Current Events > Conservative Teacher is FIRED for being ANTI-TRANSGENDER and STUDENTS are MAD!!

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47 y/o Christian Kook, Peter Vlaming, a French Teacher from Virginia was FIRED after he refused to use a transgender student's new pronoun's and thus, he was given the boot for INSUBORDINATION!!

The West Point School Board voted unanimously to dismiss him after he told superiors that his Christian faith prevented him from using male pronouns for a student who informed the school of his transition this summer.

He offered to use the boy's name and to avoid feminine pronouns but his attorney, Shawn Voyles said the school was willing to accept his compromise.

The school said his plan would discriminate against the boy and now he said the school discriminated against his religious beliefs!!

He was on paid leave on Halloween leading up to the hearing and his students have WALKED OUT in PROTEST over the firing!!

He taught the student, who was a girl, during their 9th grade year last year but after his transition, he refuses to acknowledge that they are now male using masculine pronouns that made the student now feel uncomfortable and singled out.

Principal Jonathan Hochman said that Vlaming told him that he "liked" and "missed" the FEMALE VERSION of the student.

Peter also said that he cannot fathom seeing a girl turn into a boy as it is not "biologically possible" and he refuses to accept that despite being "socially acceptable" nowadays.

The superintendent, Laura Abel said this discrimination leadsd to a hostile learning environment and students felt disrespected and the non discrimination policies were updated a year ago to protect gender identity

52 y/o parent, Jennifer Haynes supports Peter and said "If there's no policy in place, how can they just let him go?"

Mera Babineaux is in support of the student and is the founder of Anti-Bullying and Discrimination who said no matter what sense of self or identity a child may have, public schools must remain a bastion of secular education

Peter's lawyer says his rights are being violated even as a government employee that isn't allowing him to be free to be compelled to speak something that violates his conscience

Peter said "My religious faith dictates that i am to love and respect everyone whether i agree with them or not because we are all made in God's image. I represente the state in my r ole as a public school teacher and therefore speak with a certain authority. That authority is not to be used to promote any one specific worldview and i don't. However we are today because a specific worldview is being imposed upon me."

Peter also claims his job is in peril for having a view that the MAJORITY is held for most of human history and said that most people are too afraid to speak up against accepting transgender people where most are deep down AGAINST IT!!

A small group of conservative students walked out in support of him and yelled "VLAMING" and protest over his firing and demand he get his job back.

He is now considering a legal appeal and if his 1st Amendment rights are being violated

Do you have a problem with addressing Transgender People by their preferred identity?

Peter - Voldemort

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Jonathan - Principal

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Conservative Kids -

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Yeah, fuck him
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"My Christian faith" lmao.
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PleaseClap posted...

Yeah, fuck him

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Full Throttle posted...

his Christian faith prevented him from using male pronouns

yeah, that's not how Christian faith works sorry
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Good on that school for doing the right thing.
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he got fired for ranting at the school board, not for the gender pronoun thing. they dont appreciate a teacher openly ranting during a public meeting...
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It's not that hard to not be an asshole.

He doesn't look friendly and doesn't look like he has any empathy
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Full Throttle posted...

Peter also said that he cannot fathom seeing a girl turn into a boy as it is not "biologically possible" and he refuses to accept that despite being "socially acceptable" nowadays.

But it isnt biologically possible?

looks like a tie
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So he got fired for being a bigoted pos. Fair, next.

What posts 2,3,4,6,9 and 12 said.
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Just say the damn pronouns holy shit
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now NO is in the lead!
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monkmith posted...

he got fired for ranting at the school board, not for the gender pronoun thing. they dont appreciate a teacher openly ranting during a public meeting...

This, the school board was fine with him simply using the student's name. He couldn't keep his damn mouth shut about it though.
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He offered to use the boy's name and to avoid feminine pronouns

so whats the issue?
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ModLogic posted...

He offered to use the boy's name and to avoid feminine pronouns

so whats the issue?

He refused to refer to the boy by his gender.

I compromise at calling people he/she. I'm too old to learn anything else
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Full Throttle posted...

Peter also said that he cannot fathom seeing a girl turn into a boy as it is not "biologically possible" and he refuses to accept that despite being "socially acceptable" nowadays.

Is he wrong here?
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ModLogic posted...

He offered to use the boy's name and to avoid feminine pronouns

so whats the issue?

he went on a tirade in public during a school board meeting.
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OctilIery posted...

ModLogic posted...

He offered to use the boy's name and to avoid feminine pronouns

so whats the issue?

He refused to refer to the boy by his gender.

seems like a reasonable compromise to just use the kid's name
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MakoReizei posted...

Full Throttle posted...

Peter also said that he cannot fathom seeing a girl turn into a boy as it is not "biologically possible" and he refuses to accept that despite being "socially acceptable" nowadays.

Is he wrong here?

Shhh. Facts and reality are now hate speech in this world now that we let the inmates run the asylum.
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MakoReizei posted...

Full Throttle posted...

Peter also said that he cannot fathom seeing a girl turn into a boy as it is not "biologically possible" and he refuses to accept that despite being "socially acceptable" nowadays.

Is he wrong here?

Yes, morally.
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Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.
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ModLogic posted...

OctilIery posted...

ModLogic posted...

He offered to use the boy's name and to avoid feminine pronouns

so whats the issue?

He refused to refer to the boy by his gender.

seems like a reasonable compromise to just use the kid's name

There is no compromise here. Just call him by his gender.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.

They didn't break any laws so not likely.

OctilIery posted...

ModLogic posted...

OctilIery posted...

ModLogic posted...

He offered to use the boy's name and to avoid feminine pronouns

so whats the issue?

He refused to refer to the boy by his gender.

seems like a reasonable compromise to just use the kid's name

There is no compromise here. Just call him by his gender.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.

They didn't break any laws so not likely.

kid in my class wanted to be called sir tots cos he identified as a super hero. do you humor him?
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ModLogic posted...

OctilIery posted...

ModLogic posted...

OctilIery posted...

ModLogic posted...

He offered to use the boy's name and to avoid feminine pronouns

so whats the issue?

He refused to refer to the boy by his gender.

seems like a reasonable compromise to just use the kid's name

There is no compromise here. Just call him by his gender.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.

They didn't break any laws so not likely.

kid in my class wanted to be called sir tots cos he identified as a super hero. do you humor him?

First off, yes, why not, it causes no harm and makes him happy.

Second off, that isn't comparable at all to transgenderism no matter how you try and twist the facts.

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So the teacher did nothing wrong.
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OctilIery posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.

They didn't break any laws so not likely.

A government employee being prohibited from freedom of speech and religion absolutely violates not just the law, but the constitution.

That's why you deal with people like this by finding some unrelated technicality to get them on.
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DarkTransient posted...

A government employee being prohibited from freedom of speech and religion absolutely violates not just the law, but the constitution.

Good thing he's being prohibited from neither.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

A government employee being prohibited from freedom of speech and religion absolutely violates not just the law, but the constitution.

Good thing he's being prohibited from neither.

He's being fired over exercising those rights. That absolutely qualifies, and if he does take legal action, he's got a 100% guaranteed win, especially now that the Supreme Court is no longer left-biased and willing to ignore the constitution when it suits their agenda.
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DezDroppedFreak posted...

Just say the damn pronouns holy shit

You say it. I'm not doing it.
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DarkTransient posted...

OctilIery posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.

They didn't break any laws so not likely.

A government employee being prohibited from freedom of speech and religion absolutely violates not just the law, but the constitution.

That's why you deal with people like this by finding some unrelated technicality to get them on.

Government employees are agents of the state, so therefore they have a greater onus on respecting the 1st amendment rights of others over themselves, because they are the government. This teacher refusing to accept the free expression of his student is far more tyrannical than the teacher being asked to stop going out of his way to be an asshole.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

DarkTransient posted...

OctilIery posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.

They didn't break any laws so not likely.

A government employee being prohibited from freedom of speech and religion absolutely violates not just the law, but the constitution.

That's why you deal with people like this by finding some unrelated technicality to get them on.

Government employees are agents of the state, so therefore they have a greater onus on respecting the 1st amendment rights of others over themselves, because they are the government. This teacher refusing to accept the free expression of his student is far more tyrannical than the teacher being asked to stop going out of his way to be an asshole.

Show me where he stopped the kid from expressing himself, rather than simply not going along with it. The first amendment says the government can't prohibit speech; not that they're required to agree with it.
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DarkTransient posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

DarkTransient posted...

OctilIery posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.

They didn't break any laws so not likely.

A government employee being prohibited from freedom of speech and religion absolutely violates not just the law, but the constitution.

That's why you deal with people like this by finding some unrelated technicality to get them on.

Government employees are agents of the state, so therefore they have a greater onus on respecting the 1st amendment rights of others over themselves, because they are the government. This teacher refusing to accept the free expression of his student is far more tyrannical than the teacher being asked to stop going out of his way to be an asshole.

Show me where he stopped the kid from expressing himself, rather than simply not going along with it.

That last bit is where the issue is. The student shouldn't have to compromise with the government over respecting his 1st amendment right.
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DarkTransient posted...

He's being fired over exercising those rights.

Objectively wrong. He's being fired for imposing his religious views on a student, which he absolutely has no right to do.
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The 1st amendment doesn't cover just speech. It also covers expression.
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does no one else think it's crazy that 15 year old is allowed to change genders, and this man lost his job for not meeting a 15 year olds demands?

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A_Good_Boy posted...

DarkTransient posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

DarkTransient posted...

OctilIery posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Kid should've just gotten moved to a different class. Now the school is going to be ravaged in a law suit.

They didn't break any laws so not likely.

A government employee being prohibited from freedom of speech and religion absolutely violates not just the law, but the constitution.

That's why you deal with people like this by finding some unrelated technicality to get them on.

Government employees are agents of the state, so therefore they have a greater onus on respecting the 1st amendment rights of others over themselves, because they are the government. This teacher refusing to accept the free expression of his student is far more tyrannical than the teacher being asked to stop going out of his way to be an asshole.

Show me where he stopped the kid from expressing himself, rather than simply not going along with it.

That last bit is where the issue is. The student shouldn't have to compromise with the government over respecting his 1st amendment right.

Once again, freedom to express himself does not equate to a requirement for anyone else to go along with it; only for them to not prevent him from doing so himself.

This teacher didn't say "You can't use male pronouns / present as male / etc". Just that he himself would not play along with it.

And to be clear, I'm not saying the teacher was in the right. Just that legally, this won't stand up. Which is why they should've found an unrelated thing to get him over.
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OctilIery posted...

So he got fired for being a bigoted pos. Fair, next.

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DarkTransient posted...

freedom to express himself

"Freedom to express himself" does not cover how teachers refer to students.
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Anyone who have a problem with addressing transgender people by their preferred pronouns are just assholes.
And he is a typical bigot for covering it with his Christian faith, as usual. Deserved to be fired

This professor and his supporters are the type to get offended if you say "Happy Holidays".
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OctilIery posted...

that isn't comparable at all

this is based off your experience as a psychiatrist?
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The true test here is when someone is fired for refusing to use pronouns entirely.

Thanks progressives for pushing insanity on our youth
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