Board 8 > New Super Smash Bros. update tonight will add VR functionality

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Grand Kirby
05/30/19 7:14:13 PM
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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/smash-bros-ultimate-adding-vr-support-with-new-upd/1100-6467258

Hopefully now you can be Doriyah'd in first person view or something.
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ninkendo
05/30/19 7:17:55 PM
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VR troopers confirmed for smash ultimate
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CelesMyUserName
05/30/19 7:24:26 PM
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wat
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ZenOfThunder
05/30/19 7:48:23 PM
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i forgot they made that vr labo kit. does anyone have it? what even works with it?
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ZenOfThunder
05/30/19 7:49:14 PM
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also Tekken has a VR mode i think and it just makes you more like a "spectator" although I hear it's ass to actually play it like that, it was just some marketing gimmick riding the popularity of VR
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JonThePenguin
05/30/19 7:53:38 PM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
i forgot they made that vr labo kit. does anyone have it? what even works with it?

Mario and Zelda both patched in compatibility. Apparently the Mario one is more unique (I dont recall exactly what it is though) while the Zelda one is just playing the game way closer to your face than normal and also with your hands up by your head the whole time because thats how the Labo kit is set up.

ZenOfThunder posted...
some marketing gimmick riding the popularity of VR

Oh you already described it.
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RPGlord95
05/30/19 8:10:10 PM
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I want @MrSmartGuy to Falcon Punch me in first person
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Meow1000
05/30/19 8:32:05 PM
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I'm trying to fathom how this is even a thing

Like how does this work for Smash
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skullbone
05/30/19 8:33:05 PM
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Meow1000 posted...
I'm trying to fathom how this is even a thing

Like how does this work for Smash


Judging on the recent VR additions for Odyssey and Breath of the Wild, very poorly.
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CelesMyUserName
05/30/19 8:38:46 PM
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JonThePenguin posted...
and also with your hands up by your head the whole time because thats how the Labo kit is set up.

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ZenOfThunder
05/30/19 8:39:32 PM
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i wish developers would stop pandering to dumb gimmicks. let vr games be vr games. Smash is not meant for vs. Use those resources for something else.

nobody is going to go out and buy smash just because they hear it has VR

and they shouldn't have made a dumb labo VR set to begin with, that way they wouldn't feel obligated to add compatible software for a thing that almost nobody has or wants
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CelesMyUserName
05/30/19 8:41:02 PM
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labo VR is redeemed the very moment they announce Pokemon Snap 2
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LeonhartFour
05/30/19 8:41:46 PM
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CelesMyUserName posted...
labo VR is redeemed the very moment they announce Pokemon Snap 2


unfortunately everyone in the business meeting heard them wrong and now we're getting Pokemon Nap instead
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ZenOfThunder
05/30/19 8:42:07 PM
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CelesMyUserName posted...
labo VR is redeemed the very moment they announce Pokemon Snap 2


actually this is a labo selling machine, nintendo please hire user CelesMyUserName
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-hotdogturtle--
05/30/19 8:42:23 PM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
nobody is going to go out and buy smash just because they hear it has VR

No but people will go out and buy VR just because they hear that Smash has it.
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Meow1000
05/30/19 8:49:17 PM
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skullbone posted...
Meow1000 posted...
I'm trying to fathom how this is even a thing

Like how does this work for Smash


Judging on the recent VR additions for Odyssey and Breath of the Wild, very poorly.

Which is still somehow better than I imagine it working for Smash
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TheCodeisBosco
05/30/19 8:49:53 PM
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Does anyone know how Labo VR has performed in the States? It appears to have bombed in the UK, according to the articles I found, but I haven't heard anything definite about American sales.
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skullbone
05/30/19 8:52:14 PM
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Meow1000 posted...
skullbone posted...
Meow1000 posted...
I'm trying to fathom how this is even a thing

Like how does this work for Smash


Judging on the recent VR additions for Odyssey and Breath of the Wild, very poorly.

Which is still somehow better than I imagine it working for Smash


Well at least Smash has a fixed camera for the most part. It'll probably just feel like you're watching your toys fight each other
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ZenOfThunder
05/30/19 9:26:50 PM
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Grand Kirby
05/30/19 11:15:15 PM
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ZenOfThunder posted...

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/45405

patch notes

Looks like they patched out the tech that let Luigi have infinite invincibility. We knew it wouldn't last long.

Oh geez, they also hard nerfed Ice Climbers so prevent grab to meteor smash combos.
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ZenOfThunder
05/30/19 11:17:15 PM
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they patched out two methods for Ice Climbers to desync which is gonna completely fuck over the few people who play as them still

also HUGE nerfs for Pichu and some for Peach who iirc was the top tier character

Bayo and Mac getting decent buffs, probably not enough to save Mac but maybe we'll be seeing a Bayo closer to 4 now?

can't think of any other really notable changes right now. happy Lucario got a lot of love.
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Haste_2
05/30/19 11:29:32 PM
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VR might be nice for replays.

How dare they nerf Pichu!
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Grand Kirby
05/30/19 11:41:11 PM
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They also added Final Smash meter to Preferred rules, which I found out the hard way because I never get the rules I want
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ExThaNemesis
05/30/19 11:41:38 PM
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absolute stupidity to already nerf Pichu lmao
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jcgamer107
05/31/19 12:15:20 AM
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They knocked his ass back down to Melee Pichu loooollll
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mnkboy907
05/31/19 12:45:09 AM
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Lots of buffs for Lucario.

Sadly nothing for Robin. :(
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GuessMyUserName
05/31/19 12:46:32 AM
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aww yeah shulk only buffed, all i need
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ExThaNemesis
05/31/19 12:48:52 AM
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jcgamer107 posted...
They knocked his ass back down to Melee Pichu loooollll


This is such a fucking joke

I hope everyone who complained about him [redacted].

Hate this community.
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MysticBrohan
05/31/19 1:02:50 AM
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can i get a god damn charizard buff jesus christ
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theawesomestevr
05/31/19 1:10:10 AM
#30:


ZenOfThunder posted...
they patched out two methods for Ice Climbers to desync which is gonna completely fuck over the few people who play as them still

also HUGE nerfs for Pichu and some for Peach who iirc was the top tier character

Bayo and Mac getting decent buffs, probably not enough to save Mac but maybe we'll be seeing a Bayo closer to 4 now?

can't think of any other really notable changes right now. happy Lucario got a lot of love.

Diddy Kong got pretty significant buffs (he can actually recover now!), Olimar got nerfs (up smash vulnerability and recovery seems important), Ryu, Ken, Roslina and Luma, and Bowser Jr. got buffs (I don't play these characters or know much about how they used to be; not sure how much they matter).

Lucina got nerfed, but not significantly and Captain Falcon has gotten some small buffs.

Overall, seems like good balance changes, though it may have made Pichu objectively worse than Pikachu, now.

EDIT: Oh, and somehow forgot Wolf who received nerfs to his laser, up-B, and down smash, but got a potentially significant buff to his reflector.
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theawesomestevr
05/31/19 1:11:09 AM
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The most important thing that I forgot to mention is that the online is still ultra-trash and not worth playing, but at least you can now search for matches with the final smash meter in quickplay!
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GuessMyUserName
05/31/19 1:11:37 AM
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sakurai should nerf peach but keep daisy

he did say that their online win rates are inexplicably far off!
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 1:12:43 AM
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Pichu got slaughtered, he deserved a nerf but that's pretty brutal
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LOLIAmAnAlt
05/31/19 1:19:31 AM
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This topic changed gears really fast
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Leafeon13N
05/31/19 1:30:44 AM
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Fuck yeah buffs.
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-hotdogturtle--
05/31/19 1:58:38 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
jcgamer107 posted...
They knocked his ass back down to Melee Pichu loooollll


This is such a fucking joke

I hope everyone who complained about him [redacted].

Hate this community.

Blame Sakurai for basing his balance changes on social media reactions.
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ZenOfThunder
05/31/19 8:48:40 AM
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didn't sakurai say that most characters' win/loss ratio was about even around launch? I wonder if something changed significantly (like people started figuring out how to break certain characters) or if the playerbase dropping off started swinging thing towards certain characters

either way some of the nerfs seem pretty brutal
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 9:20:58 AM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
didn't sakurai say that most characters' win/loss ratio was about even around launch? I wonder if something changed significantly (like people started figuring out how to break certain characters) or if the playerbase dropping off started swinging thing towards certain characters

either way some of the nerfs seem pretty brutal

This was accurate as of Jan 31:

Sakurai revealed that in 1-on-1 Online Battles, win rates for each character range between 40% and 54%.

In Elite Smash, win rates for characters ranged between 43.7% and 56.8% overall, bringing the gap slightly closer.

He also says 90% of characters have a win rate of around 45%.

King K Rools Win Rate in Online Battles is 51.9%. In Elite Smash, this drops to 48.9%.

Peach has a Win Rate of 54.4% whereas Daisy has a Win Rate of just 50.9%. This is despite the two characters working largely the same as each other.

Cloud is the most used character overall. However, Ganondorf is the most used character in Elite Smash. However, this doesnt mean hes the best- his win rate is only 47.9%.

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KommunistKoala
05/31/19 11:17:11 AM
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sakurai doesnt do the balancing lol
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XIII_rocks
05/31/19 11:19:42 AM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
Smash is not meant for vs.


Well this is breaking news to me
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Grand Kirby
05/31/19 2:20:27 PM
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It's obvious they only pay attention to Elite Smash when choosing what to rebalance. That's why the last patch had so many nerfs to projectiles and rolling.
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 2:26:38 PM
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The recent balance patch lined up almost perfectly with competitive opinions (nerfing top tiers and buffing bottom tiers), so I'm not so sure about that.
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SantaRPidgey
05/31/19 2:36:19 PM
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If they patch in turning off stages in quickplay I'll buy smash online and play it non stop

playing nothing but battlefield is boring but the alternative is getting sent to Venom/Electroplankton/Duck Hunt repeatedly.

Also take the shark out of the animal crossing beach island level. Whoever put that shark there should be fed to an actual literal shark.
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 2:39:24 PM
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I actually dislike Battlefield in Ultimate. The platform placement is really bad and makes camping super easy. Final Destination is the better alternative. Wish you could play some of the other ones like Pokemon Stadium.
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Jakyl25
05/31/19 2:41:00 PM
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Reminder that theres a new Peachette spirit to get this weekend.

I am very close to my goal of having every one of every Primary Spirit, all knowing every Style, and all at Level 99
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JonThePenguin
05/31/19 3:08:36 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Reminder that theres a new Peachette spirit to get this weekend.

Thanks for the heads-up.

What are the other new spirits theyve added? Ive been a little out since the Lets Go Pikachu/Eevee ones.
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mnkboy907
05/31/19 3:25:52 PM
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JonThePenguin posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Reminder that theres a new Peachette spirit to get this weekend.

Thanks for the heads-up.

What are the other new spirits theyve added? Ive been a little out since the Lets Go Pikachu/Eevee ones.

They added some Labo ones like a month or so ago.
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ZenOfThunder
05/31/19 4:49:47 PM
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XIII_rocks posted...
ZenOfThunder posted...
Smash is not meant for vs.


Well this is breaking news to me


bring back SSE
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LeonhartFour
05/31/19 5:47:13 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Cloud is the most used character overall.


Cloud for CBXI champ confirmed
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ZenOfThunder
05/31/19 6:23:03 PM
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or will people anti-vote cloud cuz they're sick of seeing him and his two music tracks and his remake he's never gonna get
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