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Myzery
12/09/18 6:57:05 PM
#203:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Alabama
Detroit
Mississippi
Tennessee
Ohio
Texas
Georgia
Indiana
Louisiana
Iowa
North Carolina
Milwaukee
Oklahoma
Missouri
Cincinatti

All these states have places where the cost of living is under $40K, well under the $50K that those workers were already making before the strike. If they had just avoided the most expensive state in the nation and done a little research, they would be able to live comfortably on their current salary.


Why did you list Cincinnati and Ohio separately?
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averagejoel
12/09/18 6:57:23 PM
#204:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Why should a person doing such unskilled work make so much money? Wasn't answered so I'll ask again. Unless you think salting fries is "contributing a lot".

they produce a lot of money, which they should be entitled to
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Anti-245
12/09/18 6:57:33 PM
#205:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Anti-245 posted...
I mean if they can afford to pay CEOs thousands of times the rate workers make, I don't see why not. Productivity still increases, wages stagnate and corporate profits are through the roof? Why?

Because there are thousands of CEOs in a company, right?Anti-245 posted...

Also, several scientific fields require rigorous work, much more than lawyers and doctors, but they're not paid nearly at the same even though they contribute much more to society.

How did we even get this far off track? It would be great if people could be paid more if they contribute that much. However, this kind of screws over your initial argument. You think a fast food worker or GameStop employee is worth $70K a year?

No, but CEOs make thousands of times the wage that workers make for no apparent reason.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/09/18 6:58:04 PM
#206:


I wonder how much longer this argument will continue before everyone realizes they're wasting their time
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/09/18 6:58:17 PM
#207:


Anti-245 posted...
They produce wealth and they should enjoy it without having it snatched by the corporate elite. How would you determine who deserves what in wage labor?

I don't determine who determines wages; the owner of the company does. And if people aren't happy with said wages, they aren't obligated to take that job. Or if they need immediate money, they can, as I've many, MANY times, have a roommate or second job.
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/09/18 6:59:19 PM
#208:


Good point. So this'll be my last post. Get a second job or roommate, but don't think that you're entitled to $70K a year for doing such a common, easy to get, unskilled job.
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Anti-245
12/09/18 7:00:15 PM
#209:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Why should a person doing such unskilled work make so much money? Wasn't answered so I'll ask again. Unless you think salting fries is "contributing a lot".

It's about as much as sitting around while others generate wealth for you and taking most of it for yourself. But continue to believe that CEOs work so hard and I've answered your question multiple times.
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Anti-245
12/09/18 7:01:56 PM
#210:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Anti-245 posted...
They produce wealth and they should enjoy it without having it snatched by the corporate elite. How would you determine who deserves what in wage labor?

I don't determine who determines wages; the owner of the company does. And if people aren't happy with said wages, they aren't obligated to take that job. Or if they need immediate money, they can, as I've many, MANY times, have a roommate or second job.

Why should the said owner determine it and how does he or she do it? Does he or she also produce things to be sold or does someone else do? If they do, how come they can't decide what and how much profit they can back?
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Anti-245
12/09/18 7:03:04 PM
#211:


Myzery posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Alabama
Detroit
Mississippi
Tennessee
Ohio
Texas
Georgia
Indiana
Louisiana
Iowa
North Carolina
Milwaukee
Oklahoma
Missouri
Cincinatti

All these states have places where the cost of living is under $40K, well under the $50K that those workers were already making before the strike. If they had just avoided the most expensive state in the nation and done a little research, they would be able to live comfortably on their current salary.


Why did you list Cincinnati and Ohio separately?

He's listed several cities and states, changing the parameters for the case he was making.
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averagejoel
12/09/18 7:03:11 PM
#212:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Good point. So this'll be my last post. Get a second job or roommate, but don't think that you're entitled to $70K a year for doing such a common, easy to get, unskilled job.

a job being common, easy to get, and unskilled does not mean it shouldn't pay a living wage
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Anti-245
12/09/18 7:06:41 PM
#213:


Another thing I hear as much is that Christians are hypocrites because they don't follow OT law but they use it to condemn gay marriage and such. You should probably stop using this argument.
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DrizztLink
12/09/18 7:45:53 PM
#214:


I got a new myth people won't shut the fuck up about.

"This topic will be improved by vomiting the same arguments about minimum wages over and over again."
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/09/18 7:46:46 PM
#215:


In all fairness we stopped that argument since neither side would see eye to eye
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pres_madagascar
12/09/18 9:34:00 PM
#216:


averagejoel posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Godnorgosh posted...
Humans are naturally evil/selfish/competitive

We are. We're fucking apes.

averagejoel posted...
adding another myth to the mix:

"human nature is static"

or, if you prefer:

"human nature is independent from the way humans are socialized"

Individual humans can be great, and in small tribes we can be quite great. The larger we get as a group, the more primal we get.
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averagejoel
12/09/18 10:07:24 PM
#217:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
In all fairness we stopped that argument since neither side would see eye to eye

that is certainly a way of looking at it
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/09/18 10:24:27 PM
#218:


Well certainly you agree that well never agree on this issue, making it pointless to continue?
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averagejoel
12/09/18 10:44:09 PM
#219:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Well certainly you agree that well never agree on this issue, making it pointless to continue?

I don't think it's a matter of agreeing.
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/09/18 10:49:42 PM
#220:


Wait...So what was that long debate about then?
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averagejoel
12/09/18 10:52:17 PM
#221:


you somehow thinking that people being unable to afford to live is a good thing while Anti-245 and I tried and failed to make you seem like a human being
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TheOrgyPorgy
12/09/18 10:53:10 PM
#222:


"The Bible is not the inerrant word of God."
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/09/18 11:04:44 PM
#223:


Please tell me where I said that its good that people cant afford to live. Just tell me where I said that.

But really...dont start this up again. The only reason Im even replying is because your You said people being unable to live is good was objectively false.
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averagejoel
12/09/18 11:30:45 PM
#224:


another myth that I've seen perpetuated in this very topic:

inconvenience due to striking workers is the fault of the workers and not the boss who is not treating them fairly
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Rika_Furude
12/09/18 11:32:12 PM
#225:


"Weeb shit"
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/09/18 11:37:08 PM
#226:


averagejoel posted...
another myth that I've seen perpetuated in this very topic:

inconvenience due to striking workers is the fault of the workers and not the boss who is not treating them fairly

Deflection from

fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Please tell me where I said that its good that people cant afford to live. Just tell me where I said that.

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Anti-245
12/09/18 11:37:19 PM
#227:


TheOrgyPorgy posted...
"The Bible is not the inerrant word of God."

So, it is?
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averagejoel
12/09/18 11:57:02 PM
#228:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
averagejoel posted...
another myth that I've seen perpetuated in this very topic:

inconvenience due to striking workers is the fault of the workers and not the boss who is not treating them fairly

Deflection from

fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Please tell me where I said that its good that people cant afford to live. Just tell me where I said that.

not a deflection. just a different conversation. you haven't listened to anything I've said, and you're going on my ignore list soon.
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/09/18 11:59:50 PM
#229:


lol soon? Just do it already. It's the standard "I have no logical reply so I'll just say I'm ignoring you" response. I mean you might as well, seeing as how you just dodged my question in regards to your false accusation.
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monkeysRfunny
12/10/18 12:08:43 AM
#230:


averagejoel posted...
not a deflection. just a different conversation. you haven't listened to anything I've said, and you're going on my ignore list soon.

*asked where he said something*
*response is something completely unrelated*

Yeah... sorry, but that's the definition of a deflection.
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averagejoel
12/10/18 12:10:19 AM
#231:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
lol soon? Just do it already. It's the standard "I have no logical reply so I'll just say I'm ignoring you" response. I mean you might as well, seeing as how you just dodged my question in regards to your false accusation.

you don't have a good track record of actually listening to people, so I'm not wasting my time clicking back through this topic for receipts.

I'm not sure if you're wealthy yourself or if you just have some heavy false consciousness going on, but at this point it really makes no difference to me
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averagejoel
12/10/18 12:11:19 AM
#232:


monkeysRfunny posted...
averagejoel posted...
not a deflection. just a different conversation. you haven't listened to anything I've said, and you're going on my ignore list soon.

*asked where he said something*
*response is something completely unrelated*

Yeah... sorry, but that's the definition of a deflection.

it's implicit in pretty much everything he's said in this topic
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The Wheelman1
12/10/18 12:22:08 AM
#233:


hockeybub89 posted...
You can do anything you put your mind to.

Hard work always pays off.

Things will turn out fine in the end.

How's the temperature in the basement?
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d_parker
12/10/18 12:22:15 AM
#234:


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fuzzylittlbunny
12/10/18 12:25:38 AM
#235:


You seem to be judging me by this topic alone. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't do so, as it seems to be giving you the wrong impression of me. Most people simply know me as the smiley-spamming guy rather than someone who incites arguments all the time.

So look, how about this. We simply agree to disagree on this one issue. We end this argument tactfully without any more conflict, because I feel it's never a good thing to make enemies over one disagreement. Will you accept my apology for anything inconsiderate I may have said here?
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averagejoel
12/10/18 12:34:41 AM
#236:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
You seem to be judging me by this topic alone. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't do so, as it seems to be giving you the wrong impression of me. Most people simply know me as the smiley-spamming guy rather than someone who incites arguments all the time.

So look, how about this. We simply agree to disagree on this one issue. We end this argument tactfully without any more conflict, because I feel it's never a good thing to make enemies over one disagreement. Will you accept my apology for anything inconsiderate I may have said here?

it's not inciting arguments that I have a problem with. it's your worldview. if you think that people shouldn't be able to live off a single job, your worldview is an immoral one. it's not a matter of disagreement; it would still be immoral if I agreed with it.
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masticatingman
12/10/18 12:52:24 AM
#237:


If you have a wife (or partner) and kids you deserve your pay more than that single guy/gal who plows through sexual partners.

Completely sidesteps meritocratic sensibilities in favor of social inclusiveness - while seeming to bypass the fact that a lot of younger guys/gals with kids probably werent financially/emotionally ready anyway.
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fuzzylittlbunny
12/10/18 12:58:29 AM
#238:


Look, I'm not trying to say that one job shouldn't be enough; it would be great if everyone could live off one job and not need to jump through hoops to survive. It's just that I feel that in the world today there are circumstances that prevent this from being a reality.

I realize now that I may have come off too pessimistic by starting simply by saying that one job should be enough is a myth in regards to the topic title. But just to clarify, I'm not trying to say that it's good that these people needed to strike to get a raise. I just think that sometimes people need to make sacrifices if they can only go so far by themselves.
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UltraDeku
12/11/18 2:33:30 AM
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LiqiudusSnake
12/11/18 2:44:14 AM
#240:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Gender wage gap

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