Current Events > We have a two hour diversity training meeting today.

(+) Yeah! (+)

This should be interesting.
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Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.
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Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

you got modded for stating that slavery was a moral good
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Thats a good question.
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Frolex posted...

Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

you got modded for stating that slavery was a moral good

Where? I'd like to see the downplay.
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Two hours seems... a while.
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Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

This dude has been badly radicalised recently, huh?
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M_Live posted...

What exactly do they train you on for 2 hours in regards to diversity?

Dont say the n-word or the c-word.
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Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

Capitalist society has never been merit based
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LightningAce11 posted...

Frolex posted...

Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

you got modded for stating that slavery was a moral good

Where? I'd like to see the downplay.

/post.php?id=923482349&db=0

on "that site"
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M_Live posted...

What exactly do they train you on for 2 hours in regards to diversity?

Something something damn white people
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We had this last month. I intentionally double booked all the sessions with meetings. HR got well flustered with me.

It isnt until the end of the day but I will report back with anything interesting that happens.
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knutjob posted...

We had this last month. I intentionally double booked all the sessions with meetings. HR got well flustered with me.

sounds really tryhard and obnoxious for no reason
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people acting like 2 hours is a long time while some people here are still racist after a whole lifetime of being taught not to be
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Frolex posted...

Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

you got modded for stating that slavery was a moral good

Yikes
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Frolex posted...

LightningAce11 posted...

Frolex posted...

Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

you got modded for stating that slavery was a moral good

Where? I'd like to see the downplay.

/post.php?id=923482349&db=0

on "that site"

Heh, he thinks Africans were savages before slavery.
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tag

I bet someone said something and fucked it up for all of you guys. There's always that one person. Don't be that one person, guys.
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Don't be a dick to people, and for the next 1:59:55 we're going to watch The Office on Netflix before its gone. Starting with the diversity episode.
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Two hours out of the work day to just snooze through a seminar-esque meeting and get paid for it? Sign me up.
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Im just hoping we watch Django Unchained.
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I've had it. They didnt tell us not to be racist or sexist, in the sense of changing our opinion, they basically just said keep that shit to yourself.
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NinjaBreakfast posted...

knutjob posted...

We had this last month. I intentionally double booked all the sessions with meetings. HR got well flustered with me.

sounds really tryhard and obnoxious for no reason

Because it's insulting. I am in a mixed marriage and my biggest clients are all either African or Chinese and I have better things to do than listen to an HR department notorious for not hiring minorities tell me how racist I am.

knutjob posted...

NinjaBreakfast posted...

knutjob posted...

We had this last month. I intentionally double booked all the sessions with meetings. HR got well flustered with me.

sounds really tryhard and obnoxious for no reason

Because it's insulting. I am in a mixed marriage and my biggest clients are all either African or Chinese and I have better things to do than listen to an HR department notorious for not hiring minorities tell me how racist I am.

What makes you think that's how it's gonna be? *Points above to own experience*
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We had a 2 night diversity class.

It was 3 hours a class.

6 hours on your own time with grown adults to be told that you shouldn't be an asshole.

It was the most useless thing I've ever sat through. They are trying to push and force more women and minorities to become foreman. Which is swell, but the majority of women and minorities don't even want to become supervision because it isn't worth it.

And the ones that DO want it are severely unqualified. We had a woman who worked with me as an apprentice and by her 4th year still had trouble handling the smallest and easiest of tasks. They sent her out as a foreman a couple years later with little experience as a mechanic. She messed up so many things that should have been basic.
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LordRazziel posted...

knutjob posted...

NinjaBreakfast posted...

knutjob posted...

We had this last month. I intentionally double booked all the sessions with meetings. HR got well flustered with me.

sounds really tryhard and obnoxious for no reason

Because it's insulting. I am in a mixed marriage and my biggest clients are all either African or Chinese and I have better things to do than listen to an HR department notorious for not hiring minorities tell me how racist I am.

What makes you think that's how it's gonna be? *Points above to own experience*

because I saw the itinery and know other people that have been to the sessions. As for the tryhard bit, in my defence I did e a lot of meetings and it would have been a real pain to schedule them around the sessions.

at least your training is only 2 hours.. I gotta host a 5 hr training session next week. one part is only an hour, and thats for using a hypervolt, the other 4 hours is teaching 4 people how to do assisted stretching.
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since you seem to be complaining about it,its a good thing that its happening.you people NEVER LEARN.

I've been in charge of diversity trainings before. They come in various shapes and sizes. The worst ones (usually done by corporations) are the presentations that seemingly go on forever. They usually have videos (not movies) on stuff like sexual harassment and keeping a safe workplace.

There are others that are more engaged (usually done on nonprofits and college campuses), where you play games that serve a point on how diversity works. They go by different names, but there's the "line of privilege" game, a systematic oppression card game, and just other "pair and share" activities to understand how different people are. And it goes to more than just race and gender. It talks about low income vs high income, rural vs urban, abled vs disabled, single parent home vs dual parent home, etc.

Though in my experience, large corporations just go for the presentation and the video with an occasional icebreaker.
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Zanzenburger posted...

I've been in charge of diversity trainings before. They come in various shapes and sizes. The worst ones (usually done by corporations) are the presentations that seemingly go on forever. They usually have videos (not movies) on stuff like sexual harassment and keeping a safe workplace.

There are others that are more engaged (usually done on nonprofits and college campuses), where you play games that serve a point on how diversity works. They go by different names, but there's the "line of privilege" game, a systematic oppression card game, and just other "pair and share" activities to understand how different people are. And it goes to more than just race and gender. It talks about low income vs high income, rural vs urban, abled vs disabled, single parent home vs dual parent home, etc.

Though in my experience, large corporations just go for the presentation and the video with an occasional icebreaker.

Just play a few episodes of the office and be like Dont be like Micheal Scott.
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Zanzenburger posted...

There are others that are more engaged (usually done on nonprofits and college campuses), where you play games that serve a point on how diversity works. They go by different names, but there's the "line of privilege" game, a systematic oppression card game, and just other "pair and share" activities to understand how different people are. And it goes to more than just race and gender. It talks about low income vs high income, rural vs urban, abled vs disabled, single parent home vs dual parent home, etc.

I'd like to hear more about this. I've never specifically been involved in this in any respect.
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CyricZ posted...

Zanzenburger posted...

There are others that are more engaged (usually done on nonprofits and college campuses), where you play games that serve a point on how diversity works. They go by different names, but there's the "line of privilege" game, a systematic oppression card game, and just other "pair and share" activities to understand how different people are. And it goes to more than just race and gender. It talks about low income vs high income, rural vs urban, abled vs disabled, single parent home vs dual parent home, etc.

I'd like to hear more about this. I've never specifically been involved in this in any respect.

Well the game I call the "line of privilege" is where everyone stands in a line. The moderator then reads out a particular characteristic or attribute and tells the participant to step forward or backward if they fit that attribute.

Some examples:
"If you grew up in a two-parent household, take two steps forward"
"If English is the second language you learned in school, take one step backward"
"If you have ever been asked to speak for your entire race, take two steps backward"
"If you made it through college with no student loans, take two steps forward"
"If you've ever feared for your safety walking outside, take one step backward"

The idea is that we have a lot of invisible attributes like social, cultural, and political capital that helps or hurts us. If life were a race, this game determines everyone's starting point. And despite diversity often focusing on race, a lot of those situations don't necessarily apply to a single identifier. Like the last one, while people who grew up in unsafe neighborhoods may be very likely to step backwards, you might also find women in general stepping backward. The people near the front realize just how fortunate they are from the getgo by realizing they have all these advantages before even taking into consideration skill and talent, showing how the game is weighted to make some more likely to succeed.

The card game is similar but works a bit differently in that you get to experience what it's like to be in a different social/cultural/political class through a simulated activity where people treat you according to the stereotypes depicted by your card.

There's a number of activities that can be used and are usually tailored to the needs of the group. Though there's usually extensive training involved to moderate these activities as they can become pretty personal and offensive if not handled carefully.
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Well it wasnt bad. They just showed old videos and had discussions on harassment and behavior.
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just make sure your phone is charged and think of it as "getting paid to play on my phone"
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fan357 posted...

Well it wasnt bad. They just showed old videos and had discussions on harassment and behavior.

Zanzenburger posted...

They usually have videos (not movies) on stuff like sexual harassment and keeping a safe workplace.

Yep, par for the course.
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Antifar posted...

Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

Capitalist society has never been merit based

nothing has ever been merit based
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Frolex posted...

Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

you got modded for stating that slavery was a moral good

That's a blatant lie but I don't feel like arguing with an ass so whatever
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Frolex posted...

LightningAce11 posted...

Frolex posted...

Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

you got modded for stating that slavery was a moral good

Where? I'd like to see the downplay.

/post.php?id=923482349&db=0

on "that site"

Heh, he thinks Africans were savages before slavery.

Oh is that what I think? What else do I think?
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Ilishe posted...

Frolex posted...

Ilishe posted...

Forced diversity is the end of a merit based capitalist society.

you got modded for stating that slavery was a moral good

That's a blatant lie but I don't feel like arguing with an ass so whatever

Nah, I checked that site. You said the Africans were savages who needed to be taught about civilization.

What is it with racists not admitting what they are? Being cowardly just makes it worse.
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