Board 8 > English Literature Mafia: Topic 6

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I have some choice words for you Red

But for now, I will do everything in my power to see you voted out, or vigged in the game

In a vacuum, I don't feel dowolf is a particularly strong scum candidate but I'd probably lynch him over most of the game at this point if I had to. He feels like a less apologetic red right now that I haven't as carefully looked through the posts of, basically. Ironically being less apologetic makes him feel more townlike to me, relatively speaking, which is a big part of why red has my vote and dowolf does not, but yeah.

However the formation of that wagon on the drop of a dime based on I'm not sure what, along with the people voting it/supporting it and not voting it, makes me uneasy and I lean town now. Currently I oppose a dowolf lynch unless the opposition is obvtown.
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I actually don't see anything sketchy about that list from MZero

voting him for that seems odd to me

Apologetic isn't really in my repertoire, tbh. On that one you can talk to Chris.

I sill say people need to recalibrate their train alarms for a 21 person game. We're still splashing around in the kiddie pool with these 4 vote lynches. I feel like scum is completely in control of the flow today because of how little has happened. HB is the only push that actually went somewhere but for the most part people have been as unfocused as me. I'll join most lynches if they'll actually get traction, just so something happens and no that's not scummy, shut up
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Camarija posted...

I have some choice words for you Red

But for now, I will do everything in my power to see you voted out, or vigged in the game

If you have words just say them. You honestly scared me a bit last night because despite my harsh words i genuinely enjoy having you in the game. Thought you might have been having a legit breakdown or something.

turbopuns3 posted...

I actually don't see anything sketchy about that list from MZero

voting him for that seems odd to me

The lack of thought? Thinking Corrik and Lopen are obv-town, and Chris regular town? His only scum read being Eaed?
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RogueNoble posted...

I sill say people need to recalibrate their train alarms for a 21 person game. We're still splashing around in the kiddie pool with these 4 vote lynches. I feel like scum is completely in control of the flow today because of how little has happened. HB is the only push that actually went somewhere but for the most part people have been as unfocused as me. I'll join most lynches if they'll actually get traction, just so something happens and no that's not scummy, shut up

i mean that's basically why i'm still on MZero at this point.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Apologetic isn't really in my repertoire, tbh. On that one you can talk to Chris.

You've posted a lot about why you can't post. That's apologizing, for me. Dowolf hasn't really given any excuses.

Also based on that random flash mob out for dowolf blood I am more suspicious of:

Benjamin
Cam
Scare
red13n

Mostly the two (Ben and Cam) that expressed suspicion but DIDN'T vote, though.

Lea is a null tell because she's been doing it for everything. And yes I would like some lynches to get higher in number. I will gladly support a red13n or SBell lynch right now if anyone wants to go to either of those.
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I've broken the chains.

##unvote:
##vote: chris
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Corrik is a free elf!
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Lolo_Guru posted...

Who don't you like this game ben?

Mzero, dowolf, Corrik,

There's death who I never feel good about but he can wait for that very reason.

There's some more I don't have town reads on yet like you, Lopen, and Luis. But you haven't posted and the other two I have never played with and don't know their quirks
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Lopen, help me lynch eaed oh I mean Scare

Corrik7 posted...

I've broken the chains.

##unvote:
##vote: chris

well that's a plot twist.

Reason why?
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I do have to say ben's town stock dropped in my eyes when he said Scare is town based on him saying "my flavor is recent"

dowolf posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I've broken the chains.

##unvote:
##vote: chris

well that's a plot twist.

Reason why?

He isn't trying to find alignments out.
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How many votes does Scare have? Is it still 1? Come to red instead.
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##Unvote

##Vote: Red
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Lopen posted...

How many votes does Scare have? Is it still 1? Come to red instead.

I haven't been scum reading him much. What's the lynch pin on him?

htaeD posted...

Eww Scare voting Dowolf

What's your problem with Scare?
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What made you vote Mzero in the first place, dowolf?
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RogueNoble posted...

MZero11 posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

MZero11 posted...

Ooooh boy people are voting me for barely posting Day 1 again

Just like literally every game I've ever been in

I was unexpectedly busy yesterday so I haven't even started reading topic 3 yet so I guess I'll do that after work

MZero11 posted three hours ago...

I have finished work time to read topic 3

And most of topic 4!

Ok not to put too fine a point on this but it's getting pretty late in Japan by now

yeah I work pretty late

almost done with topic 3 yay

Lopen/Corrik/puns obvTown
Chris is probably town
eaed is probably scum

subject to change I still have over 500 posts to read

Like if you want to talk lists that feel like they were decided by blindfolded darts

Especially given the one Scum read, Eaed, had posted exactly as much content as Lolo and yet is scum why?
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benjamin3740 posted...

htaeD posted...

Eww Scare voting Dowolf

What's your problem with Scare?

I dislike his reasoning for attacking Puns and to a lesser extent, Lopen.
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Lopen posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Apologetic isn't really in my repertoire, tbh. On that one you can talk to Chris.

You've posted a lot about why you can't post. That's apologizing, for me. Dowolf hasn't really given any excuses.

Also based on that random flash mob out for dowolf blood I am more suspicious of:

Benjamin
Cam
Scare
red13n

Mostly the two (Ben and Cam) that expressed suspicion but DIDN'T vote, though.

Lea is a null tell because she's been doing it for everything. And yes I would like some lynches to get higher in number. I will gladly support a red13n or SBell lynch right now if anyone wants to go to either of those.

Do you remember topic 2 happening?

Camarija posted...

Pez is fine

##UNVOTE

##VOTE dowolf

Camarija posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

What did dowolf do

They seem unengaged

Asking leading questions that don't go anywhere in particular

Overall I've seen low impact from that player and I'd like to increase the pressure for something new and jazzy

benjamin3740 posted...

Especially given the one Scum read, Eaed, had posted exactly as much content as Lolo and yet is scum why?

You answered your own question.

Mind you that's not my read on Eaed but I assure you it is MZero's

turbopuns3 posted...

I haven't been scum reading him much. What's the lynch pin on him?

Think my initial post on the matter still largely applies.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77805002/923590534

tl;dr

Most of his posts till the last bit have been either saying he'd catch up on reading, apologizing for not being there for a reason, or stifling town momentum without taking a solid stand in defense and really bad Pez vote that seemed to be just for the sake of having a vote down after people were analyzing non-voters. Went after a fairly easy target and did it in a non-assertive way claiming he wanted a split lynch for research (when it clearly wasn't going to be one given the current gamestate)
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Lopen posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Apologetic isn't really in my repertoire, tbh. On that one you can talk to Chris.

You've posted a lot about why you can't post. That's apologizing, for me. Dowolf hasn't really given any excuses.

Also based on that random flash mob out for dowolf blood I am more suspicious of:

Benjamin
Cam
Scare
red13n

Mostly the two (Ben and Cam) that expressed suspicion but DIDN'T vote, though.

Lea is a null tell because she's been doing it for everything. And yes I would like some lynches to get higher in number. I will gladly support a red13n or SBell lynch right now if anyone wants to go to either of those.

Psst, I don't like to vote until I'm caught up. Which I actually made the mistake of doing last game and it led to my mislynch.
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I could see Chris being scum because his defense of inactives like Mzero and Eaed doesn't sit well with me. It gives me an uneasy feeling of past games where he dragged a weak scum team corpse over the finish line. I of course am too much of a timid sheep to pursue this, but someone should do something.
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Lynching inactive for being inactive is self-destructive, Lea.
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RogueNoble posted...

I could see Chris being scum because his defense of inactives like Mzero and Eaed doesn't sit well with me. It gives me an uneasy feeling of past games where he dragged a weak scum team corpse over the finish line. I of course am too much of a timid sheep to pursue this, but someone should do something.

Choo Choo lil sheep
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AT THE MOMENT OF READlNG

And I am too tired to even mentally process new suspects at this point.

Dowolf, Red, Scare... Mzero?
I dont suppose anyone is gonna be nice to the dutchman and claim any moment now?
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turbopuns3 posted...

AT THE MOMENT OF READlNG

laughing in real life
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Hbthebattle posted...

Lynching inactive for being inactive is self-destructive, Lea.

Not lynching inactives for being inactive is far more destructive. What incentive can there possibly be for scum to write down their thoughts and expose themselves if the winning move is simply not to play? Boy would our faces be read if Mzero is an extra kill and everyone just gave him a free pass while we mislynch some poor enthusiastic but unskilled townie
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turbopuns3 posted...

I do have to say ben's town stock dropped in my eyes when he said Scare is town based on him saying "my flavor is recent"

Bruh, just accept me as town and move along you're wasting your time -.-

What don't you like about me saying that? Scum doesn't use something off their safelist in the way Scare did to try and determine when the game was planned imo. It could lead to some kind of contradiction and get him caught. Like - "that's clearly a safe list role since Han picked it recently"
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Hey Ben, am I on your magical town list yet? :)
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I'm not saying you have to post 5000 times a game day. There are people who have posted good thoughts, infrequently. That's fine. But when your infrequent posts are all whatever the hell Lolo is talking about, or MZero's "sure these strong players are all town, I got the knack, also nobody posted anything scummy" and nothing else, well, that's not a great look for town
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turbopuns3 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Especially given the one Scum read, Eaed, had posted exactly as much content as Lolo and yet is scum why?

You answered your own question.

Mind you that's not my read on Eaed but I assure you it is MZero's

It doesn't make sense to me why any critically thinking member of town would see Eaed scum and not put Lolo in the same pile. Makes me think his reads were not piling in that logical order because he has the extra information and is faking the scum read.
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benjamin3740 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

I do have to say ben's town stock dropped in my eyes when he said Scare is town based on him saying "my flavor is recent"

Bruh, just accept me as town and move along you're wasting your time -.-

What don't you like about me saying that? Scum doesn't use something off their safelist in the way Scare did to try and determine when the game was planned imo. It could lead to some kind of contradiction and get him caught. Like - "that's clearly a safe list role since Han picked it recently"

I've only ever called you town so far in this game. bruh.

counterpoint 1) last game scum eaed hinted his flavor in like literally his first post because based on his role he already knew exactly which safe list character he was going to claim

and

counterpoint 2) that last line doesn't even make any sense how would that be a "gotcha" at all

Lea, there are other ways to handle inactive son the first day. Like letting them replace out. If they stay inactive and in the game you have an argument but lynching inactive D1 is just a coinflip
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benjamin3740 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Especially given the one Scum read, Eaed, had posted exactly as much content as Lolo and yet is scum why?

You answered your own question.

Mind you that's not my read on Eaed but I assure you it is MZero's

It doesn't make sense to me why any critically thinking member of town would see Eaed scum and not put Lolo in the same pile. Makes me think his reads were not piling in that logical order because he has the extra information and is faking the scum read.

^

It just feels like there's no thought process behind this post. I even asked him why he thought Corrik was obvtown, a notoriously hard to read player and his reason was "he's acting like Corrik"
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RogueNoble posted...

I could see Chris being scum because his defense of inactives like Mzero and Eaed doesn't sit well with me. It gives me an uneasy feeling of past games where he dragged a weak scum team corpse over the finish line. I of course am too much of a timid sheep to pursue this, but someone should do something.

You're voting red right now, right?
Do you see a Chris/Red scumteam likely?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Lea, there are other ways to handle inactive son the first day. Like letting them replace out. If they stay inactive and in the game you have an argument but lynching inactive D1 is just a coinflip

I'll take a coinflip when only 1/3rd of the game is scum~ That's +ev, probably
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benjamin3740 posted...

see Eaed scum and not put Lolo in the same pile.

oh I didn't get that angle of what you were saying. Would have been more clear if you'd said "why not Lolo" instead of "why eaed"

Eh I can see where your reasoning is coming from but I'm not lynching day 1 over that. He's a player who doesn't usually share a ton of thoughts anyway and if he's catching up over hundreds of posts it's not super surprising that he'd just jot names and leans down.

/shrug

Lolo_Guru posted...

RogueNoble posted...

I could see Chris being scum because his defense of inactives like Mzero and Eaed doesn't sit well with me. It gives me an uneasy feeling of past games where he dragged a weak scum team corpse over the finish line. I of course am too much of a timid sheep to pursue this, but someone should do something.

You're voting red right now, right?
Do you see a Chris/Red scumteam likely?

Could be, they really haven't interacted this game at all
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Chris, Ulti, Puns, the Mzero defense squad
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htaeD posted...

What made you vote Mzero in the first place, dowolf?

he hadn't done anything when he was around, i was invited to go on an adventure.

that's kinda it to be honest.
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RogueNoble posted...

Hey Ben, am I on your magical town list yet? :)

I lean town on you. I especially liked the post where you listed out the lynches and had an opinion on each one (terrible, good, great, etc.) Because it showed the range of your reads. Which was much more elaborate than "this person town, this person scum".

I feel scum is more likely to do that while town can much more easily rank who they want to kill in the way you did. (At least that's how I am).

So yes, you're worth keeping alive :)
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turbopuns3 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

I do have to say ben's town stock dropped in my eyes when he said Scare is town based on him saying "my flavor is recent"

Bruh, just accept me as town and move along you're wasting your time -.-

What don't you like about me saying that? Scum doesn't use something off their safelist in the way Scare did to try and determine when the game was planned imo. It could lead to some kind of contradiction and get him caught. Like - "that's clearly a safe list role since Han picked it recently"

I've only ever called you town so far in this game. bruh.

counterpoint 1) last game scum eaed hinted his flavor in like literally his first post because based on his role he already knew exactly which safe list character he was going to claim

and

counterpoint 2) that last line doesn't even make any sense how would that be a "gotcha" at all

Pfft, I don't know. You know all my town reads are gut reads and then I make up some bullshit why they're town, right?

(Kidding... mostly. That is how I feel about it sometimes)
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