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UnfairRepresent
11/18/18 7:35:28 PM
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One police chief in Washington State wants to make his city a "sanctuary" for gun owners.

Republic Police Department Chief Loren Culp is looking to shield his city from a new state law that imposes more strict limitations on firearms.

Initiative 1639 was recently approved in Washington and prevents individuals under the age of 21 from buying semiautomatic weapons.

The law also creates the potential for someone to be criminally prosecuted if he or she stores a gun where a "prohibited" person gains access to it.

Loren said on Sunday that he "cannot and will not" enforce the law, and that I-1639 almost eliminates the ability for individuals under the age of 21 to exercise their constitutional rights.

"It goes against the oath of my office," he said

He said Sunday that most of the counties across his state denied the I-1639 law, but that high-population areas like Seattle passed it.

"I have tremendous support of my community for doing this," he said.

According to Seattle PI, the National Rifle Association has filed a lawsuit challenging the new law.


Full Article: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/11/18/washington-state-police-chief-pushes-back-new-gun-restrictions
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DarkTransient
11/18/18 7:36:30 PM
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Imagine how much good the police could do by taking this attitude with cannabis.
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VipaGTS
11/18/18 7:37:24 PM
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i don't think that's his decision to make...
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glitteringfairy
11/18/18 7:40:31 PM
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Hell yea
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UnfairRepresent
11/18/18 7:40:47 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Imagine how much good the police could do by taking this attitude with cannabis.

Some cops already do
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Duncanwii
11/18/18 7:41:31 PM
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Fire him. Remove all benefits.
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Solar_Crimson
11/18/18 7:43:19 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Hell yea

Yeah, good for the police to not enforce the law.
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Annihilated
11/18/18 7:43:53 PM
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Fair, next.
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glitteringfairy
11/18/18 7:44:16 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hell yea

Yeah, good for the police to not enforce the law.

Other police in illegal alien sanctuarys don't enforce the law.
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Malcrasternus
11/18/18 7:48:19 PM
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As my topic pointed out there was only one good thing about the law that was overshadowed by useless and draconic restrictions.

Restrictions that only inconvenience older people with money but make it difficult or outright impossible for young lower/mid class citizens. Which, will lead to even more undocumented gun purchases.

Also hearing that it'll require access to medical health records as part of the enhanced background check they proposed, though if that's true, might be a HIPAA violation.
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Malcrasternus
11/18/18 7:49:38 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hell yea

Yeah, good for the police to not enforce the law.


Unjust laws deserve to be challenged.
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VipaGTS
11/18/18 7:49:50 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hell yea

Yeah, good for the police to not enforce the law.

Other police in illegal alien sanctuarys don't enforce the law.

and do you think that's a bad thing?
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shiby with it
11/18/18 7:50:22 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
i don't think that's his decision to make...

No, but it could be the Sheriff's. They swear on and enforce the Constitution, which would supercede any unconsitutional gun control law Congress or the like would put into place.
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glitteringfairy
11/18/18 7:52:02 PM
#14:


VipaGTS posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hell yea

Yeah, good for the police to not enforce the law.

Other police in illegal alien sanctuarys don't enforce the law.

and do you think that's a bad thing?

Lol this guy.

"Not enforcing gun laws is bad!"

"Not enforcing immigration laws is good!"

Definition of hypocrisy. At least I'm honest about mine.
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VipaGTS
11/18/18 7:52:47 PM
#15:


glitteringfairy posted...
VipaGTS posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hell yea

Yeah, good for the police to not enforce the law.

Other police in illegal alien sanctuarys don't enforce the law.

and do you think that's a bad thing?

Lol this guy.

"Not enforcing gun laws is bad!"

"Not enforcing immigration laws is good!"

Definition of hypocrisy. At least I'm honest about mine.

where did i say not enforcing immigration laws is good?
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FLUFFYGERM
11/18/18 7:53:49 PM
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God bless
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Tmaster148
11/18/18 7:58:41 PM
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While the age thing is definitely is highly unnecessary. I don't actually see how often he actually deals with gun control on his end. Most of this stuff will be handled by sellers.

Plus as far as the article puts it, the restriction is only on someone under the age of 21 buying a gun. Nothing about them owning one. So I don't see a situation where he would be arresting an 18 year old having a gun in the first place.

The law also creates the potential for someone to be criminally prosecuted if he or she stores a gun where a "prohibited" person gains access to it.


Also this is 100% legit and we should be doing more to punish those who leave their guns supervised and next thing their children shoots themselves or a friend or maybe their school.

Seems like an empty statement he won't actually have much say in the matter.
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Tyranthraxus
11/18/18 7:59:49 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Fire him. Remove all benefits.

You can't just fire a police chief.
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VipaGTS
11/18/18 8:02:11 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Also this is 100% legit and we should be doing more to punish those who leave their guns supervised and next thing their children shoots themselves or a friend or maybe their school.

Someone just posted an article yesterday of a toddler who shot themselves with a gun they found under the father's pillow...a loaded, ready to fire gun under a pillow where a toddler randomly found it and killed themselves...But for some reason, suggesting that people who are irresponsible with their weapons like that face punishment for their negligence is met with anger and push back...Why? Why are people for gun rights against things like that? why do they want it to be a free for all 100%? I just don't get it...
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
11/18/18 8:04:25 PM
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So soldiers who have fought im war cant own a gun at 18,19, or 20 years old after using possibly many rifles and sidearms defending the USA ? Yeah this makes sense NOT.

Glad some honorable people will refuse to support and enforce this bullshit law.
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Doom_Art
11/18/18 8:15:01 PM
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Interesting seeing those on the right ITT doubling down on the behavior that lost them the House
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VectorChaos
11/18/18 8:21:37 PM
#22:


VipaGTS posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Also this is 100% legit and we should be doing more to punish those who leave their guns supervised and next thing their children shoots themselves or a friend or maybe their school.

Someone just posted an article yesterday of a toddler who shot themselves with a gun they found under the father's pillow...a loaded, ready to fire gun under a pillow where a toddler randomly found it and killed themselves...But for some reason, suggesting that people who are irresponsible with their weapons like that face punishment for their negligence is met with anger and push back...Why? Why are people for gun rights against things like that? why do they want it to be a free for all 100%? I just don't get it...


The criticism against this is that 'adequate security' is entirely undefined

But you probably knew that, hence the appeal to emotion.
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creativerealms
11/18/18 8:24:14 PM
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A police chief should know that gun control =/= removing rights from gun owners. He should understand what laws mean.
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creativerealms
11/18/18 8:26:40 PM
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Making 21 the age limit for gun ownership is fair. Just like 16 is a fair limit for driving and 21 a fair limit for driving. Our defend amendment is talks about guns being well regulated.
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spikethedevil
11/18/18 8:33:07 PM
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America in being backwards shocker.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/18/18 8:52:20 PM
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Why do people in other countries insist on blabbering against American rights?
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Tmaster148
11/18/18 9:12:46 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Why do people in other countries insist on blabbering against American rights?


If this is the stance you are going to take does this mean you are going to shut up about Venezuela or Europe?
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Dragonblade01
11/18/18 9:14:22 PM
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And that's a perfect example of why proper gun control in this country will be very, very difficult.
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AlephZero
11/18/18 9:15:11 PM
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"we're not going to enforce immigration laws" - sweet man

"we're not going to enforce gun laws" - wft do your jobs pigs
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Ray_Dorset
11/18/18 9:16:28 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Why do people in other countries insist on blabbering against American rights?


Come on now proudclad
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
11/18/18 9:17:14 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
And that's a perfect example of why proper gun control in this country will be very, very difficult.


Draconic and unconstitutional gun control needs to be shut down hard.
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monkmith
11/18/18 9:19:11 PM
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ah, what a great man, setting up his city as bait for the next mass shooter!
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Doom_Art
11/18/18 9:23:05 PM
#33:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Draconic and unconstitutional gun control needs to be shut down hard.

Everything that isn't the complete and total proliferation of firearms is derided by pro-2A people and gun nuts as "draconian" though
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
11/18/18 9:27:29 PM
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How about enforcing the current laws before the anti gun people start clamering for new laws ?, the laws we have now can work and be effective if they are actually put into action.
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glitteringfairy
11/18/18 9:31:34 PM
#35:


VipaGTS posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
VipaGTS posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hell yea

Yeah, good for the police to not enforce the law.

Other police in illegal alien sanctuarys don't enforce the law.

and do you think that's a bad thing?

Lol this guy.

"Not enforcing gun laws is bad!"

"Not enforcing immigration laws is good!"

Definition of hypocrisy. At least I'm honest about mine.

where did i say not enforcing immigration laws is good?

"and do you think that's a bad thing?"
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Doom_Art
11/18/18 9:35:16 PM
#36:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
How about enforcing the current laws before the anti gun people start clamering for new laws ?, the laws we have now can work and be effective if they are actually put into action.

How about cops focus on doing their jobs and not selectively interpreting/enforcing laws?

Leave that sort of thing up to the judiciary
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VipaGTS
11/18/18 9:35:27 PM
#37:


glitteringfairy posted...
"and do you think that's a bad thing?"


me asking you your opinion of something =/= me giving you my opinion of something. Shit man you guys at least used to put up a challenge. You're not even trying anymore.
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Crazyman93
11/18/18 9:50:00 PM
#38:


Doom_Art posted...
Leave that sort of thing up to the judiciary

When a Sheriff does it, that IS doing their job since a County Sheriff is the enforcement arm of the courts.
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Malcrasternus
11/18/18 9:50:57 PM
#39:


monkmith posted...
ah, what a great man, setting up his city as bait for the next mass shooter!


Yes, as we all know mass shootings have historically happened in places where the public is allowed to be armed.
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cmiller4642
11/18/18 9:51:15 PM
#40:


Fire his ass
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glitteringfairy
11/18/18 9:51:24 PM
#41:


VipaGTS posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
"and do you think that's a bad thing?"


me asking you your opinion of something =/= me giving you my opinion of something. Shit man you guys at least used to put up a challenge. You're not even trying anymore.

Why are you pretending that you don't support sanctuary cities?
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VipaGTS
11/18/18 9:53:06 PM
#42:


Shit man you guys at least used to put up a challenge. You're not even trying anymore.
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glitteringfairy
11/18/18 9:56:32 PM
#43:


VipaGTS, do you or do you not support sanctuary cities?
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Doom_Art
11/18/18 9:57:36 PM
#44:


@glitteringfairy posted...
VipaGTS, do you or do you not support sanctuary cities?

wait do you?
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VipaGTS
11/18/18 9:57:46 PM
#45:


No. I don't support cops not following or enforcing the laws. now do you care to answer the question i asked you first (well i guess not first since you went through this whole song and dance for some reason)?
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Axiom
11/18/18 10:12:41 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
@glitteringfairy posted...
VipaGTS, do you or do you not support sanctuary cities?

wait do you?

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FLUFFYGERM
11/18/18 10:13:47 PM
#47:


Doom_Art posted...
@glitteringfairy posted...
VipaGTS, do you or do you not support sanctuary cities?

wait do you?


Wait, am I Proudclad?
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monkmith
11/18/18 11:34:22 PM
#48:


Malcrasternus posted...
monkmith posted...
ah, what a great man, setting up his city as bait for the next mass shooter!


Yes, as we all know mass shootings have historically happened in places where the public is allowed to be armed.

yeah man, because whenever anyone ever enters a room i immediately draw on them to make sure they dont shoot me first!
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OctilIery
11/18/18 11:35:29 PM
#49:


glitteringfairy posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hell yea

Yeah, good for the police to not enforce the law.

Other police in illegal alien sanctuarys don't enforce the law.

Yes, actually, they do. There is no law requiring them to cooperate with ICE.
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Dark_Spiret
11/18/18 11:36:27 PM
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well, good. its a terribly written bill that will serve to do nothing but hurt gun owners. too bad more cops dont share that mentality.
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