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Webmaster4531
12/11/18 1:53:23 AM
#102:


Romes187 posted...
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NonDairyMiltank
12/11/18 2:26:03 AM
#103:


Dash_Harber posted...
Let's be honest; when people are talking about how awful centrist are, they aren't talking about the actual centrists political philosophy, they are talking about the assholes who go, "well, everyone has some good points, so I'm just going to do nothing".

and they have that right

theyre not innately assholes for makin that choice
you however sure as hell don't sound any better for claimin they are...

don't like when people sit on the fence?
then political parties need to do a better job selling their agendas
it is THEIR obligation to impress voters, not the other way around
that includes how parties conduct themselves and who they support

if the party you subscribe to is doin a shit job portrayin itself in media and the public eye, well duh some people ain't gonna want to join it
if the current political climate is full of toxic bs and endless mudslinging between extremes, duh some people are gonna opt out
centrism is one of the natural results of that shit and not all of them do it because of political apathy

im liberal af for a lot of reasons
so much that i can respect other people's choices for not voting the same as me, including centrists
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ledbowman
12/11/18 2:42:43 AM
#104:


NonDairyMiltank posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Let's be honest; when people are talking about how awful centrist are, they aren't talking about the actual centrists political philosophy, they are talking about the assholes who go, "well, everyone has some good points, so I'm just going to do nothing".

and they have that right

theyre not innately assholes for makin that choice
you however sure as hell don't sound any better for claimin they are...

don't like when people sit on the fence?
then political parties need to do a better job selling their agendas
it is THEIR obligation to impress voters, not the other way around
that includes how parties conduct themselves and who they support

if the party you subscribe to is doin a shit job portrayin itself in media and the public eye, well duh some people ain't gonna want to join it
if the current political climate is full of toxic bs and endless mudslinging between extremes, duh some people are gonna opt out
centrism is one of the natural results of that shit and not all of them do it because of political apathy

im liberal af for a lot of reasons
so much that i can respect other people's choices for not voting the same as me, including centrists

This is called lazy. Both sides are not equally bad. You don't have to respect Trump Crime Family fans because you're a liberal.
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Rika_Furude
12/11/18 3:13:12 AM
#105:


ledbowman posted...
NonDairyMiltank posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Let's be honest; when people are talking about how awful centrist are, they aren't talking about the actual centrists political philosophy, they are talking about the assholes who go, "well, everyone has some good points, so I'm just going to do nothing".

and they have that right

theyre not innately assholes for makin that choice
you however sure as hell don't sound any better for claimin they are...

don't like when people sit on the fence?
then political parties need to do a better job selling their agendas
it is THEIR obligation to impress voters, not the other way around
that includes how parties conduct themselves and who they support

if the party you subscribe to is doin a shit job portrayin itself in media and the public eye, well duh some people ain't gonna want to join it
if the current political climate is full of toxic bs and endless mudslinging between extremes, duh some people are gonna opt out
centrism is one of the natural results of that shit and not all of them do it because of political apathy

im liberal af for a lot of reasons
so much that i can respect other people's choices for not voting the same as me, including centrists

This is called lazy. Both sides are not equally bad. You don't have to respect Trump Crime Family fans because you're a liberal.

while its true that both sides are not equally bad, its also true that you dont have to discredit and abandon everything the worse side says just because it was them who said it. even they have good ideas.
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Darkman124
12/11/18 9:41:51 AM
#106:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
I'm serious about centralist position on education and borders

Don't want open borders dont want extreme restrictions

Don't think education should be absolutely free don't think it should cost thousands and thousands

as a note, due to the nature of US politics, such positions are those of the left here.

it is only in very recent history that some elements of the left have embraced more extreme positions, largely in response to the shifting overton window. as the right has consistently moved farther right, no one has marginalized with them, they just moved right too.

the vast majority of the democratic party supports the quoted positions. the vast majority of the republican party opposes it with extreme fury.
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Damn_Underscore
12/11/18 10:29:54 AM
#107:


There isn't even a consensus on what being a centrist means.

Half the people in this topic are acting like it means being neutral about everything. If you're just going by word definitions, the word "moderate" would make more sense to describe someone who is generally neutral.

And being neutral is in no way inherently bad or "lazy" as some people are saying.
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Antifar
12/11/18 10:32:49 AM
#108:


Damn_Underscore posted...
There isn't even a consensus on what being a centrist means.

Because how could there be? It's a relative term that is definable only in the context of other things.
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Damn_Underscore
12/11/18 10:36:18 AM
#109:


^Yet we have all these lovely centrist memes that people on this board love to share.

The ironic thing is that those centrist memes are most likely made by far righters.
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Anteaterking
12/11/18 10:52:08 AM
#110:


Damn_Underscore posted...
^Yet we have all these lovely centrist memes that people on this board love to share.

The ironic thing is that those centrist memes are most likely made by far righters.


Most likely based off what?

Centrists carry more water for the right than they do the left.
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Damn_Underscore
12/11/18 10:55:02 AM
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Based on the fact that they are made by people from 4chan
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averagejoel
12/11/18 11:04:49 AM
#112:


I'm a true centrist

Marxism-Leninism and Anarcho-Communism both make some great points
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Romes187
12/11/18 4:00:23 PM
#113:


if centrists like the right more than the left, does that just mean that the right is more center than the left? Like...if you were a centrist, who would you like more? Someone that is +100 on the left, or someone that is +50 on the right?

Wouldn't true centrists not liking "your side" more than the other be an indication that "your side" went too far away?

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CruelBuffalo
12/11/18 4:07:15 PM
#114:


The thing that does bug me is the lazy argument pretending that centrist means just meeting in the middle of an issue. Or that anyone who wants to work a compromise wants to meet in the middle
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DifferentialEquation
12/11/18 4:10:41 PM
#115:


CrimsonRage posted...
"centrists" who always bash the left and never say anything about or always support the right are the worst imo


I've seen plenty of centrists state things they dislike about the right and state things they dislike about left. And, in most cases, the resident leftists lose their shit and accuse said centrist being a secret Trump supporter or something to that effect.
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lesidesi
12/11/18 4:14:28 PM
#116:


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YookaLaylee
12/11/18 4:16:08 PM
#117:


lesidesi posted...
u5J5FFW

Do you just keep a stockpile of these pics saved on your computer? Lol
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Damn_Underscore
12/11/18 4:19:26 PM
#118:


You realize that using Hitler to shame people away from supporting freedom of speech is a tactic Hitler himself would have used.
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lesidesi
12/11/18 4:19:41 PM
#119:


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lesidesi
12/11/18 4:21:11 PM
#120:


Damn_Underscore posted...
The ironic thing is that those centrist memes are most likely made by far righters.

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Damn_Underscore
12/11/18 4:22:37 PM
#121:


lesidesi posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
The ironic thing is that those centrist memes are most likely made by far righters.


They are made by both far righters and far lefties, interesting.
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lesidesi
12/11/18 4:23:18 PM
#122:


i'm actually pretty centrist myself but i find these memes hilarious
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lesidesi
12/11/18 4:24:32 PM
#123:


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catboy0_0
12/11/18 4:24:37 PM
#124:


Ic3Bullet posted...
Literally most people are the worst lmao

this. the people that bash on any political party with sweeping personal generalizations are awful
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lesidesi
12/11/18 4:29:20 PM
#125:


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lesidesi
12/11/18 4:30:54 PM
#126:


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catboy0_0
12/11/18 4:52:14 PM
#127:


lesidesi posted...
7oBKJWS

the problem with Antifa is they are literally trying to bully people into a system of anarchy. They are not the heroes they claim to be.
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DifferentialEquation
12/11/18 4:55:55 PM
#128:


catboy0_0 posted...
lesidesi posted...
7oBKJWS

the problem with Antifa is they are literally trying to bully people into a system of anarchy. They are not the heroes they claim to be.


And that too many people think that because Antifa has achieved the lofty goal of being better than nazis, that that automatically makes Antifa virtuous and that they can do no wrong.
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 4:59:07 PM
#129:


DifferentialEquation posted...
And that too many people think that because Antifa has achieved the lofty goal of being better than nazis, that that automatically makes Antifa virtuous and that they can do no wrong.

never thought I'd agree with a DE post
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A_Good_Boy
12/11/18 5:01:28 PM
#130:


lesidesi posted...
7oBKJWS

So fucking accurate it hurts
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:02:36 PM
#131:


A_Good_Boy posted...
lesidesi posted...

So fucking accurate it hurts

lol
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A_Good_Boy
12/11/18 5:02:40 PM
#132:


catboy0_0 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
And that too many people think that because Antifa has achieved the lofty goal of being better than nazis, that that automatically makes Antifa virtuous and that they can do no wrong.

never thought I'd agree with a DE post

Except for that whole "doesn't actually happen" part, of course.
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:03:37 PM
#133:


A_Good_Boy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
And that too many people think that because Antifa has achieved the lofty goal of being better than nazis, that that automatically makes Antifa virtuous and that they can do no wrong.

never thought I'd agree with a DE post

Except for that whole "doesn't actually happen" part, of course.

that picture is literally glorifying Antifa like they are "stopping those nazis" when in reality they are just domestic terrorists with no backbone
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CapnMuffin
12/11/18 5:04:02 PM
#134:


Important distinction. Is a centrist someone who takes the middle ground of every issue?

Or

Takes various sides for various issues that when averaged puts them in the middle area?
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:04:47 PM
#135:


CapnMuffin posted...
Important distinction. Is a centrist someone who takes the middle ground of every issue?

Or

Takes various sides for various issues that when averaged puts them in the middle area?

political CJers on both sides of the spectrum insist it's the former, when it's actually the latter
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:07:24 PM
#136:


pretty much they look for what confirms their beliefs in a variety of different people with centrist views and try to paint a picture based on how they want to present it
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A_Good_Boy
12/11/18 5:13:49 PM
#137:


catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
And that too many people think that because Antifa has achieved the lofty goal of being better than nazis, that that automatically makes Antifa virtuous and that they can do no wrong.

never thought I'd agree with a DE post

Except for that whole "doesn't actually happen" part, of course.

that picture is literally glorifying Antifa like they are "stopping those nazis" when in reality they are just domestic terrorists with no backbone

Antifa weren't the only ones mentioned in that picture. Don't know if you noticed.
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:14:28 PM
#138:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Antifa weren't the only ones mentioned in that picture. Don't know if you noticed.

I did notice thanks. I was talking about Antifa.
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:18:52 PM
#139:


let me address it more appropriately. You say a centrist sees actual nazi's, antifa, and BLM protesters as the same. What I don't agree with is that Antifa is not really just fighting neo nazis, they are fighting the establishment. Unless you really believe in anarchy, it's rather foolish to call anyone not far left nazis. Yes white nationalists are worse than Antifa, but you can still call a piece of shit a turd just because it doesn't smell as much as a bigger piece of shit
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A_Good_Boy
12/11/18 5:19:23 PM
#140:


catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Antifa weren't the only ones mentioned in that picture. Don't know if you noticed.

I did notice thanks. I was talking about Antifa.

You do realize you're just unironically conforming to that meme, don't you?
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:20:16 PM
#141:


A_Good_Boy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Antifa weren't the only ones mentioned in that picture. Don't know if you noticed.

I did notice thanks. I was talking about Antifa.

You do realize you're just unironically conforming to that meme, don't you?

it's stupid and misrepresents reality
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averagejoel
12/11/18 5:21:55 PM
#142:


Romes187 posted...
if centrists like the right more than the left, does that just mean that the right is more center than the left? Like...if you were a centrist, who would you like more? Someone that is +100 on the left, or someone that is +50 on the right?

Wouldn't true centrists not liking "your side" more than the other be an indication that "your side" went too far away?

nah centrists are just secret nazis

no, it means that our societal filter is more right wing, which makes people see more right wing ideas as neutral and more left wing ideas as radical
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A_Good_Boy
12/11/18 5:21:55 PM
#143:


catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Antifa weren't the only ones mentioned in that picture. Don't know if you noticed.

I did notice thanks. I was talking about Antifa.

You do realize you're just unironically conforming to that meme, don't you?

it's stupid and misrepresents reality

You're literally doing it right now, so it doesn't.
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:21:57 PM
#144:


Also I like BLM, just not when protesters take the opportunity to destroy businesses and loot and block emergency vehicles like ambulances
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Anti-245
12/11/18 5:22:04 PM
#145:


catboy0_0 posted...
let me address it more appropriately. You say a centrist sees actual nazi's, antifa, and BLM protesters as the same. What I don't agree with is that Antifa is not really just fighting neo nazis, they are fighting the establishment. Unless you really believe in anarchy, it's rather foolish to call anyone not far left nazis

That's bs and you know it. Antifa is an ANTI-Fascist group. They're concerned with fascism no matter where it comes from. They have yet to cause "anarchy" but fascists have before and will again if anyone lets them. They'll use society's laws and tolerance to destroy it.
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:22:16 PM
#146:


A_Good_Boy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Antifa weren't the only ones mentioned in that picture. Don't know if you noticed.

I did notice thanks. I was talking about Antifa.

You do realize you're just unironically conforming to that meme, don't you?

it's stupid and misrepresents reality

You're literally doing it right now, so it doesn't.

do you know what a Nazi is?
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:23:20 PM
#147:


Anti-245 posted...
That's bs and you know it. Antifa is an ANTI-Fascist group. They're concerned with fascism no matter where it comes from. They have yet to cause "anarchy" but fascists have before and will again if anyone lets them. They'll use society's laws and tolerance to destroy it.

it's not though. maybe the original intent was pure, but they're just about as loony as the proud boys
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Anti-245
12/11/18 5:23:50 PM
#148:


catboy0_0 posted...
Also I like BLM, just not when protesters take the opportunity to destroy businesses and loot and block emergency vehicles like ambulances

That's also bs. No where have blm, a decentralized organization, promoted riots as a form of protest against police terror. What you're seeing is the tipping point of a decades long frustration from blacks about police violence.
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AlephZero
12/11/18 5:24:21 PM
#149:


the democratic republic of the congo is democratic, it's in the name
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catboy0_0
12/11/18 5:24:31 PM
#150:


Anti-245 posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Also I like BLM, just not when protesters take the opportunity to destroy businesses and loot and block emergency vehicles like ambulances

That's also bs. No where have blm, a decentralized organization, promoted riots as a form of protest against police terror. What you're seeing is the tipping point of a decades long frustration from blacks about police violence.

oh boy, you're serious aren't you
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A_Good_Boy
12/11/18 5:25:04 PM
#151:


catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Antifa weren't the only ones mentioned in that picture. Don't know if you noticed.

I did notice thanks. I was talking about Antifa.

You do realize you're just unironically conforming to that meme, don't you?

it's stupid and misrepresents reality

You're literally doing it right now, so it doesn't.

do you know what a Nazi is?

You do realize you're still just conforming to the meme yet again, don't you?
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