Board 8 > 428 Shibuya Scramble Playthrough Topic

(+) Yeah! (+)

Also poor Chiaki =( talking to people is hard. she's trying her best! ^_^

Minorikawa is indeed the best

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Dels posted...

I don't really share Mana's belief that this game is going to go off the rails, I think the timeline and choices are just a gimmick to keep things interesting and keep you jumping around. But. Maybe. The ending of Achi's plot is the most ?????, the whole "Trust me, it's better for you if we kill her" thing is almost like... time-travel-y...

My theory: The guy with the cane is the person sending Ozawa messages, and that Hitomi (or Maria?) was injected with the virus sometime earlier and she needs to die soon before she becomes infectious and takes out Shibuya. Or like Maria is suicidal but also wants everyone to suffer and injected herself and switched with Hitomi and that's why it's an international incident but doesn't explain the people handling the case. And somehow, Burning Hammer ends up being the cure or a good release for the antiviral?? I have no idea anymore.
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I dunno. If it was that important to kill Hitomi, I feel they could have more people on it? Right now it's just, like... one dude with a cane...

But if the dude with the cane is time travelling, that would explain it a bit more I guess. The dude with the cane also always knows exactly where they've gone, even without a tracking device... Is cane dude... Achi from the future?! Trying to save himself?!

...I won't put any money on any of that...

And also, (13:00-14:00), the Kano/Tariq scenes also imply time travel! How can Tariq be arrested and being returned to the station by, uh, disguise-cop whose name I can't accurately recall, while also being free 5 minutes later?! He must be time traveling.

All the people in black (and cane man) must be time travelers...

...I don't know how confident I am about this...

Here's my thing though: We've never seen Tateno (dick advice mentor cop)'s face in any shots, right? And he is "missing"... Maybe Tateno is the cane man? Is the cane man Japanese, I can't remember, I didn't think he was a foreigner. If he's clearly a foreigner then nvm.

but I love the idea of burning hammer being a cure for the virus and I hope that happens lol

Also damn Ai is awful

Don't think I didn't notice that Ai made Minorikawa's bug detector go off, and then the next hour when Osawa's went off in the car, it was right as Ai returned home.

Then it went off in his room and Kujiwara said it was broken but... maybe it was working, and Kujiwara was just pretending.

i literally just finished 13-14 just now so count me in on this topic

cane man has to be tateno at this point is all I can assume, but theres still no real proof
kujiwara is my 2nd favorite character so far, you know hes got to be up to something lol
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Dels posted...

but I love the idea of burning hammer being a cure for the virus and I hope that happens lol

oh god i never thought of that lmao please dont
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tanos ending on this one is wild
definitely got me hype for 14-15 but i dont think i can play tomorrow so ill catch back up here thursday
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I think what Kujiwara is "hiding" is that he's just actually a really good cop. I'm not sure I think he's hiding any sinister motives. He just actually knows what he's doing.

tfw when the sales demo is a bust but its not even a bad ending lol

so if we're already being charged the full price of the cat costume, isn't now a good time to cut it open???? =/ what excuse will there be this time...?

who is Tama?

options include... Maria... (or Hitomi)... Aya Kamiki, the pop star... Kano's fiancee's twin celebrity sister...

ahhhhhh!! minorikawa's laptop broke but that's not a bad end either?!

Dels posted...

I think what Kujiwara is "hiding" is that he's just actually a really good cop. I'm not sure I think he's hiding any sinister motives. He just actually knows what he's doing.

Matsuda! I was gonna say Maes Hughes, but that's our costuming partner.

Thoughts as I go through 13-14:

- Black Lodge. Ffff...

- The Detective needs to check the bodies. Otherwise everyone goes to the Golden Land.

- These puzzles are definitely getting more difficult. A lot more long-form paths where you're not sure if you've taken the correct one. That whole Burning Hammer demo failure? I did not expect that to lead to more things and almost retreated to see if I could get there before Chiri drank all the orange juice. Then there's phone call choices and cooking choices and it's getting subtly complex. It's really fun, but getting a bit lost trying to figure it all out.

- Achi's sister need s a heart transplant?! Oh god, there might be organ harvesting O_o...

- So... New guess! Hitomi is Maria. Maria and Tanaka are organ harvesting, and setting up Ozawa to take the fall for everything happening at his work, maybe for Tanaka to swoop in and be the boss.
I mean, Twin Peaks connections regarding drugs in the case of Laura Palmer and One Eyed Jack's wouldn't be far off from 'innocent' Hitomi being into deep dark stuff...

- I like how Ozawa's story so far is just Kujiwara managing to get Ozawa to do basic chores like unclogging the toilet, using a microwave, and doing dishes.

- Yanagi... He's Larry Butz. With Lotta Hart's hair. And Mike Meekins jaw & neck & frazzled animations.

- Damn, Yanagi in Minorikawa's story is making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Did not expect to end up liking him as much as I am, especially only an hour or so after how much of a joke he was. He really is the Butz.

- Wonder if there's a way to see more of Tama's story after taking the cat costume off? Get a Keep Out I can't get past and I wanna see her trying to buy the necklace without the guy letting her because she wasn't the cat he promised it to!

Managed to get all the Bad Ends this chapter! And none of them were the one I wanted to see ;_;

Kano's story this episode felt a lot like that one episode of 24 Season 1 where Jack hears where his daughter is and is just showing driving on the highway for the majority of the hour.

13:00-14:00 Rankings
Tama > Minorikawa > Achi > Ozawa > Kano

27 Bad Ends
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I had 18 bad ends at the end of 12:00-13:00 btw

Will finish 13:00-14:00 tonight prob

huh

i never knew there were blood types other than those standard letters

video games are educational!

since this game is all about coincidences, i'm sure some other character will have her exact blood type

The first thing I did after that chapter was google Bombay blood. It is indeed a real thing!
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oh shit, tanaka's bugged

=/ achi has a "cat" jump to the time when tama has a "keep out" right as she takes the cat head off, but it just takes you 2 screens before the keep out. what a tease.

omg

that wasn't a tease

it was put in there specifically to make sure the player gets "at this time, tama is currently taking her head off somewhere else" so who's in the suit?!

omg lmao

creepy bloody cat suit is hilariously terrifying

thank god i got that bad end haha. honestly maybe i *should* be more focused on gathering bad ends because they're hilarious. but it's kinda too much trouble i think.

i guess this is where things start to get difficult like you said. i've got to be continued's for 2 of the 3, but bad ends for kano (interrogation) and achi, and tama is stuck at keep out and idk where to jump from

time travel theory denied. tariq got out because tateno is officially a "traitor". oh well.

Canaan, huh? What's that?

i guess i have to find some way to jump to tama, probably with some choice that seems inconsequential? either that or i'm dumb and missing something

urgh. can't figure it out.

lmao the bad ending of osawa going crazy from the bug tracker if kajiwara doesn't tell him its broken

but i'm still nowhere closer to figuring out how to jump to tama, and starting to get a bit annoyed

hints are fine if anyone's awake and reading

What time is Tama's Keep Out?

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13:40

Looks like you jump from Achi at 13:50

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I got stuck at this exact jump and had to look it up. I think I remember it being as simple as there being another jump from Achi to Tama in the same block and you're not realizing it's a different jump, but I could be mistaking this with a different part I got stuck at.
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I did that jump though? It's the one I mentioned before - it takes me 2 screens before the "keep out", but doesn't actually remove it.

I'll try it again?

Oh. A different jump, huh?

Um, okay, let me see.

Nope, still not working.

Achi's jump at 13:50 from the word "cat" doesn't work... I don't see any other jump to Tama there.

Oh, I guess maybe the jump doesn't work if you chose to take the cat head off

Yeah, that was it. I didn't realize you could reach a Keep Out despite making a "wrong" choice, and that the jump would then take you to the block but without cutting it open

Thanks for helping

more canaan, huh?

13:00-14:00 complete and open for discussion without spoiler bars

and of course, tama is maria. gasp. shock. this must be a big surprise to people who haven't already experienced enough stories in this vein to not be able to see these twists coming. but the real question is, is this really maria, or is it actually hitomi

Dels posted...

more canaan, huh?

13:00-14:00 complete and open for discussion without spoiler bars

and of course, tama is maria. gasp. shock. this must be a big surprise to people who haven't already experienced enough stories in this vein to not be able to see these twists coming. but the real question is, is this really maria, or is it actually hitomi

It wasn't much of a surprise, but the video reveal was very cool. And yeah, that Keep Out bugged me. I mean, I chose to keep it on so I got to the TBC screen first, but if the little Steam Achievement didn't pop up, I'd have been playing for another hour or two trying to get Maria to the knicknack shop without her costume on. Thank you, Steam, for saving my sanity from turning into Ozawa looking for bugs.

Speaking of bugs, did you see the restaurant Bad End Minorikawa had last hour? Seems like Ai is bugged as well. I like how a good portion of the bad ends give hints or clues to stuff to come, or great character moments. Like Kano calling Kujiwara.

Really enjoying it so far, and the cast and casting are great.
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Mega Mana posted...

Dels posted...

more canaan, huh?

13:00-14:00 complete and open for discussion without spoiler bars

and of course, tama is maria. gasp. shock. this must be a big surprise to people who haven't already experienced enough stories in this vein to not be able to see these twists coming. but the real question is, is this really maria, or is it actually hitomi

It wasn't much of a surprise, but the video reveal was very cool. And yeah, that Keep Out bugged me. I mean, I chose to keep it on so I got to the TBC screen first, but if the little Steam Achievement didn't pop up, I'd have been playing for another hour or two trying to get Maria to the knicknack shop without her costume on. Thank you, Steam, for saving my sanity from turning into Ozawa looking for bugs.

Speaking of bugs, did you see the restaurant Bad End Minorikawa had last hour? Seems like Ai is bugged as well. I like how a good portion of the bad ends give hints or clues to stuff to come, or great character moments. Like Kano calling Kujiwara.

Really enjoying it so far, and the cast and casting are great.

Yeah because of that bad end my current theory is that Ai and Tanaka were set up for Ozawa by the CEO to keep him under control and he actually has nobody that's actually close to him.

Kind of an easy one but I'm sure they'll go crazy with it
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Also, I'd assume that Tama is actually Maria since they've referenced that Maria is outgoing which is more fitting with winning street fights and that Hitomi is shy and reserved which seems pretty accurate up til this point.

Anyway I'm definitely doing 14-15 after work today, the story is getting pretty good so can't wait
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Well, remember, if "Hitomi" is actually Maria, then she's somehow in on it and pretending to be shy-er than she is.

But I'm not sure how outgoing "Maria" is. I mean, she wins a street fight, sure, but she's pretty hesitant about the whole thing. Of course, it could just be the amnesia, but Tama was never super outgoing. Not super shy either though.

But the fact that Hitomi gets genuinely happy when she texts Tanaka makes it seem that she's not just acting right now... Would be a weird thing to fake.

1400-1500 spoilers

Agh. Going through Maria and achis routes first, as one does. This has been so frustrating dealing with the constant twin swapping, and achis inability to pick up on it. Though they are oddly self contained, I managed to completely clear Maria and I'm already halfway done with achi and haven't needed to progress any other routes yet. Ive also only gotten 2 bad endings so far, the game seems a little easier in this part then the last hour
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Also I meant that cane man is tateno, not tanaka
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wow, pretty crazy start to 14:00-15:00

i just happened to start with kano, got the "keep out" before the name of the condo owner is revealed, then happened to do osawa next (usually i've left him for last) and got the jump to learn it's tanaka

i'm surprised, even with the bug cliffhanger i didn't assume he'd be bad!

so stanley thinks hitomi was somehow carrying the antiviral...

if maria is really hitomi... then could the antiviral... be in the necklace?! and she somehow lost it?

lol... i'll shut up now...