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GrimCyclone 07/10/19 6:58:22 PM #1: |
In California.
This can't actually be true. Actual citizens get less healthcare benefits than illegals? Like those homeless people we hear about. Gentlemen, I don't think I can play this game anymore. *hobbles away to die under a rock in the desert*. --- "When he raises himself up, the mighty fear; Because of the crashing they are bewildered." https://imgur.com/EmR62Z5 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VidGameGuy 07/10/19 7:02:42 PM #2: |
So basically you're getting rewarded for breaking the law
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CTLM 07/10/19 7:29:16 PM #4: |
Same thing here in NY. Ridiculous
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The_tall_midget 07/10/19 7:33:20 PM #5: |
You can thank the crazy regressives in charge of those states. Open borders, encouraging tons of illegals to get in, and throwing welfare/socialism at every idiot and their mother will give you exactly what is happening, and the people who keep arguing in favor of it will never, ever accept their failed views.
Uncontrolled socialism and open borders have always failed and will continue to fail miserably. All you need to do is look at how fast Europe and democrat ran states are turning into super shit holes to further prove the failure of socialism and the left. they don't give a shit if facts and history keep showering them with failure, all that matters is how they feel about things. How stupid. --- "There is no crisis at the border!" "The border crisis is manufactured!" "OMG! Look at that crisis at de border!" -Lol leftists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWorstPoster 07/10/19 7:34:43 PM #6: |
Illegal aliens should be deported, and banned from reentry for 10 years. They not only insult those who came to this country LEGALLY, but if they did NOT cross the border illegally, they would have NO risk of deportation.
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NeoSioType 07/10/19 7:39:37 PM #7: |
Step 1: Renounce citizenship
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VidGameGuy 07/10/19 7:49:34 PM #8: |
TheWorstPoster posted...
Illegal aliens should be deported, and banned from reentry for 10 years. They not only insult those who came to this country LEGALLY, but if they did NOT cross the border illegally, they would have NO risk of deportation. This ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blighboy 07/10/19 8:10:11 PM #9: |
Last I heard undocumented migrants were being sexually assaulted by government officials.
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streamofthesky 07/10/19 8:24:49 PM #10: |
Not going to watch a video by that tool, but even if it is true....
Is getting better healthcare than the average U.S. citizen really a high bar to clear? If someone said, "I have a lower chance of being shot in my neighborhood than people in Iraq" and that person didn't live in the U.S., would anyone be impressed? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 07/10/19 8:57:17 PM #11: |
The only government healthcare they should get is prison healthcare >_>
streamofthesky posted... If someone said, "I have a lower chance of being shot in my neighborhood than people in Iraq" and that person didn't live in the U.S., would anyone be impressed? --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 07/10/19 8:58:46 PM #12: |
There's no point in medical gouging people with no money, so the insurance companies just treat them fairly.
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Phantom_Nook 07/10/19 8:58:53 PM #13: |
The_tall_midget posted...
socialism There it is. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yellow 07/10/19 9:32:17 PM #14: |
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Lokarin 07/10/19 9:32:50 PM #15: |
Yellow posted...
Have any of you bothered to fact check this? No, you have to take it at face value... incredulously --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 07/10/19 9:38:06 PM #16: |
And people want this state to run the entire country. Smh.
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Zeus 07/10/19 10:33:12 PM #17: |
Yellow posted...
Have any of you bothered to fact check this? It's California. But fine, let me check some headlines... https://www.npr.org/2019/07/10/740147546/california-first-state-to-offer-health-benefits-to-adult-undocumented-immigrants If NPR is reporting a story that makes the left look like shit, it's probably a real thing. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sarcasthma 07/10/19 11:34:41 PM #18: |
TheWorstPoster posted...
Illegal aliens should be deported, and banned from reentry for 10 years. They not only insult those who came to this country LEGALLY, but if they did NOT cross the border illegally, they would have NO risk of deportation. Can we also deport you for fraudulently spending your government checks? --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWitchMorgana 07/10/19 11:36:22 PM #19: |
Since 2016, California has allowed children under 18 to receive taxpayer-backed health care despite immigration status. And state officials expect that the plan will cover roughly 90,000 people. oh wow 90,000 people in a state of almost 40 million? they're gonna go bankrupt --- formerly Kanakiri, Sefrig, etc. no longer into soda :( https://i.imgtc.ws/hzzfqsE.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadowsword87 07/10/19 11:36:30 PM #20: |
You're very right.
American citizens should get better healthcare. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 07/11/19 12:08:41 AM #21: |
shadowsword87 posted...
You're very right. Republicans don't want that either, tho. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blibber1 07/11/19 12:20:38 AM #22: |
*looks at video.*
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Mead 07/11/19 12:21:40 AM #23: |
Veedrock- posted...
And people want this state to run the entire country. Smh. Ive never heard anyone say that --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 07/11/19 12:23:11 AM #24: |
Sounds like an excellent opportunity to get citizens better healthcare.
The_tall_midget posted... All you need to do is look at how fast Europe and democrat ran states are turning into super shit holes to further prove the failure of socialism and the left. People have been telling me this for as long as I've paid attention to politics and it has never once been true since the end of the Cold War. The top 15 states by murder rate are, in order, Louisiana, Missouri, Nevada, Maryland, Arkansas, Alaska, Alabama, Mississippi, Illinois, South Carolina, Tennessee, New Mexico, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Ohio. That's three blue states, two swing states (and that's being generous given that one of them is Ohio, which has been trending red lately), and a full ten Republican states, including some of the reddest states in the country. By contrast, the 15 lowest are New Hampshire, North Dakota, Maine, Idaho, Rhode Island, Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Utah, Massachusetts, Oregon, Wyoming, Hawaii, Connecticut, and New York - five red states, three swing (all blue-leaning), and seven Democrat. Left-wing states are simply safer than their right-wing peers. And, of course, the US as a whole has a soaring murder rate of 5.35 per 100k - clocking in just ahead of powerhouses like Ecuador, Ukraine, and Afghanistan, but not quite matching heavyweights like Pakistan, Lebanon, or Cuba in terms of safety. Meanwhile, the socialist and democratic-socialist European states manage to do pretty well for themselves - Finland (not coincidentally the most gun-friendly socialist country) is the closest to the US, with roughly a quarter of the murder rate (1.35 per 100k), but not quite matching Sweden (1.08), Denmark (0.98), Greece (0.75), the Netherlands (0.55), Norway (0.51), or Iceland (0.3). Meanwhile, the World Happiness Report's top 10 of happiest countries is dominated by European socialist countries (top 10 2019 countries are, in order, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, New Zealand, Canada, and Austria). Most have comparable GDP per capita (Norway actually beats out the US, which is #10 overall, while the Netherlands, Iceland, Sweden, and Denmark are all in the top 20). Norway, Sweden, and Denmark all have higher median household incomes than the US (and the Netherlands and Finland aren't far behind) and virtually all the socialist nations enjoy much lower levels of income inequality than the US. Norway is the highest ranked country on the Human Development Index, with Iceland, Sweden and the Netherlands also in the top 10. All of those, plus Denmark, are higher than the US (which ranks 13th). All these "super shitholes" honestly sound vastly more pleasant to live in than America, to be quite honest... --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWitchMorgana 07/11/19 12:26:37 AM #25: |
norway, sweden, denmark etc aren't even socialist, they're capitalist countries with decent welfare policies
americans just don't realize their unfettered capitalism isn't how it's supposed to be, you can see that with all the people in here who don't even know what socialism is so they just scream about it whenever something to do with welfare comes up. it's sad to watch but i can hardly blame you for being brainwashed when it's literally always around you --- formerly Kanakiri, Sefrig, etc. no longer into soda :( https://i.imgtc.ws/hzzfqsE.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 07/11/19 12:31:54 AM #26: |
One other factoid I forgot to mention in my last post - of the 10 wealthiest US states by median income, all but two are strongly Democratic (in order: Maryland, New Jersey, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Alaska, California, Virginia, and Washington). The exceptions are republican Alaska (most of which comes from a combination of a small population and the presence of large amounts of easily accessible oil) and swing-state New Hampshire.
By contrast, the 10 poorest states are (with just one exception in blue New Mexico) all strongly Republican: West Virginia, Mississippi, Arkansas, New Mexico, Lousiana, Alabama, Kentucky, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Tennessee. TheWitchMorgana posted... norway, sweden, denmark etc aren't even socialist, they're capitalist countries with decent welfare policies Hence why I added the qualifier of "Democratic Socialist" in there as well. Honestly, there aren't many true socialist countries anymore - China (with a huge asterisk, as it's moved decidedly more towards a free-market economy in the last 10-20 years), Cuba, and Vietnam are pretty much the only ones I can think of and the problems with those countries reach far beyond what level of capitalism they allow within their borders. That said, the countries I named are the most socialistic in Europe and the ones a certain brand of conservatives shriek in horror about when they start rambling about the "evils of socialism". These are the same people who thought Obama was a socialist - if you go by that metric, these countries (along with virtually every other democratic nation on the planet) are hardcore socialist. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jramirez23 07/11/19 1:08:03 AM #27: |
Isnt this just expanding a system to cover more people? If so, then I dont see anything wrong with that. We need these kinds of things to keep our civilization running. And contrary to what you might hear on TV, illegal immigrants arent all bad people who decided to come to the US by their own volition. Hence, why this bill seems to be for the benefit of a younger audience.
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Veedrock- 07/11/19 1:21:26 AM #29: |
Mead posted...
Veedrock- posted...And people want this state to run the entire country. Smh. Says mister "Hillary won the popular vote." --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/11/19 1:28:08 AM #30: |
Veedrock- posted...
Mead posted...Veedrock- posted...And people want this state to run the entire country. Smh. Anyone can say that considering its an objective fact Not sure what it has to do with anything though considering Trump won the election --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/11/19 1:59:50 AM #32: |
Zangulus posted...
Mead posted...Veedrock- posted...Mead posted...Veedrock- posted...And people want this state to run the entire country. Smh. Conservatives could still hold power without the electoral college and gerrymandering if they adjusting their policies to appeal to the majority of americans. Thats democracy at work. But theyve chosen another way. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 07/11/19 2:10:18 AM #33: |
Y'all are taking a joke way too seriously.
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Phantom_Nook 07/11/19 2:15:31 AM #34: |
I wAs JoKiNg GuYs
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Blighboy 07/11/19 2:24:28 AM #35: |
Conservatives could also adjust their policies to appeal to the majority of Americans
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aDirtyShisno 07/11/19 3:53:07 AM #36: |
Zeus posted...
Yellow posted...Have any of you bothered to fact check this? Ive already reported this multiple times but nobody here wants to accept reality. Its too crazy even for them. --- Que sera, sera. Whatever happens, happens. ...and he was never heard from again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/11/19 4:01:51 AM #37: |
Its cheaper to give them some level of healthcare than to have them go to emergency rooms where they make wait times even worse
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kangolcone 07/11/19 5:17:57 AM #38: |
Zeus posted...
Yellow posted...Have any of you bothered to fact check this? Yeah, because making sure sick people can have access to a doctor is abhorrent. --- Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cacciato 07/11/19 5:46:08 AM #39: |
TheWorstPoster posted...
Illegal aliens should be deported, and banned from reentry for 10 years. They not only insult those who came to this country LEGALLY, but if they did NOT cross the border illegally, they would have NO risk of deportation. It must be weird bitching about a group of people that have paid more in taxes than you ever have. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmokeMassTree 07/11/19 6:28:14 AM #40: |
Veedrock- posted...
And people want this state to run the entire country. Smh. Who? I'll have their heads --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 07/11/19 10:20:02 AM #41: |
I don't understand where any of ryese articles say they getting better Healthcare than citizens. They're becoming eligible for Medicaid which citizens are eligible for.
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ArvTheGreat 07/11/19 10:29:18 AM #42: |
it is california so it makes sense
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RoboXgp89 07/11/19 10:35:28 AM #43: |
Jen0125 posted...
I don't understand where any of ryese articles say they getting better Healthcare than citizens. They're becoming eligible for Medicaid which citizens are eligible for. lol we have to pay 800$ to NOT receive healthcare my brother is a nurse and doesn't have healthcare --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 07/11/19 10:39:32 AM #44: |
TheWitchMorgana posted...
Since 2016, California has allowed children under 18 to receive taxpayer-backed health care despite immigration status. And state officials expect that the plan will cover roughly 90,000 people. more like 1-2 million --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 07/11/19 10:40:01 AM #45: |
TheWitchMorgana posted...
norway, sweden, denmark etc aren't even socialist, they're capitalist countries with decent welfare policies Haven't you been paying attention? Either a country is completely anarcho-capitalist and the free market rules everything, or it's a communist dump where everybody slaves for the glory of Dear Leader. Don't go suggesting that any countries have managed to find effective middle grounds by applying different philosophies to different aspects of running the country in ways that make sense, because obviously that's not possible. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 07/11/19 10:46:09 AM #46: |
adjl posted...
TheWitchMorgana posted...norway, sweden, denmark etc aren't even socialist, they're capitalist countries with decent welfare policies it's just moral decay at this point the damage was done when obama implemented it half ass, it made health insurance unaffordable for some people now everyone is going to foot the bill when they pay taxes the billionaires won't spend a dime --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWitchMorgana 07/11/19 11:41:43 AM #48: |
RoboXgp89 posted...
TheWitchMorgana posted...Since 2016, California has allowed children under 18 to receive taxpayer-backed health care despite immigration status. And state officials expect that the plan will cover roughly 90,000 people. not sure where youre getting that figure? the npr article says currently it covers 90,000 and will be expanded to 138,000 in the first year (mostly covering the children of undocumented immigrants) i didnt watch the video grimcyclone posted since it doesnt appear to be a credible source --- formerly Kanakiri, Sefrig, etc. no longer into soda :( https://i.imgtc.ws/hzzfqsE.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CTLM 07/11/19 11:45:10 AM #49: |
TheWitchMorgana posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...TheWitchMorgana posted...Since 2016, California has allowed children under 18 to receive taxpayer-backed health care despite immigration status. And state officials expect that the plan will cover roughly 90,000 people. Yay stats! http://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigrants-in-california ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWitchMorgana 07/11/19 11:51:23 AM #50: |
adjl posted...
TheWitchMorgana posted...norway, sweden, denmark etc aren't even socialist, they're capitalist countries with decent welfare policies well said, comrade. glory to dear leader trudeau --- formerly Kanakiri, Sefrig, etc. no longer into soda :( https://i.imgtc.ws/hzzfqsE.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheWitchMorgana 07/11/19 11:51:59 AM #51: |
CTLM posted...
TheWitchMorgana posted...RoboXgp89 posted...TheWitchMorgana posted...Since 2016, California has allowed children under 18 to receive taxpayer-backed health care despite immigration status. And state officials expect that the plan will cover roughly 90,000 people. ok? thats how many immigrants there are, not how many will be covered under this recent expansion --- formerly Kanakiri, Sefrig, etc. no longer into soda :( https://i.imgtc.ws/hzzfqsE.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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