Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 7: Dedicated to Delseban

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Lea3Lea posted...

If we lynch Corrik we can see if master mafia player Mzero is as good as he says he is~

IF we lynch him right now we might be able tostart Day 3 by tomorrow morning.
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Obellisk posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

If we lynch Corrik we can see if master mafia player Mzero is as good as he says he is~

IF we lynch him right now we might be able tostart Day 3 by tomorrow morning.

lmao

Sbell you're alright

Lea3Lea posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

If we lynch Corrik we can see if master mafia player Mzero is as good as he says he is~

IF we lynch him right now we might be able tostart Day 3 by tomorrow morning.

lmao

Sbell you're alright

It's a lynch even Corrik can love.
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Oh! Thank you Ulti I'm just now realizing that 5star is the guy I missed last night. I'd have put him in my town list
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Votals (as of post 250)
(1) Lopen: Lea
(1) SBell: Chris
(1) Chris: Corrik

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Hey Chris, hows it feel getting your balls jiggled by ben?

still got them warm fuzzy town feelings ?
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Seriously though where did Luis defend Sbell? I'm on mobile so if you could at least give me a rough time it occurred.
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I can't believe you jerks made dowolf use his power when he was hoping to save it for me later.

I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed.

Gf needs my attention, giving it to her.

Talk among yourselves.
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Lopen posted...

Seriously though where did Luis defend Sbell? I'm on mobile so if you could at least give me a rough time it occurred.

towards eod I think.
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turbopuns3 posted...

I can't believe you jerks made dowolf use his power when he was hoping to save it for me later.

I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed.

Disappointed that Chris killed the Scum Redirector?

WEll fuck, guess you be scum too.
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Luis_Sera89 posted...

I agree that this is completely rudderless right now. I'd prefer Ben but I'd reluctantly go with MZero for a better shot of salvaging some info out of today. I'm not convinced SBell is scum and I think we'd learn less in the event he flips town.

@DoomTheGyarados ^5

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@Lopen I owe you an ISO. I didn't even finish catching up. But I did reread those exchanges you had with Ulti.

UltimaterializerX posted...

(4) red: Lopen
(1) Cam: (Lopen)
(0) No Lynch: (Lopen)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen)

For reference. Why is this important?

(1) Hb: (Chris), (Lea), (puns), (Tom), (Corrik), (Death), (Cam), Corrik

Lopen has no problem voting for me, Red, or Cam, but he hasn't voted for HB who he supposedly thinks is scum. There was also that nonsense about how skipping 400 posts and mentioning SK isn't a big deal.

Lopen posted...

If you actually read posts you'd know I only didn't vote because I felt it was unnecessary at the time (and because he's a deadly target bomb). If you want me on the voting log for him I can do a quick vote and unvote before the end of the day.

Lopen posted...

You're right. As the main guy who pushed for his lynch obviously not voting him will dissociate me from the lynch. Great plays by Lopen to avoid suspicion.

I actually would've been more relieved if you had done the vote/unvote. I stand by saying that voting a person and "leading" the lynch on him are two different things. Still on my scum radar.

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I see no reason that I shouldn't keep my vote on Red though. Red knows how roommate powers work. He knows how we read each other. If Tom says it's a null tell on me about the SK stuff Red should pick up on it. Red claims he missed Tom saying that. Of course that's possible, there was a lot of content. But Tom mentioned it a lot before Red's vote on me. So, if Red missed it, it was because he didn't read through it. Town Red who thinks he has scum is more thorough. Scum Red who wants to look active isn't necessarily as thorough.

I don't like placing votes this early in the day. But Red's still my top suspect.
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Red basically has the same D1 nonsense as Luis, including literally stealing his thunder on not liking Pez for questionable reasons so I'm still down to lynch him

Lea3Lea posted...

Luis_Sera89 posted...

I agree that this is completely rudderless right now. I'd prefer Ben but I'd reluctantly go with MZero for a better shot of salvaging some info out of today. I'm not convinced SBell is scum and I think we'd learn less in the event he flips town.

Sounds like Scum that KNOWS i'm going to flip town and believes that that flip wont give scum anything juicy. Also sounsd like MZero is town in that post and Ben is likely scum.

But i suppose i'm biased.
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@Tom_Bombadil I'm finishing putting my kids to bed. You going to be around in like 1.5 hours?
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So here's all my NOT town reads as of yet.

Mzero
Corrik
Lolo
Death
Pez
Sbell
Lopen

And I expect ALL (4 or 5) of the scum are in there. YEP. All of em.
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Obellisk posted...

Oh right, I can't be upset that you took a chance instead of killing a fake claim designed to pander to you? Thats level headed.

Lets try again,

Oh great and powerful chris, thank you for killing a scum, which you had no idea was actually scum unless you are scum yourself. Luck will forever be on your side.

what

The entire game of mafia is based on reads and not knowing 100%

You're really reaching here. The dude killed scum power. And also you can't know "it was a fake claimed pandered to him" unless you are scum yourself!

##Vote: SBell

Good bye salty scum
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Who is your top scum suspect today SBell? Still me?
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Obellisk posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Luis_Sera89 posted...

I agree that this is completely rudderless right now. I'd prefer Ben but I'd reluctantly go with MZero for a better shot of salvaging some info out of today. I'm not convinced SBell is scum and I think we'd learn less in the event he flips town.

Sounds like Scum that KNOWS i'm going to flip town and believes that that flip wont give scum anything juicy. Also sounsd like MZero is town in that post and Ben is likely scum.

But i suppose i'm biased.

I disagree with the Mzero and Ben conclusion because of his latter talk of who Chris should kill:

Luis_Sera89 posted...

OK, if it were me I'd lynch puns on principal in the hope it'd stop people claiming Miller Day 1 and inviting the sideshow it brings. If I was feeling more rational I'd say that Ben's claim was very "ehh...", Scare wouldn't be the biggest loss but I'm not leaning scum on him, Lea I'm slowly warming too because I'm having a harder time seeing someone play so brazenly as scum, and who knows about Corrik but there's probably greater gains from keeping him alive than lynching him Day 1.

Scare is confirmed town, I'm town, I reluctantly admit Puns is probably town despite my Punsanoia, I feel good about Ben, Corrik is pretty frowny face.

But he does NOT mention Mzero here.

Oh wait I forgot Red. Throw him in I guess
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MZero11 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Oh right, I can't be upset that you took a chance instead of killing a fake claim designed to pander to you? Thats level headed.

Lets try again,

Oh great and powerful chris, thank you for killing a scum, which you had no idea was actually scum unless you are scum yourself. Luck will forever be on your side.

what

The entire game of mafia is based on reads and not knowing 100%

You're really reaching here. The dude killed scum power. And also you can't know "it was a fake claimed pandered to him" unless you are scum yourself!

##Vote: SBell

Good bye salty scum

Are you the only one who doesn't have a problem with my flavour? That's unusual solely for the uniqueness of it

Lopen posted...

Who is your top scum suspect today SBell? Still me?

No actually, the immediate vote by Lea really dropped you on the list. Not really seeing what she's getting at there.

Today I'm focusing on people surrounding Luis and Scare. Right now that is Sultan, Ben and Lea. Sultan at the bottom of the pile though because its been brought to my attention that apparently i always default him to scum and i'm always wrong.

Ben i'm having serious doubts on. and Lea, for the claim and the vote on you to start the day.

And now i get to be the center of attention bceause apparently i'm Salty and Annoyed. Day 2, coming at ya.
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Obellisk posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Luis_Sera89 posted...

I agree that this is completely rudderless right now. I'd prefer Ben but I'd reluctantly go with MZero for a better shot of salvaging some info out of today. I'm not convinced SBell is scum and I think we'd learn less in the event he flips town.

Sounds like Scum that KNOWS i'm going to flip town and believes that that flip wont give scum anything juicy. Also sounsd like MZero is town in that post and Ben is likely scum.

But i suppose i'm biased.

Biased toward what? You like Mzero, or do you hate me that hard? D:
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MZero11 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Oh right, I can't be upset that you took a chance instead of killing a fake claim designed to pander to you? Thats level headed.

Lets try again,

Oh great and powerful chris, thank you for killing a scum, which you had no idea was actually scum unless you are scum yourself. Luck will forever be on your side.

what

The entire game of mafia is based on reads and not knowing 100%

You're really reaching here. The dude killed scum power. And also you can't know "it was a fake claimed pandered to him" unless you are scum yourself!

##Vote: SBell

Good bye salty scum

Such fake. Would kill on any given Saturday
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oh man i was so confident i would be dead right now that i didn't do what i should've done and ISO Luis yesterday when I had time.

let's see if i can get it done tonight before family makes me Do Things (tm)
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Obellisk posted...

Lopen posted...

Who is your top scum suspect today SBell? Still me?

No actually, the immediate vote by Lea really dropped you on the list. Not really seeing what she's getting at there.

Today I'm focusing on people surrounding Luis and Scare. Right now that is Sultan, Ben and Lea. Sultan at the bottom of the pile though because its been brought to my attention that apparently i always default him to scum and i'm always wrong.

Ben i'm having serious doubts on. and Lea, for the claim and the vote on you to start the day.

And now i get to be the center of attention bceause apparently i'm Salty and Annoyed. Day 2, coming at ya.

You know I explained the reasons for the vote in the post, right? I thought Luis was scummy AF day one and I specifically asked Lopen about it, who disagreed. Now it's a bad look and I think he may just be a highly skilled scum player.

benjamin3740 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Luis_Sera89 posted...

I agree that this is completely rudderless right now. I'd prefer Ben but I'd reluctantly go with MZero for a better shot of salvaging some info out of today. I'm not convinced SBell is scum and I think we'd learn less in the event he flips town.

Sounds like Scum that KNOWS i'm going to flip town and believes that that flip wont give scum anything juicy. Also sounsd like MZero is town in that post and Ben is likely scum.

But i suppose i'm biased.

Biased toward what? You like Mzero, or do you hate me that hard? D:

Sounds like he knows i'm town. But i'm biased, since i'm talking about myself.
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Lea3Lea posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lopen posted...

Who is your top scum suspect today SBell? Still me?

No actually, the immediate vote by Lea really dropped you on the list. Not really seeing what she's getting at there.

Today I'm focusing on people surrounding Luis and Scare. Right now that is Sultan, Ben and Lea. Sultan at the bottom of the pile though because its been brought to my attention that apparently i always default him to scum and i'm always wrong.

Ben i'm having serious doubts on. and Lea, for the claim and the vote on you to start the day.

And now i get to be the center of attention bceause apparently i'm Salty and Annoyed. Day 2, coming at ya.

You know I explained the reasons for the vote in the post, right? I thought Luis was scummy AF day one and I specifically asked Lopen about it, who disagreed. Now it's a bad look and I think he may just be a highly skilled scum player.

I didn't see a difference in the beginning of day / end of day posts. I just saw Lopen not having a strong enough read on Luis, as I didn't either, as frankly it would appear any of us did, except i guess Chris, who killed him.
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How am I alive lmfao

Anyway

I did some spew analysis

##Vote: Sbell

Ah okay. Well, you're mine for now. Luis's very non-committal defense of you after the only input on you I could recall from earlier in the day was negative makes you look considerably worse. And you already looked bad to me.

But this is just an opener I have to read Luis posts from day 1. Could've done it at night were I on task but I wasn't. When I get back on my PC.
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TLDR of Luis Spew:

Town:
Camarija,
Lea3Lea,
DoomTheGyarados,
Turbopuns,
Lopen

Probably Town:
Benjamin,
Sultan,
Scare,
Hbthebattle

Slight Lean Town:
Death,
Obellisk

???:
MZero,
Red

LOL:
Tom Bombadi

l!!!!:
Mafia have exactly 6 players, probably no SK, and sorry to disappoint but no lost wolf

Obellisk posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lopen posted...

Who is your top scum suspect today SBell? Still me?

No actually, the immediate vote by Lea really dropped you on the list. Not really seeing what she's getting at there.

Today I'm focusing on people surrounding Luis and Scare. Right now that is Sultan, Ben and Lea. Sultan at the bottom of the pile though because its been brought to my attention that apparently i always default him to scum and i'm always wrong.

Ben i'm having serious doubts on. and Lea, for the claim and the vote on you to start the day.

And now i get to be the center of attention bceause apparently i'm Salty and Annoyed. Day 2, coming at ya.

You know I explained the reasons for the vote in the post, right? I thought Luis was scummy AF day one and I specifically asked Lopen about it, who disagreed. Now it's a bad look and I think he may just be a highly skilled scum player.

I didn't see a difference in the beginning of day / end of day posts. I just saw Lopen not having a strong enough read on Luis, as I didn't either, as frankly it would appear any of us did, except i guess Chris, who killed him.

One was just an example of Lopen declaring Luis off limits, before Luis had done too much. Then, even after Luis had done several scummy things, he interpreted them positively instead of negatively. To me, this suggests strong roleblocker aversion

MZero11 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Oh right, I can't be upset that you took a chance instead of killing a fake claim designed to pander to you? Thats level headed.

Lets try again,

Oh great and powerful chris, thank you for killing a scum, which you had no idea was actually scum unless you are scum yourself. Luck will forever be on your side.

what

The entire game of mafia is based on reads and not knowing 100%

You're really reaching here. The dude killed scum power. And also you can't know "it was a fake claimed pandered to him" unless you are scum yourself!

##Vote: SBell

Good bye salty scum

Also, very aggresive from you MZero. I like to see that.
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CLIFF NOTES:

Topic 1 - Post 95
Throws suspicion on Turbopuns

Topic 1 - Post 123
Justifies suspicion on Turbopuns and leaks that Mafia have watertight fake claims

Topic 2 - Post 136
Throws minor suspicion on Red13N and leaks that Mafia have exactly 6 players

Topic 2 - Post 138
Luis Sera puts suspicion on Benjamin and defends Tom

Topic 2 - Post 218
Benjamin defends self from Luis Sera

Topic 2 - Post 242
Lea3Lea brings Luis into the spotlight, Lopen and Ulti talk him up as a seasoned veteran, Lopen particularly calls for people to listen to him

Topic 2 - Post 247
Lea3Lea mounts offense against Luis_Sera89

Topic 2 - Post 299
Lea3Lea votes for Luis_Sera89

Topic 2 - Post 300
Sultan wants reasoning for Lea3Leas vote, to which Lea refers them to Post 247

Topic 2 - Post 302
Sultana gives Lea a town read completely lying about having picked up on the same thing:: NOTE, he didnt, see Topic 2 - Post 285

Lopen posted...

##Vote: Sbell

Ah okay. Well, you're mine for now. Luis's very non-committal defense of you after the only input on you I could recall from earlier in the day was negative makes you look considerably worse. And you already looked bad to me.

But this is just an opener I have to read Luis posts from day 1. Could've done it at night were I on task but I wasn't. When I get back on my PC.

No hard feelings, i certainly deserve it.
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CLIFF NOTES (PART 2):

Topic 3 - Post 169
Luis Sera puts suspicion on TheSultanofSlam for voting Corrik

Topic 4 - Post 3
Camarija had been narrowing down a list of unknowns and calls out Lolo_Guru, Luis_Sera, eaedwards6400, and Obellisk to post more

Topic 4 - Post 82
Luis Sera throws suspicion on Camarija

Topic 4 - Post 111
Luis Sera questions Camarija

Topic 4 - Post 131
Luis_Sera asks Camarija why he (I) originally brought up Lost Wolf despite answering that question multiple times while Camarija was receiving aggression from multiple players at that time [Topic 4 - Post 46 / Post 53 / Post 98 / etc.]

Topic 4 - Post 170
Camarija makes a list with just two Mafia leans, one of which is Luis_Sera with the following rationale:
Low Impact in general, I feel they just jumped onto my bandwagon when it suited them to slip in and slip out discretely

Topic 4 - Post 199
Camarija pushes for Lea to add Luis_Sera to her Scum list

Topic 4 - Post 274
Camarija posted
I was originally thinking Luis could get vigged and no one would cry

Topic 4 - Post 310
Luis Sera soft defends Lopen, and soft attacks SBell, while simultaneously ignoring Camarija who had mentioned Luis_Sera multiple times

Topic 4 - Post 319
At this stage after Camarija has been pestering Luis_Sera pretty hard, Red decides to fetishize violence against Camarija, imagining kicking his teeth in. Im 100% certain this was a psychological tactic in order to stop Camarija from being an absolute legend of the game. Otherwise, Red is just a major jerk and how is this even allowed in the game in the first place? In every event Red should feel absolutely embarrassed for treating a fellow player like this. If he is Town, he should be especially red in the face for what he did considering the timing. If he is Mafia, then he is absolutely disgraceful.

Topic 4 - Post 357
Luis throws random information instead of analysis directed against Hbthebattle

Topic 4 - Post 358
5starscream supports Luis

Topic 4 - Post 440
Throws suspicion on Lea3Lea, also demonstrates that theyve been reading the thread (or at least searching for their name)

Topic 4 - Post 445
Tom Bombadil wants to sheep Luis_Sera89, despite later saying in Post 454:
19. Luis_Sera: Is smart. No idea on alignment

Lea3Lea posted...

Then, even after Luis had done several scummy things, he interpreted them positively instead of negatively.

Name them please
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CLIFF NOTES (PART 3):

Topic 5 - Post 124
DoomTheGyarados asks Death for 3 Mafia, to which Death includes one Town, one Mafia, and a player who only posted once. (Camarija!Town, Luis_Sera!Mafia, Eaedward!OnlyPostedOnce) - Im not sure if you have something called The Rule of Three, but normally when prompted to list 3 Mafia, Mafia themselves will include one Mafia in a list of 3.

Topic 5 - Post 171 / 172 / 178
At the top of this page, DoomTheGyarados insinuates he wants to pursue Sultan and there is some momentum going that way. Luis Sera then makes a post pushing Sultan and then votes Sultan. It feels very opportunistic. Soft defense of DoomTheGyarados as well. Continues pushing Sultan.

Topic 5 - Post 173/ 179 /187 /191
Lea3Lea asks Luis simple question which Luis keeps ignoring until forced to answer in 187 with some nonsense, and then Lea realizes Luis is just talking nonsense in Post 191

Topic 5 - Post 199
Lopen questions Luis_Seras scum read on Sultan

Topic 5 - Post 224
Defends his position to Lopen, saying Sultan is assuredly Mafia

Topic 5 - Post 333
Lea3Lea lists Luis_Sera in top 5 Mafia suspects:
4. Red13n
6. SBell (Obellisk)
8. MZero
19. Luis_Sera
20. Lolo_Guru

Topic 5 - Post 339
Lea3Lea continues throwing suspicion onto Luis_Sera

Topic 5 - Post 348
Lopen invokes appeal to authority using Luis to push Obellisk. This actually feels like Lopen is a putz being taken for a ride.

Topic 5 - Post 424
I think Lopen just idolizes Luis for some reason and is letting himself be taken for a ride

Topic 5 - Post 450
Death makes their list of top 5 Mafia finally, saying they favor Scare as being their TOP Mafia suspect (note, Scare replaced in for Eaedwards)
Dowolf
Luis
Red
Cam
Scare
There is consistency from their last list that included Luis, Cam, Eaedwards, now adding in Dowolf and Red [A town, and maybe a Mafia?]

Topic 5 - Post 458
DoomTheGyarados Town->Scum List had Luis at #10 out of 20 lol

I wish i had Cam's gusto.
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CLIFF NOTES (PART 4):

Topic 6 - Post 192
MEATY POST ALERT
Luis_Sera does the following:
1. Encourages Lolo_Guru to not read up and take notes, but rather post in real time
2. Gives up on pushing Sultan (perhaps due to Sir Chris Town reading of Sultan)
3. Throws shade at MZero
4. Says Red is fine
5. Tries to pocket Lopen hard here, buttering him up
6. Says Pez is fine
7. Says Lea is fine
8. Votes Ben and obviously throws suspicion there

Topic 6 - Post 212
Benjamin says he doesnt have a read on Luis

Topic 6 - Post 358
Says the following three things:
1. They would prefer to Lynch Benjamin today, but there seems to be no traction there
(Ben is at 2 votes, SBell is at 4/3, Dowolf is at 3/4, Lea is at 3)
I mean, it certainly feels like there COULD have easily been traction on Ben there given the difference in votes there
2. They would prefer to vote MZero here over Obellisk

Topic 6 - 366
Benjamin kind of mocks Luis_Sera here

Topic 6 - Post 376
Camarija posts a list of Mafia Suspects that include Luis_Sera

Topic 6 - Post 420
Luis Sera explains the flavor of Dowolfs character claim, and that theyre a confirmable role

Topic 6 - Post 457
Luis Sera is almost talking down to Dowolf here, telling them they must use their power now

Topic 7 - Post 11
Camarija posts Mafia Suspect list with Luis_Sera in it

Topic 7 - Post 70
Camarija posts Mafia suspect list with Luis_Sera in it, for DoomTheGyarados to use in choosing who to vote:
red13n
MZero
luis_sera
lolo

Of these 4 I dunno

Topic 7 - Post 95
Kind of weasels away kind of setting the stage that no one should give Chris feedback here. Lmfao

Topic 7 - Post 98
Chris asks for Luis opinion LOL!

Topic 7 - Post 137
Luis Sera suggest they Lynch Puns over Ben, recognizing its more of an irrational request from their point of view. Also suggests possibly lynching Scare but that hes not viewing Scare as Mafia. Sees Lea3Lea as likely Town. Wants Corrik alive despite being uncertain about them. NOTE: at no point does he mention MZero. Lmfao. Also just completely forgets that he was pushing Sultan earlier. Dude is hilarious.

Topic 7 - Post 198
Sir Chris vanquishes the evil Luis!

Obellisk posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Luis_Sera89 posted...

I agree that this is completely rudderless right now. I'd prefer Ben but I'd reluctantly go with MZero for a better shot of salvaging some info out of today. I'm not convinced SBell is scum and I think we'd learn less in the event he flips town.

Sounds like Scum that KNOWS i'm going to flip town and believes that that flip wont give scum anything juicy. Also sounsd like MZero is town in that post and Ben is likely scum.

But i suppose i'm biased.

What do you mean by juicy? Wouldn't scum have loved to lynch a town you if it was going to mean we "learn less"?
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Again, refer to the TLDR post for the spew reads

I have every post Luis_Sera made

I have basically every post where people respond to, or talk about Luis_Sera as well

If youd like a specific post or a quick lookup, let me know

I can also just note dump if youd prefer, but I believe there are limits as to how many characters you may post

Camarija posted...

TLDR of Luis Spew:

Town:
Camarija,
Lea3Lea,
DoomTheGyarados,
Turbopuns,
Lopen

Probably Town:
Benjamin,
Sultan,
Scare,
Hbthebattle

Slight Lean Town:
Death,
Obellisk

???:
MZero,
Red

LOL:
Tom Bombadi

l!!!!:
Mafia have exactly 6 players, probably no SK, and sorry to disappoint but no lost wolf

But again, this is more or less what I came away with from reading the spew

Camarija posted...

Again, refer to the TLDR post for the spew reads

I have every post Luis_Sera made

I have basically every post where people respond to, or talk about Luis_Sera as well

If youd like a specific post or a quick lookup, let me know

I can also just note dump if youd prefer, but I believe there are limits as to how many characters you may post

You can do multi posts. Note dump please
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benjamin3740 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Luis_Sera89 posted...

I agree that this is completely rudderless right now. I'd prefer Ben but I'd reluctantly go with MZero for a better shot of salvaging some info out of today. I'm not convinced SBell is scum and I think we'd learn less in the event he flips town.

Sounds like Scum that KNOWS i'm going to flip town and believes that that flip wont give scum anything juicy. Also sounsd like MZero is town in that post and Ben is likely scum.

But i suppose i'm biased.

What do you mean by juicy? Wouldn't scum have loved to lynch a town you if it was going to mean we "learn less"?

I'm not going to answer this.
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Votals (as of post 300)
(3) SBell: Chris, MZero, Lopen
(1) Lopen: Lea
(1) Chris: Corrik
(1) 5tar: Ulti

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