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UnfairRepresent 06/13/19 10:01:14 PM #1:	Are you listening? - Results (1 vote) No 100% (1 vote) 1 Yes 0% (0 votes) 0 My atheist father raised me on fanciful parables where the moral of the story concluded that God did not and could not exist. His strong belief in human ability and the power of positive thinking laced my childhood with quips like What one conceives and then believes can be achieved. No pie in the sky in the sweet by-and-by awaited us. Instead, if I wanted help, I needed look no further than the end of my own arm. By my college days, my arms were weighed down by the baggage of my parents divorce, an absentee father, and a stoically distant step-father. Like many college coeds, I tried to cope with one-night stands, binge drinking, and recreational drugs. But at night when the lights were out, I was left wondering, Is there something more to life? Unlike Wonder Woman, I possessed no ability to rescue others, least of all myself from these destructive behaviors. During my sophomore year, my dadnow a doctor, law student, and authorhad a born-again experience after reading a red letter edition of the Bible to determine whether Jesus professed positive things. His newfound faith threatened me. Outwardly, I wildly mocked him. Inwardly, his reversal of worldviews launched me on a quest to discover the meaning of life. I took a class on non-Western religions like Buddhism, Taoism, and Hinduism. I interviewed classmates about their belief systems while we stood around a keg smoking joints. Family members tried to draw me back into their godless fold with words devoid of logic or comfort. One day, I passed a bookstore where Billy Grahams new book How to Be Born Again beckoned to me like a neon light. I tucked the volume into my beach bag, grabbed a six-pack, and drove to the sand-duned shores of Lake Michigan to party with friends. While they hit the waves, I spread out a blanket to soak up the sun. Something I read in chapter 3, Does God Really Speak to Us,? chafed against my scientific belief in evolution. Billy proposed that God is a Creator who speaks through nature, whether in a crying infant or the song of a bird. Yeah, right, I blurted out. I arrogantly put God to a challenge and inadvertently offered my first prayer: God, if You rule over nature, if Youre sovereign even over the instincts of a bird, then make that bird chirping in the distance fly into the tree next to my blanket. Fluttering toward me, the small grey swallow lit upon the branch above my head. Closing the book superstitiously, I thought, Maybe God does exist and created me for a purpose. Billy recommended you read the Bible because it contains the very words of God. Reading it introduced me to Gods great love and His ability to provide each of us an abundant life full of significance. I devoured the pages of the Bible as though all my life Id only eaten vanilla ice cream and someone had introduced me to 31 flavors. I couldnt get enough. I was transformed from tending bar on the weekends to marrying a pastor who tells people every Sunday about the living water that satisfies our deep thirst for more. Who would believe that a bird and a Bible would one day lead us to becoming friends with Billy Graham and his family? Weve enjoyed a meal in their home, traveled with them on vacation, and were privileged to participate in the baptism of Billys grandson William Franklin Graham IV. I wonder how God is waiting to speak to you. You never know the audacious plans He has in store for you. Are you listening? Full Article: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/25/was-committed-atheist-and-then-this-incredible-thing-happened-to-me.html I don't think I could eat 31 ice creams... --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923279784] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote> Are you listening? - Results (1 vote) No 100% (1 vote) 1 Yes 0% (0 votes) 0 My atheist father raised me on fanciful parables where the moral of the story concluded that God did not and could not exist. His strong belief in human ability and the power of positive thinking laced my childhood with quips like What one conceives and then believes can be achieved. No pie in the sky in the sweet by-and-by awaited us. Instead, if I wanted help, I needed look no further than the end of my own arm. By my college days, my arms were weighed down by the baggage of my parents divorce, an absentee father, and a stoically distant step-father. Like many college coeds, I tried to cope with one-night stands, binge drinking, and recreational drugs. But at night when the lights were out, I was left wondering, Is there something more to life? Unlike Wonder Woman, I possessed no ability to rescue others, least of all myself from these destructive behaviors. During my sophomore year, my dadnow a doctor, law student, and authorhad a born-again experience after reading a red letter edition of the Bible to determine whether Jesus professed positive things. His newfound faith threatened me. Outwardly, I wildly mocked him. Inwardly, his reversal of worldviews launched me on a quest to discover the meaning of life. I took a class on non-Western religions like Buddhism, Taoism, and Hinduism. I interviewed classmates about their belief systems while we stood around a keg smoking joints. Family members tried to draw me back into their godless fold with words devoid of logic or comfort. One day, I passed a bookstore where Billy Grahams new book How to Be Born Again beckoned to me like a neon light. I tucked the volume into my beach bag, grabbed a six-pack, and drove to the sand-duned shores of Lake Michigan to party with friends. While they hit the waves, I spread out a blanket to soak up the sun. Something I read in chapter 3, Does God Really Speak to Us,? chafed against my scientific belief in evolution. Billy proposed that God is a Creator who speaks through nature, whether in a crying infant or the song of a bird. Yeah, right, I blurted out. I arrogantly put God to a challenge and inadvertently offered my first prayer: God, if You rule over nature, if Youre sovereign even over the instincts of a bird, then make that bird chirping in the distance fly into the tree next to my blanket. Fluttering toward me, the small grey swallow lit upon the branch above my head. Closing the book superstitiously, I thought, Maybe God does exist and created me for a purpose. Billy recommended you read the Bible because it contains the very words of God. Reading it introduced me to Gods great love and His ability to provide each of us an abundant life full of significance. I devoured the pages of the Bible as though all my life Id only eaten vanilla ice cream and someone had introduced me to 31 flavors. I couldnt get enough. I was transformed from tending bar on the weekends to marrying a pastor who tells people every Sunday about the living water that satisfies our deep thirst for more. Who would believe that a bird and a Bible would one day lead us to becoming friends with Billy Graham and his family? Weve enjoyed a meal in their home, traveled with them on vacation, and were privileged to participate in the baptism of Billys grandson William Franklin Graham IV. I wonder how God is waiting to speak to you. You never know the audacious plans He has in store for you. Are you listening? Full Article: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/25/was-committed-atheist-and-then-this-incredible-thing-happened-to-me.html I don't think I could eat 31 ice creams...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kuwab0 06/13/19 10:02:45 PM #2:	She looks like she wants to speak to God's Manager --- https://imgur.com/QfpP05s https://imgur.com/vdnZ1o6 https://imgur.com/zTgf822 <cite>kuwab0 posted [p:923279865] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>She looks like she wants to speak to God's Manager</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 06/13/19 10:05:21 PM #3:	That sort of story isn't too surprising. Just because someone's an atheist doesn't mean it's for some strictly rational reason. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:923279986] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>That sort of story isn't too surprising. Just because someone's an atheist doesn't mean it's for some strictly rational reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 06/13/19 10:09:54 PM #4:	Obviously they weren't very hardline if just simply reading the bible caused them to throw away years worth belief/disbelief. This story honestly sounds like complete bullshit though and is just some propaganda tale created for recruitment. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:923280213] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>Obviously they weren't very hardline if just simply reading the bible caused them to throw away years worth belief/disbelief. This story honestly sounds like complete bullshit though and is just some propaganda tale created for recruitment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 06/13/19 10:12:20 PM #5:	She's just the type that needs something to hold on to. --- [break the meta] https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:923280337] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>She's just the type that needs something to hold on to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/13/19 10:19:50 PM #6:	Gamerguymass posted... Obviously they weren't very hardline if just simply reading the bible caused them to throw away years worth belief/disbelief. What makes you say that? --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923280683] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote>Obviously they weren't very hardline if just simply reading the bible caused them to throw away years worth belief/disbelief. </quote> What makes you say that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 06/13/19 10:21:41 PM #7:	In pretty sure you made a very similiar topic months ago. Because i remember the article plus that pic. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! Switch FC: SW-0575-4758-7878 <cite>Prestoff posted [p:923280765] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>In pretty sure you made a very similiar topic months ago. Because i remember the article plus that pic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 06/13/19 10:26:33 PM #8:	THOTs always find Jesus. --- I'm in Chicago, I'm shaking my head. <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:923280989] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>THOTs always find Jesus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 06/13/19 10:31:25 PM #9:	UnfairRepresent posted... Yeah, right, I blurted out. I arrogantly put God to a challenge and inadvertently offered my first prayer: God, if You rule over nature, if Youre sovereign even over the instincts of a bird, then make that bird chirping in the distance fly into the tree next to my blanket. Fluttering toward me, the small grey swallow lit upon the branch above my head. Closing the book superstitiously, I thought, Maybe God does exist and created me for a purpose. this person doesn't sound very smart --- https://i.imgtc.com/hB9W4JK.gif You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:923281191] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, right, I blurted out. I arrogantly put God to a challenge and inadvertently offered my first prayer: God, if You rule over nature, if Youre sovereign even over the instincts of a bird, then make that bird chirping in the distance fly into the tree next to my blanket. Fluttering toward me, the small grey swallow lit upon the branch above my head. Closing the book superstitiously, I thought, Maybe God does exist and created me for a purpose. </quote> this person doesn't sound very smart</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/13/19 11:26:18 PM #10:	Prestoff posted... In pretty sure you made a very similiar topic months ago. Because i remember the article plus that pic. Yeah on the Religion board --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923283810] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>In pretty sure you made a very similiar topic months ago. Because i remember the article plus that pic.</quote> Yeah on the Religion board</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 10:53:12 AM #11:	Flockaveli posted... THOTs always find Jesus. :/ --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923347042] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Flockaveli posted...</cite> <quote>THOTs always find Jesus.</quote> :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 06/15/19 10:58:24 AM #13:	Stupid babies need the most attention --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:923347219] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>Stupid babies need the most attention</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 06/15/19 11:13:17 AM #14:	I saw this posted last year. I believe it is fake and a propaganda piece. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:923347663] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>I saw this posted last year. I believe it is fake and a propaganda piece.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 06/15/19 11:16:05 AM #15:	What a lame story. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:923347738] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>What a lame story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 12:24:41 PM #16:	Machete posted... I saw this posted last year. I believe it is fake and a propaganda piece. What makes you say that? --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923349980] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>I saw this posted last year. I believe it is fake and a propaganda piece.</quote> What makes you say that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
8-bit_Biceps 06/15/19 12:26:18 PM #17:	Is that Carol Brady? <cite>8-bit_Biceps posted [p:923350043] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>Is that Carol Brady?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 06/15/19 12:34:43 PM #18:	UnfairRepresent posted... Machete posted... I saw this posted last year. I believe it is fake and a propaganda piece. What makes you say that? I got that impression last time. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:923350357] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>I saw this posted last year. I believe it is fake and a propaganda piece.</quote> What makes you say that?</quote> I got that impression last time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 12:35:31 PM #19:	But can't explain how --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923350381] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>But can't explain how</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 06/15/19 12:59:53 PM #20:	UnfairRepresent posted... But can't explain how I don't remember. It was last year. Just seemed fake to me. I'm not sorry for that being insufficient for you. In fact I'm actually double-not-sorry. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:923351244] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>But can't explain how</quote> I don't remember. It was last year. Just seemed fake to me. I'm not sorry for that being insufficient for you. In fact I'm actually double-not-sorry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 06/15/19 1:01:28 PM #21:	do people really think these testimonials will convince me or anyone else to convert to delusion? --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:923351297] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>do people really think these testimonials will convince me or anyone else to convert to delusion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 1:03:34 PM #22:	spudger posted... do people really think these testimonials will convince me or anyone else to convert to delusion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pismg8l57Rs" data-time=" --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923351378] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>do people really think these testimonials will convince me or anyone else to convert to delusion?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pismg8l57Rs" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 06/15/19 1:13:14 PM #23:	UnfairRepresent posted... spudger posted... do people really think these testimonials will convince me or anyone else to convert to delusion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pismg8l57Rs" data-time=" lol --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:923351702] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>do people really think these testimonials will convince me or anyone else to convert to delusion?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pismg8l57Rs" data-time="</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 06/15/19 1:17:05 PM #24:	I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:923351825] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AwesomeOSauce 06/15/19 1:17:18 PM #25:	Its interesting from the standpoint that parents always go "absolutes' with their kids so they raise them 100% atheist or christian etc. So when they grow up and go against the groove of what they were raised as they feel like there is a whole free world of things to discover and then usually do the opposite. That is why Christians that are super strict and only influence their kids on christian worldview on things and athiests that do the same thing kinda create a monster kid that will always have doubts about "the other side" --- http://soundcloud.com/sunnyterra/audio-recording-on-monday-29 ^ Hermiione / Aeriis says my name and says I'm cute! ^_^ <cite>AwesomeOSauce posted [p:923351836] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>Its interesting from the standpoint that parents always go "absolutes' with their kids so they raise them 100% atheist or christian etc. So when they grow up and go against the groove of what they were raised as they feel like there is a whole free world of things to discover and then usually do the opposite. That is why Christians that are super strict and only influence their kids on christian worldview on things and athiests that do the same thing kinda create a monster kid that will always have doubts about "the other side"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 1:21:02 PM #26:	Machete posted... I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance. Dunno why it was locked. No one was saying horrible things or anything. Mods were even posting in it --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923351970] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance.</quote> Dunno why it was locked. No one was saying horrible things or anything. Mods were even posting in it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 06/15/19 1:24:39 PM #27:	TL;Dr Did someone say something about 31 types of icecream? Tell me about that. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018. Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 99999 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:923352118] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>TL;Dr Did someone say something about 31 types of icecream? Tell me about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 1:27:00 PM #28:	Dyinglegacy posted... TL;Dr Did someone say something about 31 types of icecream? Tell me about that. She says that going from atheism to Christianity is like going from vanila to 31 different flavors of ice-cream --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923352211] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>TL;Dr Did someone say something about 31 types of icecream? Tell me about that.</quote> She says that going from atheism to Christianity is like going from vanila to 31 different flavors of ice-cream</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 06/15/19 1:31:26 PM #29:	UnfairRepresent posted... Machete posted... I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance. Dunno why it was locked. No one was saying horrible things or anything. Mods were even posting in it Did the article have any graphic pics or something maybe? The pics you provided were fine but maybe the article itself had something. Then again, that would likely result in a deletion rather than a lock. shrugs yeah, weird. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:923352362] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance.</quote> Dunno why it was locked. No one was saying horrible things or anything. Mods were even posting in it</quote> Did the article have any graphic pics or something maybe? The pics you provided were fine but maybe the article itself had something. Then again, that would likely result in a deletion rather than a lock. shrugs yeah, weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 1:39:24 PM #30:	Machete posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Machete posted... I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance. Dunno why it was locked. No one was saying horrible things or anything. Mods were even posting in it Did the article have any graphic pics or something maybe? The pics you provided were fine but maybe the article itself had something. Then again, that would likely result in a deletion rather than a lock. shrugs yeah, weird. I guess a mod must have made an error in judgement --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923352679] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance.</quote> Dunno why it was locked. No one was saying horrible things or anything. Mods were even posting in it</quote> Did the article have any graphic pics or something maybe? The pics you provided were fine but maybe the article itself had something. Then again, that would likely result in a deletion rather than a lock. shrugs yeah, weird.</quote> I guess a mod must have made an error in judgement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 06/15/19 3:42:59 PM #31:	UnfairRepresent posted... Machete posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Machete posted... I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance. Dunno why it was locked. No one was saying horrible things or anything. Mods were even posting in it Did the article have any graphic pics or something maybe? The pics you provided were fine but maybe the article itself had something. Then again, that would likely result in a deletion rather than a lock. shrugs yeah, weird. I guess a mod must have made an error in judgement Yeah. That happens from time to time. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:923357281] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>I intended to post "that is numerous kinds of fucked up :(" in your topic about the Brazilian lesbians who cut off the kid's penis but it was already locked before I got the chance.</quote> Dunno why it was locked. No one was saying horrible things or anything. Mods were even posting in it</quote> Did the article have any graphic pics or something maybe? The pics you provided were fine but maybe the article itself had something. Then again, that would likely result in a deletion rather than a lock. shrugs yeah, weird.</quote> I guess a mod must have made an error in judgement</quote> Yeah. That happens from time to time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 06/15/19 3:48:58 PM #32:	Random thing happens, ergo, God exists. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:923357506] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>Random thing happens, ergo, God exists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/15/19 3:49:12 PM #33:	So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:923357516] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 06/15/19 3:49:40 PM #34:	hockeybub89 posted... So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl? That God is just a crazy cat! --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:923357536] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl?</quote> That God is just a crazy cat!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 3:51:26 PM #35:	hockeybub89 posted... So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl? God helps those who help themselves claims Christians If God just undid all evil in the world then free will and choices would have no meaning. We have to have the ability to do millions of horrible things in order to choose not to. --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923357608] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl?</quote> God helps those who help themselves claims Christians If God just undid all evil in the world then free will and choices would have no meaning. We have to have the ability to do millions of horrible things in order to choose not to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 06/15/19 3:53:39 PM #36:	God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:923357689] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 06/15/19 3:54:50 PM #37:	DarkRoast posted... God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge. Yeah, millions of children choose to get leukemia. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:923357724] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge.</quote> Yeah, millions of children choose to get leukemia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/15/19 3:55:11 PM #38:	DarkRoast posted... God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Until a girl reads 3 chapters of a Billy Graham book. Then God makes an Earth cameo to reposition a bird. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:923357737] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will.</quote> Until a girl reads 3 chapters of a Billy Graham book. Then God makes an Earth cameo to reposition a bird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 3:59:01 PM #39:	jumi posted... DarkRoast posted... God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge. Yeah, millions of children choose to get leukemia. Maybe witnessing those children is what gives you the incentive and strength to do something to help them? This is why Mother Theresa wanted people to suffer in agony --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923357862] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge.</quote> Yeah, millions of children choose to get leukemia.</quote> Maybe witnessing those children is what gives you the incentive and strength to do something to help them? This is why Mother Theresa wanted people to suffer in agony</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 06/15/19 3:59:58 PM #40:	AwesomeOSauce posted... Its interesting from the standpoint that parents always go "absolutes' with their kids so they raise them 100% atheist or christian etc. So when they grow up and go against the groove of what they were raised as they feel like there is a whole free world of things to discover and then usually do the opposite. That is why Christians that are super strict and only influence their kids on christian worldview on things and athiests that do the same thing kinda create a monster kid that will always have doubts about "the other side" But in this story the daughter doesn't go against the groove at all. Her atheist dad converting to Christianity is what inspired her to as well. <cite>Raikuro posted [p:923357889] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>AwesomeOSauce posted...</cite> <quote>Its interesting from the standpoint that parents always go "absolutes' with their kids so they raise them 100% atheist or christian etc. So when they grow up and go against the groove of what they were raised as they feel like there is a whole free world of things to discover and then usually do the opposite. That is why Christians that are super strict and only influence their kids on christian worldview on things and athiests that do the same thing kinda create a monster kid that will always have doubts about "the other side"</quote> But in this story the daughter doesn't go against the groove at all. Her atheist dad converting to Christianity is what inspired her to as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coinstarcad 06/15/19 4:02:19 PM #41:	God, if you're real then make that guy get off the ladder. If he does, then ALL of the Bible is the truth! <cite>coinstarcad posted [p:923357976] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>God, if you're real then make that guy get off the ladder. If he does, then ALL of the Bible is the truth!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 06/15/19 4:05:49 PM #42:	UnfairRepresent posted... jumi posted... DarkRoast posted... God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge. Yeah, millions of children choose to get leukemia. Maybe witnessing those children is what gives you the incentive and strength to do something to help them? This is why Mother Theresa wanted people to suffer in agony Mother Teresa was a monster, and so is the Christian god. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:923358089] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge.</quote> Yeah, millions of children choose to get leukemia.</quote> Maybe witnessing those children is what gives you the incentive and strength to do something to help them? This is why Mother Theresa wanted people to suffer in agony</quote> Mother Teresa was a monster, and so is the Christian god.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/15/19 4:07:04 PM #43:	jumi posted... UnfairRepresent posted... jumi posted... DarkRoast posted... God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge. Yeah, millions of children choose to get leukemia. Maybe witnessing those children is what gives you the incentive and strength to do something to help them? This is why Mother Theresa wanted people to suffer in agony Mother Teresa was a monster, and so is the Christian god. Won't get any argument from me. It utterly baffles me that we get people not only defending it, but even on this board alone right now we got people defending the God of the bible by going "But if we ignore the scripture we can pretend the scripture said nicer things." and I literally cannot fathom that doublethink mindset. --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923358139] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>God pretty much states explicitly that Man is the master of the Earth and all that's in it, which means everything bad exists out of Man's own free will. Evil exists because Man was given the privilege of authority and knowledge.</quote> Yeah, millions of children choose to get leukemia.</quote> Maybe witnessing those children is what gives you the incentive and strength to do something to help them? This is why Mother Theresa wanted people to suffer in agony</quote> Mother Teresa was a monster, and so is the Christian god.</quote> Won't get any argument from me. It utterly baffles me that we get people not only defending it, but even on this board alone right now we got people defending the God of the bible by going "But if we ignore the scripture we can pretend the scripture said nicer things." and I literally cannot fathom that doublethink mindset.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 06/16/19 1:56:57 PM #44:	UnfairRepresent posted... hockeybub89 posted... So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl? God helps those who help themselves claims Christians If God just undid all evil in the world then free will and choices would have no meaning. We have to have the ability to do millions of horrible things in order to choose not to. Something I've always been curious about is why that's the best option. Why is it preferable to be able to choose "bad" in order to choose "good," rather than simply doing "good" by default? If God could make it so that we always make the perfect "choice," what use would we have for free will? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:923396675] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl?</quote> God helps those who help themselves claims Christians If God just undid all evil in the world then free will and choices would have no meaning. We have to have the ability to do millions of horrible things in order to choose not to.</quote> Something I've always been curious about is why that's the best option. Why is it preferable to be able to choose "bad" in order to choose "good," rather than simply doing "good" by default? If God could make it so that we always make the perfect "choice," what use would we have for free will?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/16/19 2:14:22 PM #45:	Dragonblade01 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... hockeybub89 posted... So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl? God helps those who help themselves claims Christians If God just undid all evil in the world then free will and choices would have no meaning. We have to have the ability to do millions of horrible things in order to choose not to. Something I've always been curious about is why that's the best option. Why is it preferable to be able to choose "bad" in order to choose "good," rather than simply doing "good" by default? If God could make it so that we always make the perfect "choice," what use would we have for free will? He did It was called the Garden of Eden. Everything was innocent. Adam and Eve ate the from the tree that gave them knowlege of shame, evil and consequence. Aka free will. --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923397442] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl?</quote> God helps those who help themselves claims Christians If God just undid all evil in the world then free will and choices would have no meaning. We have to have the ability to do millions of horrible things in order to choose not to.</quote> Something I've always been curious about is why that's the best option. Why is it preferable to be able to choose "bad" in order to choose "good," rather than simply doing "good" by default? If God could make it so that we always make the perfect "choice," what use would we have for free will?</quote> He did It was called the Garden of Eden. Everything was innocent. Adam and Eve ate the from the tree that gave them knowlege of shame, evil and consequence. Aka free will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/16/19 2:17:09 PM #46:	Gamerguymass posted... This story honestly sounds like complete bullshit though and is just some propaganda tale created for recruitmen --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:923397559] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote>This story honestly sounds like complete bullshit though and is just some propaganda tale created for recruitmen</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 06/16/19 2:43:27 PM #47:	Tbh, even if I had proof that the God of Abraham existed, I wouldn't worship him. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:923398651] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote>Tbh, even if I had proof that the God of Abraham existed, I wouldn't worship him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 06/16/19 2:50:23 PM #48:	UnfairRepresent posted... Dragonblade01 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... hockeybub89 posted... So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl? God helps those who help themselves claims Christians If God just undid all evil in the world then free will and choices would have no meaning. We have to have the ability to do millions of horrible things in order to choose not to. Something I've always been curious about is why that's the best option. Why is it preferable to be able to choose "bad" in order to choose "good," rather than simply doing "good" by default? If God could make it so that we always make the perfect "choice," what use would we have for free will? He did It was called the Garden of Eden. Everything was innocent. Adam and Eve ate the from the tree that gave them knowlege of shame, evil and consequence. Aka free will. How did we eat from the tree? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:923398962] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So God can't prevent millions of horrible things from happening, but he can move birds at the request of a random girl?</quote> God helps those who help themselves claims Christians If God just undid all evil in the world then free will and choices would have no meaning. We have to have the ability to do millions of horrible things in order to choose not to.</quote> Something I've always been curious about is why that's the best option. Why is it preferable to be able to choose "bad" in order to choose "good," rather than simply doing "good" by default? If God could make it so that we always make the perfect "choice," what use would we have for free will?</quote> He did It was called the Garden of Eden. Everything was innocent. Adam and Eve ate the from the tree that gave them knowlege of shame, evil and consequence. Aka free will.</quote> How did we eat from the tree?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/16/19 2:51:21 PM #49:	Dragonblade01 posted... How did we eat from the tree? Because a serpant told Eve too and she obeyed because she was weak. As punishment women were made weaker and to endure periods and childbirth, --- ^ Hey now that's completely woke! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:923399006] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote> How did we eat from the tree?</quote> Because a serpant told Eve too and she obeyed because she was weak. As punishment women were made weaker and to endure periods and childbirth,</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 06/16/19 2:51:59 PM #50:	UnfairRepresent posted... Dragonblade01 posted... How did we eat from the tree? Because a serpant told Eve too and she obeyed because she was weak. As punishment women were made weaker and to endure periods and childbirth, But how did we do it before we had free will? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:923399040] in Committed ... [t:77788588]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote> How did we eat from the tree?</quote> Because a serpant told Eve too and she obeyed because she was weak. As punishment women were made weaker and to endure periods and childbirth,</quote> But how did we do it before we had free will?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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