Board 8 > there is so much that is cringey about the castlevania show

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Snrkiko
12/23/18 3:08:08 AM
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the writing, the drab and mumbling voice acting, the pacing

but i can't stop watching it
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CaptainOfCrush
12/23/18 3:20:14 AM
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Yeah, if this was a generic anime that someone recommended as "one of the best ever", I'd think they were out of their mind - but it's a (seemingly) bid budget animated adaption of an ancient video game series that has no right being made in 2017. I still can't believe this exists, and that might be the main reason I fucking love it.
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 3:40:11 AM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Yeah, if this was a generic anime that someone recommended as "one of the best ever", I'd think they were out of their mind - but it's a (seemingly) bid budget animated adaption of an ancient video game series that has no right being made in 2017. I still can't believe this exists, and that might be the main reason I fucking love it.

3 episodes into season 2 and nothing has happened lmao
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CaptainOfCrush
12/23/18 3:44:21 AM
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It definitely picks up; I was surprised by some later developments.
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 3:46:20 AM
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the show definitely does interesting things that i am a fan of

i just wish they had a better writer or at least better voice director because the delivery of pretty much every line seems to be "bored bordering on depressed"
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Samurai7
12/23/18 7:57:57 AM
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I don't understand your perception at all. Their are definitely some weird voice actors.... (looking at you godbrand), but your description is alien to me.
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SeabassDebeste
12/23/18 9:31:09 AM
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i couls barely get through episode 1 and dropped it then

heard good enough stuff about S2 and it's short enough that i'd be interested in powering through

this topic hasn't done much to persuade me though. words are as empty as its soul :(
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GANON1025
12/23/18 10:49:22 AM
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What? The show is awesome
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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 11:01:17 AM
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This is such a bizarre alternate timeline topic.

"Better writer", it's Warren fucking Ellis.
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lordjers
12/23/18 11:26:06 AM
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It's awesome until the last 2 episodes.
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GANON1025
12/23/18 11:28:24 AM
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lordjers posted...
It's awesome until the last 2 episodes.


LapisLazuli posted...
This is such a bizarre alternate timeline topic..

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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 11:31:33 AM
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lordjers posted...
It's awesome until the last 2 episodes.


What??

What is HAPPENING here?
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 11:32:05 AM
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LapisLazuli posted...
This is such a bizarre alternate timeline topic.

"Better writer", it's Warren fucking Ellis.

i dunno who he is but that doesn't change the fact that this show has a LOT more exposition than it needs. also that vamp chick has bitched about manchildren, animals, and crazy old men at least 15 times in the last 3 episodes i watched. it's her entire character. that's not good writing.

like i said, the show has its moments but there's a lot that falls flat. some of that would have been helped by better voice actors/voice direction. some of it is just boring.
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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 11:33:14 AM
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The excellent VA work is one of it's strongest points.
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lordjers
12/23/18 11:34:04 AM
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The last 2 episodes is when they forget it's an adaptation of CV3 and not SotN. They also try too hard at twisting the lore, and then there is Hector.
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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 11:36:16 AM
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...You're mad that the adaptation isn't direct enough...to Castlevania?
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GANON1025
12/23/18 11:37:35 AM
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I think it was obvious this wasn't going to a straight adaptation of 3 as soon as Grant was not going to be in it.
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 11:38:56 AM
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LapisLazuli posted...
The excellent VA work is one of it's strongest points.

HARD disagree
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 11:45:56 AM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
i couls barely get through episode 1 and dropped it then

heard good enough stuff about S2 and it's short enough that i'd be interested in powering through

this topic hasn't done much to persuade me though. words are as empty as its soul :(

it's worth watching and there are some cool action sequences
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lordjers
12/23/18 11:52:48 AM
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LapisLazuli posted...
...You're mad that the adaptation isn't direct enough...to Castlevania?


Yeah I mean it hasn't been straight since episode 1. And then there's stuff concerning the whole universe and not just one game. Like, the basics. And don't forget the SotN worship. They didn't leave much if they do a SotN adaptation.
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Pirateking2000
12/23/18 12:19:04 PM
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The VA for Drac (who did Dante from Dante's Inferno) is great what are you talking about?
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SeabassDebeste
12/23/18 12:24:03 PM
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Snrkiko posted...
it's worth watching and there are some cool action sequences

alright, if there's sufficient internet/power outlets on the long bus ride i might try to force myself through more of CV S1 instead of just watching B99!
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scarletspeed7
12/23/18 12:27:04 PM
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I live in a world where Warren Ellis delivers too much exposition? Next I'm going to hear that Grant Morrison panders to a casual audience.
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 12:32:35 PM
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Pirateking2000 posted...
The VA for Drac (who did Dante from Dante's Inferno) is great what are you talking about?

my main beef is with trevor, alucard, the priest dude, and godbrand. dracula and sipher are mostly fine
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 12:32:58 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
I live in a world where Warren Ellis delivers too much exposition? Next I'm going to hear that Grant Morrison panders to a casual audience.

i want to know what kind of tone im supposed to be reading this in
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Shaduln
12/23/18 12:39:34 PM
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The opinions in this topic confuse and frustrate me.
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scarletspeed7
12/23/18 12:41:34 PM
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Snrkiko posted...
Pirateking2000 posted...
The VA for Drac (who did Dante from Dante's Inferno) is great what are you talking about?

my main beef is with trevor, alucard, the priest dude, and godbrand. dracula and sipher are mostly fine

I'm guessing you watch a ton of anime and not a lot of live-action television? The show is very toned down from what I consider the normally over-the-top goofiness of anime voice acting, and I think a lot of that has to do with casting excellent stage and screen performers. You listed three very successful actors as ones you don't like, and I think the commonality is that they don't hamfist the performances like most anime. At least for me, someone who has tried countless times to enjoy anime and found that, most of the time, the story can't outwrite the acting. I know this isn't true anime, but it does have an eastern influence, and it's one of the rare shows of its nature I found at all enjoyable because the performances weren't beating my head in with a ballpeen hammer approach rather than a scalpel approach.

It's cool if you just enjoy a different style of television. Try as I might, I have difficulty enjoying that anime style in general. I think it's because I've been reared in western television and so that style resonates the most.
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GuessMyUserName
12/23/18 1:01:06 PM
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i very rarely agree with ltm but i don't know what this topic is
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ninkendo
12/23/18 4:16:19 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
The excellent VA work is one of it's strongest points.

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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 4:23:18 PM
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Hold my bag I need to go be mad that the 2020 Netflix Contra series didn't include every boss and changed what weapon C did.
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scarletspeed7
12/23/18 4:28:09 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Hold my bag I need to go be mad that the 2020 Netflix Contra series didn't include every boss and changed what weapon C did.

The Diddy Kong Racing movie didn't include Darkwater Beach and therefore it is clearly the worst musical adaptation of a video game in 2023 and that includes the utterly atrocious Luigi's Mansion production made by the creators of Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark.
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Xiahou Shake
12/23/18 4:30:00 PM
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Season 1 is very whatever but season 2 is stunningly good in pretty much every way. Don't know what to make of this topic other than feeling bad that you can't enjoy something so awesome.
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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 4:36:40 PM
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I'm glad I'm not alone in being baffled that this topic even exists as such and that it got those first few responses.
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 5:04:07 PM
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Xiahou Shake posted...
Season 1 is very whatever but season 2 is stunningly good in pretty much every way. Don't know what to make of this topic other than feeling bad that you can't enjoy something so awesome.

are you people really going to sit there and tell me i needed to be beat over the head with the background of hector and what'shisface for three episodes and to have the vampire chick harp on and on for the first half of season 2 about how unhappy she is with everyone in the castle but herself?

also i never said i wasn't enjoying it, i've actually told someone else in this topic to watch it because it's still a good time despite my issues with it.

did ltm's drama infect everyone else in this thread or what
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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 5:07:13 PM
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Snrkiko posted...
are you people really going to sit there and tell me i needed to be beat over the head with the background of hector and what'shisface and to have the vampire chick harp on and on about how unhappy she is with everyone in the castle but herself?


All that stuff is good.
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 5:08:25 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Snrkiko posted...
are you people really going to sit there and tell me i needed to be beat over the head with the background of hector and what'shisface and to have the vampire chick harp on and on about how unhappy she is with everyone in the castle but herself?


All that stuff is good.

All that stuff is paced horribly
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Shaduln
12/23/18 5:08:42 PM
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LtM can be right every now and then.
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ninkendo
12/23/18 5:08:49 PM
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I like hector because curse of darkness is rad although I'm not crazy yet about his portrayal here
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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 5:09:13 PM
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Shaduln posted...
LtM can be right every now and then.


Somehow.
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Shaduln
12/23/18 5:20:17 PM
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Broken clock etc etc
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LapisLazuli
12/23/18 5:21:51 PM
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Which means there has to be at least one other occasion. Choose wisely.
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SeabassDebeste
12/23/18 5:24:01 PM
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well when i tried watching i made a topic asking if there was anything i was missing - i also had issues with the voice-acting and just generally how seriously the show were taking an inherently camp concept - and i thought i was in the twilight zone with how everyone thought i was trolling

it was utterly bizarre and made me not really want to post about stuff like this. also made me not want to continue watching.
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Snrkiko
12/23/18 5:30:07 PM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
well when i tried watching i made a topic asking if there was anything i was missing - i also had issues with the voice-acting and just generally how seriously the show were taking an inherently camp concept - and i thought i was in the twilight zone with how everyone thought i was trolling

it was utterly bizarre and made me not really want to post about stuff like this. also made me not want to continue watching.

i think ltm got access to the air vents
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neonreaper
12/23/18 5:32:05 PM
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It was really good. S1 was kinda poor but S2 was excellent.
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UF8
12/23/18 6:55:40 PM
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Shaduln posted...
The opinions in this topic confuse and frustrate me.
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htaeD
12/23/18 7:06:38 PM
#46:


s1 was fine, but felt more like an opening to a story instead of a full one. Also the monster designs were dull.. They got better in s2.

Season2 was great, but suffered a bit from the forced doubled length here and there.
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lordjers
12/23/18 7:06:39 PM
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ninkendo posted...
I like hector because curse of darkness is rad although I'm not crazy yet about his portrayal here


Yeah at first I was amazed that they included CoD. Isaac was even more interesting than in the game. But then Hector was treated pretty much like a b****, then I was it's OK, he's got a plan. Maybe he's not quite the combatant yet, but he's smart. Nope, he literally ended like Carmilla's b****, dragged around and everything, with not an ounce of fight in him.
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UF8
12/23/18 7:17:31 PM
#48:


Personal view s1 was v good but held back by its length and somewhat underwhelming conclusion

S2 was kinda funky but I enjoyed it. writing wasn't the best but it made the conclusion (well, more like the prelude to the conclusion) that much more satisfying so it's all good
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redrocket
12/23/18 7:44:07 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Snrkiko posted...
Pirateking2000 posted...
The VA for Drac (who did Dante from Dante's Inferno) is great what are you talking about?

my main beef is with trevor, alucard, the priest dude, and godbrand. dracula and sipher are mostly fine

I'm guessing you watch a ton of anime and not a lot of live-action television? The show is very toned down from what I consider the normally over-the-top goofiness of anime voice acting, and I think a lot of that has to do with casting excellent stage and screen performers. You listed three very successful actors as ones you don't like, and I think the commonality is that they don't hamfist the performances like most anime. At least for me, someone who has tried countless times to enjoy anime and found that, most of the time, the story can't outwrite the acting. I know this isn't true anime, but it does have an eastern influence, and it's one of the rare shows of its nature I found at all enjoyable because the performances weren't beating my head in with a ballpeen hammer approach rather than a scalpel approach.

It's cool if you just enjoy a different style of television. Try as I might, I have difficulty enjoying that anime style in general. I think it's because I've been reared in western television and so that style resonates the most.


This was a pretty good post I was legit hoping for a response to.
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ClyTheCool
12/23/18 9:02:17 PM
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Iv only seen the beginning scene in the tavern where some dudes ranted about the Belmonts and then picked a fight with drunk Trevor, but it sucked ass. It definitely made me not interested in seeing the rest of the show. Hard agree with all of the early posts about about how cringey everything is and how bad and mumbley the voice acting is.

It could definitely get better though. To the people that think the show was awesome, did you think it did improve later on or did you think the tavern scene was good too?
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