Board 8 > Character Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10

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ZeldaTPLink 12/12/18 3:03:52 PM #302:	If Mario wins this we are ripe for a crew curse though. Typical of Mario. Riding on a crew curse to win against Zelda. What a villain. <cite>ZeldaTPLink posted [p:914010592] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>If Mario wins this we are ripe for a crew curse though. Typical of Mario. Riding on a crew curse to win against Zelda. What a villain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/12/18 4:02:41 PM #303:	Lopen's Unofficial Analysisx2 Mario v Zelda I think both of these two have arguments to go bigger on the rematch. Zelda has Mario being slimy against Samus (and if he gets here, Cloud as well) in her corner, and also the fact that she won this last time Mario on the other hand has people not wanting to see that rematch again, not wanting an all Zelda grand final, and Zelda enthusiasm probably being much lower now cause of her whooping. I'm honestly not sure which wins out but my feeling is that contest enthusiasts (who are the only ones who these factors really apply to) probably support Mario overall from these events and due to the fact we haven't seen Mario/Link yet, as they are probably aren't looking at the results so closely as to fully grasp robberies, so he can slime his way through another one. Mario with 50.04% Cloud v Zelda Simpler match to analyze. Cloud has all the positives of Mario, with none of the slime. I also think that a Zelda coming off a beating from Link is indirectly weaker than Mario, straight up. Cloud Strife with 54.89% --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:914013801] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Lopen's Unofficial Analysisx2 Mario v Zelda I think both of these two have arguments to go bigger on the rematch. Zelda has Mario being slimy against Samus (and if he gets here, Cloud as well) in her corner, and also the fact that she won this last time Mario on the other hand has people not wanting to see that rematch again, not wanting an all Zelda grand final, and Zelda enthusiasm probably being much lower now cause of her whooping. I'm honestly not sure which wins out but my feeling is that contest enthusiasts (who are the only ones who these factors really apply to) probably support Mario overall from these events and due to the fact we haven't seen Mario/Link yet, as they are probably aren't looking at the results so closely as to fully grasp robberies, so he can slime his way through another one. Mario with 50.04% Cloud v Zelda Simpler match to analyze. Cloud has all the positives of Mario, with none of the slime. I also think that a Zelda coming off a beating from Link is indirectly weaker than Mario, straight up. Cloud Strife with 54.89%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haste_2 12/12/18 4:12:59 PM #304:	Zelda may have a bandwagon, but if Mario wins, that means his two most recent wins were really close. And Zelda just finished getting crushed by Link, too. I feel that Mario is the more likely character to get a bandwagon for today's match. Not to mention he'll likely benefit from having lost a close match against Zelda previously. Last of all, some voters will probably vote for Mario to avoid the Link/Zelda repeat final. I suppose Mario could get a few anti-votes for his shenanigans/cheating/clutch/stuffing, though. But watch Zelda beat Mario, anyway. (though it will more likely be Zelda vs. Cloud) --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." <cite>Haste_2 posted [p:914014400] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Zelda may have a bandwagon, but if Mario wins, that means his two most recent wins were really close. And Zelda just finished getting crushed by Link, too. I feel that Mario is the more likely character to get a bandwagon for today's match. Not to mention he'll likely benefit from having lost a close match against Zelda previously. Last of all, some voters will probably vote for Mario to avoid the Link/Zelda repeat final. I suppose Mario could get a few anti-votes for his shenanigans/cheating/clutch/stuffing, though. But watch Zelda beat Mario, anyway. (though it will more likely be Zelda vs. Cloud)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/12/18 5:55:50 PM #305:	https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/zelda-f-ulti-9.png https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/zelda-f-boss-9.png RIP people with high Zelda percentages --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:914019889] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/zelda-f-ulti-9.png https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/zelda-f-boss-9.png RIP people with high Zelda percentages</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 12/12/18 5:56:36 PM #306:	wow spoilers --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:914019919] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>wow spoilers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 12/12/18 6:15:41 PM #307:	looks like Clouds actually going to pull this off, barring any legitimate shenanigans --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:914020822] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>looks like Clouds actually going to pull this off, barring any legitimate shenanigans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 12/12/18 6:55:39 PM #308:	I'm actually flabbergasted. Square beating Nintendo in a close match? Cloud over freaking Mario?! Get in! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCXs-Gpld_8" data-time=" --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:914022819] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>I'm actually flabbergasted. Square beating Nintendo in a close match? Cloud over freaking Mario?! Get in! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCXs-Gpld_8" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/12/18 6:58:27 PM #309:	time for the +156 update --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:914022964] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>time for the +156 update</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Janus5k 12/12/18 6:59:00 PM #310:	n_n --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." <cite>Janus5k posted [p:914022982] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>n_n</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 12/12/18 6:59:06 PM #311:	LeonhartFour posted... time for the +156 update Turns out the fine print says CJayC's vote counts for 160 votes. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:914022989] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote>time for the +156 update</quote> Turns out the fine print says CJayC's vote counts for 160 votes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 12/12/18 6:59:31 PM #312:	LeonhartFour posted... time for the +156 update or the Allen topic "Removed 200 stuffed votes from Cloud" --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:914023018] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote>time for the +156 update</quote> or the Allen topic "Removed 200 stuffed votes from Cloud"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/12/18 7:00:54 PM #313:	uh Cloud? --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:914023090] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>uh Cloud?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/12/18 7:01:22 PM #314:	Cloud moseying all over Zelda early on --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:914023116] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Cloud moseying all over Zelda early on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 12/12/18 7:02:59 PM #315:	LeonhartFour posted... uh Cloud? Cloud is the new board vote king, did you forget? Zelda will shred him after the freeze. (tbqh I'd believe Cloud was being rallied at the end there with some of those spikes and this could be spillover) --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:914023203] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote>uh Cloud?</quote> Cloud is the new board vote king, did you forget? Zelda will shred him after the freeze. (tbqh I'd believe Cloud was being rallied at the end there with some of those spikes and this could be spillover)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/12/18 7:03:03 PM #316:	LeonhartFour posted... uh Cloud? --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:914023208] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote>uh Cloud?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 12/12/18 7:03:47 PM #317:	Mario has finally been brought to justice --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:914023241] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Mario has finally been brought to justice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 12/12/18 7:03:50 PM #318:	oh wow the shredding started while i wrote that post zelda no mercy --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:914023243] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>oh wow the shredding started while i wrote that post zelda no mercy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Janus5k 12/12/18 7:04:12 PM #319:	Guess Cloud got a Hero Boost during the board vote for killing Mario --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." <cite>Janus5k posted [p:914023262] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Guess Cloud got a Hero Boost during the board vote for killing Mario</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 12/12/18 7:10:23 PM #320:	these results make so little sense man --- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:914023571] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>these results make so little sense man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 12/12/18 7:13:38 PM #321:	Damn, I was gonna say Zelda would jump to 53% at the freeze when I was writing that earlier post. Should have done so so I could crow now! >_> but yeah cloud new board vote king called it IDK, it makes sense to me. The board has a number of reasons to favor Cloud. He just brought Mario to justice, He wouldn't be a rematch with Link like Zelda would (well he would but not a finals rematch), he's the only not-LoZ character left... And if you think he had some rallying going on from the Mario match the spillover dropping off after the match changed would also help explain it a bit but that part may not be a thing so you cna take it or leave it. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:914023729] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Damn, I was gonna say Zelda would jump to 53% at the freeze when I was writing that earlier post. Should have done so so I could crow now! >_> but yeah cloud new board vote king called it IDK, it makes sense to me. The board has a number of reasons to favor Cloud. He just brought Mario to justice, He wouldn't be a rematch with Link like Zelda would (well he would but not a finals rematch), he's the only not-LoZ character left... And if you think he had some rallying going on from the Mario match the spillover dropping off after the match changed would also help explain it a bit but that part may not be a thing so you cna take it or leave it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/12/18 7:15:34 PM #322:	Cloud with the stall --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:914023828] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Cloud with the stall</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 12/12/18 7:18:08 PM #323:	Poor Link. With another close match today, and no one looking like they have any chance of beating him, how is he supposed to summon up any excitement for tomorrow? Winning these contests used to be fun, but now it seems to be either crushing everyone with over 60% or getting demolished by an outside rally. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:914023955] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Poor Link. With another close match today, and no one looking like they have any chance of beating him, how is he supposed to summon up any excitement for tomorrow? Winning these contests used to be fun, but now it seems to be either crushing everyone with over 60% or getting demolished by an outside rally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Averia 12/12/18 7:20:15 PM #324:	red sox 777 posted... Poor Link. With another close match today, and no one looking like they have any chance of beating him, how is he supposed to summon up any excitement for tomorrow? Winning these contests used to be fun, but now it seems to be either crushing everyone with over 60% or getting demolished by an outside rally. Link will never get a competitive match again. Either crushing victory, overwhelming rally or contest designed to make him lose (and at this point I'm only picking Cloud if it's something like Link vs Ganon vs Zelda vs Cloud). <cite>Averia posted [p:914024070] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Poor Link. With another close match today, and no one looking like they have any chance of beating him, how is he supposed to summon up any excitement for tomorrow? Winning these contests used to be fun, but now it seems to be either crushing everyone with over 60% or getting demolished by an outside rally.</quote> Link will never get a competitive match again. Either crushing victory, overwhelming rally or contest designed to make him lose (and at this point I'm only picking Cloud if it's something like Link vs Ganon vs Zelda vs Cloud).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 12/12/18 7:21:12 PM #325:	Link matches don't need to be competitive. There is joy in watching his enemies be broken before him. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:914024113] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Link matches don't need to be competitive. There is joy in watching his enemies be broken before him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 12/12/18 7:27:14 PM #326:	maybe Zelda will be able to lead for 15 minutes tomorrow! --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:914024401] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>maybe Zelda will be able to lead for 15 minutes tomorrow!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Averia 12/12/18 7:27:51 PM #327:	There is nothing fun left in his matches. He won't even get ridiculous % anymore so we could just skip his matches by setting random values at 20-25 for fodder, 25-30 for midcarders, and between 35-41 for elites. That's basically all matches Link will ever get until the votals drop so low he starts losing due to antivotes (votals around 5000 I would say) <cite>Averia posted [p:914024433] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>There is nothing fun left in his matches. He won't even get ridiculous % anymore so we could just skip his matches by setting random values at 20-25 for fodder, 25-30 for midcarders, and between 35-41 for elites. That's basically all matches Link will ever get until the votals drop so low he starts losing due to antivotes (votals around 5000 I would say)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 12/12/18 7:36:39 PM #328:	Link's about to win an entire contest with his lowest % being >60%. He can't even enjoy that being an all-time first... because the Years Contest was a thing. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:914024837] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Link's about to win an entire contest with his lowest % being >60%. He can't even enjoy that being an all-time first... because the Years Contest was a thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transcience 12/12/18 7:47:17 PM #329:	he did the same in 2002 --- add the c and back away iphonesience <cite>transcience posted [p:914025377] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>he did the same in 2002</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 12/12/18 7:49:15 PM #330:	transcience posted... he did the same in 2002 He only got 56% against Sephiroth, and we had never seen Link vs. Mario before. Mario had just beaten Cloud, so for all we knew, he could have beaten Link in the final. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:914025464] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>he did the same in 2002</quote> He only got 56% against Sephiroth, and we had never seen Link vs. Mario before. Mario had just beaten Cloud, so for all we knew, he could have beaten Link in the final.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 12/12/18 7:49:23 PM #331:	transcience posted... he did the same in 2002 Sephiroth held him to 56%! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:914025474] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>transcience posted...</cite> <quote>he did the same in 2002</quote> Sephiroth held him to 56%!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/12/18 7:54:46 PM #332:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7372-finals-bracket-2-zelda-vs-sonic https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7362-finals-bracket-round-1-snake-vs-zelda https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7376-loser-bracket-round-2-sonic-vs-snake https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7379-finals-bracket-semifinal-zelda-vs-mario https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7386-loser-bracket-final-zelda-vs-cloud https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7383-loser-bracket-round-4-mario-vs-samus Someone please help me reconcile all these results with https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7381-loser-bracket-round-3-snake-vs-samus --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:914025722] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7372-finals-bracket-2-zelda-vs-sonic https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7362-finals-bracket-round-1-snake-vs-zelda https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7376-loser-bracket-round-2-sonic-vs-snake https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7379-finals-bracket-semifinal-zelda-vs-mario https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7386-loser-bracket-final-zelda-vs-cloud https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7383-loser-bracket-round-4-mario-vs-samus Someone please help me reconcile all these results with https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7381-loser-bracket-round-3-snake-vs-samus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 12/12/18 8:02:23 PM #333:	I assume that's rhetorical? Although, to actually address it. Obviously you attribute Mario/Samus to rSFF but I think you also have to consider the Samus/Snake match a slight aberration because otherwise Samus seems too strong I think? It's an unsatisfying answer but it's not entirely without precedent IMO (Link/Magus 2003 for instance, sprite round couldn't possibly boost him that much, right?) Think you end up with some kind of tier system of: Samus Zelda Mario Cloud Snake [...] Sonic With the following caveats: Whether it's Mario being an rSFF beast or Samus just being very vulnerable to the HIERARCHY is probably indeterminate until/unless we get Samus v Zelda. Indirectly you have to give it to Samus but in terms of what would actually happen, I think you can't count out Zelda citing Mario/Samus and Zelda/Mario as evidence. Snake is on shaky ground. He's basically where he is because you're splitting the different between his matches with Zelda and Samus. You can try to smooth it over by saying Zelda is bandwagoned so his close match with Zelda was against a lesser Zelda than the one against Mario but I don't know if that shakes out all that well with other results. It's really just Occam's Razor that the Samus match is a slight outlier for both sides. But that could easily be wrong but we'd need more data to know. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:914026047] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>I assume that's rhetorical? Although, to actually address it. Obviously you attribute Mario/Samus to rSFF but I think you also have to consider the Samus/Snake match a slight aberration because otherwise Samus seems too strong I think? It's an unsatisfying answer but it's not entirely without precedent IMO (Link/Magus 2003 for instance, sprite round couldn't possibly boost him that much, right?) Think you end up with some kind of tier system of: Samus Zelda Mario Cloud Snake [...] Sonic With the following caveats: Whether it's Mario being an rSFF beast or Samus just being very vulnerable to the HIERARCHY is probably indeterminate until/unless we get Samus v Zelda. Indirectly you have to give it to Samus but in terms of what would actually happen, I think you can't count out Zelda citing Mario/Samus and Zelda/Mario as evidence. Snake is on shaky ground. He's basically where he is because you're splitting the different between his matches with Zelda and Samus. You can try to smooth it over by saying Zelda is bandwagoned so his close match with Zelda was against a lesser Zelda than the one against Mario but I don't know if that shakes out all that well with other results. It's really just Occam's Razor that the Samus match is a slight outlier for both sides. But that could easily be wrong but we'd need more data to know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 12/12/18 8:46:54 PM #334:	hey Cloud might have a shot here --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:914028034] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>hey Cloud might have a shot here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/12/18 9:14:09 PM #335:	He's holding up much better against Zelda than he was against Mario at this point. I would say he should probably be considered the favorite right now but who knows how the trends will fall I guess --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:914029325] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>He's holding up much better against Zelda than he was against Mario at this point. I would say he should probably be considered the favorite right now but who knows how the trends will fall I guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 12/12/18 9:15:40 PM #336:	oh right! damn you sephiroth --- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:914029393] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>oh right! damn you sephiroth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 12/12/18 9:21:06 PM #337:	KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:914029643] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 12/12/18 9:22:51 PM #338:	red sox 777 posted... KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006. Then why couldn't Zelda exploit it? Really think Samus/Zelda would be an enlightening match and we were so close to getting it. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:914029723] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006.</quote> Then why couldn't Zelda exploit it? Really think Samus/Zelda would be an enlightening match and we were so close to getting it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 12/12/18 9:26:05 PM #339:	xp1337 posted... red sox 777 posted... KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006. Then why couldn't Zelda exploit it? Really think Samus/Zelda would be an enlightening match and we were so close to getting it. My guess would be, much less of Zelda's strength comes from Smash. But I guess I have to play Breath of the Wild to understand Zelda's huge surge in strength this year. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:914029849] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006.</quote> Then why couldn't Zelda exploit it? Really think Samus/Zelda would be an enlightening match and we were so close to getting it.</quote> My guess would be, much less of Zelda's strength comes from Smash. But I guess I have to play Breath of the Wild to understand Zelda's huge surge in strength this year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/12/18 9:26:13 PM #340:	red sox 777 posted... KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006. But did it really? --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:914029857] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006.</quote> But did it really?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 12/12/18 9:27:13 PM #341:	LeonhartFour posted... red sox 777 posted... KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006. But did it really? I don't know, but I'm more inclined to believe it did since we've seen very similar stuff happen twice now. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:914029900] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>KP, I think if it works out if there's a substantial amount of SFF in Samus/Snake. It's not unprecedented - the same thing happened in 2006.</quote> But did it really?</quote> I don't know, but I'm more inclined to believe it did since we've seen very similar stuff happen twice now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/12/18 9:29:25 PM #342:	I'm not convinced that Snake was actually stronger than Samus in 2006. He boosted even more in 2010 and still barely finished higher than her in the X-Stats. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:914029999] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>I'm not convinced that Snake was actually stronger than Samus in 2006. He boosted even more in 2010 and still barely finished higher than her in the X-Stats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/12/18 9:29:51 PM #343:	My explanation: Samus got a big temporary Smash boost, making Snake Samus much stronger than Tifa Samus Mario through "clutch" and rSFF was able to mostly mitigate that boost as no one else could Samus is also the strongest of the lot naturally by a lot. To the point where she would've walked over Cloud easily. Zelda is less susceptible to SFF from Mario than Samus, but is indirectly weaker by a lot Samus vs Cloud and Samus vs Zelda are really the only way we'd know though. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:914030023] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>My explanation: Samus got a big temporary Smash boost, making Snake Samus much stronger than Tifa Samus Mario through "clutch" and rSFF was able to mostly mitigate that boost as no one else could Samus is also the strongest of the lot naturally by a lot. To the point where she would've walked over Cloud easily. Zelda is less susceptible to SFF from Mario than Samus, but is indirectly weaker by a lot Samus vs Cloud and Samus vs Zelda are really the only way we'd know though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 12/12/18 9:30:02 PM #344:	I agree with that. Samus was segregated off while Snake was running through the weak links. --- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:914030032] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>I agree with that. Samus was segregated off while Snake was running through the weak links.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
transience 12/12/18 9:41:41 PM #345:	anyway, I think this is your conservative ranking this year: Link Zelda Cloud Mario Samus Snake Crono Mega Man Pikachu Sonic Tifa Sephiroth X Luigi Bowser Yoshi Ganondorf Kirby and then, if you're feeling a little more frisky Link Samus Zelda Cloud Snake Mario Crono Mega Man Pikachu Kirby Tifa Sephiroth X Luigi Yoshi Bowser Sonic Ganondorf --- xyzzy <cite>transience posted [p:914030522] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>anyway, I think this is your conservative ranking this year: Link Zelda Cloud Mario Samus Snake Crono Mega Man Pikachu Sonic Tifa Sephiroth X Luigi Bowser Yoshi Ganondorf Kirby and then, if you're feeling a little more frisky Link Samus Zelda Cloud Snake Mario Crono Mega Man Pikachu Kirby Tifa Sephiroth X Luigi Yoshi Bowser Sonic Ganondorf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SlugSh0t 12/12/18 9:44:41 PM #346:	transience posted... anyway, I think this is your conservative ranking this year: Link Zelda Cloud Mario Samus Snake Crono Mega Man Pikachu Sonic Tifa Sephiroth X Luigi Bowser Yoshi Ganondorf Kirby and then, if you're feeling a little more frisky Link Samus Zelda Cloud Snake Mario Crono Mega Man Pikachu Kirby Tifa Sephiroth X Luigi Yoshi Bowser Sonic Ganondorf Sonic is > Crono and MM based off today, or at least =ish..stop underestimating him. --- >_______________> <cite>SlugSh0t posted [p:914030665] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>transience posted...</cite> <quote>anyway, I think this is your conservative ranking this year: Link Zelda Cloud Mario Samus Snake Crono Mega Man Pikachu Sonic Tifa Sephiroth X Luigi Bowser Yoshi Ganondorf Kirby and then, if you're feeling a little more frisky Link Samus Zelda Cloud Snake Mario Crono Mega Man Pikachu Kirby Tifa Sephiroth X Luigi Yoshi Bowser Sonic Ganondorf</quote> Sonic is > Crono and MM based off today, or at least =ish..stop underestimating him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/12/18 10:02:45 PM #347:	Speaking of rankings: Link - 50 Samus Aran - 39.96 Cloud Strife - 39.48 Mario - 39.28 Zelda - 36.38 Solid Snake - 36.15 Crono - 35.48 Mega Man - 35.33 Pikachu - 34.86 Tifa - 33.1 Mega Man X - 32.98 Ganondorf - 32.98 Luigi - 32.2 Bowser - 32.06 Sephiroth - 32.01 Kirby - 32 Vivi Ornitier - 31.68 Sonic the Hedgehog - 31.65 Yoshi - 31.51 Alucard - 31.27 Zero - 30.29 Auron - 29.03 Pokemon Trainer Red - 28.89 Dante - 28.75 Donkey Kong - 28.53 Ryu - 28.39 Sora - 28.37 Charizard - 27.86 Mewtwo - 27.74 Big Boss - 27.63 Aerith Gainsborough - 27.51 Chun-Li - 27.1 Princess Peach - 27.01 Squall Leonhart - 26.82 2B - 26.81 Knuckles - 26.56 Terra Branford - 26.3 Amaterasu - 26.25 Crash Bandicoot - 26.04 Geralt - 26.04 Fox McCloud - 26.02 Vincent Valentine - 25.65 Bayonetta - 25.58 Kratos - 25.51 Kefka - 25.36 Leon Kennedy - 25.29 Ryu Hayabusa - 25.28 Yuna - 25.25 Sub-Zero - 25.13 Simon Belmont - 24.9 Ness - 24.82 Frog - 24.71 Magus - 24.68 Phoenix Wright - 24.58 Tidus - 24.57 Pac-Man - 24.52 Ike - 24.25 Wario - 24.08 Ridley - 23.95 Jill Valentine - 23.89 Cecil Harvey - 23.86 Captain Falcon - 23.83 Spyro the Dragon - 23.75 Lara Croft - 23.67 Scorpion - 23.42 Waluigi - 23.37 Shadow the Hedgehog - 23.2 Zidane Tribal - 22.95 Rosalina - 22.9 Toad - 22.01 The Boss - 21.32 Chris Redfield - 21.17 Shovel Knight - 20.88 Revolver Ocelot - 20.84 GlaDOS - 20.81 King DeDeDe - 20.63 Bomberman - 20.38 L-Block - 20.2 Albert Wesker - 20.19 Tails - 20.19 Lucina - 20.06 KOS-MOS - 19.83 Lightning - 19.77 Garrus Vakarian - 19.3 Ramza Beoulve - 19.06 Isaac - 19.01 Commander Shepard - 18.99 Richter Belmont - 18.87 Shulk - 18.81 Master Hand - 18.8 Velvet Crowe - 18.55 Metal Sonic - 18.54 King K. Rool - 18.52 Joel - 18.28 Riku - 18.21 Ellie - 18.07 Master Chief - 17.97 Ezio Auditore da Firenze - 17.95 Lloyd Irving - 17.92 Geno - 17.75 Ryo Hazuki - 17.54 Nathan Drake - 17.47 Monika - 17.07 Claire Redfield - 16.95 Aqua - 16.9 Cuphead - 16.34 Guile - 16.29 Shantae - 16.22 Noctis Lucis Caelum - 15.96 Kazuma Kiryu - 15.95 Yu Narukami - 15.91 Dragonborn - 15.84 Joker / Ren Amamiya - 15.74 Primrose - 15.64 Aya Brea - 15.56 Goro Majima - 15.32 Metal Man - 15.2 D.Va - 14.82 Miles Edgeworth - 14.51 Gordon Freeman - 14.5 James Sunderland - 14.45 Neptune - 14.26 Neku Sakuraba - 14.11 Aloy - 13.95 Godot - 13.86 John Marston - 13.68 Estelle Bright - 13.45 Sans - 13.15 Monokuma - 13.01 Hat Kid - 12.94 Isabelle - 12.76 Victor Sullivan - 12.58 Quiet - 12.13 Cayde-6 - 11.9 Chloe Price - 8.65 Draven - 6.22 This is maybe not entirely done but I'm probably not changing it much from here on out. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:914031536] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Speaking of rankings: Link - 50 Samus Aran - 39.96 Cloud Strife - 39.48 Mario - 39.28 Zelda - 36.38 Solid Snake - 36.15 Crono - 35.48 Mega Man - 35.33 Pikachu - 34.86 Tifa - 33.1 Mega Man X - 32.98 Ganondorf - 32.98 Luigi - 32.2 Bowser - 32.06 Sephiroth - 32.01 Kirby - 32 Vivi Ornitier - 31.68 Sonic the Hedgehog - 31.65 Yoshi - 31.51 Alucard - 31.27 Zero - 30.29 Auron - 29.03 Pokemon Trainer Red - 28.89 Dante - 28.75 Donkey Kong - 28.53 Ryu - 28.39 Sora - 28.37 Charizard - 27.86 Mewtwo - 27.74 Big Boss - 27.63 Aerith Gainsborough - 27.51 Chun-Li - 27.1 Princess Peach - 27.01 Squall Leonhart - 26.82 2B - 26.81 Knuckles - 26.56 Terra Branford - 26.3 Amaterasu - 26.25 Crash Bandicoot - 26.04 Geralt - 26.04 Fox McCloud - 26.02 Vincent Valentine - 25.65 Bayonetta - 25.58 Kratos - 25.51 Kefka - 25.36 Leon Kennedy - 25.29 Ryu Hayabusa - 25.28 Yuna - 25.25 Sub-Zero - 25.13 Simon Belmont - 24.9 Ness - 24.82 Frog - 24.71 Magus - 24.68 Phoenix Wright - 24.58 Tidus - 24.57 Pac-Man - 24.52 Ike - 24.25 Wario - 24.08 Ridley - 23.95 Jill Valentine - 23.89 Cecil Harvey - 23.86 Captain Falcon - 23.83 Spyro the Dragon - 23.75 Lara Croft - 23.67 Scorpion - 23.42 Waluigi - 23.37 Shadow the Hedgehog - 23.2 Zidane Tribal - 22.95 Rosalina - 22.9 Toad - 22.01 The Boss - 21.32 Chris Redfield - 21.17 Shovel Knight - 20.88 Revolver Ocelot - 20.84 GlaDOS - 20.81 King DeDeDe - 20.63 Bomberman - 20.38 L-Block - 20.2 Albert Wesker - 20.19 Tails - 20.19 Lucina - 20.06 KOS-MOS - 19.83 Lightning - 19.77 Garrus Vakarian - 19.3 Ramza Beoulve - 19.06 Isaac - 19.01 Commander Shepard - 18.99 Richter Belmont - 18.87 Shulk - 18.81 Master Hand - 18.8 Velvet Crowe - 18.55 Metal Sonic - 18.54 King K. Rool - 18.52 Joel - 18.28 Riku - 18.21 Ellie - 18.07 Master Chief - 17.97 Ezio Auditore da Firenze - 17.95 Lloyd Irving - 17.92 Geno - 17.75 Ryo Hazuki - 17.54 Nathan Drake - 17.47 Monika - 17.07 Claire Redfield - 16.95 Aqua - 16.9 Cuphead - 16.34 Guile - 16.29 Shantae - 16.22 Noctis Lucis Caelum - 15.96 Kazuma Kiryu - 15.95 Yu Narukami - 15.91 Dragonborn - 15.84 Joker / Ren Amamiya - 15.74 Primrose - 15.64 Aya Brea - 15.56 Goro Majima - 15.32 Metal Man - 15.2 D.Va - 14.82 Miles Edgeworth - 14.51 Gordon Freeman - 14.5 James Sunderland - 14.45 Neptune - 14.26 Neku Sakuraba - 14.11 Aloy - 13.95 Godot - 13.86 John Marston - 13.68 Estelle Bright - 13.45 Sans - 13.15 Monokuma - 13.01 Hat Kid - 12.94 Isabelle - 12.76 Victor Sullivan - 12.58 Quiet - 12.13 Cayde-6 - 11.9 Chloe Price - 8.65 Draven - 6.22 This is maybe not entirely done but I'm probably not changing it much from here on out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 12/12/18 10:04:52 PM #348:	Zelda seems a little low to me --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:914031634] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Zelda seems a little low to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarThaNemesis2 12/12/18 10:05:32 PM #349:	Man I wish we had gotten a DK/Squall/Vincent/Charizard fourpack. --- https://imgur.com/M1heX2g RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( <cite>WarThaNemesis2 posted [p:914031666] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Man I wish we had gotten a DK/Squall/Vincent/Charizard fourpack.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/12/18 10:06:40 PM #350:	The Mana Sword posted... Zelda seems a little low to me Zelda in her matches in her division, as well as her matches against Snake/Sonic, is simply not the same creature as the one we have now And if she is, I certainly couldn't make the stats work to make it so without exploding a lot of other things --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:914031717] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>Zelda seems a little low to me</quote> Zelda in her matches in her division, as well as her matches against Snake/Sonic, is simply not the same creature as the one we have now And if she is, I certainly couldn't make the stats work to make it so without exploding a lot of other things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/12/18 10:13:18 PM #351:	Also, here's some of my favorite bits: Donkey Kong - 28.53 Ryu - 28.39 Vivi Ornitier - 31.68 Sonic the Hedgehog - 31.65 Garrus Vakarian - 19.3 Commander Shepard - 18.99 Scorpion - 23.42 Waluigi - 23.37 Princess Peach - 27.01 Squall Leonhart - 26.82 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:914032049] in Character ... [t:77280848]...</cite> <quote>Also, here's some of my favorite bits: Donkey Kong - 28.53 Ryu - 28.39 Vivi Ornitier - 31.68 Sonic the Hedgehog - 31.65 Garrus Vakarian - 19.3 Commander Shepard - 18.99 Scorpion - 23.42 Waluigi - 23.37 Princess Peach - 27.01 Squall Leonhart - 26.82</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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