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Lokarin
11/18/18 1:07:52 PM
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And now apparently I'm a (canadian) MAGA woman-hating alt-right nazi white national homophobic islamophobic bigot

Dang.
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Judgmenl
11/18/18 1:12:09 PM
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You shouldn't agree with him on anything, he exists to print money for himself and nothing more.
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Lokarin
11/18/18 1:22:57 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
he exists to print money for himself and nothing more.


How is this different from any capitalist entity?
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Judgmenl
11/18/18 1:27:09 PM
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It isn't. He's a dirty capitalist.
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J_Dawg983
11/18/18 1:30:32 PM
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As long as you virtue signal, all is forgiven.
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Lokarin
11/18/18 1:37:03 PM
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J_Dawg983 posted...
As long as you virtue signal, all is forgiven.


I staunchly believe that murder is bad.
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Blighboy
11/18/18 1:38:18 PM
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Did you clean your room? That's basically the millennial version of the Hitler Youth.
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Kyuubi4269
11/18/18 1:43:03 PM
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Lokarin posted...
And now apparently I'm a (canadian) MAGA woman-hating alt-right nazi white national homophobic islamophobic bigot

Dang.

Suggests something's wrong with your side, doesn't it?
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joemodda
11/18/18 2:38:25 PM
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He's mentioned several times that he's a shameless staunch capitalist
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jramirez23
11/18/18 3:12:58 PM
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On what?
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Lokarin
11/18/18 3:14:24 PM
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jramirez23 posted...
On what?


His fact (for once) based takedown of Cathy Newman...
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Kyuubi4269
11/18/18 3:17:13 PM
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Lokarin posted...
jramirez23 posted...
On what?


His fact (for once) based takedown of Cathy Newman...

So you agree on the one thing and that is multiple things he said?
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GanglyKhan
11/18/18 3:18:50 PM
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I think that everyone could agree with everyone else on this planet about one opinionated thing.
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Lokarin
11/18/18 3:19:33 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
jramirez23 posted...
On what?


His fact (for once) based takedown of Cathy Newman...

So you agree on the one thing and that is multiple things he said?


Sure. That's like if you say you agree with one thing Abe Lincoln said and it was the Emancipation Proclamation.
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Sefrig
11/18/18 3:23:28 PM
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Lokarin posted...
jramirez23 posted...
On what?

His fact (for once) based takedown of Cathy Newman...

i dont know who or what that is or what you agree with
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kind9
11/18/18 3:25:06 PM
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Lokarin posted...
And now apparently I'm a (canadian) MAGA woman-hating alt-right nazi white national homophobic islamophobic bigot

Dang.

Actually I'm pretty sure nobody really cares. People only care if you're really vocal and obnoxious about it. Just take it ease.
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Lokarin
11/18/18 3:25:13 PM
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Sefrig posted...
Lokarin posted...
jramirez23 posted...
On what?

His fact (for once) based takedown of Cathy Newman...

i dont know who or what that is or what you agree with


Don't make me watch the interview again; It's contextual and in the past. If I watch the interview again and itemize every point... like, what kind of OCD person does that?
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Kyuubi4269
11/18/18 3:29:36 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
jramirez23 posted...
On what?


His fact (for once) based takedown of Cathy Newman...

So you agree on the one thing and that is multiple things he said?


Sure. That's like if you say you agree with one thing Abe Lincoln said and it was the Emancipation Proclamation.

No, that would be like agreeing with a single statement he made, the interview is more than a single statement.
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Lokarin
11/18/18 3:33:07 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
jramirez23 posted...
On what?


His fact (for once) based takedown of Cathy Newman...

So you agree on the one thing and that is multiple things he said?


Sure. That's like if you say you agree with one thing Abe Lincoln said and it was the Emancipation Proclamation.

No, that would be like agreeing with a single statement he made, the interview is more than a single statement.


ugh... fine.

I'll rewatch the dang interview and itemize... dang ass lobster people.
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Kyuubi4269
11/18/18 3:35:45 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
jramirez23 posted...
On what?


His fact (for once) based takedown of Cathy Newman...

So you agree on the one thing and that is multiple things he said?


Sure. That's like if you say you agree with one thing Abe Lincoln said and it was the Emancipation Proclamation.

No, that would be like agreeing with a single statement he made, the interview is more than a single statement.


ugh... fine.

I'll rewatch the dang interview and itemize... dang ass lobster people.

Gotta give us that serotonin release, man.
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Lokarin
11/18/18 3:39:05 PM
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Ok, the first point that came out was about compelled speech for transgender pronouns; this is something I agreed with:

The point at hand is that it is polite and you should use the preferred pronoun, but I (and Peterson) are against being mandated to do so.

So "so far" that's one point I agree with.
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joemodda
11/18/18 3:47:25 PM
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How about our right to free speech should triumph other's right to being offended? I thought the point he made on that was a good one
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Lokarin
11/18/18 3:59:08 PM
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bagh, i'll just link Sargon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXJeghw-cRk" data-time="

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Oops_All_Berrys
11/18/18 4:01:38 PM
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Fuck Sargon
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Lokarin
11/18/18 4:14:00 PM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
Fuck Sargon


That's rude, what's the problem?
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Sefrig
11/18/18 4:33:52 PM
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Lokarin posted...
being mandated to do so.

okay well, this is entirely a boogieman i hope you realize. nobody is being mandated
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Lokarin
11/18/18 4:34:13 PM
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Sefrig posted...
Lokarin posted...
being mandated to do so.

okay well, this is entirely a boogieman i hope you realize. nobody is being mandated


Of course not, it was just a talking point in the video.
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Sefrig
11/18/18 4:36:34 PM
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i'm pretty sure a lot of peterson's fans think they're being mandated when using the wrong pronoun is just considered rude
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Lokarin
11/18/18 4:40:01 PM
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Sefrig posted...
i'm pretty sure a lot of peterson's fans think they're being mandated when using the wrong pronoun is just considered rude


It's possible - In that case they're just being silly. But IIRC in the context of the interview it was being proposed that it was being mandated, or that you could get a fine for using the wrong pronouns or something
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Doctor Foxx
11/18/18 5:06:51 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Sefrig posted...
i'm pretty sure a lot of peterson's fans think they're being mandated when using the wrong pronoun is just considered rude


It's possible - In that case they're just being silly. But IIRC in the context of the interview it was being proposed that it was being mandated, or that you could get a fine for using the wrong pronouns or something

That's not for the first time you say something. That would only be after a person established their preferred pronoun and someone insisted on using an incorrect pronoun after being fully aware. Which I have no issue with. It's putting a fine on being a hostile jerk
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Lokarin
11/18/18 5:09:34 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Lokarin posted...
Sefrig posted...
i'm pretty sure a lot of peterson's fans think they're being mandated when using the wrong pronoun is just considered rude


It's possible - In that case they're just being silly. But IIRC in the context of the interview it was being proposed that it was being mandated, or that you could get a fine for using the wrong pronouns or something

That's not for the first time you say something. That would only be after a person established their preferred pronoun and someone insisted on using an incorrect pronoun after being fully aware. Which I have no issue with. It's putting a fine on being a hostile jerk


I like being polite and nice, that's who I am - but that point would be in contradiction of my belief of unlimited free speech.
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dragon504
11/18/18 5:10:29 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Lokarin posted...
Sefrig posted...
i'm pretty sure a lot of peterson's fans think they're being mandated when using the wrong pronoun is just considered rude


It's possible - In that case they're just being silly. But IIRC in the context of the interview it was being proposed that it was being mandated, or that you could get a fine for using the wrong pronouns or something

That's not for the first time you say something. That would only be after a person established their preferred pronoun and someone insisted on using an incorrect pronoun after being fully aware. Which I have no issue with. It's putting a fine on being a hostile jerk


I completely agree with Peterson on this point. Speech should be protected, whether or not you are, or someone just thinks you're being a jerk.
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Hop103
11/18/18 5:11:55 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
You shouldn't agree with him on anything, he exists to print money for himself and nothing more.


Plenty of people are like this. If only the NPCs knew this fact instead of thinking that he's an alt-right monster, they would just ignore him and they would be happier as a result.
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Judgmenl
11/18/18 5:16:48 PM
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Lokarin posted...
bagh, i'll just link Sargon.


You do know that Sargon is the same type of person right? He makes around $200k/yr off of his Youtube Channel. He is not your friend.

Hop103 posted...
Plenty of people are like this. If only the NPCs knew this fact instead of thinking that he's an alt-right monster, they would just ignore him and they would be happier as a result.


People are too oblivious to realize people fake a persona to make money.
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Lokarin
11/18/18 5:21:34 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
You do know that Sargon is the same type of person right? He makes around $200k/yr off of his Youtube Channel. He is not your friend.


Wait, are you anti-money? What's your point otherwise?
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Judgmenl
11/18/18 5:23:05 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Wait, are you anti-money? What's your point otherwise?


the media is not your friend!
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Lokarin
11/18/18 5:26:40 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Lokarin posted...
Wait, are you anti-money? What's your point otherwise?


the media is not your friend!


Did you know that some people can consume a piece of media and both agree with parts and disagree with parts and come up with rational conclusions incorporating ideas from multiple sources?
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Kyuubi4269
11/18/18 5:30:52 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Lokarin posted...
Sefrig posted...
i'm pretty sure a lot of peterson's fans think they're being mandated when using the wrong pronoun is just considered rude


It's possible - In that case they're just being silly. But IIRC in the context of the interview it was being proposed that it was being mandated, or that you could get a fine for using the wrong pronouns or something

That's not for the first time you say something. That would only be after a person established their preferred pronoun and someone insisted on using an incorrect pronoun after being fully aware. Which I have no issue with. It's putting a fine on being a hostile jerk

Insisting I pander to you, a complete stranger, is pretty jerkish behaviour, and rather casts the implication that you feel you should have dominion over me.

I believe you are insisting on an incorrect pronoun going against centuries of established etymology and common parlance, you are being a hostile jerk but trying to legally enforce your zealotry.
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ASlaveObeys
11/18/18 5:34:16 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Ok, the first point that came out was about compelled speech for transgender pronouns; this is something I agreed with:

The point at hand is that it is polite and you should use the preferred pronoun, but I (and Peterson) are against being mandated to do so.

So "so far" that's one point I agree with.

To go even further with this point, if there is legal action against using the wrong pronoun there needs to be an established way to KNOW someone's pronoun and an established list of what pronouns are legal/illegal.

You can't just say anyone can identify as anything, and make it potentially illegal to even ask what someone wants to be identified as. How does a person face a legal penalty for using the wrong pronoun while also not having any established rules to how and why that person should use whatever pronoun.

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Dikitain
11/18/18 5:53:51 PM
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I mean you are bound to agree with someone on something, so getting annoyed by it is kind of pointless. I mean if Hitler said "I think you shouldn't punch babies" are you going to say "Yes, I agree" or "NO, I THINK WE SHOULD PUNCH EVERY BABY THAT ENTERS OUR VIEW!!!" out of spite?
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Lokarin
11/18/18 5:55:22 PM
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Dikitain posted...
I mean you are bound to agree with someone on something, so getting annoyed by it is kind of pointless. I mean if Hitler said "I think you shouldn't punch babies" are you going to say "Yes, I agree" or "NO, I THINK WE SHOULD PUNCH EVERY BABY THAT ENTERS OUT VIEW!!!"


Umm... this is 2018, here's someone literally punching a baby because NAZIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFh08JEKDYk" data-time="

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Blighboy
11/18/18 6:06:02 PM
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Not all Nazis are Hitler and not all Hitlers are Nazis.
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OhhhJa
11/18/18 6:08:28 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
It's putting a fine on being a hostile jerk

And you seriously believe that's ok? I dont even wanna think about how making that a thing could devolve into something even worse
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Muscles
11/18/18 6:10:17 PM
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What's wrong with Jordan Peterson? I don't think I've ever heard him say anything bad but people act like he's some sort of monster it seems
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Lokarin
11/18/18 6:16:00 PM
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Muscles posted...
What's wrong with Jordan Peterson? I don't think I've ever heard him say anything bad but people act like he's some sort of monster it seems


I don't really follow his new stuff, but he uses a lot of psuedoscience and quackery when making his own points. He's good at arguing facts when it suits him, but when it doesn't he's not against just making stuff up.

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Wait... that sounds like me
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JanwayDaahl
11/18/18 6:20:20 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Muscles posted...
What's wrong with Jordan Peterson? I don't think I've ever heard him say anything bad but people act like he's some sort of monster it seems


I don't really follow his new stuff, but he uses a lot of psuedoscience and quackery when making his own points. He's good at arguing facts when it suits him, but when it doesn't he's not against just making stuff up.

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Wait... that sounds like me


Do you have specific examples of the "pseudoscience" you claim that he uses?
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Muscles
11/18/18 6:20:31 PM
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Lokarin = Jordan Peterson's son?
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Lokarin
11/18/18 6:24:01 PM
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JanwayDaahl posted...
Do you have specific examples of the "pseudoscience" you claim that he uses?


Not on this case, since in this example I'm quoting my cousin's opinion on Jordon Peterson... like I said, I don't follow JP so all I get of him is from Sargon/Drunken Peasants/Amazing Atheist and such
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Judgmenl
11/18/18 6:35:55 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Dikitain posted...
I mean you are bound to agree with someone on something, so getting annoyed by it is kind of pointless. I mean if Hitler said "I think you shouldn't punch babies" are you going to say "Yes, I agree" or "NO, I THINK WE SHOULD PUNCH EVERY BABY THAT ENTERS OUT VIEW!!!"


Umm... this is 2018, here's someone literally punching a baby because NAZIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFh08JEKDYk" data-time="


You do know these stupud groups make up less than a percent of the population right? That none of this happens outside of a few specific groups right?

People are just trying to live their lives but you have social media trying to muddy it all up and "protesters" and "activists" shitting all over the place after the Occupy Movement was a success as being disruptive.

Also Richard Spencer is a fucking moron and irrelevant.
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Lokarin
11/18/18 6:49:30 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
You do know


Ya, was just being funny... in what context is a grown adult a literal baby.
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