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darkjedilink
06/27/19 10:19:31 AM
#152:


scar the 1 posted...
DarkRoast posted...
scar the 1 posted...
I would consider running against the establishment and getting elected to be a tiny bit more than "do-nothing", but idk


Fair enough. But not by much.

It took Obama almost eight years to close Guantanamo. A major issue for me at least.

Still better than any Republican to be fair.

And Obama never claimed to be some sort of socialist or anti establishment.

What would you have her do? Running for office seems like a natural thing to do if you want to actually affect the system. So, in your eyes, how do you avoid being a do-nothing?

She can start by giving these people some beds. Then, use her six-figure salary to pay her student loan debt.
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Hawaiian_punch
06/27/19 10:24:18 AM
#153:


Her crying looks fake, IMO
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scar the 1
06/27/19 10:35:59 AM
#154:


darkjedilink posted...
She can start by giving these people some beds. Then, use her six-figure salary to pay her student loan debt.

I feel like you missed the point. She doesn't want concentration camps at all, so it's not her responsibility to keep concentration camps well equipped.
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darkjedilink
06/27/19 10:41:39 AM
#155:


scar the 1 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
She can start by giving these people some beds. Then, use her six-figure salary to pay her student loan debt.

I feel like you missed the point. She doesn't want concentration camps at all, so it's not her responsibility to keep concentration camps well equipped.

Maybe she should have demanded Obama close them, then.

Or maybe she could support funding the requests for additional judges to process their cases. Or to deport those already adjudicated. Doing those two things would eliminate them.
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Shablagoo
06/27/19 10:49:31 AM
#156:


CyricZ posted...
Context: This was during her campaign, well before her concentration camp comments.

Honestly, shouldnt this topic be deleted?
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scar the 1
06/27/19 11:13:04 AM
#157:


darkjedilink posted...
Maybe she should have demanded Obama close them, then.

You... do realize she wasn't a congresswoman when Obama was president right
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Bishop9800
06/27/19 11:55:31 AM
#158:


scar the 1 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Maybe she should have demanded Obama close them, then.

You... do realize she wasn't a congresswoman when Obama was president right


Dude. You're talking to djl. The same guy who blames Obama for breaking up his marriage. So you know he's going to blame him for everything else.
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Hawaiian_punch
06/27/19 12:08:08 PM
#159:


Bishop9800 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Maybe she should have demanded Obama close them, then.

You... do realize she wasn't a congresswoman when Obama was president right


Dude. You're talking to djl. The same guy who blames Obama for breaking up his marriage. So you know he's going to blame him for everything else.
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Shablagoo
06/27/19 12:09:08 PM
#160:


@darkjedilink Barack Obama broke up your marriage?
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darkjedilink
06/27/19 1:32:36 PM
#161:


Shablagoo posted...
@darkjedilink Barack Obama broke up your marriage?

No. And I never said he did.
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darkjedilink
06/27/19 1:33:37 PM
#162:


scar the 1 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Maybe she should have demanded Obama close them, then.

You... do realize she wasn't a congresswoman when Obama was president right

Only Congresspeople can demand a President close concentration camps?
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Bishop9800
06/27/19 2:15:10 PM
#163:


darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
@darkjedilink Barack Obama broke up your marriage?

No. And I never said he did.


BULLSHIT
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Youngster_Joey_
06/27/19 2:55:36 PM
#164:


BDTcFGw

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DarkRoast
06/27/19 3:40:02 PM
#165:


Those cars are so sad tho :(
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DarkRoast
06/27/19 3:45:35 PM
#166:


y8qW9Uy

When u tryna get the right angle so nobody sees the other side of the fence
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darkjedilink
06/27/19 3:50:18 PM
#167:


DarkRoast posted...
y8qW9Uy

When u tryna get the right angle so nobody sees the other side of the fence

Well, she did say that there's no crisis at the border.
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DarkRoast
06/27/19 3:56:17 PM
#168:


And I got all that shit about being skeptical of her alligator tears lol. Fake empathy is the worst. Glad the rest of the photos were found. Also lol @ wearing a $1000 watch to an empty parking lot to show fake emotional solidarity.

That said, at least she supports their closure. That's more than you can say for the GOP.

I'll take fake empathy over no empathy. At least one passingly acknowledges a problem.
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darkjedilink
06/27/19 8:31:10 PM
#169:


DarkRoast posted...
At least one passingly acknowledges a problem.

You might have a point if she hadn't spent her entire political career thus far defunding the ability to process these people, while simultaneously claiming there isn't a problem.
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nativengine
06/27/19 8:44:18 PM
#170:


Youngster_Joey_ posted...
BDTcFGw

azIw47r

DarkRoast posted...
y8qW9Uy

When u tryna get the right angle so nobody sees the other side of the fence


Her fake tears, dressed in all white.... give me a break.
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Frolex
06/27/19 9:34:31 PM
#171:


DarkRoast posted...
And I got all that shit about being skeptical of her alligator tears lol. Fake empathy is the worst. Glad the rest of the photos were found. Also lol @ wearing a $1000 watch to an empty parking lot to show fake emotional solidarity.

That said, at least she supports their closure. That's more than you can say for the GOP.

I'll take fake empathy over no empathy. At least one passingly acknowledges a problem.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aoc-empty-parking-lot/

You know you'd think you'd eventually manage to post something intelligent in at least one topic, just by law of averages
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hockeybub89
06/27/19 9:43:23 PM
#172:


Frolex posted...
DarkRoast posted...
And I got all that shit about being skeptical of her alligator tears lol. Fake empathy is the worst. Glad the rest of the photos were found. Also lol @ wearing a $1000 watch to an empty parking lot to show fake emotional solidarity.

That said, at least she supports their closure. That's more than you can say for the GOP.

I'll take fake empathy over no empathy. At least one passingly acknowledges a problem.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aoc-empty-parking-lot/

You know you'd think you'd eventually manage to post something intelligent in at least one topic, just by law of averages

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Roxborough4Ever
06/27/19 9:47:33 PM
#173:


i legit wonder what her expression was when Michael Jordan did a layup with his tongue out....
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DarkRoast
06/27/19 10:35:03 PM
#174:


Frolex posted...
DarkRoast posted...
And I got all that shit about being skeptical of her alligator tears lol. Fake empathy is the worst. Glad the rest of the photos were found. Also lol @ wearing a $1000 watch to an empty parking lot to show fake emotional solidarity.

That said, at least she supports their closure. That's more than you can say for the GOP.

I'll take fake empathy over no empathy. At least one passingly acknowledges a problem.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aoc-empty-parking-lot/

You know you'd think you'd eventually manage to post something intelligent in at least one topic, just by law of averages


Did you even read that lol

They called it false because it was "more than just a parking lot, it was a gate to a camp"

Which is literally what everyone already thought it was. The problem is that she's crying and there's literally nothing on the other side.

I love Snopes but their response is just semantics.

The so-called empty parking lot was in fact a roadway leading towards the Tornillo Border Patrol station, where thousands of migrant children were housed in a tent city.

It wasnt an empty parking lot; its an entrance and we [media and protesters] werent allowed to go past that, Aguirre told us.



Better bust out those tears, right

It's not like she's the only politician taking a photo op opportunity. That's what they do.

We're talking about someone who was raised upper middle class who, at least for a while, pretended to be raised in the ghetto. This is not her first time pinning for this sort of thing.

As I said before, fake empathy is better than no empathy.

Still better than the Republicans who actual applaud these camps.
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Cornmuffins
06/27/19 10:47:14 PM
#175:


Roxborough4Ever posted...
i legit wonder what her expression was when Michael Jordan did a layup with his tongue out....


lol wtf?
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DarkRoast
06/27/19 10:49:19 PM
#176:


Gotta pity people who get their news from right wing blogs, though. They blew this way out of proportion. As always.
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TalesofMedz
06/27/19 10:49:45 PM
#177:


So I take it she is for the wall?
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Cornmuffins
06/27/19 10:52:16 PM
#178:


DarkRoast posted...
Gotta pity people who get their news from right wing blogs, though. They blew this way out of proportion. As always.



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Frolex
06/28/19 12:07:18 AM
#179:


Cornmuffins posted...



I guess falling for fake news from right wing blogs doesn't count if you claim to be a centrist.
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scar the 1
06/28/19 12:56:10 AM
#180:


DarkRoast posted...
Which is literally what everyone already thought it was. The problem is that she's crying and there's literally nothing on the other side.

You have very weird qualifications for what is appropriate to cry about. A friend of mine cried repeatedly when she saw the Wizards Unite trailer, at the thought of getting to save Harry Potter with a Patronus spell. Several of my friends have burst out crying for no apparent reason, because they were thinking of something particular.

Seeing an area such as that and knowing about the actual shit show inside is definitely enough to make someone plausibly cry in my eyes. Do I believe AOC did? Don't know, don't really care. It's not like she used it for sympathy points.
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hockeybub89
06/28/19 3:18:45 AM
#181:


DarkRoast posted...
Frolex posted...
DarkRoast posted...
And I got all that shit about being skeptical of her alligator tears lol. Fake empathy is the worst. Glad the rest of the photos were found. Also lol @ wearing a $1000 watch to an empty parking lot to show fake emotional solidarity.

That said, at least she supports their closure. That's more than you can say for the GOP.

I'll take fake empathy over no empathy. At least one passingly acknowledges a problem.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aoc-empty-parking-lot/

You know you'd think you'd eventually manage to post something intelligent in at least one topic, just by law of averages


Did you even read that lol

They called it false because it was "more than just a parking lot, it was a gate to a camp"

Which is literally what everyone already thought it was. The problem is that she's crying and there's literally nothing on the other side.

I love Snopes but their response is just semantics.

The so-called empty parking lot was in fact a roadway leading towards the Tornillo Border Patrol station, where thousands of migrant children were housed in a tent city.

It wasnt an empty parking lot; its an entrance and we [media and protesters] werent allowed to go past that, Aguirre told us.



Better bust out those tears, right

It's not like she's the only politician taking a photo op opportunity. That's what they do.

We're talking about someone who was raised upper middle class who, at least for a while, pretended to be raised in the ghetto. This is not her first time pinning for this sort of thing.

As I said before, fake empathy is better than no empathy.

Still better than the Republicans who actual applaud these camps.

They also quoted the photographer as saying no one really knew who AOC was and that people regularly get emotional protesting there.

Weird how she faked empathy and only hoped people were taking pictures. Pictures that would have stayed pretty much unknown if not for right-wing media digging them up a year later.
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MaverickXeo
06/28/19 3:39:54 AM
#182:


DarkRoast posted...
My mother came to America undocumented. This issue means a lot to me.

Conservatives and Republicans should be fucking ashamed of themselves for their rhetoric. But I'm not going to praise the do-nothings for getting virtue photo ops at immigrants' expense.

Close these camps down. End of story.


Where do the children go then? If their parents are detained for being in the country illegal (IE: breaking the law), what is going to happen to the children? The 'cages' were the idea of the Obama admin btw, too: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/baracks-ice-chief-cages-were-obamas-idea

Not to mention, this has always been an issue in the USA.
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BobanMarjanovic
06/28/19 4:00:54 AM
#183:


She's never been poor she doesn't know shit. She just wants power.
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pinky0926
06/28/19 4:22:51 AM
#184:


Conservatives are really offended that people aren't ok with kids being treated this way. Like it really grinds their gears for some reason
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scar the 1
06/28/19 5:02:43 AM
#185:


MaverickXeo posted...
DarkRoast posted...
My mother came to America undocumented. This issue means a lot to me.

Conservatives and Republicans should be fucking ashamed of themselves for their rhetoric. But I'm not going to praise the do-nothings for getting virtue photo ops at immigrants' expense.

Close these camps down. End of story.


Where do the children go then? If their parents are detained for being in the country illegal (IE: breaking the law), what is going to happen to the children? The 'cages' were the idea of the Obama admin btw, too: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/baracks-ice-chief-cages-were-obamas-idea

Not to mention, this has always been an issue in the USA.

"They started it" was never a really good excuse for kids who did something wrong
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Frolex
06/28/19 5:10:42 AM
#186:


MaverickXeo posted...


Where do the children go then? If their parents are detained for being in the country illegal (IE: breaking the law), what is going to happen to the children? The 'cages' were the idea of the Obama admin btw, too: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/baracks-ice-chief-cages-were-obamas-idea

Not to mention, this has always been an issue in the USA.


https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/

Why do people post bullshit that can be so easily and blatantly debunked just by typing some keywords and clicking the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button on google? That's rhetorical of course, because we all know the actual answer is a combination of people being purely ideologically motivated and incapable of doing their own research.
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ledbowman
06/28/19 5:14:30 AM
#187:


Trump supporters secretly can't stand the fact their daddy started separating families. It puts them on the defensive and they just deflect to anything. Must be tiring.
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Vyrulisse
06/28/19 5:17:02 AM
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monkeysRfunny
06/28/19 5:39:27 AM
#189:


Frolex posted...
MaverickXeo posted...


Where do the children go then? If their parents are detained for being in the country illegal (IE: breaking the law), what is going to happen to the children? The 'cages' were the idea of the Obama admin btw, too: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/baracks-ice-chief-cages-were-obamas-idea

Not to mention, this has always been an issue in the USA.


https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/

Why do people post bullshit that can be so easily and blatantly debunked just by typing some keywords and clicking the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button on google? That's rhetorical of course, because we all know the actual answer is a combination of people being purely ideologically motivated and incapable of doing their own research.

In 2014, amid an influx of asylum seekers from Central America, the administration established large family detention centers to hold parents and children potentially indefinitely as a means of deterring other asylees.

Kind of funny how you accuse someone of not reading while posting a link with information proving yourself wrong lol.

Not to mention there are more sites stating that the cages are from Obama. Even CNN admits it.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/fact-check-trump-claim-obama-separated-families/index.html
https://pjmedia.com/trending/obama-built-the-cages-for-illegals-not-trump-says-obama-ice-chief/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/48913/barack-obamas-ice-chief-dont-blame-trump-cages-hank-berrien
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Frolex
06/28/19 5:57:44 AM
#190:


monkeysRfunny posted...

In 2014, amid an influx of asylum seekers from Central America, the administration established large family detention centers to hold parents and children potentially indefinitely as a means of deterring other asylees.

Kind of funny how you accuse someone of not reading while posting a link with information proving yourself wrong lol.

Not to mention there are more sites stating that the cages are from Obama. Even CNN admits it.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/fact-check-trump-claim-obama-separated-families/index.html
https://pjmedia.com/trending/obama-built-the-cages-for-illegals-not-trump-says-obama-ice-chief/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/48913/barack-obamas-ice-chief-dont-blame-trump-cages-hank-berrien


"Obama built detention centers" is different claim to that the Trump adminisration's policy on family separation and detention of children are a continuation of obama's policies, let alone the claim that the family separations and child detention have "always been an issue in the USA." That's why none of your links actually address that; because you know it's not true.
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monkeysRfunny
06/28/19 6:07:42 AM
#191:


Frolex posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...

In 2014, amid an influx of asylum seekers from Central America, the administration established large family detention centers to hold parents and children potentially indefinitely as a means of deterring other asylees.

Kind of funny how you accuse someone of not reading while posting a link with information proving yourself wrong lol.

Not to mention there are more sites stating that the cages are from Obama. Even CNN admits it.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/fact-check-trump-claim-obama-separated-families/index.html
https://pjmedia.com/trending/obama-built-the-cages-for-illegals-not-trump-says-obama-ice-chief/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/48913/barack-obamas-ice-chief-dont-blame-trump-cages-hank-berrien


"Obama built detention centers" is different claim to that the Trump adminisration's policy on family separation and detention of children are a continuation of obama's policies, let alone the claim that the family separations and child detention have "always been an issue in the USA." That's why none of your links actually address that; because you know it's not true.

I hope you mean that "Obama built detention centers" is a different claim. Because yes, obviously it is, which is why that was literally the only thing I addressed in my post. Your saying that my post doesn't address those other things you mentioned is extremely foolish, as I clearly wasn't aiming to do so. That's why all the links I posted, as well as the quote from your link are directed solely at the fact that Obama built those detention centers.
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ledbowman
06/28/19 6:11:45 AM
#192:


monkeysRfunny posted...
Frolex posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...

In 2014, amid an influx of asylum seekers from Central America, the administration established large family detention centers to hold parents and children potentially indefinitely as a means of deterring other asylees.

Kind of funny how you accuse someone of not reading while posting a link with information proving yourself wrong lol.

Not to mention there are more sites stating that the cages are from Obama. Even CNN admits it.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/politics/fact-check-trump-claim-obama-separated-families/index.html
https://pjmedia.com/trending/obama-built-the-cages-for-illegals-not-trump-says-obama-ice-chief/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/48913/barack-obamas-ice-chief-dont-blame-trump-cages-hank-berrien


"Obama built detention centers" is different claim to that the Trump adminisration's policy on family separation and detention of children are a continuation of obama's policies, let alone the claim that the family separations and child detention have "always been an issue in the USA." That's why none of your links actually address that; because you know it's not true.

I hope you mean that "Obama built detention centers" is a different claim. Because yes, obviously it is, which is why that was literally the only thing I addressed in my post. Your saying that my post doesn't address those other things you mentioned is extremely foolish, as I clearly wasn't aiming to do so. That's why all the links I posted, as well as the quote from your link are directed solely at the fact that Obama built those detention centers.

You really blew up the narrative.
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monkeysRfunny
06/28/19 6:13:51 AM
#193:


Well in all fairness I was just dropping in. Took a peek at the first few posts, laughed at how staged the pictures looked, then went to the last page. Saw some shit on cages, and some guy acting all high and mighty when he's objectively wrong, so I decided to call him out on his bullshit.
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Frolex
06/28/19 6:19:56 AM
#194:


monkeysRfunny posted...

I hope you mean that "Obama built detention centers" is a different claim. Because yes, obviously it is, which is why that was literally the only thing I addressed in my post.


And that is not what the core conceit of the post I was responding to was. The assertion was that the current crisis child concentration camps is not only not the responsibility of the Trump administration, but something that has apparently been a perennial policy of the US
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monkeysRfunny
06/28/19 6:23:47 AM
#195:


Then you're venturing way too far off topic, because I was simply backing up the fact that the cages were from Obama; nothing about the problem with containing illegals or their children, nothing about whose responsibility it is, nothing.
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Frolex
06/28/19 6:27:48 AM
#196:


monkeysRfunny posted...
Then you're venturing way too far off topic, because I was simply backing up the fact that the cages were from Obama; nothing about the problem with containing illegals or their children, nothing about whose responsibility it is, nothing.


The claim made that I was responding to was on the historical policy of the US government on family separations and child detention. The fact that what you admitted to being a lame attempt at a gotcha amounted to nothing but a pointless deflection doesn't mean I'm "off-topic".
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monkeysRfunny
06/28/19 6:31:19 AM
#197:


Frolex posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...
Then you're venturing way too far off topic, because I was simply backing up the fact that the cages were from Obama; nothing about the problem with containing illegals or their children, nothing about whose responsibility it is, nothing.


The claim made that I was responding to was on the historical policy of the US government on family separations and child detention. The fact that what you admitted to being a lame attempt at a gotcha amounted to nothing but a pointless deflection doesn't mean I'm "off-topic".

You literally said the same thing about calling someone out on their "bullshit", which is actually true. And for the last time, my post was on that one topic. There was no deflection. But anyway, I'm done here. Can't get through to some people.
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Frolex
06/28/19 6:34:54 AM
#198:


monkeysRfunny posted...

You literally said the same thing about calling someone out on their "bullshit", which is actually true.


Because his claim on child separation was factually incorrect. That's the difference

monkeysRfunny posted...
And for the last time, my post was on that one topic. There was no deflection


Than why did you make that post in response to an argument about historical family separation policy?

monkeysRfunny posted...
But anyway, I'm done here. Can't get through to some people.


More like some people just can't help but bite off more than they can chew
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fuzzylittlbunny
06/28/19 6:36:19 AM
#199:


monkeysRfunny posted...
Frolex posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...
Then you're venturing way too far off topic, because I was simply backing up the fact that the cages were from Obama; nothing about the problem with containing illegals or their children, nothing about whose responsibility it is, nothing.


The claim made that I was responding to was on the historical policy of the US government on family separations and child detention. The fact that what you admitted to being a lame attempt at a gotcha amounted to nothing but a pointless deflection doesn't mean I'm "off-topic".

You literally said the same thing about calling someone out on their "bullshit", which is actually true. And for the last time, my post was on that one topic. There was no deflection. But anyway, I'm done here. Can't get through to some people.

This would require people understanding context, a skill GameFAQs residents tend to be lacking.
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fuzzylittlbunny
06/28/19 6:41:28 AM
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Frolex posted...
Than why did you make that post in response to an argument about historical family separation policy?

Wait, what is this thing though? From what I see Maverick makes a post asking where the children should go, and that Obama built the cages. Then you called that bullshit, then monkeys posted links about cages. The only responses I see from him are him trying to get you to see that he was only talking about the cages coming from Obama.
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Funkydog
06/28/19 6:51:37 AM
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Darkroast continues to prove how awful she is with every post she makes.

Employing the same "gotcha" techniques of trolls and lapping up fake news peddled by Russia like she's in a desert just so she can point out how a liberal isn't a perfect angel, or happened to not wear rags to an event around migrant children.

She claims to support their closure, and when people (who don't have the power to actually do it) try to highlight the issue and keep advocating for the thing she claims to want they are the ones evidently deserving of being ridiculed.

Give me a fucking break.
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