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Maze_ 07/31/19 4:57:26 PM #1:	Loki turns up. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Ultron turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Thanos turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Hydra takes over sheild Superman hears them instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of everyone Guy with laser whips ...erm..whips people. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Pretty much the only movies he couldn't end instantly are Dr Strange , Thor 2 and maybe hed fall for Mysterio in Far From Home. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925442860] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Loki turns up. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Ultron turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Thanos turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Hydra takes over sheild Superman hears them instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of everyone Guy with laser whips ...erm..whips people. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Pretty much the only movies he couldn't end instantly are Dr Strange , Thor 2 and maybe hed fall for Mysterio in Far From Home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 07/31/19 4:58:30 PM #2:	Superman has regular issues dealing with normal-old smart human Lex Luthor. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:925442904] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Superman has regular issues dealing with normal-old smart human Lex Luthor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 07/31/19 5:01:45 PM #3:	K181 posted... Superman has regular issues dealing with normal-old smart human Lex Luthor. Sure and he would have problems with Stark. But not any... Well many of the MCU villains --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925443070] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>Superman has regular issues dealing with normal-old smart human Lex Luthor.</quote> Sure and he would have problems with Stark. But not any... Well many of the MCU villains</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 07/31/19 5:06:12 PM #4:	Superman is nerfed all the time though. They could maybe justify all three of those villains being a tough match for Superman. But at the end of the day Superman doesn't fit in the Marvel universe. Also I don't think he really uses his super hearing in that way. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:925443282] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Superman is nerfed all the time though. They could maybe justify all three of those villains being a tough match for Superman. But at the end of the day Superman doesn't fit in the Marvel universe. Also I don't think he really uses his super hearing in that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenXylophone 07/31/19 5:08:38 PM #5:	In no movie does Superman hear the bad guy and rush to beat him up. Guess you didn't ever watch any superman movie. <cite>FrozenXylophone posted [p:925443392] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>In no movie does Superman hear the bad guy and rush to beat him up. Guess you didn't ever watch any superman movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge Antilles 07/31/19 5:10:05 PM #6:	Sounds boring. Just like Superman. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge Antilles posted [p:925443448] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Sounds boring. Just like Superman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maze_ 08/01/19 6:51:20 AM #8:	FrozenXylophone posted... In no movie does Superman hear the bad guy and rush to beat him up. Guess you didn't ever watch any superman movie. That's because his movies contrive scenarios were he can't do that MCU didn't --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925468177] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>In no movie does Superman hear the bad guy and rush to beat him up. Guess you didn't ever watch any superman movie.</quote> That's because his movies contrive scenarios were he can't do that MCU didn't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 08/01/19 7:23:23 AM #9:	Superman FUCKS MYSTERIO UP HARD. ~~His x-ray vision immediately sees the drones, and he melts them with his laser eyes.~~ --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:925468714] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Superman FUCKS MYSTERIO UP HARD. His x-ray vision immediately sees the drones, and he melts them with his laser eyes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 08/01/19 7:34:07 AM #10:	Superman would hold no candle to an Infinity Gauntlet wielding Thanos. He would also lose to super natural and mythical beings like Dormmamu. Scarlet Witch would beat him as would SS Dr. Strange. Supes one weakness is magic. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:925468920] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Superman would hold no candle to an Infinity Gauntlet wielding Thanos. He would also lose to super natural and mythical beings like Dormmamu. Scarlet Witch would beat him as would SS Dr. Strange. Supes one weakness is magic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 08/01/19 10:35:31 AM #11:	chrono625 posted... Supes one weakness is magic. I guess Kryptonite is considering magic? --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:925473388] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote>Supes one weakness is magic.</quote> I guess Kryptonite is considering magic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 08/01/19 11:41:49 AM #12:	Banjo2553 posted... I guess Kryptonite is considering magic? Well, two weaknesses. But let's assume kryptonite isnt available in MCU. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:925475894] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Banjo2553 posted... </cite> <quote>I guess Kryptonite is considering magic?</quote> Well, two weaknesses. But let's assume kryptonite isnt available in MCU. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 11:54:28 AM #13:	Maze_ posted... Loki turns up. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Ultron turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Thanos turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Hydra takes over sheild Superman hears them instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of everyone Guy with laser whips ...erm..whips people. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Pretty much the only movies he couldn't end instantly are Dr Strange , Thor 2 and maybe hed fall for Mysterio in Far From Home. This doesn't really happen in DC Comics so I'm not sure why you'd think it would happen in movies. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925476436] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite> <quote>Loki turns up. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Ultron turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Thanos turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Hydra takes over sheild Superman hears them instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of everyone Guy with laser whips ...erm..whips people. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Pretty much the only movies he couldn't end instantly are Dr Strange , Thor 2 and maybe hed fall for Mysterio in Far From Home.</quote>This doesn't really happen in DC Comics so I'm not sure why you'd think it would happen in movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 08/01/19 12:02:45 PM #14:	chrono625 posted... Banjo2553 posted... I guess Kryptonite is considering magic? Well, two weaknesses. But let's assume kryptonite isnt available in MCU. How can you have a Superman, from Krypton, and not have Kryptonite though? Not really fair to give an OP guy like Superman even more advantages. Then again, if you did include Kryptonite in the mix, Stark would destroy him no problem since he wouldnt be silly about it like Batman. As far as the original post goes, Superman hears Loki, shows up and gets his face wrecked because Loki uses magic. Also, Hulk would most likely kick his ass. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:925476773] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote>Banjo2553 posted... </cite> <quote>I guess Kryptonite is considering magic?</quote> Well, two weaknesses. But let's assume kryptonite isnt available in MCU. </quote> How can you have a Superman, from Krypton, and not have Kryptonite though? Not really fair to give an OP guy like Superman even more advantages. Then again, if you did include Kryptonite in the mix, Stark would destroy him no problem since he wouldnt be silly about it like Batman. As far as the original post goes, Superman hears Loki, shows up and gets his face wrecked because Loki uses magic. Also, Hulk would most likely kick his ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 08/01/19 12:04:14 PM #15:	meralonne posted... Then again, if you did include Kryptonite in the mix, Stark would destroy him no problem since he wouldnt be silly about it like Batman. Kryptonite makes anything against superman too easy. I like to avoid it because it's the always go to when someone needs to "beat" superman. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:925476830] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>Then again, if you did include Kryptonite in the mix, Stark would destroy him no problem since he wouldnt be silly about it like Batman.</quote> Kryptonite makes anything against superman too easy. I like to avoid it because it's the always go to when someone needs to "beat" superman. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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slimjimfizzle 08/01/19 12:07:10 PM #17:	chrono625 posted... SS Dr. Strange. Dr. Strange went Super Saiyan? --- I dub thee Sir Phobos, Knight of Mars, beater of ass. <cite>slimjimfizzle posted [p:925476955] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote>SS Dr. Strange.</quote> Dr. Strange went Super Saiyan?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 08/01/19 12:10:20 PM #18:	chrono625 posted... meralonne posted... Then again, if you did include Kryptonite in the mix, Stark would destroy him no problem since he wouldnt be silly about it like Batman. Kryptonite makes anything against superman too easy. I like to avoid it because it's the always go to when someone needs to "beat" superman. Sure, but only because every time you put Superman in a movie without other Kryptonians, somebody has to pull Kryptonite out of their ass. I think if you collected all the Kryponite that has been used on Superman in the comics, it would be like the entire planet Krypton blew up and all fragments flew right towards Earth. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:925477100] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>Then again, if you did include Kryptonite in the mix, Stark would destroy him no problem since he wouldnt be silly about it like Batman.</quote> Kryptonite makes anything against superman too easy. I like to avoid it because it's the always go to when someone needs to "beat" superman. </quote> Sure, but only because every time you put Superman in a movie without other Kryptonians, somebody has to pull Kryptonite out of their ass. I think if you collected all the Kryponite that has been used on Superman in the comics, it would be like the entire planet Krypton blew up and all fragments flew right towards Earth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/01/19 12:17:25 PM #19:	Maze_ posted... Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. And proceeds to get fucked over by magic. Maze_ posted... Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. And proceeds to get knocked around by swarms of robots, or diverted while Ultron does other shit. Maze_ posted... Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. And proceeds to struggle against Thanos without the stones and lose miserably to Thanos with the stones. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:925477408] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him.</quote> And proceeds to get fucked over by magic. Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him.</quote> And proceeds to get knocked around by swarms of robots, or diverted while Ultron does other shit. Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. </quote> And proceeds to struggle against Thanos without the stones and lose miserably to Thanos with the stones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 08/01/19 1:12:52 PM #20:	Maze_ posted... Loki turns up. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Ultron turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Thanos turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Superman can't beat any of those people. So it'd be more like he rushes there and loses easily. MCU has Superman. Two of them. They're named Thor and Hulk. And now there's a third (they're trying to force) in Captain Marvel. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 5 star review, IndieReader approved: https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N/dp/1973143763/ <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:925479611] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>Loki turns up. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Ultron turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Thanos turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. </quote> Superman can't beat any of those people. So it'd be more like he rushes there and loses easily. MCU has Superman. Two of them. They're named Thor and Hulk. And now there's a third (they're trying to force) in Captain Marvel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/01/19 1:15:34 PM #21:	If Tony Stark had kryptonite he would kill Superman in like 2 seconds. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:925479699] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>If Tony Stark had kryptonite he would kill Superman in like 2 seconds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 2:47:47 PM #22:	Knowledge_King posted... Superman can't beat any of those people. So it'd be more like he rushes there and loses easily. MCU has Superman. Two of them. They're named Thor and Hulk. And now there's a third (they're trying to force) in Captain Marvel. This is the same kind of person who argues that Goku can beat Superman, I'm assuming. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925483551] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Knowledge_King posted... </cite> <quote>Superman can't beat any of those people. So it'd be more like he rushes there and loses easily. MCU has Superman. Two of them. They're named Thor and Hulk. And now there's a third (they're trying to force) in Captain Marvel.</quote> This is the same kind of person who argues that Goku can beat Superman, I'm assuming. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 2:48:57 PM #23:	Smashingpmkns posted... If Tony Stark had kryptonite he would kill Superman in like 2 seconds. Right. Superman has never survived an encounter with kryptonite before. \_()_/ --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925483611] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>If Tony Stark had kryptonite he would kill Superman in like 2 seconds.</quote> Right. Superman has never survived an encounter with kryptonite before. \_()_/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 08/01/19 2:50:51 PM #24:	Tyranthraxus posted... Right. Superman has never survived an encounter with kryptonite before. \_()_/ For the sake of him being a hero, no one has ever done it to the point where they should have (barring your typical over confident villain trope) just killed him out right. I think IM if he knew how much of a threat he was, would have zero qualms with sticking superman with a blade of kryptonite or fashioning a kryptonite core suit to fight him. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:925483698] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Right. Superman has never survived an encounter with kryptonite before. \_()_/</quote> For the sake of him being a hero, no one has ever done it to the point where they should have (barring your typical over confident villain trope) just killed him out right. I think IM if he knew how much of a threat he was, would have zero qualms with sticking superman with a blade of kryptonite or fashioning a kryptonite core suit to fight him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 3:11:48 PM #25:	chrono625 posted... For the sake of him being a hero, no one has ever done it to the point where they should have (barring your typical over confident villain trope) just killed him out right. I think IM if he knew how much of a threat he was, would have zero qualms with sticking superman with a blade of kryptonite or fashioning a kryptonite core suit to fight him. Lex Luthor already built a weaponized suit using Apokolips technology with all kinds of various colors of kryptonite crystals / lasers made through kryptonite radiation. Spoilers: you know how that ends --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925484529] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted... </cite> <quote>For the sake of him being a hero, no one has ever done it to the point where they should have (barring your typical over confident villain trope) just killed him out right. I think IM if he knew how much of a threat he was, would have zero qualms with sticking superman with a blade of kryptonite or fashioning a kryptonite core suit to fight him.</quote> Lex Luthor already built a weaponized suit using Apokolips technology with all kinds of various colors of kryptonite crystals / lasers made through kryptonite radiation. Spoilers: you know how that ends </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/01/19 3:14:30 PM #26:	Tyranthraxus posted... Smashingpmkns posted... If Tony Stark had kryptonite he would kill Superman in like 2 seconds. Right. Superman has never survived an encounter with kryptonite before. \_()_/ Iron Man would basically make a Hulk Buster suit capable of creating a kryptonite nuke blast. If Superman survives that it's literally just bad writing at that point. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:925484628] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote> If Tony Stark had kryptonite he would kill Superman in like 2 seconds.</quote> Right. Superman has never survived an encounter with kryptonite before. \_()_/ </quote> Iron Man would basically make a Hulk Buster suit capable of creating a kryptonite nuke blast. If Superman survives that it's literally just bad writing at that point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 3:16:33 PM #27:	Smashingpmkns posted... Iron Man would basically make a Hulk Buster suit capable of creating a kryptonite nuke blast. If Superman survives that it's literally just bad writing at that point. Tyranthraxus posted... Lex Luthor already built a weaponized suit using Apokolips technology with all kinds of various colors of kryptonite crystals / lasers made through kryptonite radiation. Spoilers: you know how that ends --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925484702] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Iron Man would basically make a Hulk Buster suit capable of creating a kryptonite nuke blast. If Superman survives that it's literally just bad writing at that point.</quote> Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Lex Luthor already built a weaponized suit using Apokolips technology with all kinds of various colors of kryptonite crystals / lasers made through kryptonite radiation. Spoilers: you know how that ends</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 08/01/19 3:19:07 PM #28:	Tyranthraxus posted... This is the same kind of person who argues that Goku can beat Superman, I'm assuming. Absolutely not. I've always known/said Superman would stomp Goku. I've been on this site, arguing that. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 5 star review, IndieReader approved: https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N/dp/1973143763/ <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:925484821] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>This is the same kind of person who argues that Goku can beat Superman, I'm assuming.</quote> Absolutely not. I've always known/said Superman would stomp Goku. I've been on this site, arguing that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/01/19 3:23:03 PM #29:	Tyranthraxus posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Iron Man would basically make a Hulk Buster suit capable of creating a kryptonite nuke blast. If Superman survives that it's literally just bad writing at that point. Tyranthraxus posted... Lex Luthor already built a weaponized suit using Apokolips technology with all kinds of various colors of kryptonite crystals / lasers made through kryptonite radiation. Spoilers: you know how that ends Sounds like bad writing without the context. You have a super weapon with the guys only weakness being the focus of the weapon and for whatever reason it doesn't kill him? Nah. Iron Man also doesn't have the same faults as Lex. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:925484982] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote> Iron Man would basically make a Hulk Buster suit capable of creating a kryptonite nuke blast. If Superman survives that it's literally just bad writing at that point.</quote> Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote> Lex Luthor already built a weaponized suit using Apokolips technology with all kinds of various colors of kryptonite crystals / lasers made through kryptonite radiation. Spoilers: you know how that ends</quote> </quote> Sounds like bad writing without the context. You have a super weapon with the guys only weakness being the focus of the weapon and for whatever reason it doesn't kill him? Nah. Iron Man also doesn't have the same faults as Lex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 3:24:46 PM #30:	Knowledge_King posted... Absolutely not. I've always known/said Superman would stomp Goku. I've been on this site, arguing that. Right. Those guys you listed aren't shit compared to Superman's bread and butter enemies. The only villain introduced in the MCU that Superman couldn't beat would be Dormammu. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925485063] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Knowledge_King posted... </cite> <quote>Absolutely not. I've always known/said Superman would stomp Goku. I've been on this site, arguing that.</quote> Right. Those guys you listed aren't shit compared to Superman's bread and butter enemies. The only villain introduced in the MCU that Superman couldn't beat would be Dormammu. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 3:30:40 PM #31:	Smashingpmkns posted... Sounds like bad writing without the context. You have a super weapon with the guys only weakness being the focus of the weapon and for whatever reason it doesn't kill him? Nah. Iron Man also doesn't have the same faults as Lex. The bad writing is the Kryptonite in the first place which is why DC has instructed their comic writers to stop fucking using it. Besides. Batman already did this song and dance several times including multiple absurd "time to plan" shenaningans and Batman ended up losing every time anyway. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925485288] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like bad writing without the context. You have a super weapon with the guys only weakness being the focus of the weapon and for whatever reason it doesn't kill him? Nah. Iron Man also doesn't have the same faults as Lex.</quote> The bad writing is the Kryptonite in the first place which is why DC has instructed their comic writers to stop fucking using it. Besides. Batman already did this song and dance several times including multiple absurd "time to plan" shenaningans and Batman ended up losing every time anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 08/01/19 3:32:36 PM #32:	Superman is in the MCU, her name is Carol Danvers... --- "Imagine a world where hypothetical situations didn't exist..." <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:925485365] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Superman is in the MCU, her name is Carol Danvers... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/01/19 3:43:11 PM #33:	Tyranthraxus posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Sounds like bad writing without the context. You have a super weapon with the guys only weakness being the focus of the weapon and for whatever reason it doesn't kill him? Nah. Iron Man also doesn't have the same faults as Lex. The bad writing is the Kryptonite in the first place which is why DC has instructed their comic writers to stop fucking using it. Besides. Batman already did this song and dance several times including multiple absurd "time to plan" shenaningans and Batman ended up losing every time anyway. So good writing is invincible superhero with no weaknesses outside of the occasional personal relationship? --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:925485804] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote> Sounds like bad writing without the context. You have a super weapon with the guys only weakness being the focus of the weapon and for whatever reason it doesn't kill him? Nah. Iron Man also doesn't have the same faults as Lex.</quote> The bad writing is the Kryptonite in the first place which is why DC has instructed their comic writers to stop fucking using it. Besides. Batman already did this song and dance several times including multiple absurd "time to plan" shenaningans and Batman ended up losing every time anyway. </quote> So good writing is invincible superhero with no weaknesses outside of the occasional personal relationship?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 3:46:33 PM #34:	Smashingpmkns posted... So good writing is invincible superhero with no weaknesses outside of the occasional personal relationship? I know that you know enough to know that Superman is not invincible even when Kryptonite is nowhere to be found. Just need something a little better than "Iron Man" to hurt him. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925485932] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>So good writing is invincible superhero with no weaknesses outside of the occasional personal relationship?</quote> I know that you know enough to know that Superman is not invincible even when Kryptonite is nowhere to be found. Just need something a little better than "Iron Man" to hurt him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/01/19 3:56:30 PM #35:	Tyranthraxus posted... Smashingpmkns posted... So good writing is invincible superhero with no weaknesses outside of the occasional personal relationship? I know that you know enough to know that Superman is not invincible even when Kryptonite is nowhere to be found. Just need something a little better than "Iron Man" to hurt him. He's damn near 100% invulnerable when kryptonite isn't around, or if he's not getting power from the sun. His invulnerability varies between writers tho. That's why most of his compelling stories don't revolve around him going brute force against another villain going brute force, because that shit is boring and the outcome is predictable. That's why these power arguments are bs. Of course Superman won when Lex tried to use a kryptonite suit against Superman. I havent read the comic but you put a synopsis "Lex fights Superman with kryptonite suit" and we already know the outcome. But if you take away his only weaknesses you're not going to just magically find a stronger hero because that's literally Superman's gimmick. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:925486368] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote> So good writing is invincible superhero with no weaknesses outside of the occasional personal relationship?</quote> I know that you know enough to know that Superman is not invincible even when Kryptonite is nowhere to be found. Just need something a little better than "Iron Man" to hurt him. </quote> He's damn near 100% invulnerable when kryptonite isn't around, or if he's not getting power from the sun. His invulnerability varies between writers tho. That's why most of his compelling stories don't revolve around him going brute force against another villain going brute force, because that shit is boring and the outcome is predictable. That's why these power arguments are bs. Of course Superman won when Lex tried to use a kryptonite suit against Superman. I havent read the comic but you put a synopsis "Lex fights Superman with kryptonite suit" and we already know the outcome. But if you take away his only weaknesses you're not going to just magically find a stronger hero because that's literally Superman's gimmick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maze_ 08/01/19 7:16:34 PM #39:	Smashingpmkns posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Smashingpmkns posted... If Tony Stark had kryptonite he would kill Superman in like 2 seconds. Right. Superman has never survived an encounter with kryptonite before. \_()_/ Iron Man would basically make a Hulk Buster suit capable of creating a kryptonite nuke blast. If Superman survives that it's literally just bad writing at that point. Yeah as I said, I'm pretty sure Stark and maybe even Shield could take down Superman if they planned too But the MCU villains (mostly) wouldn't have a chance --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925494719] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote> If Tony Stark had kryptonite he would kill Superman in like 2 seconds.</quote> Right. Superman has never survived an encounter with kryptonite before. \_()_/ </quote> Iron Man would basically make a Hulk Buster suit capable of creating a kryptonite nuke blast. If Superman survives that it's literally just bad writing at that point.</quote> Yeah as I said, I'm pretty sure Stark and maybe even Shield could take down Superman if they planned too But the MCU villains (mostly) wouldn't have a chance</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 08/01/19 8:02:43 PM #40:	Tyranthraxus posted... Maze_ posted... Loki turns up. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Ultron turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Thanos turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Hydra takes over sheild Superman hears them instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of everyone Guy with laser whips ...erm..whips people. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Pretty much the only movies he couldn't end instantly are Dr Strange , Thor 2 and maybe hed fall for Mysterio in Far From Home. This doesn't really happen in DC Comics so I'm not sure why you'd think it would happen in movies. hes working with a version of superman whos psychic and knows the future --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:925496498] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite> <quote>Loki turns up. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Ultron turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Thanos turns up Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Hydra takes over sheild Superman hears them instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of everyone Guy with laser whips ...erm..whips people. Superman hears him instantly, rushes there and beats the fuck out of him. Pretty much the only movies he couldn't end instantly are Dr Strange , Thor 2 and maybe hed fall for Mysterio in Far From Home.</quote>This doesn't really happen in DC Comics so I'm not sure why you'd think it would happen in movies. </quote> hes working with a version of superman whos psychic and knows the future</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/01/19 8:07:04 PM #41:	By pure power The Avengers could walk right up to all of them and beat them up too. But it's not really that simple is it? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:925496661] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>By pure power The Avengers could walk right up to all of them and beat them up too. But it's not really that simple is it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 08/01/19 8:07:21 PM #42:	Bryfang posted... -- If the fight kept going on, maybe Superman could've disarmed him long enough for a lucky shot. Or got a lucky shot in mid-fight. But either way, Hawkman doesn't tickle. Shots that hard with a kryptonite mace should've put Superman down for count, but he endured it. The guy is a tank, and still managed to seal the deal even after being severely weakened. well hawkman made the " didnt go for the head " mistake because he wanted superman to suffer he had enough time to crush his head before the others arrived --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:925496671] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Bryfang posted...</cite> <quote> -- If the fight kept going on, maybe Superman could've disarmed him long enough for a lucky shot. Or got a lucky shot in mid-fight. But either way, Hawkman doesn't tickle. Shots that hard with a kryptonite mace should've put Superman down for count, but he endured it. The guy is a tank, and still managed to seal the deal even after being severely weakened.</quote> well hawkman made the " didnt go for the head " mistake because he wanted superman to suffer he had enough time to crush his head before the others arrived</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 08/01/19 8:11:34 PM #43:	Darmik posted... By pure power The Avengers could walk right up to all of them and beat them up too. But it's not really that simple is it? Except it is None of the other Avengers have super hearing or super speed. In almost every MCU movie there is an extended part of the movie plot where the heroes don;t know where the villains are. Loki and Ultron couldn't hide from Superman. The second Loki started duffing that Shield Base Superman would be there before he even got to Clint --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925496839] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>By pure power The Avengers could walk right up to all of them and beat them up too. But it's not really that simple is it?</quote> Except it is None of the other Avengers have super hearing or super speed. In almost every MCU movie there is an extended part of the movie plot where the heroes don;t know where the villains are. Loki and Ultron couldn't hide from Superman. The second Loki started duffing that Shield Base Superman would be there before he even got to Clint</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 8:15:47 PM #44:	Maze_ posted... None of the other Avengers have super hearing or super speed. Dr. Strange is a multiverse-tier character. He's the kind of guy that would cause problems for Celestials. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925497010] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite> <quote>None of the other Avengers have super hearing or super speed.</quote>Dr. Strange is a multiverse-tier character. He's the kind of guy that would cause problems for Celestials. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/01/19 8:16:19 PM #45:	Maze_ posted... Darmik posted... By pure power The Avengers could walk right up to all of them and beat them up too. But it's not really that simple is it? Except it is None of the other Avengers have super hearing or super speed. In almost every MCU movie there is an extended part of the movie plot where the heroes don;t know where the villains are. Loki and Ultron couldn't hide from Superman. The second Loki started duffing that Shield Base Superman would be there before he even got to Clint I think you're really overestimating the capability of Superman's hearing. He can focus and listen to a lot of different stuff from a distance but it's not something that's always on and it doesn't mean that he knows every single thing that is happening in the planet at once. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:925497031] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>By pure power The Avengers could walk right up to all of them and beat them up too. But it's not really that simple is it?</quote> Except it is None of the other Avengers have super hearing or super speed. In almost every MCU movie there is an extended part of the movie plot where the heroes don;t know where the villains are. Loki and Ultron couldn't hide from Superman. The second Loki started duffing that Shield Base Superman would be there before he even got to Clint</quote> I think you're really overestimating the capability of Superman's hearing. He can focus and listen to a lot of different stuff from a distance but it's not something that's always on and it doesn't mean that he knows every single thing that is happening in the planet at once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 08/01/19 8:19:16 PM #46:	Maze_ posted... Darmik posted... By pure power The Avengers could walk right up to all of them and beat them up too. But it's not really that simple is it? Except it is None of the other Avengers have super hearing or super speed. In almost every MCU movie there is an extended part of the movie plot where the heroes don;t know where the villains are. Loki and Ultron couldn't hide from Superman. The second Loki started duffing that Shield Base Superman would be there before he even got to Clint but superman doesnt have the power to see the future --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:925497139] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>By pure power The Avengers could walk right up to all of them and beat them up too. But it's not really that simple is it?</quote> Except it is None of the other Avengers have super hearing or super speed. In almost every MCU movie there is an extended part of the movie plot where the heroes don;t know where the villains are. Loki and Ultron couldn't hide from Superman. The second Loki started duffing that Shield Base Superman would be there before he even got to Clint</quote> but superman doesnt have the power to see the future</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 08/01/19 8:20:08 PM #47:	Darmik posted... I think you're really overestimating the capability of Superman's hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkY0RXxmYNs" data-time="&start=70 --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925497169] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> I think you're really overestimating the capability of Superman's hearing</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkY0RXxmYNs" data-time="&start=70</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/01/19 8:23:51 PM #48:	Yeah he heard a massive explosion in Russia when he was a Russian agent in an alternate timeline. That's not comparable to knowing what every single villain is doing at once. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:925497301] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Yeah he heard a massive explosion in Russia when he was a Russian agent in an alternate timeline. That's not comparable to knowing what every single villain is doing at once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 08/01/19 8:27:47 PM #49:	Darmik posted... That's not comparable to knowing what every single villain is doing at once. Nobody said he would. But he heard a fire happening over 3,000 miles away, went to it and came back within 10 minutes. And you're saying he would not be able to hear Shield scrambling, panic, gunfire, explosions, literal buildings collasping and helicopters falling out of the air because.....? Remember what happened when Hulk got his mitts on Loki? If Superman was there during the Avengers, that would have happened in the Pegasus base before Clint even got mind-controlled --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925497448] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> That's not comparable to knowing what every single villain is doing at once.</quote> Nobody said he would. But he heard a fire happening over 3,000 miles away, went to it and came back within 10 minutes. And you're saying he would not be able to hear Shield scrambling, panic, gunfire, explosions, literal buildings collasping and helicopters falling out of the air because.....? Remember what happened when Hulk got his mitts on Loki? If Superman was there during the Avengers, that would have happened in the Pegasus base before Clint even got mind-controlled</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/01/19 8:29:33 PM #50:	Darmik posted... Yeah he heard a massive explosion in Russia when he was a Russian agent in an alternate timeline. That's not comparable to knowing what every single villain is doing at once. Power Girl once said she can hear grass growing 10 miles away. But that's kind of irrelevant. His hearing doesn't work like that unless he's actively listening. So yeah if he was just chilling in the sky looking for problems to solve he could hear everything at once but if he's not specifically using his hearing he's only going to pick up on some key things that he's expecting like Jimmy Olsen's watch. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925497515] in Just think... [t:77904788]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah he heard a massive explosion in Russia when he was a Russian agent in an alternate timeline. That's not comparable to knowing what every single villain is doing at once.</quote>Power Girl once said she can hear grass growing 10 miles away. But that's kind of irrelevant. His hearing doesn't work like that unless he's actively listening. So yeah if he was just chilling in the sky looking for problems to solve he could hear everything at once but if he's not specifically using his hearing he's only going to pick up on some key things that he's expecting like Jimmy Olsen's watch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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