Current Events > Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez cries in front of concentration camps

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fuzzylittlbunny posted...

Wait, what is this thing though? From what I see Maverick makes a post asking where the children should go, and that Obama built the cages. Then you called that bullshit, then monkeys posted links about cages. The only responses I see from him are him trying to get you to see that he was only talking about the cages coming from Obama.

The question of "where do the children go" or Obama's immigation policy have nothing to do with Trump's concentration camps. And it certainly has nothing to do with the claim the current issue of child concentration camps "has always been an issue in the USA". Obama's policies were not about using indefinite detention as a tool to willfully separate children from families. That policy is wholly and uniquely Trump's
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Yeah, see...I'm not sure where all that is coming from. I mean you can say that their policies differ, but monkeys said tons of times that he wasn't talking about that. That he was referring to the fact that the cages were from Obama.
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...

Yeah, see...I'm not sure where all that is coming from. I mean you can say that their policies differ, but monkeys said tons of times that he wasn't talking about that. That he was referring to the fact that the cages were from Obama.

The post I was responding to did not limit it's argument to "obama built cages"
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it's very telling how much of a pile of shit one is when their mind can't even fathom the idea of empathy. so rotten to the core that they meet people who feel for others with skepticism. even if they can't prove it. they base it on THEMSELVES.

when one has been indoctrinated in a toxic culture where their peers are sociopathic narcissist, they can't be expected to feel the way other humans do. normal people can sympathize and empathize with people they disagree with. but these types operate in a way where they assume everybody else is just as horrible. if you're not and you vocalize it, they call you a virtue signaller, lolololol.
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But don't you see the problem? The argument was just "Obama built the cages". You overstepped that and introduced new issues that weren't initially on the table. That caused the conversation to collapse into a quagmire of misunderstanding.
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...

But don't you see the problem? The argument was just "Obama built the cages". You overstepped that and introduced new issues that weren't initially on the table. That caused the conversation to collapse into a quagmire of misunderstanding.

But that wasn't the argument. monkeys post wasn't the "initial" claim on the table.
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That was his initial (and only, really) argument; it's quite easy to see from all his posts.
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...

That was his initial (and only, really) argument; it's quite easy to see from all his posts.

and it was not a relevant argument to the one at hand
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It was relevant to him, and since you replied, it was relevant to you apparently.
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ffs people just drop it already. I'm not going to pursue this any further, and it would be nice if you guys could do likewise
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...

It was relevant to him, and since you replied, it was relevant to you apparently.

So pointing out why someone's argument is irrelevant now makes it relevant? that's some pretty interesting logic
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

it's very telling how much of a pile of shit one is when their mind can't even fathom the idea of empathy. so rotten to the core that they meet people who feel for others with skepticism. even if they can't prove it. they base it on THEMSELVES.

when one has been indoctrinated in a toxic culture where their peers are sociopathic narcissist, they can't be expected to feel the way other humans do. normal people can sympathize and empathize with people they disagree with. but these types operate in a way where they assume everybody else is just as horrible. if you're not and you vocalize it, they call you a virtue signaller, lolololol.

Or, you know, politics
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many synonyms for trash
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzat9MRNIlg" data-time="

The horror
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BillyKidd posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzat9MRNIlg&fbclid=IwAR3HFcOuu54U4s_FM6rU6CtA-uMCIolJutS_uH6tsO-Zk0p7XhBZF6d6pIA

The horror

The problem isn't the quality of the amenities. The problem is the detainment itself.
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DarkRoast posted...

BillyKidd posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzat9MRNIlg&fbclid=IwAR3HFcOuu54U4s_FM6rU6CtA-uMCIolJutS_uH6tsO-Zk0p7XhBZF6d6pIA

The horror

The problem isn't the quality of the amenities. The problem is the detainment itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1exA8ik5QI" data-time="

When 10,000 of the 12,000 kids arrive with strangers, what are we supposed to do? Let potential child traffickers just take them? What is your solution? Give everybody a free pass? Immigration mean jackshit? Get caught trying to live in Mexico illegally and you are jailed 2 years then deported. 2nd offense, 10 years with deportation following.
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BillyKidd posted...

DarkRoast posted...

BillyKidd posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzat9MRNIlg&fbclid=IwAR3HFcOuu54U4s_FM6rU6CtA-uMCIolJutS_uH6tsO-Zk0p7XhBZF6d6pIA

The horror

The problem isn't the quality of the amenities. The problem is the detainment itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1exA8ik5QI" data-time="

When 10,000 of the 12,000 kids arrive with strangers, what are we supposed to do? Let potential child traffickers just take them? What is your solution? Give everybody a free pass? Immigration mean jackshit? Get caught trying to live in Mexico illegally and you are jailed 2 years then deported. 2nd offense, 10 years with deportation following.

-stop separating kids from families.
-stop making short-sighted decisions that have long term ramifications.
-work with Democrats instead of being blind and heavy handed with every approach.
-treat human beings like human beings
-stop making for-profit organizations the authority over human lives.

basically everything that shouldn't have to be said to an intelligent person.
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Huffington Post, Fox News, President Trump, the United Nations,etc.. have all stated approximately 3 out of 4 women and children are raped on their travels to the American border.

You even bolded it, most kids aren't arriving with their family.

So what you are saying, is that these children that most probably were raped, should be detained in the same area as the person who raped them and/or the stranger that dragged them here? How compassionate.

What solution have Democrats provided that isn't open borders?

You can't call some place a concentration camp if all you have to do is walk the opposite direction.
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Crono99 posted...

All we can see is a fence with a police car on the other side. Couldn't they get a better angle for the pic?

This is all we can see in any pic related to the border but that doesn't stop politicians from conflating chain link fences with cages
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BillyKidd posted...

Huffington Post, Fox News, President Trump, the United Nations,etc.. have all stated approximately 3 out of 4 women and children are raped on their travels to the American border.

You even bolded it, most kids aren't arriving with their family.

So what you are saying, is that these children that most probably were raped, should be detained in the same area as the person who raped them and/or the stranger that dragged them here? How compassionate.

What solution have Democrats provided that isn't open borders?

You can't call some place a concentration camp if all you have to do is walk the opposite direction.

We should just release these unaccompanied children out into the general population to fend for themselves
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BillyKidd posted...

When 10,000 of the 12,000 kids arrive with strangers, what are we supposed to do?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/18/how-to-mislead-with-statistics-dhs-secretary-nielsen-edition/?utm_term=.f37c62636dee

In other words, for every 1,000 families that approached the border in the first five months of this fiscal year, only six allegedly involved individuals pretending to be a childs parents. The percentage of alleged smugglers in fiscal 2017 was smaller, at 0.1 percent.

Why always with the lying in this topic?
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SageHarpuia posted...

BillyKidd posted...

Huffington Post, Fox News, President Trump, the United Nations,etc.. have all stated approximately 3 out of 4 women and children are raped on their travels to the American border.

You even bolded it, most kids aren't arriving with their family.

So what you are saying, is that these children that most probably were raped, should be detained in the same area as the person who raped them and/or the stranger that dragged them here? How compassionate.

What solution have Democrats provided that isn't open borders?

You can't call some place a concentration camp if all you have to do is walk the opposite direction.

We should just release these unaccompanied children out into the general population to fend for themselves

That's what Obama did.
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BillyKidd posted...

Huffington Post, Fox News, President Trump, the United Nations,etc.. have all stated approximately 3 out of 4 women and children are raped on their travels to the American border.

You even bolded it, most kids aren't arriving with their family.

So what you are saying, is that these children that most probably were raped, should be detained in the same area as the person who raped them and/or the stranger that dragged them here? How compassionate.

What solution have Democrats provided that isn't open borders?

You can't call some place a concentration camp if all you have to do is walk the opposite direction.

do I also need to bold my full response? all of what I listed were preventative solutions. why do you respond in such bad faith? I feel like this a Conservative thing. which Democrat said they wanted open borders? I don't remember that one, lol.. but are you saying this 2019 version of handling immigration seriously better than how it was handled in 2016? I don't mind taking steps forward, but can you honestly say this is forward?

what is supposed to happen to these children now? are they permanent POWs? are Republicans simply gonna deflect when asked how they're going to clean up their mess?

-stop separating kids from families.
-stop making short-sighted decisions that have long term ramifications.
-work with Democrats instead of being blind and heavy handed with every approach.
-treat human beings like human beings
-stop making for-profit organizations the authority over human lives.

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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

-stop separating kids from families.

Change the law, then, because it's illegal to hold minors in cells with adults.

-stop making short-sighted decisions that have long term ramifications.

Like just letting illegal immigrants come into the country unchecked?

-work with Democrats instead of being blind and heavy handed with every approach.

Dems have to offer a policy first. 'Opeb borders and all the free shit' isn't policy

-treat human beings like human beings

When Dems keep beds and toothbrushes from these people, you don't really get to hold that moral high ground.

-stop making for-profit organizations the authority over human lives.

What the fuck are you on?
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who posted?
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darkjedilink posted...

When Dems keep beds and toothbrushes from these people, you don't really get to hold that moral high ground.

Dems aint doing that, and you know it.

DarkRoast posted...

BillyKidd posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzat9MRNIlg&fbclid=IwAR3HFcOuu54U4s_FM6rU6CtA-uMCIolJutS_uH6tsO-Zk0p7XhBZF6d6pIA

The horror

The problem isn't the quality of the amenities. The problem is the detainment itself.

What are we supposed to do with them?
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Bishop9800 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

When Dems keep beds and toothbrushes from these people, you don't really get to hold that moral high ground.

Dems aint doing that, and you know it.

that guy spends the majority of his time making shit up. no point in even engaging.

they ask questions already answered.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

that guy spends the majority of his time making shit up. no point in even engaging.

they ask questions already answered.

When has anything he said had merit?

Cool...who cares?
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Bishop9800 posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

that guy spends the majority of his time making shit up. no point in even engaging.

they ask questions already answered.

When has anything he said had merit?

that time Trump became a decorated war hero.
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Frolex posted...

BillyKidd posted...

When 10,000 of the 12,000 kids arrive with strangers, what are we supposed to do?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/18/how-to-mislead-with-statistics-dhs-secretary-nielsen-edition/?utm_term=.f37c62636dee

In other words, for every 1,000 families that approached the border in the first five months of this fiscal year, only six allegedly involved individuals pretending to be a childs parents. The percentage of alleged smugglers in fiscal 2017 was smaller, at 0.1 percent.

Why always with the lying in this topic?

Read the article and found it very strange he's the only one that wrote about this. Chance to criticize the President and no one else took the chance to heap onto it. So I did an internet search of "Philip Bump lie". Dude has been caught multiple times lying about Trump administration. I'm thinking there was a heavy amount of cherry picking numbers used for him to craft his statistics. I mean, right before the quote you used was; Even given the increased number of alleged smugglers this fiscal year and the decreased number of family units, so any chance you have someone that will back Mr. Bump's claim, as his credibility is definitely in question.
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BillyKidd posted...

Read the article and found it very strange he's the only one that wrote about this. Chance to criticize the President and no one else took the chance to heap onto it. So I did an internet search of "Philip Bump lie". Dude has been caught multiple times lying about Trump administration. I'm thinking there was a heavy amount of cherry picking numbers used for him to craft his statistics. I mean, right before the quote you used was; Even given the increased number of alleged smugglers this fiscal year and the decreased number of family units, so any chance you have someone that will back Mr. Bump's claim, as his credibility is definitely in question.

These numbers are directly from the DHS, the fuck are you on about? Pathetic low-tier denial, even just for this topic
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Frolex posted...

BillyKidd posted...

Read the article and found it very strange he's the only one that wrote about this. Chance to criticize the President and no one else took the chance to heap onto it. So I did an internet search of "Philip Bump lie". Dude has been caught multiple times lying about Trump administration. I'm thinking there was a heavy amount of cherry picking numbers used for him to craft his statistics. I mean, right before the quote you used was; Even given the increased number of alleged smugglers this fiscal year and the decreased number of family units, so any chance you have someone that will back Mr. Bump's claim, as his credibility is definitely in question.

These numbers are directly from the DHS, the fuck are you on about? Pathetic low-tier denial, even just for this topic

Doing a poll about the President's favorability. I'm going to pick 40 Democrats (Hillary supporters), 40 Republicans(Never Trumpers), and 20 3rd partiers that just want legal weed. Poll results show almost everyone hates Trump. But I polled fairly with 40 democrats and 40 republicans....Dude has a history of twisting content and context as well as flat out lie. Still can't find a credible source to back up this article?
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BillyKidd posted...

Doing a poll about the President's favorability. I'm going to pick 40 Democrats (Hillary supporters), 40 Republicans(Never Trumpers), and 20 3rd partiers that just want legal weed. Poll results show almost everyone hates Trump. But I polled fairly with 40 democrats and 40 republicans....Dude has a history of twisting content and context as well as flat out lie. Still can't find a credible source to back up this article?

bro, did you just have a stroke?
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https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1144246844400312320?s=19
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ledbowman posted...

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1144246844400312320?s=19

Another fine example of conservatives shooting themselves in the foot

ThanksUglyGod posted...

ledbowman posted...

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1144246844400312320?s=19

Another fine example of conservatives shooting themselves in the foot

the opinion of a man who doesnt really care he just wants to twist it into his own perception
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ThanksUglyGod posted...

ledbowman posted...

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1144246844400312320?s=19

Another fine example of conservatives shooting themselves in the foot

Pretty much everything they do is another example
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The best part about the Candace Owens thing are all the comments that think it's a total own, top flight comedy.
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I'm sure another example has happened today already
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BillyKidd posted...

Frolex posted...

BillyKidd posted...

Read the article and found it very strange he's the only one that wrote about this. Chance to criticize the President and no one else took the chance to heap onto it. So I did an internet search of "Philip Bump lie". Dude has been caught multiple times lying about Trump administration. I'm thinking there was a heavy amount of cherry picking numbers used for him to craft his statistics. I mean, right before the quote you used was; Even given the increased number of alleged smugglers this fiscal year and the decreased number of family units, so any chance you have someone that will back Mr. Bump's claim, as his credibility is definitely in question.

These numbers are directly from the DHS, the fuck are you on about? Pathetic low-tier denial, even just for this topic

Doing a poll about the President's favorability. I'm going to pick 40 Democrats (Hillary supporters), 40 Republicans(Never Trumpers), and 20 3rd partiers that just want legal weed. Poll results show almost everyone hates Trump. But I polled fairly with 40 democrats and 40 republicans....Dude has a history of twisting content and context as well as flat out lie. Still can't find a credible source to back up this article?

..........how did he link DHS to polls to call DHS not a credible source ?
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