Board 8 > Danganronpa Mafia: Chapter 2: Part 2

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Who ended on scare again?

Pirate replacing out and scare refusing to claim.. It was a perfect storm for scum to pile on and force a mislynch with good reasoning.
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Topic 1 is gone iirc
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FD's walls here are actually examining content and coming to conclusions, instead of just being content for contents sake.
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Obellisk posted...

Who ended on scare again?

Pirate replacing out and scare refusing to claim.. It was a perfect storm for scum to pile on and force a mislynch with good reasoning.

Stop copying me.
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So when are we gonna all get our shit together and lynch neablis

he's looked pretty fuckin awful today yo
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Sheep007 posted...

Anyway, I think God and Neab, at least, are the same alignment, and I'm currently thinking Town on both. Probably God a bit more than Neab.

How do you get the conclusion they must be the same alignment?

turbopuns2 posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Anyway, I think God and Neab, at least, are the same alignment, and I'm currently thinking Town on both. Probably God a bit more than Neab.

How do you get the conclusion they must be the same alignment?

How does he get the conclusion they're town, more like

they read as both scum to me
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Think you guys should be more focused in finding a single scum before looking for linked ones.

Start with neablis or kanz.
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@Neablis
@KanzarisKelshen

Claim.
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It would help scum more than town if I claimed.

Neablis posted...

It would help scum more than town if I claimed.

Cool soft claim. Doesn't help us.
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I know right? I am pretty cool guy

The dude who was in God's slot prior to him reeked of noob town to me, and everything I've seen since has been how I'd imagine God would act as Town. Nothing particularly crazy yet, and a bit more cautious than usual, but I don't know if that's from his scum game or just him being better than he was. Plus he and Neab have had similar thought processes to me, there's things which they've stated both before and after I've said those things. That's generally a good sign of town to me (particularly the before), as generally scum are looking at things slightly differently with the information bonus they have, so any similar thought processes are more likely from Town. Granted, they could be buddying up or simply following someone so they can take the blame for a mislynch, but I'm not really feeling like that's the case.

Kanz, I feel like you're more than a little biased against those on you, or just trying to throw shade yourself. Can I just ask: what motivation did scum have for lynching you? Nobody is afraid of you over Scare, and a special to attempt to hit a power role over Scare, who was basically a guaranteed lynch and nobody could really be called scum for voting, is just reckless and more likely to get scum lynched in future than help them.

Don't particularly want Neab's claim since I think he's Town, but Kanz' tomorrow would be nice.
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Neablis, there is a difference between saying no and saying 'lol scum would love to know what I am'
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htaeD posted...

Neablis, there is a difference between saying no and saying 'lol scum would love to know what I am'

Regardless of my role it is true, if I am VT or power it helps scum by claiming here. If I am vt it helps narrow who can be power and if I am a power just leaves me to be shot.

So yeah it would just help scum in either case, which is why I dont think kanz should claim either at this point.

##Unvote
##Vote: Neablis

I'm down for a neab lynch.
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Neablis posted...

htaeD posted...

Neablis, there is a difference between saying no and saying 'lol scum would love to know what I am'

Regardless of my role it is true, if I am VT or power it helps scum by claiming here. If I am vt it helps narrow who can be power and if I am a power just leaves me to be shot.

So yeah it would just help scum in either case, which is why I dont think kanz should claim either at this point.

Ummm, what?

Does it help town or scum just to lynch you without a claim?

See day 1 lynch.
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By the way
You usethe l0gfaqs to read deleted topics

replace 0 with o.
Gamefaqs dislikes that place for some dumb reason.
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Obellisk posted...

Neablis posted...

htaeD posted...

Neablis, there is a difference between saying no and saying 'lol scum would love to know what I am'

Regardless of my role it is true, if I am VT or power it helps scum by claiming here. If I am vt it helps narrow who can be power and if I am a power just leaves me to be shot.

So yeah it would just help scum in either case, which is why I dont think kanz should claim either at this point.

Ummm, what?

Does it help town or scum just to lynch you without a claim?

See day 1 lynch.

I do not believe at this moment I am in the lead for a lynch and truthfully this is a themed game any claim could potentially be town or scum, so what does that matter really?

I feel like I have been forthcoming in my reads and have attempted to help town and did not play down when my tow read scare was being lynched. The cases pushed against me I feel have not had merit and I have responded to everything doop said, kanz is tunneled and I think he and cor are town so it is what it is

Even in themes games, some roles can only be town or scum
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I disagree greatly, seen plenty of games that gave players roles then rng alignment.

But we are entering semantics/game theory territory. So if you have a legit reason I should claim or a reason to think I am scum Express it death.

Kanz, I feel like you're more than a little biased against those on you, or just trying to throw shade yourself. Can I just ask: what motivation did scum have for lynching you?

Getting off DYL is my first thought, and getting an easy kill is the second. Neither of these is implausible, tbqh. The way I see it, you seem townish, Sheep, but the wagoners that followed you super weren't. And bad scum is very commonly found on stupid wagons of this sort.
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I wasnt one of the ones asking for your claim yet.
I was just stating your refusal sounded like it gave away too much and then I was just getting caught up in semantics as well.

Admittedly, I kinda forgot why you were getting votes in the first place.
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Ok, I am refusing to claim in any sense atm.

But seriously if anyone has any other questions for me I have to take some people to vote just @ me or leave the questions and I'll get to then when I can

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Getting off DYL is my first thought, and getting an easy kill is the second. Neither of these is implausible, tbqh. The way I see it, you seem townish, Sheep, but the wagoners that followed you super weren't. And bad scum is very commonly found on stupid wagons of this sort.

I think the first is plausible, the second isn't really. "Easy kills" just aren't worth it. If you're that easy to kill, better to do it when there's not already a strong town player in the lead. I wouldn't be shocked if DYL is scum but I don't think it's a big negative mark against IGCD/Neab if he is.
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Hell I'm pretty sure some of them are currently voting him so it'd be a pretty pathetic save if that were the case
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Oh right I remember now. That whole PoE thing.
You did explain that plenty of times. And while that was a poor-looking reason to vote Kanz, its not making me think 'must lynch Neab now'

Oh well back to the old topics.
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turbopuns2 posted...

@Forceful_Dragon because you have been working hard digging up info I will help you out here and save you the trouble

from chapter 1 part 2, page 1

Corrik posted...

Am I given release to leave this puns lynch yet?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Yes. Puns is town.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Btw I wasnt being slick earlier. But the more puns posts I read the more obvious it becomes.

Hrmmm, I forgot that happened!

I would still feel better if you would just tell the truth about your role, but there it is.

##unvote: puns
##vote: SBell aka Obellisk aka Stu

Apologies to Chris for doing his host a disservice by using the wrong opinion as tiebreaker.

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Sheep007 posted...

FD often makes back-analysis people judge as useless, Neab. I kinda like it, saves my mobile-friendly ass having to backtrack for stuff on occasion.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Hrmmm, I forgot that happened!

I would still feel better if you would just tell the truth about your role, but there it is.

##unvote: puns
##vote: SBell aka Obellisk aka Stu

Sbell will do just fine Thanks.
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Time to go vote! Back later.

Ciao
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Time to go vote! Back later.

Ciao

But you just did vote...
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sbell for governor!
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Plot twist: whoever gets lynched today doesn't actually get lynched, but instead gets a role switch into Mayor.
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Are you volunteering to test that out, Doop?
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Hmm SBell votes from FD and Puns now

Do I bite or do I go DYL
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Sheep007 posted...

Hmm SBell votes from FD and Puns now

Do I bite or do I go DYL

Depends on how you feel about fd and puns I suppose.
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Obellisk posted...

Who ended on scare again?

Pirate replacing out and scare refusing to claim.. It was a perfect storm for scum to pile on and force a mislynch with good reasoning.

Thats pretty much what I was saying in regards to the dyl saving as well. It was a point I pointed out especially in regards to Corrik coming in and making sure we all know he felt his vote was justified.
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I would hate for us to lynch town again just for dyl to again not be lynched.

Then day 3 we finally lynch dyl and find that he's scum and we are stoopid for not getting him day 1
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Obellisk posted...

Neablis posted...

htaeD posted...

Neablis, there is a difference between saying no and saying 'lol scum would love to know what I am'

Regardless of my role it is true, if I am VT or power it helps scum by claiming here. If I am vt it helps narrow who can be power and if I am a power just leaves me to be shot.

So yeah it would just help scum in either case, which is why I dont think kanz should claim either at this point.

Ummm, what?

Does it help town or scum just to lynch you without a claim?

See day 1 lynch.

If he is town it help scum to lynch him regardless.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Obellisk posted...

Neablis posted...

htaeD posted...

Neablis, there is a difference between saying no and saying 'lol scum would love to know what I am'

Regardless of my role it is true, if I am VT or power it helps scum by claiming here. If I am vt it helps narrow who can be power and if I am a power just leaves me to be shot.

So yeah it would just help scum in either case, which is why I dont think kanz should claim either at this point.

Ummm, what?

Does it help town or scum just to lynch you without a claim?

See day 1 lynch.

If he is town it help scum to lynch him regardless.

It was a rhetorical question.
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Sheep007 posted...

Are you volunteering to test that out, Doop?

A gladiate would be pretty fitting.
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We don't have nearly enough information on this day 2 to gladiate anyone.
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Obellisk posted...

We don't have nearly enough information on this day 2 to gladiate anyone.

It doesn't matter how much information you have. It matters what he thinks. And, a day when we have no strong leads is the best day to use it if he feels someone is scum
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Obellisk posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Hmm SBell votes from FD and Puns now

Do I bite or do I go DYL

Depends on how you feel about fd and puns I suppose.

I should think it depends on how he feels about you

Doop. Force claims with your power. Start actually using ur role instead of acting like a bumblimg goofball.
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Also, isn't it too late to use it anyways? It's like 7 hours to deadline.
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I mean I feel very good about FD and alright about Puns

But then I feel fairly good about Han and better about the others on DYL, plus I feel worse on him than I do you.
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God that sounded confusing

But yeah DYL would be a decent lynch

Also don't like how he harped on at Han about inactivity but he's been almost a non-presence today. Wasn't around at deadline yesterday either. Could well be scum projecting.
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Yeah we missed the gladboat hours ago.

Also I dont know if anyone still treats Kanz as a major suspect, but looking back at day1 I really dont see any malice from him and he did make it very clear he was sick and struggling to stay in the game.
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But DYL was around for deadline?

I mean I thought he wasnt either, but thats just because I saw Neablis post about it.

But DYL seemed to make at least some posts during the last hour.
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