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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 3:42:27 PM
#301:


Johnbobb posted...
no


Are you scum then John Bob? Are you targeting me beacuse I have you as a strong scum read? Your play reminds me of a bad scum player I played with once? Is it because you hate alliteration? Is it beacuse you have 2 first names?play the game man come on I want to hear your thoughts John bob
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 3:44:19 PM
#302:


I don't really care about your reads

because you're scum
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Neablis
11/05/18 3:44:46 PM
#303:


Why?
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 3:45:16 PM
#304:


Neablis posted...
Why?

I assume it was determined by RNG but you'd have to ask the host
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 3:46:01 PM
#305:


Johnbobb posted...
I don't really care about your reads

because you're scum


Sounds like you're scum to me Mr bobby John. No reasoning behind a vote is the scummiest thing ever.
Not liking your play at all sir
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 3:47:00 PM
#306:


there's plenty of reasoning

the reasoning is that you're scum and we're supposed to vote for scum players
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Neablis
11/05/18 3:47:32 PM
#307:


If you can't explain your read why should we trust it?
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Sheep007
11/05/18 3:48:42 PM
#308:


John, FFNut almost certainly did not fakeclaim the role he had. Sultan is Town.
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turbopuns2
11/05/18 3:49:12 PM
#309:


Johnbobb, whatever you're on, get off it.

speak plainly. you aren't being helpful because nobody is going to side with you going about it like this.
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Sheep007
11/05/18 3:50:12 PM
#310:


Also DYL's "claim" yesterday was not scummy. It obviously wasn't an actual claim. He should've claimed it first post but I don't know if he knows that.
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 3:50:51 PM
#311:


Sheep007 posted...
John, FFNut almost certainly did not fakeclaim the role he had. Sultan is Town.

what makes you think that?
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Sheep007
11/05/18 3:51:42 PM
#312:


Also also, I feel I remember John not liking the adamancy (is that a word) that Corrik has normally. May be completely misremembering, feel free to tell me if that's not the case. Strange to behave like that himself if it is.
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 3:52:00 PM
#313:


bPBvLjT
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 3:52:31 PM
#314:


Sheep007 posted...
Also also, I feel I remember John not liking the adamancy (is that a word) that Corrik has normally. May be completely misremembering, feel free to tell me if that's not the case. Strange to behave like that himself if it is.

I didn't when I first started playing mafia

it grew on me
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Sheep007
11/05/18 3:53:17 PM
#315:


Johnbobb posted...
Sheep007 posted...
John, FFNut almost certainly did not fakeclaim the role he had. Sultan is Town.

what makes you think that?

It's a verifiable role, FFNut's a new player, it was basically with his first post and I can't see scum making such an outlandish claim so quickly and with no pressure especially when they're completely new.
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Obellisk
11/05/18 3:57:57 PM
#316:


Sultan, your post comes off scummy because dyl was close to being lynched and was trying to protect his scanning role, if you are going to die you don't get your night action. If you reveal said night action then don't get lynched you are now the eater of all roleblocks.

Nothing about dyls claiming was bad or scummy in anyway.

Now you want to vote him for other reasons and I'm a o k with that.
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 3:58:39 PM
#317:


I don't suppose anyone has ffnut's claim post saved

I tried checking the purge graveyard but it's not loading for me
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turbopuns2
11/05/18 3:59:10 PM
#318:


Obellisk posted...
Sultan, your post comes off scummy because dyl was close to being lynched and was trying to protect his scanning role, if you are going to die you don't get your night action. If you reveal said night action then don't get lynched you are now the eater of all roleblocks.

Nothing about dyls claiming was bad or scummy in anyway.

Now you want to vote him for other reasons and I'm a o k with that.


wait DYL is saying he has a scanning ability? I missed that part.
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Obellisk
11/05/18 4:01:06 PM
#319:


turbopuns2 posted...
Obellisk posted...
Sultan, your post comes off scummy because dyl was close to being lynched and was trying to protect his scanning role, if you are going to die you don't get your night action. If you reveal said night action then don't get lynched you are now the eater of all roleblocks.

Nothing about dyls claiming was bad or scummy in anyway.

Now you want to vote him for other reasons and I'm a o k with that.


wait DYL is saying he has a scanning ability? I missed that part.


Sorry, I'm mixing up all the claims here. Between. Weird roles and replaces I am having a hell of a time keeping track of things.
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 4:01:43 PM
#320:


DYL claimed sleepwalker who can visit people at night but doesn't actually do anything
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turbopuns2
11/05/18 4:02:10 PM
#321:


Dark Young Link posted...
Ah. Well in that case, I should admit to being..

Ultimate Therapist

Town Sleepwalker

Once a night, I visit someone. That's all.


Dark Young Link posted...
I'm aware my role is inherently suspicious(It's essentially tracker/watcher bait) but that is the truth.

Kind of wish you didn't reveal for someone who's basically a moving vanilla,
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Obellisk
11/05/18 4:02:12 PM
#322:


No, dyl claimed sleepwalker. Which is like a weak scan of some kind isn't it?
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Obellisk
11/05/18 4:03:10 PM
#323:


Ok, not scanner....

And yeah, it's a claim that can easily be hiding a scum role.

But sultans view of the process is all wrong.
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:08:03 PM
#324:


It's not my only reason to be on him but right now I feel like John bob being the way he is being is more concerning ##unvote
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 4:09:53 PM
#325:


IGCD and Slam are on a scum team together
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turbopuns2
11/05/18 4:10:24 PM
#326:


Johnbobb is smoking crack

Change my mind
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Obellisk
11/05/18 4:11:28 PM
#327:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
It's not my only reason to be on him but right now I feel like John bob being the way he is being is more concerning ##unvote


And that's fine, I'm not condemning you for it. I just think that dyl being town or scum, he handled his claim as well as can be expected.

Mind you him being one of two people to visit sheep and no deaths and dyl not claiming to have protected him in anyway is much more concerning.
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:12:10 PM
#328:


Johnbobb posted...
IGCD and Slam are on a scum team together


GIVE US REASONS! WHY?! You're not helping town at all.

How am I scum?
How is IGCD Scum?
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:13:00 PM
#329:


Obellisk posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
It's not my only reason to be on him but right now I feel like John bob being the way he is being is more concerning ##unvote


And that's fine, I'm not condemning you for it. I just think that dyl being town or scum, he handled his claim as well as can be expected.

Mind you him being one of two people to visit sheep and no deaths and dyl not claiming to have protected him in anyway is much more concerning.


That is 100% fair
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 4:13:21 PM
#330:


found it

And speak of the devil, I got my clarification. Okay, claiming now.

I am essentially a one-time reflexive night phase omniblocker. Essentially, if I get targeted by anything at night, I automatically block everything targeted at me at night. This includes the mafia kill.

It only works the first time I get targeted at night, and I have no control over it. So nobody target me at night. No doctor, no cop, no whatever else we have. I will automatically block everything the first night something is used in me at night.

I have confirmed that this only works at night, so if we have someone who can confirm me during the day (as with DTG's claimed power) I won't block it and will keep my power active.

This also means that I have to be targeted on two separate nights to actually die, minus a lynch or something like a Dayvig.

Since I have no actual control over my power, it doesn't help me to keep it secret, and I'd rather avoid screwing with the town powers when I can use it to draw scum to have to hit me twice instead.

@DoomTheGyarados read this, and decide if having a confirmed town who can't die Night 1 is something you'd like to have. If it is, scan me.

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turbopuns2
11/05/18 4:13:24 PM
#331:


Obellisk posted...
I just think that dyl being town or scum, he handled his claim as well as can be expected.


What is the the rationale behind Town not claiming that role day 1?
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HanOfTheNekos
11/05/18 4:16:38 PM
#332:


Ok, home. Let's hit a few quick points here:

Obellisk posted...
Wohhh, when have I even remotely buddied up to youHan?

Arguing your accuser is scum has nothing to do with you, guy.


1. DYL votes me.
2. I vote DYL. Say SBell is Scummy too.
3. SBell votes me.
4. DYL looks bad.
5. SBell hops off of supporting DYL against me, starts supporting attacks on DYL.

Deny it if you want, but it appears like you are siding with me to convince me to not think of you as Scum, particularly if you see I'm not an easy mislynch.

turbopuns2 posted...
Han what was the post that made you know DYL is scum? There's always that one.


Unfortunately, it wasn't his first post of the game, so I can't keep up that streak. Thought he looked Scummy but I attributed that to him being DYL and thought he was Town for it, then he started focusing on Harris which was odd because I thought Harris looked very Town.

It was his post where he voted on me that did the trick. So much gusto with so little sense. And the way he stuck to it convinced me I was right. Really read as Scum making a bold statement but fumbling their reasoning.

turbopuns2 posted...
can anyone think of a reason off-hand that counters the notion of sbell, dyl, and neablis all being scum?


Ever since Neab said that he's been thinking along the same lines of me, I've been paying more attention to him and don't think he's Scum.

turbopuns2 posted...
DYL read as very subdued to me near EoD, like he was deliberately being very controlled. Not sure if that could be because he's scum or because he's just town who is used to being mislynched frequently.

SBell from the posts I've seen seems to be doing a lot of talking around the exterior, like about roles and flavor. Just last page he said 2 or 3 times he was done thinking about gladiator but then kept posting about it. Doesn't feel genuine.


You know, in Monster Mafia, I said that SBell was Scum and then didn't push it as much. I said he was likely Scum here. So he's probably Scum.

Johnbobb posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Don't be an idiot

ugh this is so dumb


JB, I've had to deal with Towns throwing games because they refused to listen to confirmed Town Chris and Han. It's aggravating, and I refuse to deal with that again.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Does dyl claim not sit well with everyone else. He had a fake claim.. then comes back with another weird claim? If DYL is "town" I really dont like this fake claim thing beacuse that's kind of the scum game and the fake role would totally be on the safe list. Could this be 2 fake claims and DYL be scum


Went with a vanilla claim, then when Corrik was hinting at an alternative truth, DYL's claim conveniently changed to fit it.
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:19:16 PM
#333:


But John Bob we had no night kill. Dont you think that would perfectly fit in with the claim?!
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IfGodCouldDie
11/05/18 4:20:30 PM
#334:


Johnbobb posted...
bPBvLjT

Considering you have to convince us that picture is wrong. You can't lynch him by yourself.
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benjamin3740
11/05/18 4:23:50 PM
#335:


[3] Neab - Puns, Corrik, Kanz
[2] DYL - (Kanz), IGCD, Han, (Sultan)
[1] Sultan - Johnbobb
[0] IGCD - (Kanz), (Johnbobb)
[0] Corrik - (IGCD)
[0] Sheep - (Kanz)
[0] Kanz - (Corrik)

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:24:30 PM
#336:


Well I could reclaim my role though I didnt think I would need to do so
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 4:25:41 PM
#337:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Johnbobb posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Don't be an idiot

ugh this is so dumb


JB, I've had to deal with Towns throwing games because they refused to listen to confirmed Town Chris and Han. It's aggravating, and I refuse to deal with that again.

you are not anywhere near confirmed town. Nobody has any reason to listen to you over anyone else
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HanOfTheNekos
11/05/18 4:28:21 PM
#338:


I wasn't confirmed Town at first then either. But I knew what I was talking about, which should be apparent to this point.

If you're going to just ignore other peoples' arguments, then why are you even playing this game?
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Sheep007
11/05/18 4:28:31 PM
#339:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Well I could reclaim my role though I didnt think I would need to do so

Sure, why not?

turbopuns2 posted...
Obellisk posted...
I just think that dyl being town or scum, he handled his claim as well as can be expected.


What is the the rationale behind Town not claiming that role day 1?

Depends on how bad you're willing to believe DYL is
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Sheep007
11/05/18 4:30:18 PM
#340:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
But John Bob we had no night kill. Dont you think that would perfectly fit in with the claim?!

What does this mean?
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:32:54 PM
#341:


I am the Ultimate Lucky player

Basically avoid the first and only the first night action is avoided
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htaeD
11/05/18 4:33:03 PM
#342:


Johnbobb posted...
##unvote
##Vote: SultanOfSlam


100% sure on this


Just how many hunches do you have Johnbobb?
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HanOfTheNekos
11/05/18 4:34:01 PM
#343:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I am the Ultimate Lucky player

Basically avoid the first and only the first night action is avoided


That's not what your predecessor claimed.
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:34:24 PM
#344:


Sheep007 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
But John Bob we had no night kill. Dont you think that would perfectly fit in with the claim?!

What does this mean?


If I was targeted it would be avoided atleast that's how my PM made it sound
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Sheep007
11/05/18 4:35:58 PM
#345:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Sheep007 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
But John Bob we had no night kill. Dont you think that would perfectly fit in with the claim?!

What does this mean?


If I was targeted it would be avoided atleast that's how my PM made it sound

Oh, you mean your claim? You think you were shot last night?
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:36:25 PM
#346:


Sheep007 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Sheep007 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
But John Bob we had no night kill. Dont you think that would perfectly fit in with the claim?!

What does this mean?


If I was targeted it would be avoided atleast that's how my PM made it sound

Oh, you mean your claim? You think you were shot last night?


Its possible.
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Sheep007
11/05/18 4:37:29 PM
#347:


I'd safely wager that you weren't.
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Johnbobb
11/05/18 4:38:44 PM
#348:


hey Han tell me what you think of Slam and IGCD

htaeD posted...
Johnbobb posted...
##unvote
##Vote: SultanOfSlam


100% sure on this


Just how many hunches do you have Johnbobb?

a few
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/05/18 4:39:52 PM
#349:


Sheep007 posted...
I'd safely wager that you weren't.


Then why no night kill?
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Obellisk
11/05/18 4:39:59 PM
#350:


turbopuns2 posted...
Obellisk posted...
I just think that dyl being town or scum, he handled his claim as well as can be expected.


What is the the rationale behind Town not claiming that role day 1?


Not knowing role specifics I can't say exactly.

He just visits people and that's it? Does it notify said person? Can he be seen doing it? Can it be used in a way to trap scum?

Town power regardless of its futility should be kept protected as long as possible.
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