Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement

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turbopuns3
07/15/19 4:11:18 PM
#301:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Im going to laugh if Lopen was this obvious the entire time and weve just sat here dicking around.


I mean I know it seems like I'm doing nothing currently, because that's kinda true, because after work I'm going to continue reading the last bits I wanted to look over again.

I really see no rush I don't foresee a lot of clarity coming from me probing you guys here. As far as meaningful talk, the pressure will exert itself as time winds down.
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Lopen
07/15/19 4:11:41 PM
#302:


Lopen posted...
Ulti if Puns hypothetically doesn't post anything from his notes before end of day and doesn't argue anyone, who do you end up voting?


Ulti can you answer this by the way
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Lopen
07/15/19 4:21:09 PM
#304:


Really? Consider the implications of Puns choosing not to post anything while claiming he has a huge analysis to give us.
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turbopuns3
07/15/19 4:25:45 PM
#305:


Lopen posted...
claiming he has a huge analysis


again, you're putting words in my mouth here
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Lopen
07/15/19 4:26:46 PM
#306:


Whatever. You claim you have something. I just want ulti to think what you claiming you have something all day and never actually giving us anything means, in a hypothetical.
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turbopuns3
07/15/19 4:31:23 PM
#307:


Lopen posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
I recall Lopen not buying Bens claim and then saying he wanted to check the scans by lynching Ben first, which is just absurd


If SBell is the scum this game would've been much easier if we'd done that tbh.


I'm not following this, what do you mean
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Lopen
07/15/19 4:32:24 PM
#308:


turbopuns3 posted...
Lopen posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
I recall Lopen not buying Bens claim and then saying he wanted to check the scans by lynching Ben first, which is just absurd


If SBell is the scum this game would've been much easier if we'd done that tbh.


I'm not following this, what do you mean


SBell would have been lynched days ago if he wasn't cop scanned. Before Cam and Lea for sure.
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turbopuns3
07/15/19 4:36:23 PM
#309:


Ulti what do you think is Lopen's reason for laser focusing me last game day without considering SBell? or Sheep until the very end?
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HanOfTheNekos
07/15/19 4:47:29 PM
#310:


Votals
(1) SBell: Lopen
(1) Lopen: SBell
(0) No Lynch: (Lopen)

Day ends tonight at 9 p.m. EDT, in roughly 4 hours and 12 minutes.

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Lopen
07/15/19 5:16:21 PM
#312:


Ulti do you think I thought I'd convince anyone left in the game to lynch Puns yesterday?
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Obellisk
07/15/19 5:20:10 PM
#313:


When Lopen flips scum do I get a smidgen of credit for wanting to lynch him day 1?
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Lopen
07/15/19 5:28:44 PM
#315:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I mean its what you were CLEARLY going for, and now youre throwing shade at him for rereading.


That's not what I asked. I'm asking if you thought I could do it considering I'd have to win one of you or SBell over to do it.
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turbopuns3
07/15/19 5:42:30 PM
#316:


can I just lynch everyone? -_-
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Lopen
07/15/19 5:52:03 PM
#318:


No response to my question and response to the silly post huh.

Disappointing.
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turbopuns3
07/15/19 5:53:40 PM
#319:


UltimaterializerX posted...
no lynch


seriously considering it honestly. SBell pretty plainly said if we're going to lynch him he'd request extra time
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Obellisk
07/15/19 5:57:14 PM
#321:


turbopuns3 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
no lynch


seriously considering it honestly. SBell pretty plainly said if we're going to lynch him he'd request extra time


Indeed. Not sure exactly what research I can do to pursuade me to lynch either Ulti or puns. But I'd rather have a fair shot at not having us lose to scum
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Lopen
07/15/19 5:58:29 PM
#322:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Lopen posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
I mean its what you were CLEARLY going for, and now youre throwing shade at him for rereading.


That's not what I asked. I'm asking if you thought I could do it considering I'd have to win one of you or SBell over to do it.

Anything is possible, yes.

Full disclosure: I was considering voting Sheep myself but Stu hammered early.


Getting you two to vote Puns. Not Sheep.
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Lopen
07/15/19 5:59:37 PM
#323:


Obellisk posted...
Not sure exactly what research I can do to pursuade me to lynch either Ulti or puns. But I'd rather have a fair shot at not having us lose to scum


Humor me. What would you do and why isn't it something you could have at least started today?
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Obellisk
07/15/19 6:02:10 PM
#324:


Lopen posted...
Obellisk posted...
Not sure exactly what research I can do to pursuade me to lynch either Ulti or puns. But I'd rather have a fair shot at not having us lose to scum


Humor me. What would you do and why isn't it something you could have at least started today?


I spent my day yesterday at sesame place with the kids.

I woke up this morning feeling like I didn't even sleep and have been at the office since 8am. I've been insanely busy doing my job and am currently wondering if I even have the brain capacity to work late and try to make a dent in all these files or if I should just go home and go in early tomorrow.

The fact that you've gotten this much out of me since the day began is a fucking miracle. But I knew if I didn't show at all you'd have a better shot at getting puns and Ulti to lynch me.
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:02:42 PM
#325:


What would you do?
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:07:10 PM
#327:


How about this: I don't I could convince both you and SBell to vote puns yesterday. Do you think I'm lying when I say this?
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:07:45 PM
#328:


*I didn't think I could convince both you and SBell to vote puns yesterday.
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Obellisk
07/15/19 6:08:54 PM
#329:


Lopen posted...
What would you do?


ISO flipped scum. Exhibit how when I came up they didn't try to kill me (I'm assuming as much because I recall both Luis and Death saying I was town). You could chalk it off as them trying to distance themselves from me but I'm literally a bus waiting to happen for a scum team.

ISO Lopen to point out his manipulations of the game during critical discussions leading to town lynches or confusion.

ISO puns and Ulti to further defend my stance on them.

Thats the best I could do. But frankly I'd really rather us just lynch you. Save me the trouble and then I'll drink a beer in your hard fought honor.
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:10:34 PM
#331:


So you think you're going to have the time to do that when you had no time to do any of that in the last, I don't know, 3 or 4 in game days? So like, the past week and a half?
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:12:53 PM
#332:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I think thats a lie or you wouldnt have bothered trying, bro.


So you think I'm delusional about my skill? It wasn't even remotely close. How am I going to flip two guys who said I was scum and the guy I'm arguing for is town?
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Obellisk
07/15/19 6:13:57 PM
#333:


Lopen posted...
So you think you're going to have the time to do that when you had no time to do any of that in the last, I don't know, 3 or 4 in game days? So like, the past week and a half?


Well once I was double scanned I really was just hoping to die.
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:15:45 PM
#334:


Obellisk posted...
Lopen posted...
So you think you're going to have the time to do that when you had no time to do any of that in the last, I don't know, 3 or 4 in game days? So like, the past week and a half?


Well once I was double scanned I really was just hoping to die.


Do you think you'll have time?

Why didn't you do anything during last in game day? It's near the end game then. Did you think you were going to get killed yesterday?
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:17:50 PM
#336:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Lopen posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
I think thats a lie or you wouldnt have bothered trying, bro.


So you think I'm delusional about my skill? It wasn't even remotely close. How am I going to flip two guys who said I was scum and the guy I'm arguing for is town?

Its VERY easy to say this after the fact.


It's very easy to say it before the fact too, since the whole argument was structured on assumed failure. My whole approach was "don't lynch Sheep, lynch me if you won't lynch puns" What do you think the endgame was there?
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turbopuns3
07/15/19 6:27:14 PM
#337:


You changed your tune didn't ya
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:30:34 PM
#338:


I certainly did. But it was only through you arguing to lynch sheep and sheep's relative inactivity that made me doubt enough to abort the mission. If sheep is less conspicuously inactive or you continue to freak out because of my vote on you, how do I escape the suicide mission I wonder?
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Obellisk
07/15/19 6:32:15 PM
#339:


Lopen posted...
Did you think you were going to get killed yesterday?


Obellisk posted...
Son of a bitch, I'm still alive...

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Lopen
07/15/19 6:33:12 PM
#340:


Obellisk posted...
Son of a bitch, I'm still alive...


Yes that was a reaction you had. But why would you, who has been a worthless lump all game, be killed?
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Obellisk
07/15/19 6:38:47 PM
#341:


Lopen posted...
Obellisk posted...
Son of a bitch, I'm still alive...


Yes that was a reaction you had. But why would you, who has been a worthless lump all game, be killed?


Because I'm scanned town and confirmed to be my claimed flavor.

In hindsight, I know the only reason I'm alive is for the easy lynch.

Honestly, if Ulti is scum he can kill me and still walk out of this game a victor, puns can kill me and still walk out a victor. You however, you can't kill me and have thought for one second that you were safe.
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:42:36 PM
#342:


Obellisk posted...
You however, you can't kill me and have thought for one second that you were safe.


Well hey you figured out where I was trying to lead you.

It doesn't really make sense for you think you'd die if you actually thought I was the scum, does it?
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Obellisk
07/15/19 6:46:04 PM
#343:


Lopen posted...
Obellisk posted...
You however, you can't kill me and have thought for one second that you were safe.


Well hey you figured out where I was trying to lead you.

It doesn't really make sense for you think you'd die if you actually thought I was the scum, does it?


Well I do actually think you are the scum. It's not an "if" statement.

And I didn't come to the conclusion you needed me alive to win till after I wasn't killed.
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turbopuns3
07/15/19 6:47:18 PM
#344:


Lopen what was the point of all your survivor references last day
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Obellisk
07/15/19 6:47:23 PM
#345:


Not sure if trying to slip me up and make me look like scum or if you are trying to get me to think you aren't scum and I should lynch someone else.

So confused by your actions today.
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Lopen
07/15/19 6:55:20 PM
#346:


turbopuns3 posted...
Lopen what was the point of all your survivor references last day


5+1 seemed like a balanced setup and SBell's play seems like a jackass survivor. If SBell was a jackass survivor him just admitting it would have let me feel better about Sheep's lynch. If it's just 5 and not 5+1 then the "flavor trap" angle on Sheep has more merit because scum needs some help for that to not be harsh to them.

Obellisk posted...
Not sure if trying to slip me up and make me look like scum or if you are trying to get me to think you aren't scum and I should lynch someone else.

So confused by your actions today.


Either works. If you're town you're playing poorly (and it's not just because "I know I'm town") and you should try and figure out the game. If you're scum then I'm trying to get you to look worse. I think I've succeeded in the latter to some extent but on the other hand Puns + Ulti playing the day like they want to hammer the other one when they vote is understandably giving me doubt.
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turbopuns3
07/15/19 6:58:44 PM
#347:


Lopen posted...
Puns + Ulti playing the day like they want to hammer the other one when they vote is understandably giving me doubt.


Honestly Lopen, your voting from the hip in endgame is not normal. Not saying it's the worst thing ever or that you can't be right, but taking full time is typical.
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Obellisk
07/15/19 6:59:37 PM
#348:


Lopen posted...
5+1 seemed like a balanced setup and SBell's play seems like a jackass survivor. If SBell was a jackass survivor him just admitting it would have let me feel better about Sheep's lynch. If it's just 5 and not 5+1 then the "flavor trap" angle on Sheep has more merit because scum needs some help for that to not be harsh to them.


For what it's worth, if I was alive and it was final 3 I was going to open the day by claiming independent survivor and asking scum to reveal themselves so we could lynch town and win for scum who clearly deserves it. Then I was going to vote for the scums.

Of course it's a foolish thought for many reasons especially since the flipped cop scanned me and said I was Town. Don't think he would have gotten that result if I wasn't Town.
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Obellisk
07/15/19 7:01:06 PM
#349:


turbopuns3 posted...
Lopen posted...
Puns + Ulti playing the day like they want to hammer the other one when they vote is understandably giving me doubt.


Honestly Lopen, your voting from the hip in endgame is not normal. Not saying it's the worst thing ever or that you can't be right, but taking full time is typical.


In lopens defense (odd I know). In a final four you can safely drop a vote to get your point across.
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Lopen
07/15/19 7:03:30 PM
#350:


turbopuns3 posted...
Honestly Lopen, your voting from the hip in endgame is not normal. Not saying it's the worst thing ever or that you can't be right, but taking full time is typical.


Votes are one thing, but I'm the only one driving any discussion whatsoever, here. You're sifting through earlier game stuff and Ulti is waiting for you to sift through earlier game stuff. Seems like one of you wants to react to the other one. It's unsettling.
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