Current Events > Final fantasy 7 gameplay revealed

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PS4 is only getting episode 1 lmao. Will be a simultaneous launch on ps4 and ps5, but episode 2 and 3 will be next gen exclusives
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thanks-gohan posted...

zero fun mashing X in modern action RPGs.

yeah it's not fun at all, it's such a lazy way for RPGs to have combat
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If Tifa doesn't have huge tits then this was all for nothing.
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kingdom fart combat = SHIt
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The best part about ff7 was the materia system, not sure how they can translate that feeling into an action game.
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Vyrulisse posted...

Sticking with the shit combat I see

Nah, they moved on from it.
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It looks like straight up ass if you disagree than you are a fool.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

Damn, so many doomsayers ITT

The gameplay looks like it has potential, never played XV so I can't compare but if it's anything like Crisis Core or Type-0, I'm down with it. If I want to play turn-based, I'll play the original. Gimme something new.

They've made lots of new stuff. The whole point is to revisit the old stuff.

If it's not turn-based, it raises the question of how this is even a remake at all. It's one thing to change a couple of rules here and there, but something like this is way too fundamental.

For a remake, you want to expand instead. Add new materia, new limit breaks, new side quests, new dialog, new items, new minigames, etc. You also want to touch up a few things, like if anything needs rebalancing or you want to fix the W-Item glitch.
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Parappa09 posted...

kkTheKiller42 posted...

oh great, it looks like FFXV where enemies don't or barely stun.

i got strong FFXV vibes as well

i mean i'm not surprised that they scrapped turn based since it's probably boring for modern day gaming. but i do prefer it

The switch has plenty of turn based games now and many of them do well. Not to mention Persona 5's success. The demand is becoming higher than before. I am pretty sure a FFXVI with a turn based system would sell like hotcakes.
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DevsBro posted...

For a remake, you want to expand instead. Add new materia, new limit breaks, new side quests, new dialog, new items, new minigames, etc. You also want to touch up a few things, like if anything needs rebalancing or you want to fix the W-Item glitch.

Absolutely not, they need actual classes. Rpg's where everybody can do everything are wack, there is no point to it strategically as people will just do what's convenient instead of making tough calls.
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Don't like it? Don't play it. It's that simple.
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Looking forward to the Cloud in a dress scene
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Makeveli_lives posted...

DevsBro posted...

For a remake, you want to expand instead. Add new materia, new limit breaks, new side quests, new dialog, new items, new minigames, etc. You also want to touch up a few things, like if anything needs rebalancing or you want to fix the W-Item glitch.

Absolutely not, they need actual classes. Rpg's where everybody can do everything are wack, there is no point to it strategically as people will just do what's convenient instead of making tough calls.

I mean, that might be on the table too, if it's an expansion and/or balance thing. I do agree that that was one of 7's shortcomings.
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Changing the combat is fine but if they make it anything like FF15 I'm going to vomit
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thanks-gohan posted...

This is like the 80th time I've heard this stupid argument and I've yet to have anyone explain how the hell this is true

Did you play ff7? You normal attack everything but bosses. It's not worth the time to go through the menus to do anything else. Let alone waste the mp.

And if you over level, which is easy to do, you can normal attack the bosses too
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thanks-gohan posted...

I Like Toast posted...

thanks-gohan posted...

This is like the 80th time I've heard this stupid argument and I've yet to have anyone explain how the hell this is true

Did you play ff7? You normal attack everything but bosses. It's not worth the time to go through the menus to do anything else. Let alone waste the mp.

And if you over level, which is easy to do, you can normal attack the bosses too

If you normal attack everything you're not even going to get past the first boss unless you spend hours grinding.

So clearly you didn't even play the game.

Look just because you don't understand how to set up your materia to make your normal attacks ridiculous doesn't mean nobody does.

You can also set up an elaborate mime / counter where you just do nothing and then the enemy attacks you and you counter with KOTR 16 times.
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Will be editing Aerith to Aeris

thanks-gohan posted...

I Like Toast posted...

thanks-gohan posted...

This is like the 80th time I've heard this stupid argument and I've yet to have anyone explain how the hell this is true

Did you play ff7? You normal attack everything but bosses. It's not worth the time to go through the menus to do anything else. Let alone waste the mp.

And if you over level, which is easy to do, you can normal attack the bosses too

If you normal attack everything you're not even going to get past the first boss unless you spend hours grinding.

So clearly you didn't even play the game.

The first boss? What hard mode version of the game are you playing that you can't just use normal attacks against the first boss? Maybe some of the tougher bosses a few hours in would give you some trouble, but the Guard Scorpion is barely even a fight.
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Trumpo posted...

Will be editing Aerith to Aeris

Except you wont.

I wonder why people seem to think any of the main FF games required any major strategy beyond Basic Attacks, attack elemental weakness, Super attacks and heal

There's like a few dozen bosses across 15 games that require a decent strategy that isn't a straight up gimmick fight.

Typically, your gear and stats are more important

thanks-gohan posted...

KeeperOfShadows posted...

thanks-gohan posted...

I Like Toast posted...

thanks-gohan posted...

This is like the 80th time I've heard this stupid argument and I've yet to have anyone explain how the hell this is true

Did you play ff7? You normal attack everything but bosses. It's not worth the time to go through the menus to do anything else. Let alone waste the mp.

And if you over level, which is easy to do, you can normal attack the bosses too

If you normal attack everything you're not even going to get past the first boss unless you spend hours grinding.

So clearly you didn't even play the game.

The first boss? What hard mode version of the game are you playing that you can't just use normal attacks against the first boss? Maybe some of the tougher bosses a few hours in would give you some trouble, but the Guard Scorpion is barely even a fight.

Try mashing X against Guard Scorpion and see where his tail gets you

Obviously you're not literally mashing the button nonstop. Even in actual button mashers, there are moments where you have to stop.
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thanks-gohan posted...

KeeperOfShadows posted...

thanks-gohan posted...

I Like Toast posted...

thanks-gohan posted...

This is like the 80th time I've heard this stupid argument and I've yet to have anyone explain how the hell this is true

Did you play ff7? You normal attack everything but bosses. It's not worth the time to go through the menus to do anything else. Let alone waste the mp.

And if you over level, which is easy to do, you can normal attack the bosses too

If you normal attack everything you're not even going to get past the first boss unless you spend hours grinding.

So clearly you didn't even play the game.

The first boss? What hard mode version of the game are you playing that you can't just use normal attacks against the first boss? Maybe some of the tougher bosses a few hours in would give you some trouble, but the Guard Scorpion is barely even a fight.

Try mashing X against Guard Scorpion and see where his tail gets you

lmao when did he say mash x?
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Overhyped trash getting a remake.
Its not even the best rpg on ps1, let alone the best final fantasy game on ps1.

If the street walker in pink hadn't died nobody would give a shit.

thanks-gohan posted...

Follow the quote chains. Keep up.

The whole quote chain is in that post. Where did he say mash x?
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The random battles in FF7 are basically a formality but you are making it harder on yourself if you dont use the materia system as intended.

You can break the materia system, but you can break pretty much any FF system. It requires meta knowledge though, and most new players arent going to be doing a 4x KotR on Sephiroth on their first playthrough
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AlisLandale posted...

The random battles in FF7 are basically a formality but you are making it harder on yourself if you dont use the materia system as intended.

You can break the materia system, but you can break pretty much any FF system. It requires meta knowledge though, and most new players arent going to be doing a 4x KotR on Sephiroth on their first playthrough

1x KOTR is enough to kill him unless you grind to level 100 which unlocks a harder version
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thanks-gohan posted...

You mean you used strategy to setup battle tactics instead of mashing X?

Wow!

Yeah, I don't get this argument.

"The combat sucks because I can set things up to make the most braindead solution effective."

Yeah, you have to set it up and get the right materia. Which requires effort in the first place. It's like those people who said Xenoblade 2's combat sucks because "you can just not do anything at all and have auto-attack do the work" when you need an end-game build to do something like that. And battles take forever and you literally can't do that against superbosses since after half health they enrage and start hitting like a truck.
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Banjo2553 posted...

thanks-gohan posted...

You mean you used strategy to setup battle tactics instead of mashing X?

Wow!

Yeah, I don't get this argument.

"The combat sucks because I can set things up to make the most braindead solution effective."

Yeah, you have to set it up and get the right materia. Which requires effort in the first place. It's like those people who said Xenoblade 2's combat sucks because "you can just not do anything at all and have auto-attack do the work" when you need an end-game build to do something like that. And battles take forever and you literally can't do that against superbosses since after half health they enrage and start hitting like a truck.

Nerds forget your average players dont have cheap setups and builds ready to go for the games.
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Can't wait to build a new Gummy Ship with Cid.
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thanks-gohan posted...

If you normal attack everything you're not even going to get past the first boss unless you spend hours grinding

I Like Toast posted...

You normal attack everything but bosses.

Also you only have bolt 1 and limit breaks for the first boss you can quite easily normal attack it down.

thanks-gohan posted...

Follow the quote chains. Keep up.

Irony
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Always wanted to play Final Fanta-

episodic

lmao
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