Board 8 > Danganronpa M: Chapter 2 - The Game Within The Game #mafia

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Dark Young Link posted...

Granted it's not like I"m a super important player in this game... I guess I like being coy at times.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Jesus fucking Christ, Kanz was A LYNCH OTHER THAN SCARE

Okay so are you curious why everyone else tried to lynch Kanz?

I know there was some mention of posts he'd made that were scummy. I don't have a complete understanding of why others started a train on him and now that he is still alive it is something I will definitely look in to, plus he gets an actually opportunity to contribute and earn town/scum points as the day progresses.
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Obellisk posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Anyone ever wake up in a place they didn't go to sleep at before? I feel like that right now.

What does this mean

And now you know the answer to this question

(I also breadcrumbed day 1 but topic 1 purged...)
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Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

What if I said I doubted sheep was scum because I know 2 people visited him last night.

Ah. Well in that case, I should admit to being..

Ultimate Therapist

Town Sleepwalker

Once a night, I visit someone. That's all.

I did indeed stumble into Sheep's room last night.

I never said YOU went to sheep. But, you outright admit to going to sheep with another person on a night of no kill in which the likely two people to go to him would be a doc save and a night kill. And didn't claim doctor.

Hmmmmmmm.

Lol
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I know there was some mention of posts he'd made that were scummy. I don't have a complete understanding of why others started a train on him and now that he is still alive it is something I will definitely look in to, plus he gets an actually opportunity to contribute and earn town/scum points as the day progresses.

So would you call Naeb, Sheep, and Puns all town?
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Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

What if I said I doubted sheep was scum because I know 2 people visited him last night.

Ah. Well in that case, I should admit to being..

Ultimate Therapist

Town Sleepwalker

Once a night, I visit someone. That's all.

I did indeed stumble into Sheep's room last night.

I never said YOU went to sheep. But, you outright admit to going to sheep with another person on a night of no kill in which the likely two people to go to him would be a doc save and a night kill. And didn't claim doctor.

Hmmmmmmm.

Lol

Ha ha ha, Corrik and DYL trying to make Corrik look so good here.

##Unvote
##Vote:DYL

Obviously we lynch DYL and if Corrik happens to be alive with his watcher claim he gets lynched tomorrow.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

What if I said I doubted sheep was scum because I know 2 people visited him last night.

Ah. Well in that case, I should admit to being..

Ultimate Therapist

Town Sleepwalker

Once a night, I visit someone. That's all.

I did indeed stumble into Sheep's room last night.

I never said YOU went to sheep. But, you outright admit to going to sheep with another person on a night of no kill in which the likely two people to go to him would be a doc save and a night kill. And didn't claim doctor.

Hmmmmmmm.

Lol

Ha ha ha, Corrik and DYL trying to make Corrik look so good here.

##Unvote
##Vote:DYL

Obviously we lynch DYL and if Corrik happens to be alive with his watcher claim he gets lynched tomorrow.

You sure DYL isn't your doctor that just outted himself... Cuz therapist... I mean.
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Dark Young Link posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I know there was some mention of posts he'd made that were scummy. I don't have a complete understanding of why others started a train on him and now that he is still alive it is something I will definitely look in to, plus he gets an actually opportunity to contribute and earn town/scum points as the day progresses.

So would you call Naeb, Sheep, and Puns all town?

No. Sheep is someone I have already expressed doubts about over yesterday, Neab is fine at the moment and Puns can get rule 1'd in final 3 for all I care.
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Corrik posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

What if I said I doubted sheep was scum because I know 2 people visited him last night.

Ah. Well in that case, I should admit to being..

Ultimate Therapist

Town Sleepwalker

Once a night, I visit someone. That's all.

I did indeed stumble into Sheep's room last night.

I never said YOU went to sheep. But, you outright admit to going to sheep with another person on a night of no kill in which the likely two people to go to him would be a doc save and a night kill. And didn't claim doctor.

Hmmmmmmm.

Lol

Ha ha ha, Corrik and DYL trying to make Corrik look so good here.

##Unvote
##Vote:DYL

Obviously we lynch DYL and if Corrik happens to be alive with his watcher claim he gets lynched tomorrow.

You sure DYL isn't your doctor that just outted himself... Cuz therapist... I mean.

Pretty sure.
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Corrik posted...

I never said YOU went to sheep. But, you outright admit to going to sheep with another person on a night of no kill in which the likely two people to go to him would be a doc save and a night kill. And didn't claim doctor.

Hmmmmmmm.

Lol

*shrug*

I'm aware my role is inherently suspicious(It's essentially tracker/watcher bait) but that is the truth.

Kind of wish you didn't reveal for someone who's basically a moving vanilla, but if you saw me visit someone then you had every right to suspect something.
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The funny part is. DYL just flat out believed me out of nowhere and admitted to that. Why didn't you think I was faking DYL?
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Dark Young Link posted...

Corrik posted...

I never said YOU went to sheep. But, you outright admit to going to sheep with another person on a night of no kill in which the likely two people to go to him would be a doc save and a night kill. And didn't claim doctor.

Hmmmmmmm.

Lol

*shrug*

I'm aware my role is inherently suspicious(It's essentially tracker/watcher bait) but that is the truth.

Kind of wish you didn't reveal for someone who's basically a moving vanilla, but if you saw me visit someone then you had every right to suspect something.

I didn't see you go anywhere. You told me where you went lol.
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Corrik posted...

The funny part is. DYL just flat out believed me out of nowhere and admitted to that. Why didn't you think I was faking DYL?

It would be extremely coincidental for you to mention the same person he knows he visited.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik posted...

The funny part is. DYL just flat out believed me out of nowhere and admitted to that. Why didn't you think I was faking DYL?

It would be extremely coincidental for you to mention the same person he knows he visited.

Extremely.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Obviously we lynch DYL and if Corrik happens to be alive with his watcher claim he gets lynched tomorrow.

Sounds like scum trying to set up something.

Corrik posted...

The funny part is. DYL just flat out believed me out of nowhere and admitted to that. Why didn't you think I was faking DYL?

I suspected it, but part of me also wanted to avoid someone else claiming because they saw me move/tracked me to someone. My role isn't very valuable so I didn't want someone important exposing themselves for me. I was a little too late in that regard, unfortunately.

That said I was planning to claim day 2 anyway, knowing my luck I'd happen to visit someone who was killed and YoU LiEd AbOuT YoUr RoLe and I get mislynched for free.
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Corrik posted...

I didn't see you go anywhere. You told me where you went lol.

Heh. Well fair enough, at least now people know my true claim. Whatever they believe it or not is up to them.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

It would be extremely coincidental for you to mention the same person he knows he visited.

Lol, that's why part of me believed Corrik. At first I was like "Yeah, Corrik testing me. Whatever."

Then he mentioned Sheep and I was like "Ah fuck, I just made the town watcher reveal didn't I?"
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Well, 2 people did visit Sheep. I assume a night kill and a doctor. But, it is possible a nightkill was blocked elsewhere also, so it isn't entirely damning. However, not a good look for you DYL. Thank you for letting me know you were 1 of the 2 though. Lol.
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I am not a watcher, pal.
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Hrm.

So IGCD, you still think Corrik is scum right?
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Do you think I am scum, DYL?
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God is my #1 lynch target rn and it'd take a lot to move me off him

this said, for now I want to check on lynch target #2

##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep

Come out and play, I want to hear why you started a train on someone who could not defend themselves.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

God is my #1 lynch target rn and it'd take a lot to move me off him

this said, for now I want to check on lynch target #2

##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep

Come out and play, I want to hear why you started a train on someone who could not defend themselves.

= /
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Corrik posted...

Do you think I am scum, DYL?

Given my limited ability to read you... not currently. It's not a super strong "I guarantee this person is town" feeling, but my gut just isn't screaming scum at the moment.
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I don't expect a doctor to claim today, but if at some point a doctor does claim to have gone to sheep night 1 later in the game, good night sweet prince.
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I guess unless a ninja flips before that = /
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Understandable.
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Anyways.

##vote: kanz

Choo choo. Good night.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

God is my #1 lynch target rn and it'd take a lot to move me off him

this said, for now I want to check on lynch target #2

##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep

Come out and play, I want to hear why you started a train on someone who could not defend themselves.

please share your thoughts instead of saying something and doing something that is in direct contradiction to what you said.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

God is my #1 lynch target rn and it'd take a lot to move me off him

this said, for now I want to check on lynch target #2

##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep

Come out and play, I want to hear why you started a train on someone who could not defend themselves.

please share your thoughts instead of saying something and doing something that is in direct contradiction to what you said.

My thoughts were that your posts during last night's special were absolute garbage and I respect you to play better than to literally fucking say 'oh it's a pity Kan isn't here to defend himself' as you tried to murder me as town

Because as town you want people to show how they're innocent so you can lynch scum, not hit a fucking inactive on d1 who is explicitly bedridden and sick

There's a limit to how much badness you can give a pass to, and you and sheep reek of bad scum trying to get free lynches, not bad town
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

God is my #1 lynch target rn and it'd take a lot to move me off him

this said, for now I want to check on lynch target #2

##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep

Come out and play, I want to hear why you started a train on someone who could not defend themselves.

please share your thoughts instead of saying something and doing something that is in direct contradiction to what you said.

My thoughts were that your posts during last night's special were absolute garbage and I respect you to play better than to literally fucking say 'oh it's a pity Kan isn't here to defend himself' as you tried to murder me as town

Because as town you want people to show how they're innocent so you can lynch scum, not hit a fucking inactive on d1 who is explicitly bedridden and sick

There's a limit to how much badness you can give a pass to, and you and sheep reek of bad scum trying to get free lynches, not bad town

What are you even talking about? How and when did I allude to it "being a pity" you weren't here to defend yourself?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

God is my #1 lynch target rn and it'd take a lot to move me off him

this said, for now I want to check on lynch target #2

##Unvote
##Vote: Sheep

Come out and play, I want to hear why you started a train on someone who could not defend themselves.

please share your thoughts instead of saying something and doing something that is in direct contradiction to what you said.

My thoughts were that your posts during last night's special were absolute garbage and I respect you to play better than to literally fucking say 'oh it's a pity Kan isn't here to defend himself' as you tried to murder me as town

Because as town you want people to show how they're innocent so you can lynch scum, not hit a fucking inactive on d1 who is explicitly bedridden and sick

There's a limit to how much badness you can give a pass to, and you and sheep reek of bad scum trying to get free lynches, not bad town

What are you even talking about? How and when did I allude to it "being a pity" you weren't here to defend yourself?

Also how the fuck was I supposed to know you're bed ridden and sick? I replaced in with 2 hours to deadline. Not a single person brought up you claiming to not feel well, apparently you mentioned your PC being out of commission but no health concerns were ever brought to my attention. I have also explained and will now reiterate that I was more comfortable with your lynch soley because I was confident in Scare being town and you being a big fat question mark. I will always lynch the player I am least sure about in a situation where someone I am confident in is the other option.
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So you lynched someone

who was a question mark

who was clearly so not there they did not show up to defend themselves

who has a known history, one you have experience with, of always, always being around at EoD

And this sat well with you? Nah man, I give you a bit more credit than this as town, c'mon now

Like seriously tell me how you can defend this

Also nice to know Kanz can't come in and save himself lol.

This isn't lynching a lurker

this is straight up killing someone who can't defend himself and leaving your vote on them because ???????
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DYL probably didn't try to kill me, Corrik. I received something from someone else last night which wasn't protection meaning I would have died if there was a kill aimed at me.

Kanz is probably Town. Don't know him that well but his votes and aggravation due to the train yesterday seem extremely genuine. I'm sorry for starting that train, it probably seems rather dickish of me. I felt it was the right move at the time because I was very confident Scare was Town and just about any lynch was better. A few things you said in the earlier topics caught my eye and I felt confident on a large number of other players, so I basically just picked you to see where it would go. I feel there's quite a lot of info to be gleaned from that EoD anyway, by nature. Maybe not as much as usual since it's likely town/town, but some nonetheless. There's me, Scare, God and Neab. I'll address God laer in this post and the other two are not worth me discussing the alignment of for obvious reasons. Neab is probably Town. No reason for him to let himself look awful by jumping on an also probably town special if he's scum and not saving Scare. I liked him D1 as well due to basically voicing the exact same thoughts as me on several occasions.

The night kill situation has been touched upon by a few, so I'd like to expand my thoughts on that. FD has mentioned the possibility of only one killer, who probably kills at day and is powerful as hell due to maybe being solo scum. I might actually agree with that. There's a lot of people I currently think are Town and I'd have to be wrong on at least one with which I was confident at a certain point. There also seem to be a lot of confirmable roles though, which is puzzling to me. It feels like anything a SK could do in this setup would be too weak, but it's in my mind as a possibility. We should be working under the assumption any of us could die spontaneously during the day phase, regardless and consider if anything looks extremely different viewing things in that way.

Anyway more reads: feel better on Corrik. The thingy with DYL feels very Town-Corrik to me. Corrik's difficult to read so that's not certain, but I'm not going to focus on him now. God is probably Town too. He joined me in trying not to lynch Scare, which brought a lot of uneccessary attention/potential flack against him. Furthermore, afterwards he put suspicion on me for doing the same thing. That feels like Town God to me, scum God knows he wouldn't be swinging a lynch on me today and it comes across as an attempt to actually scumhunt, where he could pretty safely buddy up to me otherwise considering we've had mostly the same views up til now.
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Sheep007 posted...

DYL probably didn't try to kill me, Corrik. I received something from someone else last night which wasn't protection meaning I would have died if there was a kill aimed at me.

Kanz is probably Town. Don't know him that well but his votes and aggravation due to the train yesterday seem extremely genuine. I'm sorry for starting that train, it probably seems rather dickish of me. I felt it was the right move at the time because I was very confident Scare was Town and just about any lynch was better. A few things you said in the earlier topics caught my eye and I felt confident on a large number of other players, so I basically just picked you to see where it would go. I feel there's quite a lot of info to be gleaned from that EoD anyway, by nature. Maybe not as much as usual since it's likely town/town, but some nonetheless. There's me, Scare, God and Neab. I'll address God laer in this post and the other two are not worth me discussing the alignment of for obvious reasons. Neab is probably Town. No reason for him to let himself look awful by jumping on an also probably town special if he's scum and not saving Scare. I liked him D1 as well due to basically voicing the exact same thoughts as me on several occasions.

The night kill situation has been touched upon by a few, so I'd like to expand my thoughts on that. FD has mentioned the possibility of only one killer, who probably kills at day and is powerful as hell due to maybe being solo scum. I might actually agree with that. There's a lot of people I currently think are Town and I'd have to be wrong on at least one with which I was confident at a certain point. There also seem to be a lot of confirmable roles though, which is puzzling to me. It feels like anything a SK could do in this setup would be too weak, but it's in my mind as a possibility. We should be working under the assumption any of us could die spontaneously during the day phase, regardless and consider if anything looks extremely different viewing things in that way.

Anyway more reads: feel better on Corrik. The thingy with DYL feels very Town-Corrik to me. Corrik's difficult to read so that's not certain, but I'm not going to focus on him now. God is probably Town too. He joined me in trying not to lynch Scare, which brought a lot of uneccessary attention/potential flack against him. Furthermore, afterwards he put suspicion on me for doing the same thing. That feels like Town God to me, scum God knows he wouldn't be swinging a lynch on me today and it comes across as an attempt to actually scumhunt, where he could pretty safely buddy up to me otherwise considering we've had mostly the same views up til now.

Hmmm. That is disappointing.

I kinda figured there was a chance that dyl could be honest because roles to mess with mine would make sense.
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While it doesnt say much about Kanz himself, I know that lynch on was superbad.
Yet considering Scare was town, it clearly wasnt a scumrush to save one of their own.
Perhaps it was an attempt to lynch something that was not potentially a vanilla
But I hardly fault Sheep for it. His stance to save Scare was clear as day and I still like his other contributions yesterday.
It will look a bit worse if DYL is scum. But if DYL is scum, then he just admitted to visiting sheep. And in most scenarios that makes sheep town anyway.

The lack of nightkill could be because of many reasons. I am not accepting a single killer theory. (That doesnt even fit with the flavor). Even the weirdest of games had at least 3 SKs.
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Millers can come in all types, is what DoD Mafia reminded me.
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On the other hand, scum could have tried to RB sheep. Or scan him.
(Sheep dont even acknowledge whether you know you were blocked though.)
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Also Doop was weird last night
I want to know what was up with him suggesting he could gladiate at night.

Also did anyone think DYL's 'fake claim' was a genuine vanilla claim?
Speaking for myself, I did think he was at least not trying to make a joke. I couldnt really tell with this game's flavor. I am just curious what others were thinking at the time.
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Doop was weird, I agree. I'd love for him to gladiate today but I think he said it was first 12 hours only and he's yet to show up. Plus I don't know who I'd want him to gladiate.

Would love to hear Han and SBell's thoughts on Puns, and what happened around deadline. They're the two main ones, since neither was around for it.
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Oh and DYL's original claim didn't seem serious at the time, to me.
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htaeD posted...

On the other hand, scum could have tried to RB sheep. Or scan him.
(Sheep dont even acknowledge whether you know you were blocked though.)

It is already established he was not roleblocked. He basically cleared both people who targeted him of being scum for the most part. Not dead. Received a gift of some sort that dyl did not claim to give him. Etc.
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htaeD posted...

Also Doop was weird last night
I want to know what was up with him suggesting he could gladiate at night.

Also did anyone think DYL's 'fake claim' was a genuine vanilla claim?
Speaking for myself, I did think he was at least not trying to make a joke. I couldnt really tell with this game's flavor. I am just curious what others were thinking at the time.

I assumed he was really claiming town vanilla and a lot of people changed votes off of him soon after.
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Scum gladiator exists, so doop isn't town by virtue of it.
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Gladiators usually get at least 24 hours to make a choice.
Or 36 even.

Also now I worry Sheep was poisoned instead with all these non-result actions used against him.
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Well, if it makes you feel better, Death. I did not visit Sheep. Only 2 people visited sheep. 1 of which we know is dyl.
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I am not sure what role lets you see who visits sheep without visiting sheep himself. But I doubt the answer is necessary anyway.
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htaeD posted...

I am not sure what role lets you see who visits sheep without visiting sheep himself. But I doubt the answer is necessary anyway.

I didn't see who visited him. I know how many people visited him.
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Yeah I figured. Just mispoke there.
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If I'm poisoned it's definitely from DYL, but I sincerely doubt that's the case. More likely that scum only has a day kill or something along those lines.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

So you lynched someone

who was a question mark

who was clearly so not there they did not show up to defend themselves

who has a known history, one you have experience with, of always, always being around at EoD

And this sat well with you? Nah man, I give you a bit more credit than this as town, c'mon now

Like seriously tell me how you can defend this

Also nice to know Kanz can't come in and save himself lol.

This isn't lynching a lurker

this is straight up killing someone who can't defend himself and leaving your vote on them because ???????

That was clearly in regards to you not being able to vote during OT, I have explained this already. The reasoning is that if you could vote then the OT would essentially be pointless. I'm also not a fan of you trying to act like I have a ton of experience playing with you and that you think I should remember how you play during EVERY SINGLE EoD.
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