Board 8 > English Literature Mafia: Topic 6

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Which would explain why your Pez read was entirely based on him mentioning there was Serial Killer in the game I guess.
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also Ben that's silly. Scare is easily skilled enough to be high energy as scum.
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Lea3Lea posted...

Puns, I still just don't understand why the claim. You're only going to live long because you claimed. I know you said you tried to bait a shot last game and "only" made them use an X-power on you instead of town power, but that didn't feel super convincing. I'll ask again if you thought the risk of being exactly cop scanned is higher than the risk of claiming vanilla for no real gain?

In all my years I don't think I've ever seen b8 question a miller on why they chose to claim day 1 this is honestly a little mind blowing.

I've been scanned before on night 1, I don't really see the point of not claiming it, I don't really see the point of questioning why I chose to claim it.

And it was mostly me being salty about your play last game here where you blatantly ignored everything I left you about b8 meta.
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red13n posted...

Camarija posted...

I'd been wondering why they almost randomly fetishized physical violence against me

its metaphorical dude, I'm not going to physically kick your teeth in.

Indeed

I don't normally invoke violent crimes in my metaphors

I imagine you dont either without a purpose

dowolf posted...

also Ben that's silly. Scare is easily skilled enough to be high energy as scum.

Whether he's scum or not, I like him means I'll keep him alive until he's suddenly not as clearly excited to be here and play as he was in the opening posts.
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I see the best players not claiming miller, and I consider you one of the best!

turbopuns3 posted...

I've been scanned before on night 1, I don't really see the point of not claiming it, I don't really see the point of questioning why I chose to claim it.

If someone goes "i'm cop i scanned x scum" and they go "but i'm miller" everyone laughs and the miller gets lynched.
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Camarija posted...

Indeed

I don't normally invoke violent crimes in my metaphors

I imagine you dont either without a purpose

my purpose was to get your attention and listen to me on b8 meta.
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red13n posted...

Also other part of your logic in that post. You really think hes going to draw attention from scum with a miller claim?

The miller last game got ignored by -everyone-.

Didn't Puns imply that he was not trying to draw attached because he tried last time and failed?
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I hear if Red kills you in the game, you die in real life

Lea3Lea posted...

I see the best players not claiming miller, and I consider you one of the best!

I've seen it many times as both scum and town. So I guess I agree that it's within Puns ability to take it as scum. Doesn't mean that's what I think is happening.
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I hear if Red kills you in the game, he talks about it next game if he draws scum as an excuse to provide no insight about the current game.
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pezloco posted...

Didn't Puns imply that he was not trying to draw attached because he tried last time and failed?

i dont know, i was taking your post at its word to mean that puns said at some point he wanted to draw attention(I cant memorize every post here). If you meant different then its all moot.
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I hate almost every single game having a town miller, so boring. I'd rather imagine it doesn't exist. A sort of just world mafia worldview

red13n posted...

pezloco posted...

Didn't Puns imply that he was not trying to draw attached because he tried last time and failed?

i dont know, i was taking your post at its word to mean that puns said at some point he wanted to draw attention(I cant memorize every post here). If you meant different then its all moot.

Maybe it was in the 400 posts of fluff in day 1 ;)
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pezloco posted...

Maybe it was in the 400 posts of fluff in day 1 ;)

Topic 1 oops
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Lea3Lea posted...

I hate almost every single game having a town miller, so boring. I'd rather imagine it doesn't exist. A sort of just world mafia worldview

Ignore the role. Read the player. What do you think of his vote on Scare? He's not defended it well in my opinion at all. Also he never elaborated when I asked him about it.
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Lea3Lea posted...

I hate almost every single game having a town miller, so boring. I'd rather imagine it doesn't exist. A sort of just world mafia worldview

I hate it too. The first game I ever hosted I didn't put a cop, miller, or godfather and then somehow magically town tracker lied about being miller anyway.

btw I'm pretty sure that's the game where pj's miller claim opener was born

We're not gonna have a ten topic day one at this rate. We're gonna need to kick this fluff up to sheep made of cotton candy levels ASAP

All said, I was most interesting in talking to Scare here and hes not here. Thats kind of disappointing.
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Red, I like your fire. However, can you please not threaten to commit aggravated assault against the lost wolfies. This is a game and not survivor.
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pezloco posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

I hate almost every single game having a town miller, so boring. I'd rather imagine it doesn't exist. A sort of just world mafia worldview

Ignore the role. Read the player. What do you think of his vote on Scare? He's not defended it well in my opinion at all. Also he never elaborated when I asked him about it.

Puns can't be read, he can only be burned. Aside from that it seems like he thought Eaed was scum for being inactive but never said so before the replace, which is somewhat odd. If it wasn't sporting then, surely it's even less sporting now that he's replaced. But I guess it takes a true visionary like me to public ally say the people not posting might be scum~~

benjamin3740 posted...

Whether he's scum or not, I like him means I'll keep him alive until he's suddenly not as clearly excited to be here and play as he was in the opening posts.

man this is a long game demanding people always be peppy and super excited is at best super rude and at worst an excuse to vote people who shouldn't be voted.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

(4) red: Lopen
(1) Cam: (Lopen)
(0) No Lynch: (Lopen)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen)

For reference. Why is this important?

(1) Hb: (Chris), (Lea), (puns), (Tom), (Corrik), (Death), (Cam), Corrik

Lopen has no problem voting for me, Red, or Cam, but he hasn't voted for HB who he supposedly thinks is scum. There was also that nonsense about how skipping 400 posts and mentioning SK isn't a big deal.

@Lopen sorry it was Ulti's post I liked not Scare's.
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dowolf posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Whether he's scum or not, I like him means I'll keep him alive until he's suddenly not as clearly excited to be here and play as he was in the opening posts.

man this is a long game demanding people always be peppy and super excited is at best super rude and at worst an excuse to vote people who shouldn't be voted.

Plus earlier I said I associate peppy with scum Dowolf, you just can't win!

I know your defense was you didn't need to vote. But vitals are so heavily used that keeping your vote off a train can be very useful. When people go back and read they'll find it yes, but it won't be constantly talked about if HB ever flips. If HB gets lynched those vitals get posted over and over again
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More reasonable, that. If you weren't there doing an ISO on that is fine. I mean, you'll find that my defense of it being absurd that I'd give a damn about avoiding voting him is solid I imagine but if you take the statement at face value yeah it's something to look into me for.
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Lea3Lea posted...

dowolf posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Whether he's scum or not, I like him means I'll keep him alive until he's suddenly not as clearly excited to be here and play as he was in the opening posts.

man this is a long game demanding people always be peppy and super excited is at best super rude and at worst an excuse to vote people who shouldn't be voted.

Plus earlier I said I associate peppy with scum Dowolf, you just can't win!

:(
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does scare seem like a little of pot calling the kettle black here?

He switched to me and was calling me out for only suspecting him (which isn't true but I digress) and ever since his switch onto me he's only posted to attack me and hasn't really been involved in any different conversations from what I've seen

Lopen posted...

More reasonable, that. If you weren't there doing an ISO on that is fine. I mean, you'll find that my defense of it being absurd that I'd give a damn about avoiding voting him is solid I imagine but if you take the statement at face value yeah it's something to look into me for.

I was expecting to be gone by now. I was reading quickly. And only thinking about Scare and Puns.
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the eaed thing was more than just "inactive = scum"

It was that last game he posted an almost identical post day 1 at almost exactly the same amount of time before day 1 deadline saying he was probably going to replace.

Like the reasoning was different and I do not doubt in any way that he is busy.

It's just like. Ya know sometimes stuff happens in court and the jury is supposed to just pretend they didn't hear it or see it? But like how can you really do that.

It was just a hunch and so I was looking at Scare under a microscope when he started and I didn't get any of the towny scare vibes which I got last game during day 1 when I decided to leave his train and pursue something else

And now all he is doing is using bad reasoning to vote me and nothing else

I agree in as much that I dont like his suspicion due to miller reasoning
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turbopuns3 posted...

does scare seem like a little of pot calling the kettle black here?

He switched to me and was calling me out for only suspecting him (which isn't true but I digress) and ever since his switch onto me he's only posted to attack me and hasn't really been involved in any different conversations from what I've seen

I think I feel less good about Scare in light of the Lopen read I liked actually belonging to Ulti.
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and for gods sake Lolo
where are you?
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Are you actually reading the game? I thought you had been around more this game. I've made my opinion of Tom very clear I thought. I literally asked the rest of the game to look at Sultan because I thought his read of Tom was cheap and easy after Chris, 5tar and I discussed our reads of Tom prior to Sultan's post. I don't think town Red does this

Your read of Sultan you talk about how you see Tom playing different than last game but you don't explicitly say you are certain he was town.

On top of that, my asking for your reads of each other was going in knowing you both were likely asleep and hadn't weighed in on each other explicitly in a little while. Further, I was mostly interested in Tom's take on you, I just figured, in the interesting of feeling both of you out(Theres always the less likely possibility you both are scum on the table) that I'd ask for another take from you, even though I'm less interested because you have garnered significantly less trust from me.
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##Unvote

##Vote Scare

Neat

Also you absolutely made it very clear last game there is a difference between "Roommate powers" and "generic reads". I was pretty obviously implying a question as to if there were any inklings to the former.
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Also I still have like 400 or something posts to read, and I think that is undershooting it. I'm going to reiterate how much I hate all of you.
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red13n posted...

Are you actually reading the game? I thought you had been around more this game. I've made my opinion of Tom very clear I thought. I literally asked the rest of the game to look at Sultan because I thought his read of Tom was cheap and easy after Chris, 5tar and I discussed our reads of Tom prior to Sultan's post. I don't think town Red does this

Your read of Sultan you talk about how you see Tom playing different than last game but you don't explicitly say you are certain he was town.

On top of that, my asking for your reads of each other was going in knowing you both were likely asleep and hadn't weighed in on each other explicitly in a little while. Further, I was mostly interested in Tom's take on you, I just figured, in the interesting of feeling both of you out(Theres always the less likely possibility you both are scum on the table) that I'd ask for another take from you, even though I'm less interested because you have garnered significantly less trust from me.

That much could be fair. But I should go back and count how many times Tom said the SK thing is a null tell. I'm not surprised that doesn't mean much to Ulti. But it should mean enough to you. Tom mentioned it more than three separate times? Practically every time he posted (before your vote on me) since it was talked about so much at that time.

So I repeat, did you actually read?
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red13n posted...

Also I still have like 400 or something posts to read, and I think that is undershooting it. I'm going to reiterate how much I hate all of you.

When you think of it, Lolo is the real hero here

red13n posted...

Also you absolutely made it very clear last game there is a difference between "Roommate powers" and "generic reads". I was pretty obviously implying a question as to if there were any inklings to the former.

I'm going to retire using the phrase roommate powers, at least for the time being. If I ever vote Tom everyone should immediately take note and heavily weigh what they of Tom. And the same goes the oti way around. Also, if either of us specifically say don't vote for the other I think everyone should again consider what they think of us.

But I am not at the point that I think either of us can be as certain as we used to be.
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Regarding Scare's slot;;

It's clear Scare was reading along waiting to get replaced in so it doesn't surprise me that Scare was ready to burst with reads and takes

I think it's probably a good look that he did release all the takes and reads, instead of withholding them

Also, eaedwards, the player Scare replaced, seems to rarely visit this site

I've seen eaedwards play as both alignments on other sites, and inactivity is not alignment indicative

He is normally active as both alignments

I want to believe Scare is Town

Lea3Lea posted...

##Unvote

##Vote Scare

Neat

This vote is not counted due to lack of colon
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##Vote: Mzero

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

##Unvote

##Vote Scare

Neat

This vote is not counted due to lack of colon

People seem to really struggle with this.
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Camarija posted...

It's clear Scare was reading along waiting to get replaced in so it doesn't surprise me that Scare was ready to burst with reads and takes

I think it's probably a good look that he did release all the takes and reads, instead of withholding them

Is it still a good look if said takes and reads were all from the first two topics and that there wasn't a lot of following through on any of them? His grand entrance felt more gimmicky to me than truly about takes and reads. What say you?
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I'm expecting my friend to get off of work any minute, so I'm probably finished for the time being. Curiosity might get the better of me during a middle inning or such. I might pop in and check out end of day votals
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pezloco posted...

That much could be fair. But I should go back and count how many times Tom said the SK thing is a null tell. I'm not surprised that doesn't mean much to Ulti. But it should mean enough to you. Tom mentioned it more than three separate times? Practically every time he posted (before your vote on me) since it was talked about so much at that time.

So I repeat, did you actually read?

To him it is, to me it is not. Unless hes going to go "ROOMMATE POWERS NULL TELL" I don't have to take him at his word.

Truth be told, a good part of my brain wasn't actually off the hb train(Where has he been recently?) entirely. I wasn't necessarily coming after you hard(And I'm not sure I intend to press), the day just kind of seemed oddly stagnating(Yes, like a billion posts I know). So I threw down a vote on an angle that still seems pretty reasonable.
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pezloco posted...

But I am not at the point that I think either of us can be as certain as we used to be.

This is your reaction after being spot on last game?
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