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Rika_Furude
12/10/18 11:23:30 PM
#52:


How about you calm down and try again.
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Webmaster4531
12/10/18 11:24:26 PM
#53:


Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people like owning black and latino slaves"
"We want more rights for everyone"
"How about just latino slaves?"

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YookaLaylee
12/10/18 11:25:28 PM
#54:


Webmaster4531 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people like owning black and latino slaves"
"We want more rights for everyone"
"How about just latino slaves?"

You sound extremely delusional right now. This isnt how anyone thinks
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Antifar
12/10/18 11:26:37 PM
#55:


Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people"
"We want more rights for black people"
"How about equality for all people?"

Even this sanitized version of the centrist ethos only makes sense in a vacuum where power and material conditions are already equal.
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Webmaster4531
12/10/18 11:26:55 PM
#56:


YookaLaylee posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people like owning black and latino slaves"
"We want more rights for everyone"
"How about just latino slaves?"

You sound extremely delusional right now. This isnt how anyone thinks

Kanye called to abolish the 13th amendment.
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YookaLaylee
12/10/18 11:27:50 PM
#57:


Webmaster4531 posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people like owning black and latino slaves"
"We want more rights for everyone"
"How about just latino slaves?"

You sound extremely delusional right now. This isnt how anyone thinks

Kanye called to abolish the 13th amendment.

Kanye is a bipolar weirdo
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Dash_Harber
12/10/18 11:27:59 PM
#58:


Let's be honest; when people are talking about how awful centrist are, they aren't talking about the actual centrists political philosophy, they are talking about the assholes who go, "well, everyone has some good points, so I'm just going to do nothing".
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Anti-245
12/10/18 11:28:06 PM
#59:


Webmaster4531 posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people like owning black and latino slaves"
"We want more rights for everyone"
"How about just latino slaves?"

You sound extremely delusional right now. This isnt how anyone thinks

Kanye called to abolish the 13th amendment.

To fair to Kanye, he was talking about the loophole that allowed for mass incarceration.
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Webmaster4531
12/10/18 11:29:08 PM
#60:


Anti-245 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people like owning black and latino slaves"
"We want more rights for everyone"
"How about just latino slaves?"

You sound extremely delusional right now. This isnt how anyone thinks

Kanye called to abolish the 13th amendment.

To fair to Kanye, he was talking about the loophole that allowed for mass incarceration.

That's the lie deplorables tell.
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Anti-245
12/10/18 11:30:32 PM
#61:


Webmaster4531 posted...
Anti-245 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people like owning black and latino slaves"
"We want more rights for everyone"
"How about just latino slaves?"

You sound extremely delusional right now. This isnt how anyone thinks

Kanye called to abolish the 13th amendment.

To fair to Kanye, he was talking about the loophole that allowed for mass incarceration.

That's the lie deplorables tell.

He tweeted that out after he said that so that's what took from it. It should be amended so that slavery is illegal with no exceptions.
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Anti-245
12/10/18 11:31:49 PM
#62:


Antifar posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
More like:

"We want more rights for white people"
"We want more rights for black people"
"How about equality for all people?"

Even this sanitized version of the centrist ethos only makes sense in a vacuum where power and material conditions are already equal.

It's what idealists likely believe.
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Rika_Furude
12/10/18 11:36:00 PM
#64:


Dash_Harber posted...
Let's be honest; when people are talking about how awful centrist are, they aren't talking about the actual centrists political philosophy, they are talking about the assholes who go, "well, everyone has some good points, so I'm just going to do nothing".

Theres definitely users itt who hate all centrists, just because they arent extreme left or right
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AlephZero
12/10/18 11:37:34 PM
#65:


to some users here anyone to the right of Lenin is a centrist
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apolloooo
12/10/18 11:37:35 PM
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NotWhiteNinja posted...
The worst are people who think "centrist" literally means they blindly pick the middle ground on everything in the same way the far-left or far-right blindly follow their side.

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Anti-245
12/10/18 11:38:10 PM
#67:


What exactly is Centrism as an ideology?
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Rika_Furude
12/10/18 11:39:40 PM
#68:


Anti-245 posted...
What exactly is Centrism as an ideology?

Bits and pieces of both right and left. Maybe something like agreeing that things like national healthcare, UBI need to exist etc, but that the countries citizens should be helped before we help other countries/immigrants or something.
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Dash_Harber
12/10/18 11:41:09 PM
#69:


Anti-245 posted...
What exactly is Centrism as an ideology?


Basically? Canada's political parties, mostly the liberals.

Some policies from both sides. It's good in the way that it can borrow the best policies from both sides, but if sucks in that it never takes a hardline when it comes to super important issues, like environmentalism or military intervention.
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Antifar
12/10/18 11:42:01 PM
#70:


Anti-245 posted...
What exactly is Centrism as an ideology?

Well, this is the frustrating thing: a centrist in the US is defining themselves against the Republicans and Democrats, more likely than not. A centrist in the UK is working with the Conservatives and Labour as reference points. These create very different ideas of what centrism entails.

Which is why it's more useful for self-described centrists to just lay out their politics than to define themselves by what they aren't. We have actual names for their amalgams of views!
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Rika_Furude
12/10/18 11:43:20 PM
#71:


Dash_Harber posted...
Anti-245 posted...
What exactly is Centrism as an ideology?


Basically? Canada's political parties, mostly the liberals.

Some policies from both sides. It's good in the way that it can borrow the best policies from both sides, but if sucks in that it never takes a hardline when it comes to super important issues, like environmentalism or military intervention.

Theres nothing inherant about centrism preventing that though.
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ledbowman
12/10/18 11:44:06 PM
#72:


My problem with centrism is there is nothing on the right to stand on. Deny science. Tax cuts for the rich. Creeping theocracy. Centrists see these issues and are still like "yeah but I don't want to be extreme."
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Anti-245
12/10/18 11:44:20 PM
#73:


Dash_Harber posted...
Anti-245 posted...
What exactly is Centrism as an ideology?


Basically? Canada's political parties, mostly the liberals.

Some policies from both sides. It's good in the way that it can borrow the best policies from both sides, but if sucks in that it never takes a hardline when it comes to super important issues, like environmentalism or military intervention.

So, settler colonialist, imperial policy? How's that different from neoliberalism?
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bobbaaay
12/10/18 11:45:08 PM
#74:


I'm a liberal like 95% - but i hate modern liberals and their witch hunts and digital vigilantism, oversensitivity, and intellectual laziness in not wanting discourse.

What am i, CE? Am i moderate or centrist or whatever then by some peoples' standards?
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Webmaster4531
12/10/18 11:46:58 PM
#75:


bobbaaay posted...
I'm a liberal like 95%

Oh wow that's really helpful.
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AlephZero
12/10/18 11:47:08 PM
#76:


bobbaaay posted...
I'm a liberal like 95% - but i hate modern liberals and their witch hunts and digital vigilantism, oversensitivity, and intellectual laziness in not wanting discourse.

What am i, CE? Am i moderate or centrist or whatever then by some peoples' standards?

you are as fascist
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Rika_Furude
12/10/18 11:47:31 PM
#77:


bobbaaay posted...
I'm a liberal like 95% - but i hate modern liberals and their witch hunts and digital vigilantism, oversensitivity, and intellectual laziness in not wanting discourse.

What am i, CE? Am i moderate or centrist or whatever then by some peoples' standards?

According to TC and other itt you are "the worst"
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bobbaaay
12/10/18 11:49:04 PM
#78:


AlephZero posted...
bobbaaay posted...
I'm a liberal like 95% - but i hate modern liberals and their witch hunts and digital vigilantism, oversensitivity, and intellectual laziness in not wanting discourse.

What am i, CE? Am i moderate or centrist or whatever then by some peoples' standards?

you are as fascist


I'm a fascist for thinking doxxing people is shitty?
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AlephZero
12/10/18 11:49:36 PM
#79:


doxxing is ok as long as it's people i don't like
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bobbaaay
12/10/18 11:50:45 PM
#80:


AlephZero posted...
doxxing is ok as long as it's people i don't like


This is literally the attitude of people nowadays
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Webmaster4531
12/10/18 11:51:33 PM
#81:


bobbaaay posted...
AlephZero posted...
bobbaaay posted...
I'm a liberal like 95% - but i hate modern liberals and their witch hunts and digital vigilantism, oversensitivity, and intellectual laziness in not wanting discourse.

What am i, CE? Am i moderate or centrist or whatever then by some peoples' standards?

you are as fascist


I'm a fascist for thinking doxxing people is shitty?

Are you going to explain what 95% liberal means?

What kind of tax plan do you prefer? What do you think about citizens united? What kind of healthcare plan?
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SK8T3R215
12/10/18 11:51:57 PM
#82:


Ree centrists get out
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lesidesi
12/10/18 11:52:10 PM
#83:


Ns3TsRT
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lesidesi
12/10/18 11:52:57 PM
#84:


G6y1BVv
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lesidesi
12/10/18 11:54:33 PM
#85:


OpMUIrC
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ledbowman
12/10/18 11:54:39 PM
#86:


Lol those ^
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Anti-245
12/10/18 11:58:50 PM
#87:


Most of these proposals are operating in a neoliberal framework. You should just call yourself a right-wing neoliberal imo.
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bobbaaay
12/11/18 12:00:29 AM
#88:


Webmaster4531 posted...
bobbaaay posted...
AlephZero posted...
bobbaaay posted...
I'm a liberal like 95% - but i hate modern liberals and their witch hunts and digital vigilantism, oversensitivity, and intellectual laziness in not wanting discourse.

What am i, CE? Am i moderate or centrist or whatever then by some peoples' standards?

you are as fascist


I'm a fascist for thinking doxxing people is shitty?

Are you going to explain what 95% liberal means?

What kind of tax plan do you prefer? What do you think about citizens united? What kind of healthcare plan?


Are you really going to try and be a condescending dick? Im not well versed in fiscal issues. I guess I'd say based on income? Single payer healthcare is ideal - but i did like a lot about the ACA.

I'm "liberal" because i support a lot of non profits and government assistance programs, i believe in respect being a right rather than a privilege, I support workers rights and fair treatment of workers (not just financially but socially), I'm liberal on most social issues, I'm pro gun control (and quite frankly think they're for lames), etc.

I would also say I'm liberal because i support rehabilitation and counseling -- but most liberals nowadays just want extreme punishment
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haloiscoolisbak
12/11/18 12:02:20 AM
#89:


lesidesi posted...
Ns3TsRT


I'm serious about centralist position on education and borders

Don't want open borders dong want extreme restrictions

Don't think education should be absolutely free don't think it should cost thousands and thousands
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prince_leo
12/11/18 12:03:56 AM
#90:


my hot take is that most people who identify as centrists are just politically apathetic
a centrist isn't really a label. if someone says they're a democratic socialist, you can guess their opinion on a lot of things. if someone identifies as part of the tea party movement, you can guess their views fairly accurately
a centrist doesn't give you that. they could take the time to find out what little corner of the spectrum they fall, but they don't

then there's the crap about how they don't toe party lines, as if every democrat or republican agrees with everything the party says or does. like, that's not unique or special
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Webmaster4531
12/11/18 12:06:21 AM
#91:


bobbaaay posted...
Are you really going to try and be a condescending dick?

Are you really going to ask me that when you implied all liberals are SJW loons? Hard for me not to be condescending when you're own hypocrisy is flying over your head.
bobbaaay posted...
I would also say I'm liberal because i support rehabilitation and counseling -- but most liberals nowadays just want extreme punishment

Woop, there it goes again.
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DaveTheUseless
12/11/18 12:12:46 AM
#92:


Hi I'm a centrist

Have a nice day
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Tyranthraxus
12/11/18 12:15:07 AM
#93:


DaveTheUseless posted...
Hi I'm a centrist

Have a nice day

I'll have whatever fucking day that I want
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bobbaaay
12/11/18 12:53:08 AM
#94:


Webmaster4531 posted...
bobbaaay posted...
Are you really going to try and be a condescending dick?

Are you really going to ask me that when you implied all liberals are SJW loons? Hard for me not to be condescending when you're own hypocrisy is flying over your head.
bobbaaay posted...
I would also say I'm liberal because i support rehabilitation and counseling -- but most liberals nowadays just want extreme punishment

Woop, there it goes again.


I never used the term sjw - and my comment wasn't condescending because it is factually correct. Modern liberals DO support digital vigilantism, and they DON'T believe it's their duty to educate those of opposing viewpoints (ie intellectual laziness)
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ledbowman
12/11/18 12:58:29 AM
#95:


bobbaaay posted...
believe it's their duty to educate those of opposing viewpoints

I thought this was called coastal elitism.
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Webmaster4531
12/11/18 1:06:42 AM
#96:


bobbaaay posted...
I never used the term sjw -

I never said you did. Google what imply means.

bobbaaay posted...
and my comment was condescending because it isn't correct and just anecdotal bullshit.

FTFY
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Romes187
12/11/18 1:14:32 AM
#97:


If youre a liberal or conservative in 2018 you are absolutely pathetic and you actually believe your politicians care about you LOL

But gfaqs is full of teenagers who havent done the required research to form opinions of their own. So ideology makes it easy for them to play their video games, bitch about not getting laid, and they can join their political team where they can finally belong to a group and feel welcome

Like...just lol.

The best part is watching the cognitive dissonance all day long
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Anti-245
12/11/18 1:15:58 AM
#98:


Romes187 posted...
If youre a liberal or conservative in 2018 you are absolutely pathetic and you actually believe your politicians care about you LOL

But gfaqs is full of teenagers who havent done the required research to form opinions of their own. So ideology makes it easy for them to play their video games, bitch about not getting laid, and they can join their political team where they can finally belong to a group and feel welcome

Like...just lol.

The best part is watching the cognitive dissonance all day long

Most people are liberal these days. "Conservative" is a right wing liberal.
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Webmaster4531
12/11/18 1:18:09 AM
#99:


Romes187 posted...
G6y1BVv

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NotWhiteNinja
12/11/18 1:20:02 AM
#100:


@Darmik posted...
NotWhiteNinja posted...
The worst are people who think "centrist" literally means they blindly pick the middle ground on everything in the same way the far-left or far-right blindly follow their side.


https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/1072277953202061313


Broken link. Got a screenshot or something?
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Romes187
12/11/18 1:36:00 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Romes187 posted...
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