Board 8 > Danganronpa M: Chapter 2 - The Game Within The Game #mafia

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Tbh I'm halfway expecting to be gladiator today lol

Heh
bull reads
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If Doop gladiates you without warning, we vote him instead.
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Neablis posted...

Thankfully its d2 and can reevaluate as I go so your point?

That it's a hell of a walkback and some weak ass shit son

If you commit to your reads COMMIT to your reads

don't vote based on some weak-ass gutfeels and call it PoE
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How often are people going to accuse me of inactivity when I say IN THE TOPIC that I'm going to be at school?

Gladiator should be tonight since I'm not sure if I'm going to wake up tomorrow before the glad time limit.
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Honestly it was not super weak gut feels, I had a hard documented town read on scare/Harris slot and have other reads in the thread as well.

You can disagree with how I play the game, I had you as a coin flip and you were in the list of people I would lynch at that point, it is what it is and was trying to save my tow read.

Doopliss_Power posted...

How often are people going to accuse me of inactivity when I say IN THE TOPIC that I'm going to be at school?

Gladiator should be tonight since I'm not sure if I'm going to wake up tomorrow before the glad time limit.

Whoa there.
You know it doesnt have to be today. I would rather not force it when we're nowhere near decided on any lynch.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

How often are people going to accuse me of inactivity when I say IN THE TOPIC that I'm going to be at school?

I don't care about you being inactive for school, but...that's an interesting way to pose that question.

Where ELSE would you say it, if not in the topic, hm?

Why a coin flip over someone you suspected more? Like actually voting me instead of trying to and giving up when it didn't work even though I had people on me?
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turbopuns2 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

How often are people going to accuse me of inactivity when I say IN THE TOPIC that I'm going to be at school?

I don't care about you being inactive for school, but...that's an interesting way to pose that question.

Where ELSE would you say it, if not in the topic, hm?

I could mention I'm in high school in other topics or something.

The point is I explicitly gave everyone a warning that I wasn't going to be active for a good portion of the day and they ignored it.
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There was barely any time left and was trying to consolidate and you claimed a roll that is verifiable and more time to parse that info.

Came into the day with slight scumreads on JB and neab, glad to see they've bolstered my suspicions.
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I think Doop should not gladiate on day 2 at all. Do it when more information is on the table.

Doop would thi out expound on your read on both myself and John then

Yeah thats another thing I am gonna say before I go to sleep. Dont let doop gladiate without a consensus. And certainly not before his target has claimed.

And today is not ideal regardless.
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And get John to make sense.
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htaeD posted...

And get John to make sense.

I don't see that happening. He's basically already pled insane at this point.

Neablis posted...

Doop would thi out expound on your read on both myself and John then

You didn't really sit right with me Day 1, saying Harris was Town without any real reason for doing so (the fact you were right only makes that worse) and not doing much to scumhunt or converse. Day 2, you say you picked Kanz through PoE, then... went back on it. I noticed on Day 1 that you tend to explain things in strange ways, but using PoE as an excuse when you had multiple options, even trying to vote for one of them, and eventually settled your restrictions on "not Scare" just seems wrong. Even now, you're not pursuing your scumreads as much as you are defending that you have them.

JB's made very little sense to me the entire game. I'm not sure off the top of my head why I disliked him Day 1, but I can go and look for it, I believe it was near the end of the day. Today, though, the adamant assertion that Slam was scum based off of a relatively innocuous post and refusal to engage about his reasoning at all sets off quite a few red flags.
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Why did sheep claim having received an item in the first place?

To make sure the notion that he was shot and saved at the same time didnt persist. I presume.
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Top 3 scumlist ATM:

Neab
God
FD

This feels...right. I think there's gotta be at least one experienced scum among the scumlords and FD qualifies - but possibly another one too. Not sure who though. Corrik pings town (something I've literally never felt about him before, so I'm trusting myself here), puns saved my life and his actions don't make a lot of sense as scum unless he's super gambling

So...Han? Maybe? Possible. I need to think about it. I would be OK with a glad on either one of Neab or God ATM. Feels like a solid usage of the power.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

puns saved my life and his actions don't make a lot of sense as scum unless he's super gambling

To be fair

I like to super gamble as scum

And also

If you're indeed town, and I'm scum, I'd kill scare 100% of the time as opposed to no lynching...

The biggest question mark if I'm scum is me forcing the tiebreaker in the first place

If its town/town, scum can do whatever they want really.
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But good on Puns for knowing that.
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turbopuns2 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

puns saved my life and his actions don't make a lot of sense as scum unless he's super gambling

To be fair

I like to super gamble as scum

And also

If you're indeed town, and I'm scum, I'd kill scare 100% of the time as opposed to no lynching...

The biggest question mark if I'm scum is me forcing the tiebreaker in the first place

That's what I mean

like if you're scum there's no reason to force overtime

it's trying to be too cute, especially since I was KO'd so there was gonna be no rolefishing

And I respect b8 vets to not get cute randomly unless they're like, idk, ChaosTony or something
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turbopuns2 posted...

I think Doop should not gladiate on day 2 at all. Do it when more information is on the table.

This.

I don't doubt that Doop has the gladiate ability, and I don't feel like it's necessary to have him prove it.
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Tbh I am not sure how I didn't give any reason for Harris being town out of everyone I had probably the most verifiable reads, given they were heavily using what I would co sider a flawed meta. I also explained scare during time breaker and before?

And how did I go back on Poe? Admitting someone is a coin flip (which I did at eod as well btw) is not the same as saying I did not pose the game into a list of people I would be willing to lynch

Of course im defending myself, it's not even quite 24 hrs into the game, I am almost leading the votes and people are asking me me questions. Until dyl for instance comes back to answer why sheep I am here for interactions mostly.

Why does john refusing to explain his read makes him scum though? Hes drawing unnecessary attention to himself when he was flying somewhat under the radar for instance. Why go after someone who is universally tow read due to PREV players slot instead of going on me or dyl. It does not make sense as scum or town really dont you think

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Top 3 scumlist ATM:

Neab
God
FD

This feels...right. I think there's gotta be at least one experienced scum among the scumlords and FD qualifies - but possibly another one too. Not sure who though. Corrik pings town (something I've literally never felt about him before, so I'm trusting myself here), puns saved my life and his actions don't make a lot of sense as scum unless he's super gambling

So...Han? Maybe? Possible. I need to think about it. I would be OK with a glad on either one of Neab or God ATM. Feels like a solid usage of the power.

Wtf? How would I not qualify as an experienced player? This is such a half assed assessment of the players he listed.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

like if you're scum there's no reason to force overtime

it's trying to be too cute

You are talking to a man who listed his entire scum team minus himself in his first post of the game, in one of the most hyped player lists in like 5 years at the time

And got away with it

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Wtf? How would I not qualify as an experienced player? This is such a half assed assessment of the players he listed.

I see your point but I didn't even blink when I first read it. From Kanz's perspective that doesn't surprise me

How much have you two played together?

Neablis posted...

Tbh I am not sure how I didn't give any reason for Harris being town out of everyone I had probably the most verifiable reads, given they were heavily using what I would co sider a flawed meta. I also explained scare during time breaker and before?

And how did I go back on Poe? Admitting someone is a coin flip (which I did at eod as well btw) is not the same as saying I did not pose the game into a list of people I would be willing to lynch

Of course im defending myself, it's not even quite 24 hrs into the game, I am almost leading the votes and people are asking me me questions. Until dyl for instance comes back to answer why sheep I am here for interactions mostly.

Why does john refusing to explain his read makes him scum though? Hes drawing unnecessary attention to himself when he was flying somewhat under the radar for instance. Why go after someone who is universally tow read due to PREV players slot instead of going on me or dyl. It does not make sense as scum or town really dont you think

You went back on PoE when you gave a list of three or four people you said you thought were scum, you don't pick a coin flip out of those.

JB reads as scum that wants to be assertive but isn't quite sure how to defend his assertions because he doesn't really believe it. He's fairly new, isn't he?
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turbopuns2 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

like if you're scum there's no reason to force overtime

it's trying to be too cute

You are talking to a man who listed his entire scum team minus himself in his first post of the game, in one of the most hyped player lists in like 5 years at the time

And got away with it

...Point

I can't allow biases to blind me, admittedly
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turbopuns2 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Wtf? How would I not qualify as an experienced player? This is such a half assed assessment of the players he listed.

I see your point but I didn't even blink when I first read it. From Kanz's perspective that doesn't surprise me

How much have you two played together?

Maybe 1 or 2 games so I guess I can see why he wouldn't realize I was experienced.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Neablis posted...

Tbh I am not sure how I didn't give any reason for Harris being town out of everyone I had probably the most verifiable reads, given they were heavily using what I would co sider a flawed meta. I also explained scare during time breaker and before?

And how did I go back on Poe? Admitting someone is a coin flip (which I did at eod as well btw) is not the same as saying I did not pose the game into a list of people I would be willing to lynch

Of course im defending myself, it's not even quite 24 hrs into the game, I am almost leading the votes and people are asking me me questions. Until dyl for instance comes back to answer why sheep I am here for interactions mostly.

Why does john refusing to explain his read makes him scum though? Hes drawing unnecessary attention to himself when he was flying somewhat under the radar for instance. Why go after someone who is universally tow read due to PREV players slot instead of going on me or dyl. It does not make sense as scum or town really dont you think

You went back on PoE when you gave a list of three or four people you said you thought were scum, you don't pick a coin flip out of those.

JB reads as scum that wants to be assertive but isn't quite sure how to defend his assertions because he doesn't really believe it. He's fairly new, isn't he?

No, he just hasn't played in a while.
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Also the Oiler game is on so I'll be here intermittently.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Neablis posted...

Tbh I am not sure how I didn't give any reason for Harris being town out of everyone I had probably the most verifiable reads, given they were heavily using what I would co sider a flawed meta. I also explained scare during time breaker and before?

And how did I go back on Poe? Admitting someone is a coin flip (which I did at eod as well btw) is not the same as saying I did not pose the game into a list of people I would be willing to lynch

Of course im defending myself, it's not even quite 24 hrs into the game, I am almost leading the votes and people are asking me me questions. Until dyl for instance comes back to answer why sheep I am here for interactions mostly.

Why does john refusing to explain his read makes him scum though? Hes drawing unnecessary attention to himself when he was flying somewhat under the radar for instance. Why go after someone who is universally tow read due to PREV players slot instead of going on me or dyl. It does not make sense as scum or town really dont you think

You went back on PoE when you gave a list of three or four people you said you thought were scum, you don't pick a coin flip out of those.

JB reads as scum that wants to be assertive but isn't quite sure how to defend his assertions because he doesn't really believe it. He's fairly new, isn't he?

I do not see why if you have a list of players that you would lynch into and consolidating to get your not tow read lynched is backing out of Poe though?

I disagree with JB I do not think what you posted makes him scum though. I think it makes him illogical and not helping town but not necessarily scum. In fact the way he approached it and how I explained it makes me want to say foolish town lol

IfGodCouldDie posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Wtf? How would I not qualify as an experienced player? This is such a half assed assessment of the players he listed.

I see your point but I didn't even blink when I first read it. From Kanz's perspective that doesn't surprise me

How much have you two played together?

Maybe 1 or 2 games so I guess I can see why he wouldn't realize I was experienced.

It's less about experience in terms of sheer games played and more like...player level, I guess

I have a lot of games played but I consider myself a noob compared to people like Dels, MI, Puns or Han

they would kick my ass in any mafia game consistently and thus I assume that if a scumteam is being unusually competent, then at least one player on that level has to be making moves
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What is an unusually competent scum team "move"
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Obellisk posted...

What is an unusually competent scum team "move"

Dunking Chris asap if he didn't kill himself

stupid scum would softball and get bodied for it, for instance
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

What is an unusually competent scum team "move"

Dunking Chris asap if he didn't kill himself

stupid scum would softball and get bodied for it, for instance

What do you mean by softball?
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Important to keep in mind this scum team didn't hesitate to kill Chris

Question remains whether they had a 1-time day kill that could be used whenever or if they, like FD suggested, were FORCED to use their first standard kill during the day phase

Slightly awkward ninja

IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

You may not understand it. Doesn't matter. I want to hear what you think about yesterday. Why did you vote me? Why do you think we had no kills last night? Who do you think came off looking scummiest at end of day?

I voted you because I was trying to swing a vote off of scare, who I believed was town. I assume doctor or Roleblocker, maybe they targeted Neab because they thought his claim was fake and believed he was actually something else. Doop is my number one scum read at the moment.

Hey igcd can you explain why I am in this post? Wrong name?

Neablis posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

You may not understand it. Doesn't matter. I want to hear what you think about yesterday. Why did you vote me? Why do you think we had no kills last night? Who do you think came off looking scummiest at end of day?

I voted you because I was trying to swing a vote off of scare, who I believed was town. I assume doctor or Roleblocker, maybe they targeted Neab because they thought his claim was fake and believed he was actually something else. Doop is my number one scum read at the moment.

Hey igcd can you explain why I am in this post? Wrong name?

Because you claimed the one time roleblock thing, didn't you?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Neablis posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

You may not understand it. Doesn't matter. I want to hear what you think about yesterday. Why did you vote me? Why do you think we had no kills last night? Who do you think came off looking scummiest at end of day?

I voted you because I was trying to swing a vote off of scare, who I believed was town. I assume doctor or Roleblocker, maybe they targeted Neab because they thought his claim was fake and believed he was actually something else. Doop is my number one scum read at the moment.

Hey igcd can you explain why I am in this post? Wrong name?

Because you claimed the one time roleblock thing, didn't you?

Negative I haven't claimed anything

Obellisk posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

What is an unusually competent scum team "move"

Dunking Chris asap if he didn't kill himself

stupid scum would softball and get bodied for it, for instance

What do you mean by softball?

"Oh we can let chris live a day, we can get him tomorrow"

I've seen this a couple times before

it goes poorly every single time
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Neablis posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Neablis posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

You may not understand it. Doesn't matter. I want to hear what you think about yesterday. Why did you vote me? Why do you think we had no kills last night? Who do you think came off looking scummiest at end of day?

I voted you because I was trying to swing a vote off of scare, who I believed was town. I assume doctor or Roleblocker, maybe they targeted Neab because they thought his claim was fake and believed he was actually something else. Doop is my number one scum read at the moment.

Hey igcd can you explain why I am in this post? Wrong name?

Because you claimed the one time roleblock thing, didn't you?

Negative I haven't claimed anything

"Oh" then I was confused and misremembered you being the one to claim that. Who did claim that, can someone remind me?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Neablis posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Neablis posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

You may not understand it. Doesn't matter. I want to hear what you think about yesterday. Why did you vote me? Why do you think we had no kills last night? Who do you think came off looking scummiest at end of day?

I voted you because I was trying to swing a vote off of scare, who I believed was town. I assume doctor or Roleblocker, maybe they targeted Neab because they thought his claim was fake and believed he was actually something else. Doop is my number one scum read at the moment.

Hey igcd can you explain why I am in this post? Wrong name?

Because you claimed the one time roleblock thing, didn't you?

Negative I haven't claimed anything

"Oh" then I was confused and misremembered you being the one to claim that. Who did claim that, can someone remind me?

Ffnut slot I think

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

What is an unusually competent scum team "move"

Dunking Chris asap if he didn't kill himself

stupid scum would softball and get bodied for it, for instance

What do you mean by softball?

"Oh we can let chris live a day, we can get him tomorrow"

I've seen this a couple times before

it goes poorly every single time

Imo mafia strategy kill the person most likely to figure out the game ftw!

Neablis posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

What is an unusually competent scum team "move"

Dunking Chris asap if he didn't kill himself

stupid scum would softball and get bodied for it, for instance

What do you mean by softball?

"Oh we can let chris live a day, we can get him tomorrow"

I've seen this a couple times before

it goes poorly every single time

Imo mafia strategy kill the person most likely to figure out the game ftw!

Like the guy that will confirm town or die trying?
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