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qwertyuio1 07/03/19 1:16:28 PM #1:	Stephen King vs HP Lovecraft - Results (8 votes) King 37.5% (3 votes) 3 Lovecraft 62.5% (5 votes) 5 ^ --- My neighbor is Paul McCartney <cite>qwertyuio1 posted [p:924193535] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote> Stephen King vs HP Lovecraft - Results (8 votes) King 37.5% (3 votes) 3 Lovecraft 62.5% (5 votes) 5 ^</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
qwertyuio1 07/04/19 1:23:13 AM #2:	That's a trip lovecraft is going in 5 to 3! --- My neighbor is Paul McCartney <cite>qwertyuio1 posted [p:924223076] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>That's a trip lovecraft is going in 5 to 3!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 07/04/19 1:26:31 AM #3:	At what? Racism? --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:924223155] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>At what? Racism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
qwertyuio1 07/04/19 1:34:08 AM #4:	Irony posted... At what? Racism? Lol --- My neighbor is Paul McCartney <cite>qwertyuio1 posted [p:924223396] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>At what? Racism?</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/04/19 1:43:19 AM #5:	Lovecraft. Irony posted... At what? Racism? LeSigh --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:924223616] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft. <cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>At what? Racism?</quote> LeSigh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 07/04/19 1:44:39 AM #6:	Zeus posted... Lovecraft. Irony posted... At what? Racism? LeSigh To be fair, he was massively racist and it wasn't in keeping with his peers at the time. Still love a bit of Lovecraft, despite being black myself. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:924223655] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft. <cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>At what? Racism?</quote> LeSigh</quote> To be fair, he was massively racist and it wasn't in keeping with his peers at the time. Still love a bit of Lovecraft, despite being black myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neverwin 07/04/19 1:48:20 AM #7:	Lovecraft was also a paranoid recluse so he wasn't actively doing harmful racist things at the very least. --- If you're so great then why do you corrupt those who are just as great? https://imgur.com/S0RN1 <cite>neverwin posted [p:924223754] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft was also a paranoid recluse so he wasn't actively doing harmful racist things at the very least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/04/19 1:52:24 AM #8:	IloveJesus posted... Zeus posted... Lovecraft. Irony posted... At what? Racism? LeSigh To be fair, he was massively racist and it wasn't in keeping with his peers at the time. Still love a bit of Lovecraft, despite being black myself. Not disputing Lovecraft's racism (which would be hard to do, considering he had a poem with the N-word in the title), just the fact that it's randomly being brought up. And, in general, Lovecraft's xenophobia was an inspiration to his work. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:924223861] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft. <cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>At what? Racism?</quote> LeSigh</quote> To be fair, he was massively racist and it wasn't in keeping with his peers at the time. Still love a bit of Lovecraft, despite being black myself.</quote> Not disputing Lovecraft's racism (which would be hard to do, considering he had a poem with the N-word in the title), just the fact that it's randomly being brought up. And, in general, Lovecraft's xenophobia was an inspiration to his work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 07/04/19 1:54:04 AM #9:	Zeus posted... IloveJesus posted... Zeus posted... Lovecraft. Irony posted... At what? Racism? LeSigh To be fair, he was massively racist and it wasn't in keeping with his peers at the time. Still love a bit of Lovecraft, despite being black myself. Not disputing Lovecraft's racism (which would be hard to do, considering he had a poem with the N-word in the title), just the fact that it's randomly being brought up. And, in general, Lovecraft's xenophobia was an inspiration to his work. Lovecrafts racism being an obvious inspiration in his works honestly just makes it harder to separate it from the author so thats not much of a surprise --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:924223913] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft. <cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>At what? Racism?</quote> LeSigh</quote> To be fair, he was massively racist and it wasn't in keeping with his peers at the time. Still love a bit of Lovecraft, despite being black myself.</quote> Not disputing Lovecraft's racism (which would be hard to do, considering he had a poem with the N-word in the title), just the fact that it's randomly being brought up. And, in general, Lovecraft's xenophobia was an inspiration to his work.</quote> Lovecrafts racism being an obvious inspiration in his works honestly just makes it harder to separate it from the author so thats not much of a surprise</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/04/19 2:02:38 AM #10:	ultimate reaver posted... Zeus posted... IloveJesus posted... Zeus posted... Lovecraft. Irony posted... At what? Racism? LeSigh To be fair, he was massively racist and it wasn't in keeping with his peers at the time. Still love a bit of Lovecraft, despite being black myself. Not disputing Lovecraft's racism (which would be hard to do, considering he had a poem with the N-word in the title), just the fact that it's randomly being brought up. And, in general, Lovecraft's xenophobia was an inspiration to his work. Lovecrafts racism being an obvious inspiration in his works honestly just makes it harder to separate it from the author so thats not much of a surprise Eh, it's less about race as a concrete principle and more about his fear & misgivings of the other, which is why it was more XENOPHOBIA than it was racism, particularly since some of the groups he had misgivings about were white. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:924224172] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft. <cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>At what? Racism?</quote> LeSigh</quote> To be fair, he was massively racist and it wasn't in keeping with his peers at the time. Still love a bit of Lovecraft, despite being black myself.</quote> Not disputing Lovecraft's racism (which would be hard to do, considering he had a poem with the N-word in the title), just the fact that it's randomly being brought up. And, in general, Lovecraft's xenophobia was an inspiration to his work.</quote> Lovecrafts racism being an obvious inspiration in his works honestly just makes it harder to separate it from the author so thats not much of a surprise</quote> Eh, it's less about race as a concrete principle and more about his fear & misgivings of the other, which is why it was more XENOPHOBIA than it was racism, particularly since some of the groups he had misgivings about were white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 07/04/19 3:05:34 AM #11:	Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:924225665] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/04/19 3:09:19 AM #12:	jumi posted... Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:924225761] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
qwertyuio1 07/04/19 3:31:19 AM #13:	OctilIery posted... jumi posted... Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories. That's cool so you've read alot from them both? --- My neighbor is Paul McCartney <cite>qwertyuio1 posted [p:924226254] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories.</quote> That's cool so you've read alot from them both?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 07/04/19 3:40:32 AM #14:	jumi posted... 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). I've only read a couple, but both of them described what happened. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:924226474] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>2. Something horrible appears (but is never described).</quote> I've only read a couple, but both of them described what happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/04/19 4:02:55 AM #15:	qwertyuio1 posted... OctilIery posted... jumi posted... Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories. That's cool so you've read alot from them both? Good amount of lovecraft(Admittedly I've read more Lovecraftian fiction not by him than I have by him), and almost all of King. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:924226977] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>qwertyuio1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories.</quote> That's cool so you've read alot from them both?</quote> Good amount of lovecraft(Admittedly I've read more Lovecraftian fiction not by him than I have by him), and almost all of King.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 07/04/19 4:15:51 AM #16:	Lovecraft, easily. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:924227198] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft, easily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 07/04/19 4:15:34 PM #17:	gguirao posted... Lovecraft, easily. They both have insanely high power levels honestly --- I'd like to sell my soul the same way Eminem did to the same person p.s. bring jesus christ back so I can crucify him personally ~ hail Satan <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:924246405] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>gguirao posted...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft, easily.</quote> They both have insanely high power levels honestly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 07/04/19 4:17:57 PM #18:	OctilIery posted... jumi posted... Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories. Too bad King's endings leave a lot to be desired. =/ --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:924246476] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories.</quote> Too bad King's endings leave a lot to be desired. =/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 07/04/19 4:20:05 PM #19:	I still think it's highly impressive that King outdid himself with his very first work. Nothing he did after The Long Walk was ever as good, as far as I'm concerned. That's just my opinion, however. --- "Tried to point my finger, but the wind was blowing me around in circles, circles." <cite>EverDownward posted [p:924246559] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>I still think it's highly impressive that King outdid himself with his very first work. Nothing he did after The Long Walk was ever as good, as far as I'm concerned. That's just my opinion, however.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 07/04/19 4:22:05 PM #20:	Brian runs over someone with his car. Brian: Oh my God are you Stephen King?!" Man: No, I'm Dean Kootz." Brian slowly walks back to his car, backs up, and runs him over again several times before driving away. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:924246631] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>Brian runs over someone with his car. Brian: Oh my God are you Stephen King?!" Man: No, I'm Dean Kootz." Brian slowly walks back to his car, backs up, and runs him over again several times before driving away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 07/04/19 5:01:19 PM #21:	I think it definitely has to be King. Lovecraft's stories are excellent, but his creativity doesn't come anywhere near to matching King's. And I agree with Octillery that King is simply a better writer. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:924248035] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>I think it definitely has to be King. Lovecraft's stories are excellent, but his creativity doesn't come anywhere near to matching King's. And I agree with Octillery that King is simply a better writer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/04/19 5:07:26 PM #22:	jumi posted... Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. It's to stop the reader from going mad. However, he pretty frequently describes many of his monsters and he's pretty explicit about many things. OctilIery posted... jumi posted... Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories. King is a kinda lousy writer. Many of his long works are heavily padded and you aren't really gaining much depth for it; even though King goes more into character motivations, he heavily relies on tropes and stereotypes. And King's tendency to really drag things out are probably one reason why so many of his endings are underwhelming. Otherwise it's somewhat unfair to complain about depth when comparing a full-length novelist to a short story writer. Within SK's works of comparable length, you really aren't finding much more depth. And, of course, Lovecraft died relatively young so his volume of works is shorter whereas SK has lived into his 70s. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:924248253] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> It's to stop the reader from going mad. However, he pretty frequently describes many of his monsters and he's pretty explicit about many things. <cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories.</quote> King is a kinda lousy writer. Many of his long works are heavily padded and you aren't really gaining much depth for it; even though King goes more into character motivations, he heavily relies on tropes and stereotypes. And King's tendency to really drag things out are probably one reason why so many of his endings are underwhelming. Otherwise it's somewhat unfair to complain about depth when comparing a full-length novelist to a short story writer. Within SK's works of comparable length, you really aren't finding much more depth. And, of course, Lovecraft died relatively young so his volume of works is shorter whereas SK has lived into his 70s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vocedelmorte 07/04/19 5:13:11 PM #24:	gguirao posted... Lovecraft, easily. <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:924248426] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>gguirao posted...</cite> <quote>Lovecraft, easily.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/04/19 7:13:21 PM #25:	Vicious_Dios posted... OctilIery posted... jumi posted... Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories. Too bad King's endings leave a lot to be desired. =/ Not really <cite>OctilIery posted [p:924252798] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vicious_Dios posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> ..No, not at all. He actually has a decent amount of variety to his stories, even if there are some consistent themes. That said, King is a FAR better writer. Lovecraft had brilliant ideas and his stories were creepy, but there isn't a lot of depth to them outside of it, while King's value goes far beyond his horror stories.</quote> Too bad King's endings leave a lot to be desired. =/</quote> Not really</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 07/04/19 7:25:14 PM #26:	You can't compare the two at all. One of them writes fiction and the other writes non-fiction. Totally different genres I guess the truth is stranger than fiction --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:924253289] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>You can't compare the two at all. One of them writes fiction and the other writes non-fiction. Totally different genres I guess the truth is stranger than fiction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a-c-a-b 07/04/19 7:31:50 PM #27:	I've read a bunch of Stephen King's stuff but haven't read any HP Lovecraft. Any recommendations for something to start off with? --- Save for your doomed future <cite>a-c-a-b posted [p:924253542] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>I've read a bunch of Stephen King's stuff but haven't read any HP Lovecraft. Any recommendations for something to start off with?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 07/04/19 7:50:53 PM #28:	a-c-a-b posted... I've read a bunch of Stephen King's stuff but haven't read any HP Lovecraft. Any recommendations for something to start off with? Start with The Call of Cthulhu and Dagon. They're both short and give you a good understanding of what Lovecraft stories are like. From there, if you're intrigued, you can move onto the other stuff. The Colour Out of Space is my personal favorite. The Dunwich Horror is another fantastic one. And after that you may want to try out the lengthier stories such as At the Mountains of Madness and The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:924254292] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>a-c-a-b posted...</cite> <quote>I've read a bunch of Stephen King's stuff but haven't read any HP Lovecraft. Any recommendations for something to start off with?</quote> Start with The Call of Cthulhu and Dagon. They're both short and give you a good understanding of what Lovecraft stories are like. From there, if you're intrigued, you can move onto the other stuff. The Colour Out of Space is my personal favorite. The Dunwich Horror is another fantastic one. And after that you may want to try out the lengthier stories such as At the Mountains of Madness and The Case of Charles Dexter Ward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/04/19 8:07:09 PM #29:	Stephen King for not being a hostile racist <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:924254881] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>Stephen King for not being a hostile racist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/04/19 8:08:26 PM #30:	GeneralKenobi85 posted... a-c-a-b posted... I've read a bunch of Stephen King's stuff but haven't read any HP Lovecraft. Any recommendations for something to start off with? Start with The Call of Cthulhu and Dagon. They're both short and give you a good understanding of what Lovecraft stories are like. From there, if you're intrigued, you can move onto the other stuff. The Colour Out of Space is my personal favorite. The Dunwich Horror is another fantastic one. And after that you may want to try out the lengthier stories such as At the Mountains of Madness and The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. My first was Call of Chulu. Great place to start. So many great stories. At the Mountains of Madness was probably my favorite. But it's hard to choose. I like Lovecraft and King about the same. If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. Lovecraft almost always has a satisfying ending. Many of Lovecraft's stories are a bit samey tho. Almost always an educated white man delving into the occult (usually involving minorities) and coming away on the path to insanity after encountering a cosmic horror. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:924254917] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>a-c-a-b posted...</cite> <quote>I've read a bunch of Stephen King's stuff but haven't read any HP Lovecraft. Any recommendations for something to start off with?</quote> Start with The Call of Cthulhu and Dagon. They're both short and give you a good understanding of what Lovecraft stories are like. From there, if you're intrigued, you can move onto the other stuff. The Colour Out of Space is my personal favorite. The Dunwich Horror is another fantastic one. And after that you may want to try out the lengthier stories such as At the Mountains of Madness and The Case of Charles Dexter Ward.</quote> My first was Call of Chulu. Great place to start. So many great stories. At the Mountains of Madness was probably my favorite. But it's hard to choose. I like Lovecraft and King about the same. If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. Lovecraft almost always has a satisfying ending. Many of Lovecraft's stories are a bit samey tho. Almost always an educated white man delving into the occult (usually involving minorities) and coming away on the path to insanity after encountering a cosmic horror.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/04/19 9:03:16 PM #31:	Zodd3224 posted... If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. He doesn't. He doesn't even have a half dozen books with bad endings - Under The Dome, The Stand, Duma Key, Needful Things, that's about it. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:924256800] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. </quote> He doesn't. He doesn't even have a half dozen books with bad endings - Under The Dome, The Stand, Duma Key, Needful Things, that's about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoke_break 07/04/19 9:14:09 PM #32:	Skye Reynolds posted... Stephen King for not being a hostile racist This. I can't look past that. --- https://imgur.com/WTmIPt8 <cite>smoke_break posted [p:924257197] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Stephen King for not being a hostile racist</quote> This. I can't look past that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/04/19 9:14:30 PM #33:	OctilIery posted... Zodd3224 posted... If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. He doesn't. He doesn't even have a half dozen books with bad endings - Under The Dome, The Stand, Duma Key, Needful Things, that's about it. It, The Stand, The Dark Tower, The Outsider are some of my favorite stories but all sputtered out in the end. The Shining is one of the few I have read that ended as strong as it started. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:924257207] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. </quote> He doesn't. He doesn't even have a half dozen books with bad endings - Under The Dome, The Stand, Duma Key, Needful Things, that's about it.</quote> It, The Stand, The Dark Tower, The Outsider are some of my favorite stories but all sputtered out in the end. The Shining is one of the few I have read that ended as strong as it started.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/04/19 9:20:11 PM #34:	smoke_break posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Stephen King for not being a hostile racist This. I can't look past that I like his stories enough to look past it. The man died poor, friendless, unhappy, and unknown at the time. So... I guess I can call it even. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:924257427] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoke_break posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Stephen King for not being a hostile racist</quote> This. I can't look past that</quote> I like his stories enough to look past it. The man died poor, friendless, unhappy, and unknown at the time. So... I guess I can call it even.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 07/04/19 9:27:06 PM #35:	The Stand's ending is lame but not enough to detract from the rest of the book. Also Lovecraft's racism is only pretty blatant in a handful of the stories. A Shadow Over Innsmouth is the most notable one. I wasn't a big fan of that one despite it being one of his most well-known stories. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:924257688] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>The Stand's ending is lame but not enough to detract from the rest of the book. Also Lovecraft's racism is only pretty blatant in a handful of the stories. A Shadow Over Innsmouth is the most notable one. I wasn't a big fan of that one despite it being one of his most well-known stories.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 07/04/19 9:28:34 PM #36:	Zodd3224 posted... smoke_break posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Stephen King for not being a hostile racist This. I can't look past that I like his stories enough to look past it. The man died poor, friendless, unhappy, and unknown at the time. So... I guess I can call it even. Dang --- I'd like to sell my soul the same way Eminem did to the same person p.s. bring jesus christ back so I can crucify him personally ~ hail Satan <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:924257752] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>smoke_break posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Stephen King for not being a hostile racist</quote> This. I can't look past that</quote> I like his stories enough to look past it. The man died poor, friendless, unhappy, and unknown at the time. So... I guess I can call it even.</quote> Dang</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 07/04/19 9:33:22 PM #37:	jumi posted... 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). ??? all the lovecraft I've read has been all about describing the something horrible, often to the point where I'm extremely bored and wish he'd do something else --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:924257935] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). </quote> ??? all the lovecraft I've read has been all about describing the something horrible, often to the point where I'm extremely bored and wish he'd do something else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
goldenBoi45 07/04/19 9:34:19 PM #38:	EverDownward posted... I still think it's highly impressive that King outdid himself with his very first work. Nothing he did after The Long Walk was ever as good, as far as I'm concerned. That's just my opinion, however. I agree. The Long Walk was his true masterpiece --- Getting girls is all about honesty. If you can fake that, you're in! <cite>goldenBoi45 posted [p:924257970] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>I still think it's highly impressive that King outdid himself with his very first work. Nothing he did after The Long Walk was ever as good, as far as I'm concerned. That's just my opinion, however.</quote> I agree. The Long Walk was his true masterpiece</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 07/04/19 9:36:36 PM #39:	ive never actually read any of his works but i hear despite his terrible views of black people, he apparently had some decent heroines at a time when that was rare but i dont know how true that is --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:924258063] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>ive never actually read any of his works but i hear despite his terrible views of black people, he apparently had some decent heroines at a time when that was rare but i dont know how true that is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 07/04/19 9:57:40 PM #41:	Zodd3224 posted... OctilIery posted... Zodd3224 posted... If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. He doesn't. He doesn't even have a half dozen books with bad endings - Under The Dome, The Stand, Duma Key, Needful Things, that's about it. It, The Stand, The Dark Tower, The Outsider are some of my favorite stories but all sputtered out in the end. The Shining is one of the few I have read that ended as strong as it started. The Stand is the only one of those that really sputtered out, though I honestly didn't think The Outsider was that strong to begin with. IT and The Dark Tower had fantastic endings. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:924258808] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. </quote> He doesn't. He doesn't even have a half dozen books with bad endings - Under The Dome, The Stand, Duma Key, Needful Things, that's about it.</quote> It, The Stand, The Dark Tower, The Outsider are some of my favorite stories but all sputtered out in the end. The Shining is one of the few I have read that ended as strong as it started.</quote> The Stand is the only one of those that really sputtered out, though I honestly didn't think The Outsider was that strong to begin with. IT and The Dark Tower had fantastic endings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/04/19 9:58:59 PM #42:	GeneralKenobi85 posted... The Stand's ending is lame but not enough to detract from the rest of the book. Also Lovecraft's racism is only pretty blatant in a handful of the stories. A Shadow Over Innsmouth is the most notable one. I wasn't a big fan of that one despite it being one of his most well-known stories. Isn't Horror at Red Hook considered the worst offender? Though Herbert West was pretty bad too, and he had smatterings all throughout. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:924258850] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote>The Stand's ending is lame but not enough to detract from the rest of the book. Also Lovecraft's racism is only pretty blatant in a handful of the stories. A Shadow Over Innsmouth is the most notable one. I wasn't a big fan of that one despite it being one of his most well-known stories.</quote> Isn't Horror at Red Hook considered the worst offender? Though Herbert West was pretty bad too, and he had smatterings all throughout.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/04/19 10:02:33 PM #43:	OctilIery posted... Zodd3224 posted... OctilIery posted... Zodd3224 posted... If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. He doesn't. He doesn't even have a half dozen books with bad endings - Under The Dome, The Stand, Duma Key, Needful Things, that's about it. It, The Stand, The Dark Tower, The Outsider are some of my favorite stories but all sputtered out in the end. The Shining is one of the few I have read that ended as strong as it started. The Stand is the only one of those that really sputtered out, though I honestly didn't think The Outsider was that strong to begin with. IT and The Dark Tower had fantastic endings. First half of The Outsider I think is up there with his best. But once the main mystery is resolved it lost a lot of its appeal. It I thought went off the rails starting with the kid orgy and culminating with the off the walls outer space battle. The Dark Tower to me got better with each book peaking at 4 (maybe my favorite book by him) then got worse with each book to 7. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:924258994] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>If King didnt fuck up the endings of the majority of his stories he would probably be my favorite of the two. </quote> He doesn't. He doesn't even have a half dozen books with bad endings - Under The Dome, The Stand, Duma Key, Needful Things, that's about it.</quote> It, The Stand, The Dark Tower, The Outsider are some of my favorite stories but all sputtered out in the end. The Shining is one of the few I have read that ended as strong as it started.</quote> The Stand is the only one of those that really sputtered out, though I honestly didn't think The Outsider was that strong to begin with. IT and The Dark Tower had fantastic endings.</quote> First half of The Outsider I think is up there with his best. But once the main mystery is resolved it lost a lot of its appeal. It I thought went off the rails starting with the kid orgy and culminating with the off the walls outer space battle. The Dark Tower to me got better with each book peaking at 4 (maybe my favorite book by him) then got worse with each book to 7.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 07/04/19 11:17:31 PM #44:	OctilIery posted... GeneralKenobi85 posted... The Stand's ending is lame but not enough to detract from the rest of the book. Also Lovecraft's racism is only pretty blatant in a handful of the stories. A Shadow Over Innsmouth is the most notable one. I wasn't a big fan of that one despite it being one of his most well-known stories. Isn't Horror at Red Hook considered the worst offender? Though Herbert West was pretty bad too, and he had smatterings all throughout. Maybe. Perhaps it's better to say Shadow Over Innsmouth illustrates his xenophobia the most. And then of course there's The Rats in the Walls which features his inappropriately named cat. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:924261514] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted...</cite> <quote>The Stand's ending is lame but not enough to detract from the rest of the book. Also Lovecraft's racism is only pretty blatant in a handful of the stories. A Shadow Over Innsmouth is the most notable one. I wasn't a big fan of that one despite it being one of his most well-known stories.</quote> Isn't Horror at Red Hook considered the worst offender? Though Herbert West was pretty bad too, and he had smatterings all throughout.</quote> Maybe. Perhaps it's better to say Shadow Over Innsmouth illustrates his xenophobia the most. And then of course there's The Rats in the Walls which features his inappropriately named cat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 07/04/19 11:23:20 PM #45:	what did Lovecraft name his cat --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://error1355.com/ce/SSJGrimReaper.html <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:924261689] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>what did Lovecraft name his cat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 07/04/19 11:26:50 PM #46:	Bad_Mojo posted... You can't compare the two at all. One of them writes fiction and the other writes non-fiction. Totally different genres I guess the truth is stranger than fiction Quality post. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:924261786] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bad_Mojo posted...</cite> <quote>You can't compare the two at all. One of them writes fiction and the other writes non-fiction. Totally different genres I guess the truth is stranger than fiction</quote> Quality post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/04/19 11:32:52 PM #47:	SSJGrimReaper posted... what did Lovecraft name his cat Something we couldn't say here without getting modded. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:924261964] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJGrimReaper posted...</cite> <quote>what did Lovecraft name his cat</quote> Something we couldn't say here without getting modded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 07/04/19 11:38:06 PM #48:	jumi posted... Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy. Most of the stories begin with "I saw something terrible and I couldn't dare bring myself to relive it... here's a super long winded version of what I saw" --- GameFlux: Unofficial GameFAQs board browser <cite>lilORANG posted [p:924262121] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>Lovercraft's stories are always: 1. Hints of something horrible. 2. Something horrible appears (but is never described). 3. Anyone who sees it goes crazy.</quote> Most of the stories begin with "I saw something terrible and I couldn't dare bring myself to relive it... here's a super long winded version of what I saw"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
qwertyuio1 07/05/19 11:07:43 PM #49:	so its looking like Lovecraft has UI & Stephen King has SSBE --- My neighbor is Paul McCartney <cite>qwertyuio1 posted [p:924302232] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>so its looking like Lovecraft has UI & Stephen King has SSBE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
qwertyuio1 07/07/19 3:03:20 AM #50:	47 to 34 is pretty epic though --- My neighbor is Paul McCartney <cite>qwertyuio1 posted [p:924351500] in Stephen Ki... [t:77837714]...</cite> <quote>47 to 34 is pretty epic though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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