Board 8 > [VGMC] d78: Innocence & Emptiness (Baldr Heart) vs Revenger (Crystar), Tie

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Welcome to today's topic for Video Game Music Contest 13, a tournament of the best tracks from games, as decided upon by you, the voters.

Links:
Bracket - http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=471679
Contest info - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17rEeB1_oYWgryWzIxOaZXw2a381gKGnMegjHCG_2OTQ
Discussion and results thread - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77672812
Bracket playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW9O9mntH1RF28glW72G6s_5M1e4kcSxR

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Rules:

- Listen to both of the songs. Links have conveniently been provided for both songs. Even if Song A is your favorite of all-time and Song B is from a series you hate... Listen. To. Both. (If I have suspicions your vote is not based on a fair and impartial preference, it will be disqualified.)
- Obvious contest rules apply (no alts, one vote per person, no rallying, etc.).
- Please make your voting options clear, rather than burying them in text.
- Each set of matches lasts 24 hours, even if the new one isnt up by then.
- Always vote on the versions of the song provided, not versions from different sources.
- If you know ahead of time that you're not going to be around and you want to vote in advance, post your choices in the discussion/bracket topic.
- Please do NOT post tallies/score updates in the middle of the match, as this has a tendency to directly influence matches.
- You don't have to vote in all the matches, but it'd be cool if you did!

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Today's match:

Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TnnPq4AxPU" data-time="

Crystar - Revenger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFCi2UonT4k" data-time="

Tiebreaker:

Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFYBcoXFlME" data-time="

Atelier Ayesha - Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIXJU6jt-Ak" data-time="

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Easy vote form:
Innocence and Emptiness / Revenger
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients / Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

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Song lyric trivia: IMA WAKARE NO TOKI, Hateshinai yukusaki ni bokura yakusoku wo kawasou, Tatoe mou nido to aenai toshite mo <title drop>
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Revenger
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients

Innocence and Emptiness
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Revenger
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
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Revenger
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness
Atelier Ayesha - Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Revenger
Alluring Flower ~ Autumn

Tough call on the main match, I'd be satisfied with either. They're both kind of underdogs to me that I'm starting to want to see win should battle or autumn or chocomissile lose. I don't really expect either to win next round though :/

Revenger
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Innocence and Emptiness
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Yesterday's Opponents are Today's Bonus Match
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Innocence and Emptiness
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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tag
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Crystar - Revenger
Atelier Ayesha - Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Oh hey, I was just listening to the lyric trivia song earlier today. I actually like it more than its other two counterparts.

Revenger
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness
Atelier Ayesha - Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
Atelier Ayesha - Mystic Pendulum
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Crystar - Revenger
Atelier Ayesha - Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Revenger
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Crystar
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Innocence and Emptiness
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Innocence and Emptiness
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Innocence and Emptiness
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Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients

Best B8 VGM project was Rate the VGMusic

R.I.P.
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Pablo Smith votes:
Revenger

Revenger
Yesterday's Opponents are Today's Ingredients

very easy day, right down to I'll Remember You
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Crystar - Revenger
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
Atelier Ayesha - Mystic Pendulum

justice for the missing tiebreaker
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revenger
autumn

there nfun are you happy now?

probably not because i voted for revenger but THEM'S THE BREAKS.
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the difference between revenger and i&e is much much greater than the difference between autumn and opponents

actually it isnt at all but the ayesha songs are significantly better for me so it just feels more important
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Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
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Innocence and Emptiness
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients

Revenger
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
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Revenger
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients

Revenger
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Autumn > Yesterday's Opponents > Revenger > Innocence and Emptiness
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Innocence and Emptiness
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Innocence and Emptiness
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
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New rankings out of 9 (8 after today)!

2. Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness (9.5) (over Snake Eater, TIGAR, Mount Vesuvius, Douwa Kairou)

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4. Crystar - Revenger (7.5) (over Everythings Alright, Mystic Pendulum, ENDYMION, DNF, Chloe)

This is quite the match. I've voted for both of these songs in every round, but I have a clear preference for Innocence and Emptiness. Revenger's great, but as I've said, there's too much downtime. Compare this to I&E, where everything just builds majestically. Easy match, but Revenger being here is still really cool!

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7. Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Invitation Flower ~ Autumn (6) (for Lost in the Waves; over Gallant Gunshot, Final Boss Theme, Yesterdays Opponents)

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9. Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients (3) (for Soilscraper, Its Not Over 1, Ignith of the Final Attack, Invitation Flower ~ Autumn)

I didn't comment on this match when it went up two days ago, so how fitting that the tiebreaker allows me the opportunity to do so. Invitation Flower is my favorite Atelier song in the bracket (by virtue of being the only one I actually liked). It opens up to this neat world from the opening notes, like passing through a forest (it's kind of similar in that respect to Passing Through the Forest, even though the songs are different tonally). It's cool going on a journey with this song.

YOATI is repetitive in a bad way. It essentially does two things the whole time, and neither is particularly interesting enough for me to enjoy. It's my least favorite song remaining, so if it wins this match I'll be rather sad.

Votes:
Innocence and Emptiness
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Innocence and Emptiness
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
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Innocence and Emptiness
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness
Atelier Ayesha - Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Revenger
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays oh god please just kill the infernal flower

Revenger
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
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Innocence and Emptiness
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
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Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness
Atelier Ayesha - Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

So we're already getting into the last stretch of the contest, and this just keeps getting more and more intense.

Match 1:

As I mentioned last round, normally when a song has more than 30 or 40 seconds of intro, it already dragged on for a bit much. Therefore, having 2 and a half minutes of build-up and still being worth the wait is something extraordinary, in every sense of the word. That's why I like I&E so much. Maybe not as much as many other songs in the contest, but this one delivers, and it does it good. Having it reaching retirement definitely made me appreciate it a lot more, and I didn't notice up until this round that the whole song not only get progressively better, but also progressively (and quite appropriately) louder.

Both songs have a very appropriate style for these heights... kind of. There have been better matches at this point of the competition in past VGMCs, but these songs have sort of the same weaknesses and high points, only at different times of the song; I&E gets progressively better and better despite a weird (but effective) build-up, while Revenger has many ups and downs, and the ups aren't enough (both in quality and in quantity) to compete properly.

Tiebreaker:

So I didn't have much time to talk about this particular match the last time, but I don't think there's much to say other than both songs being superbly executed, but Autumn having a better sound and feel overall. It's definitely not as good as Rain of Blossoms, but the style is very similar and that's nice.

I was feeling kind of guilty for not rooting enough for Yesterday's Opponents, but Autumn really is better to me. It's entirely up to tastes, though.

The following rankings are kind of wobbly right now, but it's what I could make out of today's songs for the moment:

A&E > When the Leaves Fall > Yesterday's Ingredients are Today Spoiled Over > Drunk Guy at the Mansion Strikes Again
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Revenge
Autumn
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Innocence
Yesterday
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Revenger
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Innocence and Emptiness
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients

*spelling

Revenger
Yesterdays Opponents are Todays Ingredients
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Revenger
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn

Finally, I&E runs into an opponent strong enough that it has to pay for its weak start.
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