Board 8 > Danganronpa M - CHAPTER 3: Use Your Noodle

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KanzarisKelshen posted...

IGCD: NOTE: God voted SBell at the end and his vote was not counted. This is just a host error probably, but worth noting because EoD votals say he didn't end day on anyone and that isn't true. Regardless, he was very noisy when the lynch was on Han saying it was bullshit then suddenly went super quiet later on and disappeared. Considering how busy EoD was, I don't like this at all.

Actually my vote wasn't counted because I intentionally didn't format correctly, was trying to see if someone would try and quick hammer.
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I actually think I believe Neab is scum before DYL because Neab does have that awful vote reasoning for day 1 still there. People tried hard to get johnbobb to counter sbell's lynch but Sbell seemed reluctant to join neabs lunch until the very end, and many who were willing to lynch johnbobb were not willing to on neab to save Sbell.
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Lol awful vote reasoning (per you) v a scummy claim which I need to check SBell reaction to it as well, I think without confirming that sbell landed it was not a scummy claim. But that's just from memoey

Truthfully if we go 1 v 1 here I dont mind its generally a win for the town in that case.

If the town does decide to lynch me just dont hammer me before 24-36 hours as I at least want to put my reads together in a document.

Tag
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It is interesting looking back on the previous days, Sbell is pretty content leaving his vote on DYL when he had a possibility to surpass Scare for the lynch. It probably should be mentioned though that Sbell does not seem to be adverse to bussing teammates such as what he did to chris last game so it probably does not mean much.

Also that is a point against me as well as he switched to me eod, totally null tell I think given his past games. So no positives for either of us.

Sbells strange reaction to the Han v DYL fight is interesting, originally sided with DYL and then ended up going with Han after a small amount of pressure on him.I still more than likely think the most probable answer to N1 is that Sbell more than likely was trying to carry the kp to Han and Kanz saved him.

Sbell

Bad read time also, Sbell be insistent about not knowing what a glad does is interesting. If doop is in the scum chat with him why post this in the thread when he can ask in the scum chat? This is super wifom and doesn't make anyone anything, but its an interesting thought.

Obellisk posted...
Sultan, your post comes off scummy because dyl was close to being lynched and was trying to protect his scanning role, if you are going to die you don't get your night action. If you reveal said night action then don't get lynched you are now the eater of all roleblocks.

Nothing about dyls claiming was bad or scummy in anyway.

Now you want to vote him for other reasons and I'm a o k with that.

I generally do not believe in slips....but this would be hilarious if DYL is a flavour scum cop or something.

But yeah Sbell is pretty wishy washy on his read on DYL, he keeps saying things like well I do not think that the claim is scummy, but your reasoning for him being scummy is bad, but yeah hes still a good vote.

It is a bit weird tbh at this point, it reminds me of someone who wants enough cred if they flip while trying to justify not being hard scum reading them a bit.

I do think everything from my perspective heavily implies that DYL is scum and some of Sbell reaction to him point to that as well I think.

Roleblocked.

I wouldn't forgive myself if I read DYL as Scum all game and gave up on him just for him to flip Scum. But I'm not sure why DYL claims his action on FD if he is Scum (unless Neab is Scum too and they're trying to set up someone to take the fall to make ther let look better, but this scenario only makes more sense if Corrik is also Scum).

If Neab and DYL are both Town, then we'd be looking at probably a ninja or poisoning. Or a vig who had yet to claim.
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Actually, the vig thing doesn't make sense if both are telling the truth about visiting FD.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Roleblocked.

I wouldn't forgive myself if I read DYL as Scum all game and gave up on him just for him to flip Scum. But I'm not sure why DYL claims his action on FD if he is Scum (unless Neab is Scum too and they're trying to set up someone to take the fall to make ther let look better, but this scenario only makes more sense if Corrik is also Scum).

If Neab and DYL are both Town, then we'd be looking at probably a ninja or poisoning. Or a vig who had yet to claim.

The most likely scenario is that one of neab or dyl is scum. That sbell put the kill in night 1 but then after he died either neab or dyl put the kill in night 2.

I think they still are unsure if I can see who visits the person or not and don't want to get caught with their hands in the cookie jar if I am lying.
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TBH does corrik know everyone who gets visitors or how does his power work. Its pretty...fortunate that he guessed the exact person we both visited both nights. The odds of that or that DYL and myself would go to the same person is insane (and that corrik would check that person as well) unless i'm misunderstanding corrik power.

If that's the case, I'd wager on DYL being the Scum here.

Like I've been saying all game.
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Neablis posted...

TBH does corrik know everyone who gets visitors or how does his power work. Its pretty...fortunate that he guessed the exact person we both visited both nights. The odds of that or that DYL and myself would go to the same person is insane (and that corrik would check that person as well) unless i'm misunderstanding corrik power.

I can assure you that it does not work how you think it does, but I think it is interesting you are trying to find out specifics on it after my just last post said if you guys are scum you are probably covering bases claiming ur targets because you are unsure of the specifics.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

If that's the case, I'd wager on DYL being the Scum here.

Like I've been saying all game.

Think neab makes more sense based on his day 1 reasoning for his vote. He confirms as inventor to sheep then puts the night kill in night 2 on someone who conveniently can't confirm it night 2.

That said, neab did seem genuine in twilight last night.
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Corrik posted...

Neablis posted...

TBH does corrik know everyone who gets visitors or how does his power work. Its pretty...fortunate that he guessed the exact person we both visited both nights. The odds of that or that DYL and myself would go to the same person is insane (and that corrik would check that person as well) unless i'm misunderstanding corrik power.

I can assure you that it does not work how you think it does, but I think it is interesting you are trying to find out specifics on it after my just last post said if you guys are scum you are probably covering bases claiming ur targets because you are unsure of the specifics.

The question of 'why did Corrik pick FD?' had been rolling around in my head for a while.
But if the answer is hidden in role specifics. Then I am okay with getting the answer on a later day.
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It really does not matter, keep the specifics to yourself cor.

My reasoning for visiting FD was this, I was going to give someone I thought was town an ability. I thought FD had a low risk of being rollblocked because we had a claimed cop and jailkeeper. I thought the RB and the kill would go elsewhere so I picked someone I thought was town but outside the kill.

Yeah, I picked badly I guess?

Questions
Did you know if these 'abilities' could be used alongside a towns power on the same night? (curious as to whether you even considered using it on someone who already claimed like Corrik or Han)
Also why sheep night1?
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Dyl is still probably scum. We keep going back and looking at other people why have we strayed away from DYL?
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Neablis posted...

It really does not matter, keep the specifics to yourself cor.

My reasoning for visiting FD was this, I was going to give someone I thought was town an ability. I thought FD had a low risk of being rollblocked because we had a claimed cop and jailkeeper. I thought the RB and the kill would go elsewhere so I picked someone I thought was town but outside the kill.

Yeah, I picked badly I guess?

Why would it matter if he was roleblocked with you giving him a gift?
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htaeD posted...

Questions
Did you know if these 'abilities' could be used alongside a towns power on the same night? (curious as to whether you even considered using it on someone who already claimed like Corrik or Han)
Also why sheep night1?

The abilities I assign are extra abilities, that can be used during the day or night phase depending on what i assigned. As long as they completed the objective at least.

Sheep was one of my biggest town reads D1, we agreed on almost everything to do with the thread. I thought he was a safe bet to not get killed by scum as well in that situation.

Corrik posted...

Neablis posted...

It really does not matter, keep the specifics to yourself cor.

My reasoning for visiting FD was this, I was going to give someone I thought was town an ability. I thought FD had a low risk of being rollblocked because we had a claimed cop and jailkeeper. I thought the RB and the kill would go elsewhere so I picked someone I thought was town but outside the kill.

Yeah, I picked badly I guess?

Why would it matter if he was roleblocked with you giving him a gift?

By being roleblocked I meant the next night as well, we currently have cop claim by han your watcher claim and kanz jailkeeper. It is very unlikely that with all of that going on that fd would of ate a roleblock and could of used the ability I wanted to give him.

Looking back, Neablis had the worser reaction to Sbells commuter claim.
In that he voted Doop instead and then John.

That said. I could see some scum bussing him right off the bat. After that claim. Not all though. With the cop revealed, scum wouldnt love to keep their godfather alive. I have seen too many towns eat themselves because of godfather paranoia.
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Frankly, Neab. I would have worried more about nightkills instead of roleblocks. They're a little more immediate.
(I know that sounds obvious now <.<)
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Yes your right in that, but I also did not think with so many claims like corrik/han/kanz that FD would be soaking a shot with all of that as well Death.

So am I Gladiating Neab or DYL? My vote's on Neab.

Neab
Doop

DYL
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I guess dyl claims where alright so idk need to see who is a better scum option beacuse not solid on him either.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

So am I Gladiating Neab or DYL? My vote's on Neab.

Neab
Doop

DYL

Neab would be the "safer" option
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Doopliss_Power posted...

So am I Gladiating Neab or DYL? My vote's on Neab.

Neab
Doop

DYL

Gladiate whoever you want that is your biggest scum target. The fact you keep asking for approval to basically choose someone reeks of scum looking for an excuse if the other person flips town and to act like you didn't wanna do it
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The real question is,is doop actually a gladiator or is he just doing us?

He has said he was going to gladiate someone every day basically and hasnt dont it yet so I won't believe it until I see it basically.
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Doop this is no offense, Just gladiate whoever the hell you want literally.

It is your power if you want to glad me just put it in and lets go.

Cool.

##ChessMatch: Neablis

e4
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... or don't gladiate because it doesn't actually help Town at all.
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Does that mean I have to vote Doop again

##Vote: Doop

Doop is scum but don't hammer early please

If you lynch Neab I stg I will personally end you tomorrow
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Gladiate forces us to choose between Doop and Neab. Takes DYL off the table.

If this is real then I hate this.
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I hate this too. Why was this done before everyone could have their say in the matter???
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We have a role confirmed inventor (not alignment confirmed) versus a role confirmed gladiator (not alignment confirmed).

Hmmm = /
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I want a confim from the host that the challenge is going before I vote but I'd also would love to hear arguments against both of them.
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htaeD posted...

I hate this too. Why was this done before everyone could have their say in the matter???

Say your theatrics for someone that cares. Scummm.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I want a confim from the host that the challenge is going before I vote but I'd also would love to hear arguments against both of them.

Well, the argument for neablis is that he went to the nightkill night 2. And his day 1 reasoning for why he wanted to lynch kanz "POE".

The argument for doop is... That he kinda has been butt this game?
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Corrik posted...

versus a role confirmed gladiator

This isn't true.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik posted...

versus a role confirmed gladiator

This isn't true.

There is no way he isn't actually gladiator.
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I suppose it does at least give me less stuff to read for today..
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Ok, well I am going to vote Doop if this is happening.
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Either there is a ninja or Corrik is scum (which I doubt, although scum Watcher/motion detector has been in my mind since I saw Han's claim) I think both DYL and Neab are Town, now. Absolutely no reason for DYL to claim that on FD if he isn't being truthful, imo (and he didn't try to kill me the night before), and Neab already proved that he is inventor, plus FD follows the thought process I think he would go through (of probable town who aren't going to die).
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Also Neab did you seriously imagine I was gonna vote Puns for a bloody flavour cop of all things

Does that mean Puns was your biggest scumread?
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I think noob is likelier to be scum. But, DYL has a role that doesn't exist in very many mafia games. However, it would make sense with my role.
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Also Corrik being Motion Detector or whatever the hell it's meant to be called is a really good point in DYL's favour. But then the biggest thing making me think that Han is Cop is that there's a flipped Godfather
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Ninja'd
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I still feel really good about Neab, and as with DYL what reason does he have to claim to have visited FD if he didn't? Plus he is absolutely confirmed to be inventor, unless we were scum together and I was stupid enough to link us together in that way (I wouldn't be).
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Or rather what reason does he have to claim to visit Han if he did something as scum
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I want to do a four-way massclaim with me, John, God and Death. Sort the entire game out now. Can pass on God for now but I definitely want a three-way claim with John and Death at least.
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