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Veggeta_EDGE
06/03/19 1:00:49 PM
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https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1135027574663462912

Andy is Mexican-American BTW. Do you think Stephen A's remarks were a bit racist?
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eston
06/03/19 1:02:12 PM
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MC_BatCommander
06/03/19 1:02:49 PM
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Why would it be racist? Butterbean is a person
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UnfairRepresent
06/03/19 1:03:04 PM
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Wasn't Butter Bean a famous fat boxer known for powerful KO punches?
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brestugo
06/03/19 1:03:27 PM
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eston posted...
Butter Bean is the name of a famous boxer

Thank you.

On topic, I'd hate to see how fat Ruiz would've been if he didn't train.
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Jagr_68
06/03/19 1:03:53 PM
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TC failed miserably with this flopic
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Swagnificent119
06/03/19 1:04:22 PM
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Butterbean star of jackass the movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZcWcvfvv4k" data-time="

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chrono625
06/03/19 1:04:55 PM
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Lmao you just know there are going to be people who dont get there is a butter bean and will just see the bean and say it was racist.
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cavalierking
06/03/19 1:05:30 PM
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dude's crazy articulate, but having to hear his obnoxiously confrontational voice on every broadcast is the worst part of sportscenter for me
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brestugo
06/03/19 1:05:31 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Wasn't Butter Bean a famous fat boxer known for powerful KO punches?

I'd call him more of a club fighter, but he did fight professionally and knocked a lot of journeyman mofos out. I think he even fought Tyson once.
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Veggeta X
06/03/19 1:05:55 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
TC failed miserably with this flopic

Not at all. I saw some people getting offended over the term and wanted to share it on CE. I was a bit surprised about the term personally but wanted to have an open mind about it since, as dreadful as Stephen A is, he would never say anything offensive like that. This has been quite educational.
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brestugo
06/03/19 1:06:39 PM
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cavalierking posted...
dude's crazy articulate, but hearing his voice everyday is the worst part of sportscenter for me

I may be in the minority but all that hollering is annoying. He sounds like a broke Al Sharpton.
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Swagnificent119
06/03/19 1:08:44 PM
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Butterbean fought at a roadhouse in my bumfuck nowhere town ten years ago and I missed it cause I was away for work.
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BuckVanHammer
06/03/19 1:11:46 PM
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ya Stephen Smith is garbage....

i dont think its racist at all. it is a slight tho and he really should be congratulating the guy instead of mocking.
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rabbi_baby
06/03/19 1:12:48 PM
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Coastal_elite
06/03/19 1:13:03 PM
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Veggeta_EDGE posted...
https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1135027574663462912

Andy is Mexican-American BTW. Do you think Stephen A's remarks were a bit racist?


Yeah.... for some reason it's fine to have mexicans in boxing/MMA, and it's fine to have them as champions. But once a mexican wins anything in heavyweight the MAGA crowd gets angry, it happened with Cain Velazquez in the UFC too, they even tried to tap Brock Lesnar to "Make UFC Great Again" (because, blonde hair!) but he got his ass kicked lol
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brestugo
06/03/19 1:15:21 PM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
ya Stephen Smith is garbage....

i dont think its racist at all. it is a slight tho and he really should be congratulating the guy instead of mocking.

It's definitely a (non-racist) slight, but did you see Ruiz? Again, I'd hate to see what he looked like before he "trained". Dude even said Snicker bars were part of his training table. Anyway you're right - kudos to the new champ.
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Veggeta X
06/03/19 1:15:39 PM
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rabbi_baby posted...
And OP was never to be heard from again

Check post 11
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chrono625
06/03/19 1:16:49 PM
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Coastal_elite posted...
Veggeta_EDGE posted...
https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1135027574663462912

Andy is Mexican-American BTW. Do you think Stephen A's remarks were a bit racist?


Yeah.... for some reason it's fine to have mexicans in boxing/MMA, and it's fine to have them as champions. But once a mexican wins anything in heavyweight the MAGA crowd gets angry, it happened with Cain Velazquez in the UFC too, they even tried to tap Brock Lesnar to "Make UFC Great Again" (because, blonde hair!) but he got his ass kicked lol


The guy had butter beans physique.

And butter bean was a brawler and hit like a truck. Ruiz is definitely underrated as a fighter, but he is shaped like butter bean. Not really a bad comparison when it comes to physical build.
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Conception616
06/03/19 1:16:55 PM
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brestugo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Wasn't Butter Bean a famous fat boxer known for powerful KO punches?

I'd call him more of a club fighter, but he did fight professionally and knocked a lot of journeyman mofos out. I think he even fought Tyson once.


No, he never fought Tyson.
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PatrickMahomes
06/03/19 1:17:42 PM
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Stephen A Smith is an actor. He doesn't actually know anything about sports. His job at ESPN is to be loud and argumentative.

Even before the Hunter Henry / Derrick Johnson debacle, he was not to be taken seriously.
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Swagnificent119
06/03/19 1:19:40 PM
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Veggeta X
06/03/19 1:20:27 PM
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brestugo
06/03/19 1:20:59 PM
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Conception616 posted...
brestugo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Wasn't Butter Bean a famous fat boxer known for powerful KO punches?

I'd call him more of a club fighter, but he did fight professionally and knocked a lot of journeyman mofos out. I think he even fought Tyson once.


No, he never fought Tyson.

Thank you for the clarification.
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Swagnificent119
06/03/19 1:23:09 PM
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Lol Sega had a Mike Tyson Punchout Rip off featuring Butterbean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwDHR898nc" data-time="

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Calwings
06/03/19 1:24:25 PM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
ya Stephen Smith is garbage....

i dont think its racist at all. it is a slight tho and he really should be congratulating the guy instead of mocking.

Pretty much this. The Butter Bean comparison is definitely valid based on Ruiz Jr.'s physique and style, and there's nothing racist about this at all. Still disrespectful though by not giving Ruiz credit and instead blaming Anthony Joshua for not being on his game.
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The Admiral
06/03/19 1:26:06 PM
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Not racist at all. It's actually a great comparison in terms of physique and style.
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rabbi_baby
06/03/19 1:26:37 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
And @rabbi_baby was never seen again.

Here I am.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/03/19 1:31:43 PM
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brestugo posted...
BuckVanHammer posted...
ya Stephen Smith is garbage....

i dont think its racist at all. it is a slight tho and he really should be congratulating the guy instead of mocking.

It's definitely a (non-racist) slight, but did you see Ruiz? Again, I'd hate to see what he looked like before he "trained". Dude even said Snicker bars were part of his training table. Anyway you're right - kudos to the new champ.

https://twitter.com/AustinAmpy/status/1135044947692924929

Just because he's a little thick doesn't make him a bad boxer. He had incredible movement.
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spudger
06/03/19 1:36:40 PM
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10 other reporters called him butter bean yesterday
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KillerKhan420
06/03/19 1:40:36 PM
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Stephen A has no boxing knowledge in his head at all. Andy Ruiz obviously showed that AJ wasn't focused on him and more or less just looking for that huge payday against Wilder or fury. I say, if there's a rematch AJ will do his best wladimir impression and win that way in England. That's some shit though, first fight out of England and he loses in spectacular fashion. He knocked down Ruiz in the 3rd and tried going for the kill but didn't realize that knockdown didn't hurt Ruiz as bad as he thought and he paid for it.

Now his bargaining power with Wilder isn't as strong as it once was. Let's see if he can bounce back. He needs to lose that bulk he has on, he's way, WAY too muscular for his frame that it looks like he has chest implants fr. That's also a reason he gassed out and he fought the wrong fight, there's no reason for him to be infighting the smaller man when that's what Ruiz wanted being shorter and having less reach.

Butterbean? Lol he was a tough man champion and was never a real threat to boxers in the 90s. He had a fight with a 50 something year old Larry Holmes and despite knocking him down, got outboxed handily by the old man. He never fought Tyson, bowe, holyfield or Lewis and you wanna know why? He would of got his ass blasted out of the ring by those guys. Even old Foreman would of destroyed him.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
06/03/19 1:42:45 PM
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"Im sick over this. For myself! For fight fans. And especially for Deontay Wilder who shouldve been the one administering this TKO. Im so freakin disgusted right now! I watched the fight 3x. Look, Ruiz is good. Solid boxer. Fast hands. But everyones missing the point: THE FIGHT we were all waiting for Wilder vs. Joshua is officially ruined. No one with sense believes Joshua has a chance vs him now, even if he goes back and beats Ruiz. Hes got a glass jaw. That is the point. Mega fight = Ruined. That is my damn point, ppl. Wake up!"

Couple things:

1 - If Joshua's management hadn't been such pricks, they would have fought already

2 - If Joshua & Wilder had fought and something similar to this happened, chances are people would bitch about that too.
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rabbi_baby
06/03/19 1:45:08 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
Stephen A has no boxing knowledge in his head at all. Andy Ruiz obviously showed that AJ wasn't focused on him and more or less just looking for that huge payday against Wilder or fury. I say, if there's a rematch AJ will do his best wladimir impression and win that way in England. That's some shit though, first fight out of England and he loses in spectacular fashion. He knocked down Ruiz in the 3rd and tried going for the kill but didn't realize that knockdown didn't hurt Ruiz as bad as he thought and he paid for it.

Now his bargaining power with Wilder isn't as strong as it once was. Let's see if he can bounce back. He needs to lose that bulk he has on, he's way, WAY too muscular for his frame that it looks like he has chest implants fr. That's also a reason he gassed out and he fought the wrong fight, there's no reason for him to be infighting the smaller man when that's what Ruiz wanted being shorter and having less reach.

Butterbean? Lol he was a tough man champion and was never a real threat to boxers in the 90s. He had a fight with a 50 something year old Larry Holmes and despite knocking him down, got outboxed handily by the old man. He never fought Tyson, bowe, holyfield or Lewis and you wanna know why? He would of got his ass blasted out of the ring by those guys. Even old Foreman would of destroyed him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_TkJcMZm6s" data-time="

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06/03/19 2:53:55 PM
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Swagnificent119 posted...
Lol Sega had a Mike Tyson Punchout Rip off featuring Butterbean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwDHR898nc" data-time="


this game was great.

Its grainy graphics and general feel is SOOOOO sega genesis. And then there was a 32x port so you could un-genesis it lol
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eston
06/03/19 2:59:30 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
He never fought Tyson

I thought he did
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HagenEx
06/03/19 3:00:21 PM
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That was just typical racist Stephen A. Smith with one of his "kidding but not actually kidding" tweets.

Fact is, Joshua got knocked the fuck out by a dude that looks like a Gabriel Iglesias impersonator.

I watched it live and it was fucking glorious, I was at a bar having some drinks and nobody was really paying attention to the fight, I started jumping whenJoshua went down the first time and everyone looked at the screen at that moment and realized Ruiz was actually winning LOL.
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eston
06/03/19 3:04:03 PM
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HagenEx posted...
That was just typical racist Stephen A. Smith with one of his "kidding but not actually kidding" tweets.

Fact is, Joshua got knocked the fuck out by a dude that looks like a Gabriel Iglesias impersonator.

Calling him a Gabriel Iglesias impersonator actually seems much more racist than calling him Butter Bean tbqh
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Silver Bearings
06/03/19 3:08:39 PM
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It's like Veggeta, but with EDGE.
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HagenEx
06/03/19 3:09:43 PM
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eston posted...
HagenEx posted...
That was just typical racist Stephen A. Smith with one of his "kidding but not actually kidding" tweets.

Fact is, Joshua got knocked the fuck out by a dude that looks like a Gabriel Iglesias impersonator.

Calling him a Gabriel Iglesias impersonator actually seems much more racist than calling him Butter Bean tbqh


They're both Mexican, that's not racist. That would be like me calling Tom Brady a Brett Favre looking motherfucker.

They're practically siblings.
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Smashingpmkns
06/03/19 3:13:12 PM
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Funny how he thinks calling him Butter Bean is an insult, or how its surprising that a "Butter Bean"-like fighter would win. Dude obviously doesn't know much about boxing.
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Paper_Okami
06/03/19 3:18:58 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
Veggeta_EDGE posted...
https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1135027574663462912

Andy is Mexican-American BTW. Do you think Stephen A's remarks were a bit racist?


Yeah.... for some reason it's fine to have mexicans in boxing/MMA, and it's fine to have them as champions. But once a mexican wins anything in heavyweight the MAGA crowd gets angry, it happened with Cain Velazquez in the UFC too, they even tried to tap Brock Lesnar to "Make UFC Great Again" (because, blonde hair!) but he got his ass kicked lol


The guy had butter beans physique.

And butter bean was a brawler and hit like a truck. Ruiz is definitely underrated as a fighter, but he is shaped like butter bean. Not really a bad comparison when it comes to physical build.


i mean a lot of super strong dudes

have fat over their muscle

including the dudes in the World's strongest man competition
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DirkDiggles
06/03/19 3:20:07 PM
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Remember when Butterbean knocked out Bart Gunn at a Wrestlemania with a vicious looking knockout?
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RickyTheBAWSE
06/03/19 3:28:19 PM
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Steven A Smith isn't the only one who noticed that Butterbean style
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brestugo
06/03/19 3:29:42 PM
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eston posted...
KillerKhan420 posted...
He never fought Tyson

I thought he did

I did too. But I can find no record of it - at least on Wikipedia. I remember him in the ring with someone like Tyson, if it wasn't Tyson.
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Bad_Mojo
06/03/19 3:29:58 PM
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eston posted...
Butter Bean is the name of a famous boxer

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brestugo
06/03/19 3:33:46 PM
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Anyway, it's nice to see a boxing thread.
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brestugo
06/03/19 3:56:22 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
Stephen A Smith is an actor. He doesn't actually know anything about sports. His job at ESPN is to be loud and argumentative.



I've actually come to believe this myself.

I'll give him a little credit - he has some NBA connections and a few more connections in other sports here and there. But he's IIRC the highest paid guy at ESPN so of course he gets sources.

I just think he (and others) need to lay off the whole "hot take" angle of reporting.
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RickyTheBAWSE
06/03/19 3:57:39 PM
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brestugo posted...
eston posted...
KillerKhan420 posted...
He never fought Tyson

I thought he did

I did too. But I can find no record of it - at least on Wikipedia. I remember him in the ring with someone like Tyson, if it wasn't Tyson.


wasn't real. there are pictures of them in the ring that some videos use for a thumbnail pic, though. but they never shared the ring like that.
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BuckVanHammer
06/03/19 3:58:48 PM
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brestugo posted...
PatrickMahomes posted...
Stephen A Smith is an actor. He doesn't actually know anything about sports. His job at ESPN is to be loud and argumentative.



I've actually come to believe this myself.

I'll give him a little credit - he has some NBA connections and a few more connections in other sports here and there. But he's IIRC the highest paid guy at ESPN so of course he gets sources.

I just think he (and others) need to lay off the whole "hot take" angle of reporting.

is he really their highest paid person? pathetic if so.
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