Board 8 > Why the hell does Ellie have less votes than Kosmos?

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SuperNiceDog
11/03/18 3:30:48 AM
#153:


metaIslug posted...
Why did you @ me with a post like that


because you are cool. Also because Kos-Mos wins HEHE
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SuperNiceDog
11/03/18 4:00:43 AM
#154:


tennisboy213 posted...
why the hell does this topic have so many posts


cuz.... boobs

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Magical_Isopod
11/03/18 6:10:17 AM
#155:


tennisboy213 posted...
why the hell does this topic have so many posts


Salted butthurt.
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LinkMarioSamus
11/03/18 7:13:06 AM
#156:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Xenogears = Square Enix
Xenosaga = Namco Bandai
Xenoblade = Nintendo

Nothing to do with continuity (XC and XCX are in different universes, same franchise). They are different IPs owned by different companies. Saying they are the same is like saying The Last Story is a Final Fantasy game.


From what I understand this is a similar case to the Souls games where they aren't technically part of the same series, but they might as well be in the eyes of many.
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Mozzezz
11/03/18 7:34:42 AM
#157:


I was surprised at Sub Zero beating Shulk. I thought fighting games had fallen off in popularity enough in general and with people specific to this site, combined with the love Shulk's series has been seeing on this site, that it would be enough for Shulk to win.

The KOS-MOS win is no surprise though. Xeno stuff gets a good amount of love on this site, and KOS-MOS specially gets a good amount. You combine that with the hate Last of US receives on this site and the winner is pretty obvious.

I don't know that much about KOS-MOS, but I think some of her appeal is the fact that she is an emotionless woman, not letting emotions get in the way. One of the stereo types for women is to be overly emotional and she breaks that mold. I think she is also like a blank slate, able to learn whatever, and that is appealing. This is what I've gathered from some general information about the character, so I'm not 100% sure if this is correct though. Plus as people have said, she looks really kool and is also from a time in gaming that more so appeals to this site.

Also, I suppose you could be an "organic robot" if you are organic in nature but don't posses sentience. I think Ghost in the Shell had a character sort of like this, he was called a bio android. His brain was organic and the rest of his body was made from standard robotic materials, but even though his brain was organic he didn't act like he had sentience, or at best he was learning it.
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Korppi123
11/03/18 7:41:09 AM
#158:


Because:
-She is from an exclusive game
-Western character
-Last of us is not that good of a game really
-Neil Druckman has admitted that he has political agenda in his games. This has been a hot topic on this site, anything naughty dog will do for years now will get absolutely smashed here.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/03/18 7:44:07 AM
#159:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
@Xuxon posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
Xenogears = Square Enix
Xenosaga = Namco Bandai
Xenoblade = Nintendo

Nothing to do with continuity (XC and XCX are in different universes, same franchise). They are different IPs owned by different companies. Saying they are the same is like saying The Last Story is a Final Fantasy game.

both Xenosaga and Xenoblade were developed by Monolith Soft, a company that was first created with multiple Square employees that had worked on Xenogears.

Hideo Kojima made Snatcher, Death Stranding, and Metal Gear Solid. Does anyone say they're the same IP? No. They have as much to do with each other as Xenosaga and Xenoblade Chronicles do.


Maybe they are not the same IP legally speaking.

But it's the same series. Same people making, and the games are connected to each other.

I don't suddenly become another person if I quit a company and get hired by another.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/03/18 7:45:40 AM
#160:


Eh the guy is selectively ignoring posts that attempt to forward the discussion. He's a troll.
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IcarusTheFinal
11/03/18 7:51:07 AM
#161:


Kos isn't just from an rpg, she's from a PS2 rpg. Ellie didn't stand a chance.
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ZeroSignal620
11/03/18 7:55:56 AM
#162:


Why the hell does Ellie have less votes than Kosmos?

Because people like Kosmos better than Ellie, so they clicked her picture instead.

Also, nice try on trying to get reddit to rally for Ellie. If they didn't rally Draven, D-Va, or Waluigi, Ellie wasn't getting shit for votes.

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scaryice
11/03/18 7:57:56 AM
#163:


Mozzezz posted...
I don't know that much about KOS-MOS, but I think some of her appeal is the fact that she is an emotionless woman, not letting emotions get in the way. One of the stereo types for women is to be overly emotional and she breaks that mold. I think she is also like a blank slate, able to learn whatever, and that is appealing.


That logic sure hasn't helped Quiet any, though...
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Safer_777
11/03/18 7:59:18 AM
#164:


Kosmos has big tits.
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Mozzezz
11/03/18 8:10:26 AM
#165:


scaryice posted...
Mozzezz posted...
I don't know that much about KOS-MOS, but I think some of her appeal is the fact that she is an emotionless woman, not letting emotions get in the way. One of the stereo types for women is to be overly emotional and she breaks that mold. I think she is also like a blank slate, able to learn whatever, and that is appealing.


That logic sure hasn't helped Quiet any, though...


I know even less about Quiet, but I think KOS-MOS is more popular on this site and Kingdom Hearts doesn't draw as much hate as Last of US. Plus KOS-MOS looks kooler.
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Tom Bombadil
11/03/18 8:16:12 AM
#166:


*fewer votes
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Vlado
11/03/18 8:21:39 AM
#167:


Because characters nobody likes tend to lose, even to semi-obscure JRPG icons.
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Lightning Strikes
11/03/18 9:01:16 AM
#168:


LMS is right on the money actually, it's like Souls - there is a connection, but they are not officially or legally in the same franchise.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:02:29 AM
#169:


@Hello Hello posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
And Kosmos is a bland emotionless cardboard cutout of a character from a obscure forgotten game that made zero impact on the gaming industry.


There was literally a PhD thesis written on Xenosaga. How many PhDs have done work on The Last of Us? Zero? Oh. Okay.

Who would write a thesis on an obscure game no one cares about. You don't have to lie to protect your trash waifu.
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LinkMarioSamus
11/03/18 9:04:49 AM
#170:


Lightning Strikes posted...
LMS is right on the money actually, it's like Souls - there is a connection, but they are not officially or legally in the same franchise.


Hey thanks.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:06:02 AM
#171:


@SuperNiceDog posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@StealThisSheen posted...
Ellie isn't good sorry

If Ellie isn't good, then Kosmos is abysmal. That's just a fact. So why aren't the votes reflecting that?


you're just a noob to these contests. Anime waifus win mannnn

This is just idiotic. A waifu needs to be more than just pretty, which Kosmos is not. how come Quiet isn't winning either huh? She is actually a quality woman.
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MettanAtem
11/03/18 9:10:47 AM
#172:


Super-hot android girl vs. generic teenage girl.

Really, why wouldn't KOS-MOS be winning?
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:13:42 AM
#173:


@Nanis23 posted...
This topic is just another "why is X losing when it's the objectively better character"
And this is something we all thought about at some point
I mean yes, you can consider it a whiner, but let's admit probably most of us thought about it someday

I consider Phoenix Wright to be a better character than 90% of the bracket and yet I know he would get doubled by something like Kirby
Yes, we all know Kirby and we all love him, but he is not the better character

But this is what the contests are about - the most popular character, not the best written, not the best designed, but rather which is just more popular
Be it because of the highest playrate, or it's just Gamefaqs type of game, or just people really know this character from Smash
Look at this match for example
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5171-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-1-alucard-vs-falcon-vs
Rydia is a well written character, and yet she lost to someone that his only redeeming quality is screaming FALCON PUNCH in Smash

If a silent protagonist being the winner of most GameFAQs contests doesn't tell you enough then you really need to change your mindset

But the thing is that Xenosaga is extremely UNpopular. Only a handful of weeaboos even know what it is. The Last Of Us is 100 times more popular. If Kosmos wins, then Shulk should've won too, but he didn't. His game might still be somewhat unknown, but he's objectively a million times better than Kosmos; and Xenoblade Chronicles has a future ahead of it. Xenosaga has no future whatsoever. This should not be happening.
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LinkMarioSamus
11/03/18 9:16:41 AM
#174:


KOS-MOS also presumably does well due to her character design. Also, this site caters to RPG fans who will support her.

Nanis, you will take back what you said about Captain Falcon right now. Captain Falcon is a memetic badass.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:18:35 AM
#175:


@SuperNiceDog posted...
tennisboy213 posted...
why the hell does this topic have so many posts


cuz.... boobs


Get that shit out of here. She has boobs? That's why she's winning?! You all really are lonely weeaboos. And Kosmos is a fucking whore. Why won't anyone take their nostalgia goggles off and see it?
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Nanis23
11/03/18 9:18:58 AM
#176:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
Only a handful of weeaboos even know what it is. The Last Of Us is 100 times more popular

Not on this site
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5383-best-of-2013-game-of-the-year-final
ALBW beat both GTA V and TLOU, does it make sense to you?
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MettanAtem
11/03/18 9:21:36 AM
#177:


But let's be real here. It's essentially a mercy-kill for this Ellie person to drop out of the contest now.

You know why?

She's going to lose hard when she inevitably has to go up against some big-name character if she ever keeps going.
Let's take a look at her bracket. Assuming she somehow gets past round 2, she'd most likely go up against Ryu in round 3, and then either Captain Falcon or Sephiroth in the div final.

What makes you think she has a chance?
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ZenOfThunder
11/03/18 9:22:25 AM
#178:


how are people still in this topic

nobody is gonna win this argument, it's all opinions

some people like dirty ellen page, some people like big-titted robots

no matter what, this topic is not changing peoples' minds or the results
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Shinobi120
11/03/18 9:25:16 AM
#179:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
But the thing is that Xenosaga is extremely UNpopular. Only a handful of weeaboos even know what it is. The Last Of Us is 100 times more popular.


In 10 years from now, no one's going to be talking about Sony's games like TLOU or Uncharted or any of their characters at all. Because they're not that memorable.

When you go to talk to people about characters from Sony's games in 10 years from now, they're going to be like, "Joel & Ellie who"? "Nathan Drake who"?, etc. You get the hint.

Meanwhile, most gaming fans in which they're not too fond of "Hollywood, cinematic, realistic" type of games will remember characters like KOS-MOS & most of Nintendo's characters, because they happen to be very popular within the fandom, including non-gamers.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:28:05 AM
#180:


@IcarusTheFinal posted...
Kos isn't just from an rpg, she's from a PS2 rpg. Ellie didn't stand a chance.

a PS2 rpg that has never been rereleased onto any other system. no one is able to play it today without shelling out hundreds of dollars. Literally every important PS2 game has been rereleased somehow. that speaks volumes about how meaningless Xenosaga is.
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NaberiusBuster
11/03/18 9:29:33 AM
#181:


KOS-MOS is an undeniable badass, Ellie is not.

Ellie requires escorting, while KOS-MOS escorts you.

KOS-MOS has character development, in the form of shooting through an ally and hijacking a starship, and the the latter of those two is one of the best and most hilarious events in the series. She learns from these two incidents.

The Last of Us is just another random AAA game that forgets it is a game and receives an award from the media in the same style as the Oscars because it is happens to be another boring progressive or artistic game.
The Last of Us is just a flash in the pan game.

Shulk lost because he went up against a legit classic fighting game icon in the form of Sub-Zero. Ellie is not an icon on this site, especially when you consider all the anti-votes she will receive.

KOS-MOS is winning the vote because she is more popular here. The poll doesn't lie.

Maybe if it was KOS-MOS vs Xenogears's Elly then KOS-MOS might lose, but that is not the case today.
Hell, KOS-MOS pulls off a stunt similar to what that thing in the Smash Bros trailer did to the Smash Bro cast in Episode 1.

TheStupidRaptor posted...
Hideo Kojima made Snatcher, Death Stranding, and Metal Gear Solid. Does anyone say they're the same IP? No. They have as much to do with each other as Xenosaga and Xenoblade Chronicles do.

Don't play dumb, they aren't even in the same genre.

Unbridled9 posted...
Kos-Mos has an arm cannon. One would think that between characters like Samus and Ash Williams that arm cannons are awesome. Ellie does not have an arm cannon. Hence, Kos-Mos wins.

And a leg cannon, and dual wields triple barreled Gatling guns, and has a fleet busting laser array in her stomach, and a blade arm, and an energy scythe too.

TheStupidRaptor posted...
@IcarusTheFinal posted...
Kos isn't just from an rpg, she's from a PS2 rpg. Ellie didn't stand a chance.

a PS2 rpg that has never been rereleased onto any other system. no one is able to play it today without shelling out hundreds of dollars. Literally every important PS2 game has been rereleased somehow. that speaks volumes about how meaningless Xenosaga is.

You do know that both illegal means of acqusition and YouTube exist, right?
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:33:37 AM
#182:


Mozzezz posted...
I was surprised at Sub Zero beating Shulk. I thought fighting games had fallen off in popularity enough in general and with people specific to this site, combined with the love Shulk's series has been seeing on this site, that it would be enough for Shulk to win.

The KOS-MOS win is no surprise though. Xeno stuff gets a good amount of love on this site, and KOS-MOS specially gets a good amount. You combine that with the hate Last of US receives on this site and the winner is pretty obvious.

I don't know that much about KOS-MOS, but I think some of her appeal is the fact that she is an emotionless woman, not letting emotions get in the way. One of the stereo types for women is to be overly emotional and she breaks that mold. I think she is also like a blank slate, able to learn whatever, and that is appealing. This is what I've gathered from some general information about the character, so I'm not 100% sure if this is correct though. Plus as people have said, she looks really kool and is also from a time in gaming that more so appeals to this site.

Also, I suppose you could be an "organic robot" if you are organic in nature but don't posses sentience. I think Ghost in the Shell had a character sort of like this, he was called a bio android. His brain was organic and the rest of his body was made from standard robotic materials, but even though his brain was organic he didn't act like he had sentience, or at best he was learning it.

Kosmos winning would be a monumental surprise. Literally no one has played Xenosaga, why do you think it will never be rereleased on any other system?

Kosmos is not "kool" at all. I would know, I played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and witnessed her extreme dullness and lack of a personality firsthand. I would much rather have an emotional woman than a thot who doesn't give a shit about anything. She breaks no mold and is meaningless to gaming, unlike The Last Of Us.

Shulk is objectively a million times better than her. If he lost, Kosmos should not win. End of story.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:40:19 AM
#183:


@MettanAtem posted...
Super-hot android girl vs. generic teenage girl.

Really, why wouldn't KOS-MOS be winning?

Because Kosmos is NOT hot. girls with no personality are not attractive in the slightest. Ellie is far from generic. have you seen all the shit she went through? She won't be a teen anymore in the sequel. Kosmos shouldn't even be here, let alone win.
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MettanAtem
11/03/18 9:44:52 AM
#184:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
Super-hot android girl vs. generic teenage girl.

Really, why wouldn't KOS-MOS be winning?

Because Kosmos is NOT hot. girls with no personality are not attractive in the slightest. Ellie is far from generic. have you seen all the shit she went through? She won't be a teen anymore in the sequel. Kosmos shouldn't even be here, let alone win.

Really, I haven't played TLOU, or whichever game KOS-MOS is from.

The main reason I voted against Ellie is because my experiences with TLOU fanboys have been entirely with whiny people who fail to understand that other people can have different opinions.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:49:25 AM
#185:


@NaberiusBuster posted...
KOS-MOS is an undeniable badass, Ellie is not.

Ellie requires escorting, while KOS-MOS escorts you.

KOS-MOS has character development, in the form of shooting through an ally and hijacking a starship, and the the latter of those two is one of the best and most hilarious events in the series. She learns from these two incidents.

The Last of Us is just another random AAA game that forgets it is a game and receives an award from the media in the same style as the Oscars because it is happens to be another boring progressive or artistic game.
The Last of Us is just a flash in the pan game.

Shulk lost because he went up against a legit classic fighting game icon in the form of Sub-Zero. Ellie is not an icon on this site, especially when you consider all the anti-votes she will receive.

KOS-MOS is winning the vote because she is more popular here. The poll doesn't lie.

Maybe if it was KOS-MOS vs Xenogears's Elly then KOS-MOS might lose, but that is not the case today.
Hell, KOS-MOS pulls off a stunt similar to what that thing in the Smash Bros trailer did to the Smash Bro cast in Episode 1.

TheStupidRaptor posted...
Hideo Kojima made Snatcher, Death Stranding, and Metal Gear Solid. Does anyone say they're the same IP? No. They have as much to do with each other as Xenosaga and Xenoblade Chronicles do.

Don't play dumb, they aren't even in the same genre.

Unbridled9 posted...
Kos-Mos has an arm cannon. One would think that between characters like Samus and Ash Williams that arm cannons are awesome. Ellie does not have an arm cannon. Hence, Kos-Mos wins.

And a leg cannon, and dual wields triple barreled Gatling guns, and has a fleet busting laser array in her stomach, and a blade arm, and an energy scythe too.

TheStupidRaptor posted...
@IcarusTheFinal posted...
Kos isn't just from an rpg, she's from a PS2 rpg. Ellie didn't stand a chance.

a PS2 rpg that has never been rereleased onto any other system. no one is able to play it today without shelling out hundreds of dollars. Literally every important PS2 game has been rereleased somehow. that speaks volumes about how meaningless Xenosaga is.

You do know that both illegal means of acqusition and YouTube exist, right?

Unlike amoral basement dwellers like you, most people play their games legitimately, and don't resort to bootleg copies or emulators. Most people don't even have a computer that CAN emulate, or even know how to do it.

Youtube? That's not how you play games. If you watch a whole lets play of a game with cringy commentary from some nobody, you cannot say you played the game. That's just wrong.

Everything your saying is just BS. I've seen ponies with more character development than Kosmos. You can't be badass if you have no quirks or any reason to like you other than being weeb bait.

You could easily give a canon to Ellie, and she'd wield it with far more purpose. I can't believe you have to dig this deep for stupid reasons why your trash waifu is better. She is not, she never will be anything but trash. Get over it.
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MettanAtem
11/03/18 9:50:36 AM
#186:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
I've seen ponies with more character development than Kosmos.

So then why is your favorite MLP character not in the contest then?
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:53:50 AM
#187:


@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
Super-hot android girl vs. generic teenage girl.

Really, why wouldn't KOS-MOS be winning?

Because Kosmos is NOT hot. girls with no personality are not attractive in the slightest. Ellie is far from generic. have you seen all the shit she went through? She won't be a teen anymore in the sequel. Kosmos shouldn't even be here, let alone win.

Really, I haven't played TLOU, or whichever game KOS-MOS is from.

The main reason I voted against Ellie is because my experiences with TLOU fanboys have been entirely with whiny people who fail to understand that other people can have different opinions.

Well have you seen how whiny people who play Xenosaga are. They are the people you described, but worse. They fail to understand Kosmos is a horrible character and this poll is garbage for making her win but Shulk lose.
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handsomeboy2012
11/03/18 9:55:25 AM
#188:


This topic is still going lol
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MettanAtem
11/03/18 9:55:30 AM
#189:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
Super-hot android girl vs. generic teenage girl.

Really, why wouldn't KOS-MOS be winning?

Because Kosmos is NOT hot. girls with no personality are not attractive in the slightest. Ellie is far from generic. have you seen all the shit she went through? She won't be a teen anymore in the sequel. Kosmos shouldn't even be here, let alone win.

Really, I haven't played TLOU, or whichever game KOS-MOS is from.

The main reason I voted against Ellie is because my experiences with TLOU fanboys have been entirely with whiny people who fail to understand that other people can have different opinions.

Well have you seen how whiny people who play Xenosaga are. They are the people you described, but worse. They fail to understand Kosmos is a horrible character and this poll is garbage for making her win but Shulk lose.

You do understand you're included in the kind of people I described, yes?
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:55:38 AM
#190:


@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
I've seen ponies with more character development than Kosmos.

So then why is your favorite MLP character not in the contest then?

This contest is for characters that originally came from video games. So people like Batman, Shrek, Robbie Rotten, or Discord would never have been here in the first place. Why are you even asking?
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:58:24 AM
#191:


@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
Super-hot android girl vs. generic teenage girl.

Really, why wouldn't KOS-MOS be winning?

Because Kosmos is NOT hot. girls with no personality are not attractive in the slightest. Ellie is far from generic. have you seen all the shit she went through? She won't be a teen anymore in the sequel. Kosmos shouldn't even be here, let alone win.

Really, I haven't played TLOU, or whichever game KOS-MOS is from.

The main reason I voted against Ellie is because my experiences with TLOU fanboys have been entirely with whiny people who fail to understand that other people can have different opinions.

Well have you seen how whiny people who play Xenosaga are. They are the people you described, but worse. They fail to understand Kosmos is a horrible character and this poll is garbage for making her win but Shulk lose.

You do understand you're included in the kind of people I described, yes?

No I'm not. The Last Of us isn't even my favorite game. I like Jak and Daxter and Uncharted more actually. I don't care if other people don't like it. But when people say Xenosaga is better/more popular and that Kosmos is better than Ellie, that's when I get pissed. Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit.
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Rthan
11/03/18 9:59:47 AM
#192:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
@IcarusTheFinal posted...
Kos isn't just from an rpg, she's from a PS2 rpg. Ellie didn't stand a chance.

a PS2 rpg that has never been rereleased onto any other system. no one is able to play it today without shelling out hundreds of dollars. Literally every important PS2 game has been rereleased somehow. that speaks volumes about how meaningless Xenosaga is.


What stupid ass logic... by that same token Suikoden 2 heralded as one of the BEST JRPG's of ALL TIME, isnt really popular as it hasnt been re-released, and the only way to play it is to shell 500+ dollars on ebay for a used copy.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 9:59:50 AM
#193:


@ZenOfThunder posted...
how are people still in this topic

nobody is gonna win this argument, it's all opinions

some people like dirty ellen page, some people like big-titted robots

no matter what, this topic is not changing peoples' minds or the results

No one really likes Kosmos. they're only voting for her because they're weebs and hate American games for some dumb reason.
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MettanAtem
11/03/18 10:00:28 AM
#194:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
Super-hot android girl vs. generic teenage girl.

Really, why wouldn't KOS-MOS be winning?

Because Kosmos is NOT hot. girls with no personality are not attractive in the slightest. Ellie is far from generic. have you seen all the shit she went through? She won't be a teen anymore in the sequel. Kosmos shouldn't even be here, let alone win.

Really, I haven't played TLOU, or whichever game KOS-MOS is from.

The main reason I voted against Ellie is because my experiences with TLOU fanboys have been entirely with whiny people who fail to understand that other people can have different opinions.

Well have you seen how whiny people who play Xenosaga are. They are the people you described, but worse. They fail to understand Kosmos is a horrible character and this poll is garbage for making her win but Shulk lose.

You do understand you're included in the kind of people I described, yes?

No I'm not. The Last Of us isn't even my favorite game. I like Jak and Daxter and Uncharted more actually. I don't care if other people don't like it. But when people say Xenosaga is better/more popular and that Kosmos is better than Ellie, that's when I get pissed. Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit.

Still, not much reason to get angry about it when Ellie doesn't stand a chance later on anyway. Any given popular Nintendo or Square Enix character would bulldoze her along with the rest of the competition, because that's how it is on this site.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 10:01:08 AM
#195:


@Rthan posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@IcarusTheFinal posted...
Kos isn't just from an rpg, she's from a PS2 rpg. Ellie didn't stand a chance.

a PS2 rpg that has never been rereleased onto any other system. no one is able to play it today without shelling out hundreds of dollars. Literally every important PS2 game has been rereleased somehow. that speaks volumes about how meaningless Xenosaga is.


What stupid ass logic... by that same token Suikoden 2 heralded as one of the BEST JRPG's of ALL TIME, isnt really popular as it hasnt been re-released, and the only way to play it is to shell 500+ dollars on ebay for a used copy.

Ever thought there's a reason these games never get rereleased? Because NOBODY CARES!
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 10:02:37 AM
#196:


@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@MettanAtem posted...
Super-hot android girl vs. generic teenage girl.

Really, why wouldn't KOS-MOS be winning?

Because Kosmos is NOT hot. girls with no personality are not attractive in the slightest. Ellie is far from generic. have you seen all the shit she went through? She won't be a teen anymore in the sequel. Kosmos shouldn't even be here, let alone win.

Really, I haven't played TLOU, or whichever game KOS-MOS is from.

The main reason I voted against Ellie is because my experiences with TLOU fanboys have been entirely with whiny people who fail to understand that other people can have different opinions.

Well have you seen how whiny people who play Xenosaga are. They are the people you described, but worse. They fail to understand Kosmos is a horrible character and this poll is garbage for making her win but Shulk lose.

You do understand you're included in the kind of people I described, yes?

No I'm not. The Last Of us isn't even my favorite game. I like Jak and Daxter and Uncharted more actually. I don't care if other people don't like it. But when people say Xenosaga is better/more popular and that Kosmos is better than Ellie, that's when I get pissed. Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit.

Still, not much reason to get angry about it when Ellie doesn't stand a chance later on anyway. Any given popular Nintendo or Square Enix character would bulldoze her along with the rest of the competition, because that's how it is on this site.

What about Shulk? he's an amazing character from a Nintendo game that's made in Japan. He should've bulldozed too. So why?
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Shinobi120
11/03/18 10:04:26 AM
#197:


TC, no one but you gives a shit about Ellie. No one outside of Sony fanboys even cares about her.

In 5 to 10 years from now, no one will be talking about her anymore.

TheStupidRaptor posted...
@Rthan posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@IcarusTheFinal posted...
Kos isn't just from an rpg, she's from a PS2 rpg. Ellie didn't stand a chance.

a PS2 rpg that has never been rereleased onto any other system. no one is able to play it today without shelling out hundreds of dollars. Literally every important PS2 game has been rereleased somehow. that speaks volumes about how meaningless Xenosaga is.


What stupid ass logic... by that same token Suikoden 2 heralded as one of the BEST JRPG's of ALL TIME, isnt really popular as it hasnt been re-released, and the only way to play it is to shell 500+ dollars on ebay for a used copy.

Ever thought there's a reason these games never get rereleased? Because NOBODY CARES!


It had gotten re-released on PSP as part of the Suikoden 1 & 2 collection.
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MettanAtem
11/03/18 10:06:36 AM
#198:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
What about Shulk? he's an amazing character from a Nintendo game that's made in Japan. He should've bulldozed too. So why?

Because he's more recent and not as iconic as some of the rest. Most people who don't know him from his game would know him from Smash.

Also he went up against Sub-Zero, one of the iconic palette-swap ninjas from Mortal Kombat. Chances are more people who don't know either series would know one of the Mortal Kombat ninjas over Shulk.

I suppose then I can bring that to this contest. Let's say that the voter knows absolutely nothing about either character (Ellie or KOS-MOS) and has only name and appearances to go on. Neither are exactly the same level of iconic as some big-name video game characters. Whether they vote for the realistic-rendered teenage girl or the anime girl would depend on their values.
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Shinobi120
11/03/18 10:08:38 AM
#199:


TheStupidRaptor posted...
What about Shulk? he's an amazing character from a Nintendo game that's made in Japan. He should've bulldozed too. So why?


Because he went up against Sub-freakin'-Zero, that's why. He's one of the most popular fighting game characters ever.
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Vlado
11/03/18 10:13:14 AM
#200:


Shinobi120 posted...
TC, no one but you gives a shit about Ellie. No one outside of Sony fanboys even cares about her.

In 5 to 10 years from now, no one will be talking about her anymore.

TheStupidRaptor posted...
@Rthan posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
@IcarusTheFinal posted...
Kos isn't just from an rpg, she's from a PS2 rpg. Ellie didn't stand a chance.

a PS2 rpg that has never been rereleased onto any other system. no one is able to play it today without shelling out hundreds of dollars. Literally every important PS2 game has been rereleased somehow. that speaks volumes about how meaningless Xenosaga is.


What stupid ass logic... by that same token Suikoden 2 heralded as one of the BEST JRPG's of ALL TIME, isnt really popular as it hasnt been re-released, and the only way to play it is to shell 500+ dollars on ebay for a used copy.

Ever thought there's a reason these games never get rereleased? Because NOBODY CARES!


It had gotten released on PSP as part of the Suikoden 1 & 2 collection.

Whoa, that exists? Neat! *puts on backlog*
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 11:16:00 AM
#201:


@LinkMarioSamus posted...
KOS-MOS also presumably does well due to her character design. Also, this site caters to RPG fans who will support her.

Nanis, you will take back what you said about Captain Falcon right now. Captain Falcon is a memetic badass.

What design? she's just a generic anime girl. If you didn't tell me it's Kosmos, I could never recognize her, she looks so ordinary.
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TheStupidRaptor
11/03/18 11:17:39 AM
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@Shinobi120 posted...
TheStupidRaptor posted...
But the thing is that Xenosaga is extremely UNpopular. Only a handful of weeaboos even know what it is. The Last Of Us is 100 times more popular.


In 10 years from now, no one's going to be talking about Sony's games like TLOU or Uncharted or any of their characters at all. Because they're not that memorable.

When you go to talk to people about characters from Sony's games in 10 years from now, they're going to be like, "Joel & Ellie who"? "Nathan Drake who"?, etc. You get the hint.

Meanwhile, most gaming fans in which they're not too fond of "Hollywood, cinematic, realistic" type of games will remember characters like KOS-MOS & most of Nintendo's characters, because they happen to be very popular within the fandom, including non-gamers.

No one even remembers Kosmos today. You think in 5-10 years they'll remember? Kosmos is destined to be forgotten, way more than The Last Of Us. She's forgotten right now.
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