your own Kaiju.

Cards that tribute the opponent's monsters like that are so great for removal. Even if the opponent negates the summon, their monsters are already gone.
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GallisOTK posted...

Rikiaz posted...

You could also tribute them for a Kaiju then summon your own Kaiju.

Cards that tribute the opponent's monsters like that are so great for removal. Even if the opponent negates the summon, their monsters are already gone.

The introduction of Kaiju really changed the landscape of Yu-Gi-Oh! forever.
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Exodia.
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Duncanwii posted...

Yugi beat it with Monster Reborn didn't he?

He used a card to steal control of the Revival Jam which made Slifer auto-attack it. When Slifer killed it, Strings had to draw cards. The Jam revived, causing Slifer to attack it, and Strings had to draw more cards. It looped until Strings lost due to his deck being out.

And this combo doesn't actually work in the real game. Revival Jam only revives if you pay a thousand life points and only does so on your next turn. On the other hand, I don't think Yugi's counter would work either because Card of Safe Return lets you draw a card when something is summoned from your graveyard. I would assume if you steal the Jam, it goes to your graveyard.
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Rikiaz posted...

GallisOTK posted...

Rikiaz posted...

You could also tribute them for a Kaiju then summon your own Kaiju.

Cards that tribute the opponent's monsters like that are so great for removal. Even if the opponent negates the summon, their monsters are already gone.

The introduction of Kaiju really changed the landscape of Yu-Gi-Oh! forever.

Somewhat for the worst. You basically couldn't have boss monster reliant decks anymore, so every deck became super spammy or bust
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D.D warrior lady would destroy all of the egyption card cards
literally none of them are immune to her effect so set her face down on the field and banish them when they try to destroy her
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the god cards are nothing special to the game these days
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pegusus123456 posted...

Duncanwii posted...

Yugi beat it with Monster Reborn didn't he?

He used a card to steal control of the Revival Jam which made Slifer auto-attack it. When Slifer killed it, Strings had to draw cards. The Jam revived, causing Slifer to attack it, and Strings had to draw more cards. It looped until Strings lost due to his deck being out.

And this combo doesn't actually work in the real game. Revival Jam only revives if you pay a thousand life points and only does so on your next turn. On the other hand, I don't think Yugi's counter would work either because Card of Safe Return lets you draw a card when something is summoned from your graveyard. I would assume if you steal the Jam, it goes to your graveyard.

Nah, if you steal it and it is removed from the field it goes to the owner's graveyard

I'm unsure if it would be Yugi or strings who could choose to pay the 1000 Life Points to revive it though, I'd have to see the text and if it's a graveyard or a damage step resolution effect.
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Even better. Equip Mushroom Man with Moon Mirror Shield, attack the gods since they don't even have battle protection in the anime lul. Though I guess it'd be hard to keep him alive against Slifer >.>
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marik was truly ahead of the meta
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gunplagirl posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

Duncanwii posted...

Yugi beat it with Monster Reborn didn't he?

He used a card to steal control of the Revival Jam which made Slifer auto-attack it. When Slifer killed it, Strings had to draw cards. The Jam revived, causing Slifer to attack it, and Strings had to draw more cards. It looped until Strings lost due to his deck being out.

And this combo doesn't actually work in the real game. Revival Jam only revives if you pay a thousand life points and only does so on your next turn. On the other hand, I don't think Yugi's counter would work either because Card of Safe Return lets you draw a card when something is summoned from your graveyard. I would assume if you steal the Jam, it goes to your graveyard.

Nah, if you steal it and it is removed from the field it goes to the owner's graveyard

I'm unsure if it would be Yugi or strings who could choose to pay the 1000 Life Points to revive it though, I'd have to see the text and if it's a graveyard or a damage step resolution effect.

Anime/manga effects and rules are different

In theanga Dark Law is a vanilla but a badass irl
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gunplagirl posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

Duncanwii posted...

Yugi beat it with Monster Reborn didn't he?

He used a card to steal control of the Revival Jam which made Slifer auto-attack it. When Slifer killed it, Strings had to draw cards. The Jam revived, causing Slifer to attack it, and Strings had to draw more cards. It looped until Strings lost due to his deck being out.

And this combo doesn't actually work in the real game. Revival Jam only revives if you pay a thousand life points and only does so on your next turn. On the other hand, I don't think Yugi's counter would work either because Card of Safe Return lets you draw a card when something is summoned from your graveyard. I would assume if you steal the Jam, it goes to your graveyard.

Nah, if you steal it and it is removed from the field it goes to the owner's graveyard

I'm unsure if it would be Yugi or strings who could choose to pay the 1000 Life Points to revive it though, I'd have to see the text and if it's a graveyard or a damage step resolution effect.

Because I care way too much, I looked up the rulings and it looks like it's a graveyard effect that can be activated at the end of the damage step.

The monster effect of "Revival Jam" is a Trigger Effect that is activated in the Graveyard.[1]

Its effect can be activated at the end of the Damage Step in which it was destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard.[1]

In any case, I assume Yugi wouldn't be able to revive it on his side because it wouldn't be in his graveyard.
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A nuclear bomb.
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legendarylemur posted...

Rikiaz posted...

GallisOTK posted...

Rikiaz posted...

You could also tribute them for a Kaiju then summon your own Kaiju.

Cards that tribute the opponent's monsters like that are so great for removal. Even if the opponent negates the summon, their monsters are already gone.

The introduction of Kaiju really changed the landscape of Yu-Gi-Oh! forever.

Somewhat for the worst. You basically couldn't have boss monster reliant decks anymore, so every deck became super spammy or bust

I completely agree with that.
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pegusus123456 posted...

Duncanwii posted...

Yugi beat it with Monster Reborn didn't he?

He used a card to steal control of the Revival Jam which made Slifer auto-attack it. When Slifer killed it, Strings had to draw cards. The Jam revived, causing Slifer to attack it, and Strings had to draw more cards. It looped until Strings lost due to his deck being out.

And this combo doesn't actually work in the real game. Revival Jam only revives if you pay a thousand life points and only does so on your next turn. On the other hand, I don't think Yugi's counter would work either because Card of Safe Return lets you draw a card when something is summoned from your graveyard. I would assume if you steal the Jam, it goes to your graveyard.

Did this duel in the anime precede the real life cards?
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YoshitoKikuchi posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

Duncanwii posted...

Yugi beat it with Monster Reborn didn't he?

He used a card to steal control of the Revival Jam which made Slifer auto-attack it. When Slifer killed it, Strings had to draw cards. The Jam revived, causing Slifer to attack it, and Strings had to draw more cards. It looped until Strings lost due to his deck being out.

And this combo doesn't actually work in the real game. Revival Jam only revives if you pay a thousand life points and only does so on your next turn. On the other hand, I don't think Yugi's counter would work either because Card of Safe Return lets you draw a card when something is summoned from your graveyard. I would assume if you steal the Jam, it goes to your graveyard.

Did this duel in the anime precede the real life cards?

this was back when the anime was still playing fast and loose with the rules. a lot of cards (like the God Cards) had different effects in the anime, even when they started following the real rules more.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

AceMos posted...

the god cards are nothing special to the game these days

They work pretty well if you have all three at once.

9 tributes.
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The 3 tributes things really hurt the God cards and the inability to cheat them on the field with special summons.

Webmaster4531 posted...

JustMyOpinion posted...

AceMos posted...

the god cards are nothing special to the game these days

They work pretty well if you have all three at once.

9 tributes.

Ra has sphere mode which can use your opponent's monsters as tribute costs which can get out Ra without losing all your life points. But really it's just the set up in general is just a pain for cards who really aren't that strong.

There's also this guy:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Holactie_the_Creator_of_Light

But let's be honest if you ever summon this card you should have won many turns ago.
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Grab your opponents cards and rip them.

Step 1) Play Shapesnatch
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Stronger cards require 3 tributes but also include spells and traps as stuff you can tribute. There's no reason to use the gods, even with Sphere Mode, who's better than any form of Ra
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You can beat all those cards with a single lit match.
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Not to mention if you managed to summon all 3 somehow, you probably don't have a hand left so Slifer's a fancy 0 attack neg 4
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legendarylemur posted...

Stronger cards require 3 tributes but also include spells and traps as stuff you can tribute. There's no reason to use the gods, even with Sphere Mode, who's better than any form of Ra

You mean the Sacred Beasts?

They are far better then the Egyptian Gods, but still pretty bad.

Uriel requires you send continuous traps to the graveyard.
Hamon requires you send continuous spells to the graveyard.
Raviel requires fiend monsters.

Raviel is by far the easiest to summon. Uriel has the best effect. But they are all not good.
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pegusus123456 posted...

gunplagirl posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

Duncanwii posted...

Yugi beat it with Monster Reborn didn't he?

He used a card to steal control of the Revival Jam which made Slifer auto-attack it. When Slifer killed it, Strings had to draw cards. The Jam revived, causing Slifer to attack it, and Strings had to draw more cards. It looped until Strings lost due to his deck being out.

And this combo doesn't actually work in the real game. Revival Jam only revives if you pay a thousand life points and only does so on your next turn. On the other hand, I don't think Yugi's counter would work either because Card of Safe Return lets you draw a card when something is summoned from your graveyard. I would assume if you steal the Jam, it goes to your graveyard.

Nah, if you steal it and it is removed from the field it goes to the owner's graveyard

I'm unsure if it would be Yugi or strings who could choose to pay the 1000 Life Points to revive it though, I'd have to see the text and if it's a graveyard or a damage step resolution effect.

Because I care way too much, I looked up the rulings and it looks like it's a graveyard effect that can be activated at the end of the damage step.

The monster effect of "Revival Jam" is a Trigger Effect that is activated in the Graveyard.[1]

Its effect can be activated at the end of the Damage Step in which it was destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard.[1]

In any case, I assume Yugi wouldn't be able to revive it on his side because it wouldn't be in his graveyard.

Hmm, but would strings be able to? I know they have changed the rulings on a handful of cards from that point in the tcg over the years.
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No, I mean the True Dracos

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Peace,_the_True_Dracoslaying_King

Immune to anything the Gods can do, can out every single God with its pinkie

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Metaltron_XII,_the_True_Dracombatant

Not quite as crazy as the Gods by itself and isn't even run on True Dracos usually, but has a floating effect that probably outs every God
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How hilarious would it have been if Marik gave up all but 1 of his LP for Ra and then his opponent used some crappy direct damage spell/trap lol
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Tmaster148 posted...

Uria requires you send continuous traps to the graveyard.

Tmaster148 posted...

Uria has the best effect.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Uria,_Lord_of_Searing_Flames

I once had a deck built around this thing. It had 3 Uria, a Sangan (to search for Uria) until it got banned, 2 Card Trooper and 2 Lyla (to mill traps into the graveyard), 3 Magic Planter for draws, a Dark Hole, and the entire rest of the deck was continuous trap cards, including trap monsters like Metal Reflect Slime. The strongest I ever got Uria to with this deck was 26,000 ATK. It got totally fucked whenever Jinzo or Royal Decree showed up, and even more fucked when Denko Sekka was released, but it was fun while it lasted.
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legendarylemur posted...

No, I mean the True Dracos

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Peace,_the_True_Dracoslaying_King

Immune to anything the Gods can do, can out every single God with its pinkie

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Metaltron_XII,_the_True_Dracombatant

Not quite as crazy as the Gods but has a floating effect that probably outs every God

Tbh, all the God variants (Egyptian, Wicked, Sacred Beasts) are just bad. Poor effects for the cost to get them out. Plus they don't really offer themselves much protection once out either.
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Yeah only Obelisk saw extremely minimal use ever in the competitive landscape. Honestly, they weren't even released that late. I believe it was like late 5D's era, where they were still careful in balancing cards compared to now lul. Some argue that if it was released later, it would've had a better effect and a "Unaffected by other card effects" clause that would've made them viable though still not competitive, since they'd have no battle immunity and Utopia the Lightning is a thing.

Still, unaffected by other card effects, summon negate immunity, those would've made the Gods a really fun rogue deck to play
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