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Leafeon13N
06/20/19 7:24:31 PM
#301:


Puns do i have to state the obvious on why an sbell lynch is a bad idea.
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:24:36 PM
#302:


dowolf posted...
man why are we arguing over whethrr corrik is corrik and not whethe ben gave himself aeay


this post just oozes scumwolf

by the by Dowolf has STILL not claimed

he is very bad at under pressure claims so the longer he goes the longer this is an issue
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dowolf
06/20/19 7:24:47 PM
#303:


benjamin3740 posted...
What do I have to do to make you see the town in me? Because I have refuted your accusationss against me and never really got a follow up

honestly? real offense that isn't just countervoting me would be nice.

like your "refutations" are very much of the vein "but this is what I always do" which doesn't really mean anything to me.
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benjamin3740
06/20/19 7:24:48 PM
#304:


turbopuns3 posted...
##Unvote
##Vote: SBell


I've looked over the list, weighed the options, considered the consequences, checked my own gut.

This is the one. Right here.

I gotta bounce in a few minutes but like I said I'll be on my phone right before deadline I hope that's not scummy ha...ha ha....hahaha.

What do you think about Chris pushing him? A bus?
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:25:20 PM
#305:


I need votals
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Lopen
06/20/19 7:25:23 PM
#306:


##Unvote:
##Vote: SBell


I'll take this one. MOMENTUM, GO.
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turbopuns3
06/20/19 7:25:24 PM
#307:


ScareChan posted...
Dowolf outright admitting to not want to vote you right away before doing ANYTHING is bothersome


Honestly I have purposefully ignored him completely

Entirely for selfish IRL reasons
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dowolf
06/20/19 7:26:11 PM
#308:


man i play games to have fun.

ROOMMATE POWERS is going to be fun or silly or at least something.

so yeah. not gonna apologize for that!
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:26:14 PM
#309:


dowolf posted...
RogueNoble posted...
dowolf posted...
well i bet ben will be getting out of work soon so.


Do you have non-Ben thoughts or are you still busy?

not really no. no other arg has been very convincing

also ive bern around. save for a few hours when i was driving anyways. dunno why youre being snippy with me


All he wants to do is beat on ben
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RogueNoble
06/20/19 7:26:17 PM
#310:


Lopen is my captain

##Unvote

##Vote: Sbell

I, TOO, AM WACKY

Chris did a masterful job of defusing the train on him
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benjamin3740
06/20/19 7:26:35 PM
#311:


ScareChan posted...
Looks like topic 3 Dowolf went after Ben, who is a very safe person to persue. At this time I think Ben is town so thats another mark against him

First person chris attacked. If Chris is town, I can understand scum thinking im a target because of that.
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:26:56 PM
#312:


turbopuns3 posted...
ScareChan posted...
Dowolf outright admitting to not want to vote you right away before doing ANYTHING is bothersome


Honestly I have purposefully ignored him completely

Entirely for selfish IRL reasons


and you dont think thats something that other people will note and form opinions on?
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DoomTheGyarados
06/20/19 7:28:59 PM
#313:


Back!

Lea:

It is interesting that you call my note on eaed a "defense of eaed and inactives" when really it is very established and smart meta to, if available, allow replacements to fill those slots rather than roll the dice. And so it has done as I wanted it to, brought us a strong player who we can actually hold to account.

As for Mzero, I suppose the nuance of "you haven't said anything that's out of town mzero's range in any way" is lost on you. I talk precisely for a reason.
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benjamin3740
06/20/19 7:29:25 PM
#314:


dowolf posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
What do I have to do to make you see the town in me? Because I have refuted your accusationss against me and never really got a follow up

honestly? real offense that isn't just countervoting me would be nice.

like your "refutations" are very much of the vein "but this is what I always do" which doesn't really mean anything to me.

I've never voted you.

The biggest thing you accused me of is being weak with the HB defense. I don't think calling him CONFIRMED TOWN is weak. I call it like I see it. I think his claiming vanilla was a town confirming event
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:30:32 PM
#316:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Okay I've seen enough.

##Unvote
##Vote: Lea


How many times has Lea voted this game? 30?


who would you rather lynch between puns/ dowolf
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DoomTheGyarados
06/20/19 7:30:49 PM
#317:


dowolf posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Not a dumb post at all. Last game I was "the main character", town vanilla. I, of all people, would be able to immediately look at a claim of Harry Potter, vanilla, and not want to lynch it.

Tom was in last game and this game. He should know this. Him calling it weird is super sketch.

hey chris remember One Piece Mafia?


How I knew the flavor in and out, had Luffy on the safelist, and had someone claim Luffy: Mason Recruiter and swept the game.
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RogueNoble
06/20/19 7:30:50 PM
#318:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Back!

Lea:

It is interesting that you call my note on eaed a "defense of eaed and inactives" when really it is very established and smart meta to, if available, allow replacements to fill those slots rather than roll the dice. And so it has done as I wanted it to, brought us a strong player who we can actually hold to account.

As for Mzero, I suppose the nuance of "you haven't said anything that's out of town mzero's range in any way" is lost on you. I talk precisely for a reason.


But someone said you last minuted murdered an inactive as town in a recent game. There is no smoking gun on mzero, but there will never be one if he is declared off limits, which I feel like he was.
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HanOfTheNekos
06/20/19 7:30:52 PM
#319:


Votals (as of post #315):
(4) SBell: (Corrik), (puns), (Lea), Chris, puns, Lopen, Lea
(3) Dowolf: (Cam), (Cam), (ben), Scare, (Lea), Red, Death
(3) Lea: (Cam), (Corrik), (Cam), (puns), (Chris), Tom, Hb, (5tar), (Scare), (Scare), Ulti
(2) red: Cam, pezloco, (Lopen), (Lea), (Lea), (Lopen), (Lea)
(2) MZero: (Lea), (Lea), (Lea), Ben, dowolf, (Cam), (Lea), (Lea), (Death), (Lea)
(2) Ben: (Chris), (Corrik), (Lea), (dowolf), 5tar, (Chris), Luis
(2) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns), Sultan, (Scare), Corrik, (puns), (Lea)
(1) Lopen: (Ulti), (Hb), (SBell), (Scare), SBell, (Ulti)
(0) Tom: (Ulti)
(0) pezloco: (Ulti), (red)
(0) Scare: (5tar), (puns), (Lea)
(0) Hb: (Chris), (Lea), (puns), (Tom), (Corrik), (Death), (Cam), (Corrik)
(0) Sultan: (pezloco), (SBell), (Luis)
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Corrik), (Ulti), (Scare), (Lea)
(0) Cam: (Lopen), (Lea), (Sbell)
(0) Death: (Lea), (Chris)
(0) Lolo: (Lea), (Cam)
(0) Corrik: (Sultan)
(0) No Lynch: (pezloco), (Tom), (Lopen)
(0) Luis: (Lea)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen), (Hb), (Scare)


With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to reach majority! The day will end on Thursday at 9 pm EDT, or if majority is reached, whichever comes first.


Note: I am tired and trying to get votals to be correct, there may be errors at the moment.

Also day ends in roughly 90 minutes.
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Obellisk
06/20/19 7:31:33 PM
#320:


I never grow tired of scum jumping on the bell train.

Alll aboard.

Let's get the womp womp town sbell mislynch out of the way.

This one's for you Han.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/20/19 7:31:50 PM
#321:


What I find worrying about Lea is their framing of things. Lopen says "Chris has been logical and active" and Lea spins this as "Chris is too good to lynch!" when that's not the argument.
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:32:13 PM
#322:


dowolf posted...
Okay. On a keyboard. Life is good and full of chocolate.

ANYWAYS the argument against Ben (which is from over an hour ago, there's your problem) is basically: Ben came in arguing fairly weakly against lynching HB, but didn't push for any alternative lynch, despite actively voting Chris. This reads to me as someone who wants to be seen as opposing the lynch, rather than actually stopping it. He's also been at work for a really long time tbqh.


I am INSULTED that DOWOLF of ALL people would say "hey someone is at work for a long time arent they?"

The man who says that if he is gone for 6 minutes people say he is lurking and he freaks out because people have lives.

You said yourself you were busy but you use that against someone else when thet outlined their own stuff?

This is weak and oppertune and I am having none of it
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RogueNoble
06/20/19 7:32:35 PM
#323:


Sure it is, if he's saying you'll just be killed at night if you're town so why bother going after you now
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DoomTheGyarados
06/20/19 7:33:01 PM
#324:


RogueNoble posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Back!

Lea:

It is interesting that you call my note on eaed a "defense of eaed and inactives" when really it is very established and smart meta to, if available, allow replacements to fill those slots rather than roll the dice. And so it has done as I wanted it to, brought us a strong player who we can actually hold to account.

As for Mzero, I suppose the nuance of "you haven't said anything that's out of town mzero's range in any way" is lost on you. I talk precisely for a reason.


But someone said you last minuted murdered an inactive as town in a recent game. There is no smoking gun on mzero, but there will never be one if he is declared off limits, which I feel like he was.


How recent? I haven't played the game here in some time. Also last minute murdering (ie no replacement was found) is a bit different than "wait for a replacement when several good ones are on the list."
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:33:02 PM
#325:


(4) SBell: (Corrik), (puns), (Lea), Chris, puns, Lopen, Lea

Yikes this wagon looks like puke
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benjamin3740
06/20/19 7:33:36 PM
#326:


Obellisk posted...
I never grow tired of scum jumping on the bell train.

Alll aboard.

Let's get the womp womp town sbell mislynch out of the way.

This one's for you Han.

This is weird. Why are you trying reverse psychology as your defense?
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:33:39 PM
#327:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
RogueNoble posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Back!

Lea:

It is interesting that you call my note on eaed a "defense of eaed and inactives" when really it is very established and smart meta to, if available, allow replacements to fill those slots rather than roll the dice. And so it has done as I wanted it to, brought us a strong player who we can actually hold to account.

As for Mzero, I suppose the nuance of "you haven't said anything that's out of town mzero's range in any way" is lost on you. I talk precisely for a reason.


But someone said you last minuted murdered an inactive as town in a recent game. There is no smoking gun on mzero, but there will never be one if he is declared off limits, which I feel like he was.


How recent? I haven't played the game here in some time. Also last minute murdering (ie no replacement was found) is a bit different than "wait for a replacement when several good ones are on the list."


I was scum with Red, Battle. and I forget the others. You were town with Han and FD
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DoomTheGyarados
06/20/19 7:33:41 PM
#328:


RogueNoble posted...
Sure it is, if he's saying you'll just be killed at night if you're town so why bother going after you now


That was only 1/3 of his argument. I think Lopen really liked the whole 'chris has been reasoned and active' bit, but he threw in 'but even if you're extra paranoid there's also this.'
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RogueNoble
06/20/19 7:33:42 PM
#329:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
RogueNoble posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Back!

Lea:

It is interesting that you call my note on eaed a "defense of eaed and inactives" when really it is very established and smart meta to, if available, allow replacements to fill those slots rather than roll the dice. And so it has done as I wanted it to, brought us a strong player who we can actually hold to account.

As for Mzero, I suppose the nuance of "you haven't said anything that's out of town mzero's range in any way" is lost on you. I talk precisely for a reason.


But someone said you last minuted murdered an inactive as town in a recent game. There is no smoking gun on mzero, but there will never be one if he is declared off limits, which I feel like he was.


How recent? I haven't played the game here in some time. Also last minute murdering (ie no replacement was found) is a bit different than "wait for a replacement when several good ones are on the list."


ScareChan posted...
RogueNoble posted...
I could see Chris being scum because his defense of inactives like Mzero and Eaed doesn't sit well with me. It gives me an uneasy feeling of past games where he dragged a weak scum team corpse over the finish line. I of course am too much of a timid sheep to pursue this, but someone should do something.


HB's first game Chris actually went out of his way at EOD to let scum me off the hook to take the head of an inactive. Chris was town that game. So a different view on inactives is interesting but not sure how much it speaks to chris alignment. Its been a while since then

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Obellisk
06/20/19 7:33:44 PM
#330:


ScareChan posted...
(4) SBell: (Corrik), (puns), (Lea), Chris, puns, Lopen, Lea

Yikes this wagon looks like puke


I know right.

Its pretty laughable.
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:34:17 PM
#331:


dowolf posted...
Hbthebattle posted...

Given the recent popularity of using Discord for dead/scum chats, I find it hard to believe such a slip could occur.

wait wut? that's a thing now?


Derp clear DENIED
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RogueNoble
06/20/19 7:34:42 PM
#332:


benjamin3740 posted...
Obellisk posted...
I never grow tired of scum jumping on the bell train.

Alll aboard.

Let's get the womp womp town sbell mislynch out of the way.

This one's for you Han.

This is weird. Why are you trying reverse psychology as your defense?


It's double weird because he got all frowny at me literally this morning when he thought I was too mopey. Note: I was not nearly this mopey
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DoomTheGyarados
06/20/19 7:34:51 PM
#333:


I will say playing on Mafia Universe has informed me a bit more on replacements when available.
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turbopuns3
06/20/19 7:35:23 PM
#334:


Leafeon13N posted...
Puns do i have to state the obvious on why an sbell lynch is a bad idea.


Wait a second.

Do you guys say

ess bell
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benjamin3740
06/20/19 7:35:44 PM
#335:


ScareChan posted...
dowolf posted...
Okay. On a keyboard. Life is good and full of chocolate.

ANYWAYS the argument against Ben (which is from over an hour ago, there's your problem) is basically: Ben came in arguing fairly weakly against lynching HB, but didn't push for any alternative lynch, despite actively voting Chris. This reads to me as someone who wants to be seen as opposing the lynch, rather than actually stopping it. He's also been at work for a really long time tbqh.


I am INSULTED that DOWOLF of ALL people would say "hey someone is at work for a long time arent they?"

The man who says that if he is gone for 6 minutes people say he is lurking and he freaks out because people have lives.

You said yourself you were busy but you use that against someone else when thet outlined their own stuff?

This is weak and oppertune and I am having none of it

You're reminding me why I've not felt Dowolf's push on me has been genuine
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Obellisk
06/20/19 7:36:01 PM
#336:


RogueNoble posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Obellisk posted...
I never grow tired of scum jumping on the bell train.

Alll aboard.

Let's get the womp womp town sbell mislynch out of the way.

This one's for you Han.

This is weird. Why are you trying reverse psychology as your defense?


It's double weird because he got all frowny at me literally this morning when he thought I was too mopey. Note: I was not nearly this mopey


Again.

This isn't mope.

I'm enjoying this.

All of it.

Do you know how telling an sbell lynch is day one.

Town's gunna win this game.
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:36:22 PM
#337:


Thats how I say it, yeah. Ess Bell
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DoomTheGyarados
06/20/19 7:37:06 PM
#338:


ScareChan posted...
Thats how I say it, yeah. Ess Bell

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Obellisk
06/20/19 7:37:11 PM
#339:


How else would you say it? Sbell like spell?
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benjamin3740
06/20/19 7:37:33 PM
#340:


turbopuns3 posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
Puns do i have to state the obvious on why an sbell lynch is a bad idea.


Wait a second.

Do you guys say

ess bell

I DO
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Lopen
06/20/19 7:37:51 PM
#341:


Currently I'm very annoyed that no lynches can get above 4.
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benjamin3740
06/20/19 7:38:03 PM
#342:


Obellisk posted...
RogueNoble posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Obellisk posted...
I never grow tired of scum jumping on the bell train.

Alll aboard.

Let's get the womp womp town sbell mislynch out of the way.

This one's for you Han.

This is weird. Why are you trying reverse psychology as your defense?


It's double weird because he got all frowny at me literally this morning when he thought I was too mopey. Note: I was not nearly this mopey


Again.

This isn't mope.

I'm enjoying this.

All of it.

Do you know how telling an sbell lynch is day one.

Town's gunna win this game.

SO DOES HE PHEW
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RogueNoble
06/20/19 7:38:10 PM
#343:


Like Sbaghetti

So, Lolo is not being replaced, but is not really doing much besides asking questions that go nowhere

What does that count as?
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ScareChan
06/20/19 7:38:12 PM
#344:


dowolf posted...
man in my entire life i have never seen anyone accidentally post in the main topic instead of the scumboard.

like find me one example of this happening or i am going to just keep rolling my eyes at you.


This legit happened in one of the champs games at MU (Not the one I am in, its a completed one so its okay for me to mention it)
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benjamin3740
06/20/19 7:38:51 PM
#345:


I'll kill Mzero or Dowolf. Who are we killing
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turbopuns3
06/20/19 7:39:10 PM
#346:


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DoomTheGyarados
06/20/19 7:39:15 PM
#348:


turbopuns3 posted...
I have only grown more sure that Chris is scum since my initial call out on him tbh. I was at least waiting to see if he had some highly convincing grand conclusion to the day to wow us all with his amazing scum lynching powers.

buuut...k

##Unvote
##Vote: Chris


There was a comment he made about having sat on the Hb lynch a while were he was like "I don't care how many people cry about it as long as my logic hasn't been refuted" which overall feels kinda like just trying to not have to do any more scum hunting than is needed if you've already caught one. I don't think that's a thing Town should really be saying on Day 1.

Plus the point I already said earlier about him asking for lists. It was just kindling to let him go "hmmmm!" in a grandstanding kinda way and then make a big list and go "look guys I'm getting places"

Chris let's see what ya got.


My favorite thing about this summation is I give a numbered list, and instead of someone scrutinizing it heavily to see if it holds up with what I am thinking or my progression you just go "big list big deal" despite my asking for list actively changed two suspicions to more town leans and sank Sbell for me tremendously.

It is almost criminal the level of summation that goes on from what I post to how it is taken by you.
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turbopuns3
06/20/19 7:39:23 PM
#349:


Ok volleyball now
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Obellisk
06/20/19 7:39:28 PM
#350:


Scare, how confident on dowolf are you?
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