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what even...

how do i get out of this?!

bad ends for both achi and kano

hm. gotta try some other options, i suppose

gosh, i'm not seeing anything. i tried the other dialogue options at the scramble for achi and kano, but nothing.

could it be i need to do something before we leave?

surely nothing in minorikawa's story is needed...?

i'm fine with a hint here if someone would like to help

What time is your bad end?

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urkh. i tried another answer with stanley earlier and THAT gives me a jump to stanley as well, at 18:00, but even that one is X'd out!

guess i'll keep trying every wrong answer...

i feel like what i need is a jump to canaan...?

Try seeing if you can jump from Kano 18:10

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they're at 19:05 for both achi and kano

minorikawa reached END

LordoftheMorons posted...

Try seeing if you can jump from Kano 18:10

Nice. Thanks.

I see. You need to give Tateno a proper goodbye to switch to him. Very interesting.

I feel that was sort of unintuitive, but it sort of makes sense.

Also:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PoV Tateno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HYPE

ahhhhhh, he's on the character select screen with a cool turn-around animation and everything!!!!

aww, kuze's a good guy after all <3

i just don't want this game to end, that's all. i don't want this to be the final chapter. but it probably is.

omg, kajiwara ;-;

Dels posted...

i just don't want this game to end, that's all. i don't want this to be the final chapter. but it probably is.

not gonna confirm/deny what the final chapter is, but I will say there's quite a bit of postgame bonus content, so you have that to look forward to at least~

Some of it is kinda obscure to unlock, but there is a steam guide that covers everything afaik (it's in Chinese, but google translate works well enough ime, plus some of the relevant info is already listed in English to begin with)
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Stanley thinks there's way more going on here.

And that something is still fishy about "Alphard"...

I hope so...

god, stanley thinks alphard purposefully got the wrong sister kidnapped?!

geez...

kano can tell from palmer's eyes that he's never risked his life before

doesn't sound like the real alphard to me...

this chapter is insaaaaaaaane!!!!!

....?!?!?!?!?!

Canaan is Alphard?!

No. Wait.

That's not right.

Didn't we see Canaan in Maria's flashbacks?

...Did we...?

holy shit, i never noticed we never saw canaan's face in maria's flashbacks

Maria also hasn't seen Canaan...!

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this doesn't make her any less realistic. now not only is she a 16 year old expert assassin operative of lockpicking, but ALSO the leader of a worldwide organ trafficking and drug cartel?

LordoftheMorons posted...

Maria also hasn't seen Canaan...!

oh shit. is that why maria passed out? canaan covertly knocked her out so that maria couldn't say "wait, who are you?"

god, this chapter was a dead end just an hour ago, now its got so many interweaving branches i can't keep track of it

Zyxyz0 posted...

Dels posted...

i just don't want this game to end, that's all. i don't want this to be the final chapter. but it probably is.

not gonna confirm/deny what the final chapter is, but I will say there's quite a bit of postgame bonus content, so you have that to look forward to at least~

Some of it is kinda obscure to unlock, but there is a steam guide that covers everything afaik (it's in Chinese, but google translate works well enough ime, plus some of the relevant info is already listed in English to begin with)

There's a good PSN guide that I've seen that details all the bad endings and bonus content. I'll post it later when I'm not at work
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not sure i can keep going. might need to rest a bit.

no hints for bad ends is gonna be tough as well, i've been over-relying on them.

mostly because jumping around picking every dialogue option hoping for something to change is pretty annoying with the lack of text skip, tbh

but yeah, Canaan being Alphard is a) much more terrifying and b) much more surprising. I hadn't really considered it at all. Granted, I was blinded by the fact that she was already such an unrealistic character, but I really got the sense we were meant to think she was cool and just accept her and trust her. Well done though, I got fooled. Should've realized we never saw her face in those flashbacks.

I really have no idea what's going to happen

Sure, maybe we just take down the bad guys and save Maria, but... hm.

O_O

Wow, two whole new pages since I went to bed! Guess I've got some playing to do, lol
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17:00-18:00

- Osawa begins.
- Heavy stuff, we can't save Maria, Kujiwara figured out Ai's and Tanaka's relationship, it's all pretty dour to start... then a whole bunch of bananas from his pocket. An entire bunch. From his pocket. I love Kajiwara.
- 'Just like me' Kajiwara tab. Fun doppelganger anecdote!
- Yes, I, too, want to Keep Out from the conversation Osawa and Ai will have.

- Is it it me or are the two debt collectors the worst actors of the entire cast. The Hawaiian shirt guy just looks so stupidly goofy, and not in an over-the-top Yanagi sort of way. He's just like, "This is my bad guy scowl" and Orange Cassidys the effort.
- Did like getting all the S.O.S. info from Segawa though.
- ...And then he goes back to his stupid mean mugging when Toyama calls. He looks constipated.
- XD, psychic Minorikawa!
- ANOTHER new guy?? 'Newly assigned'? Hmm...
- "Do you know when and where it was?" ...Ooh, damn. A clue! I do remember someone saying it a long while back, but with no frame of reference, I'm not going to go exploring right now. Even thought I wrote it out in a post once, but I guess I didn't. Hmmm..... ....where have I heard that before....
- Chiaki being timid helped! =D
- The poor waitress. I love her over-the-shoulder exasperation shots.

- !!! The subway! He was on the phone! Kano and Sasayama! But who was phone?
- *goes back to 11:35* Same attache case as suspect, who he stood right next to. 225 (Kidnapping) pages.
- *scrolls through the 11:35s* Daisuke Endo is busy before Minorikawa gets there. Watching monitors and communicating with Tateno most likely. Then he gets a call, and tells Minorikawa about the defective dry ice machine... and yet it's after 5pm now and there's been nothing in hours regarding dry ice machine. Could he have been making that up on the spot? 'I'll try and get a hold of the customer, then.' Maybe... the printer talked with the case carrier and learned that Hitomi wasn't in custody and relayed to Daisuke? But Daisuke would know with cameras? Something is fishy, but let's check out other 11:35s. Though, going back to the screen, the dry ice call was after 11:45.
- That's the only place I see the call could be going to if directly referenced in sotry at the time. Ozawa was reading e-mails, Tama was waiting for Burning Hammer time, and Achi was meeting KnickKnack man and then Soba lady.

- Back to business.
- ...Oh my god. Chiaki's laptop. The lace.
- Marsh gas? Hmm, that would be methane?
- This frank discussion between Osawa and Ai...
- Guessing... Ai's birthday is the password if it's a number.
- I cannot wait for the moment ten-year-old Hana smiles. It's going to be great.
- To be continued?!?! There's go to be a way to get him a taxi!!
- *goes back, tries Noodle House* ...BWUH?! Bad End #64?!?! So, wait... whattt? Last hour ended at #63, and it's gone Kano-Achi-Maria-Minorikawa-Osawa. Does mean that Kano and Achi have no Bad Ends this chapter???
O_O
O_O
- *gets trophy for finding all bad ends for chapter... after one bad end* WHAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!!?

TO BE CONTINUED
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- Achi has an interesting typo right away. Under 'Brain-dead,' '...there are two conditions for declaring breath death.'
- The likelihood of failure could be part of the plan...? I KNOW WHO ALPHARD IS!

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- Stanley says they should've turned Hitomi over to police knowing full well Tateno is a rogue agent?
- Achi's flashback... Dick Dictum #1. "Never lose sight of what you're supposed to protect. Ever." ...Kotone.
- Achi the best.
- MARIA!!! Wait, she was in the sto- oh, right, at the beginning. Durr.
- ORGAN TRAFFICKING. Dick Dictum #89, "The more irrelevant something seems, the more relevant it's bound to be."
- ACHI THE BEST
- Canaan to the rescue!

- Canaan to the rescue!
- Hitomi's blood... Alphard... whew, this plan IS insanely good and flawed.
- Alphard didn't use Tanaka... Tanaka would've been the sure thing. Is Alphard Ai?
- God. Canaan is so tall, and yet so baby-faced. Reminds me of when I tried watching the 80s Degrassi, and one of the characters was almost a complete adult at like 14 in size, hands, and everything except she had the face of a six-year-old and it was really awkward.
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- "So you're a martial-arts badass but your specialty is lock-breaking?" ACHI THE BESTEST
- A seven o'clock deadline, hum? You don't say.

- "Wait for me, Maria. This time, I'm going to come for you."
- END OF OSAWA

...18:00 to 20:00?!?!?!?!?! Ooooh
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Breaktime.
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Mega Mana posted...

- Is it it me or are the two debt collectors the worst actors of the entire cast. The Hawaiian shirt guy just looks so stupidly goofy, and not in an over-the-top Yanagi sort of way. He's just like, "This is my bad guy scowl" and Orange Cassidys the effort.

They definitely play into the over-the-top cheesiness more than many, but I think they're great.

- !!! The subway! He was on the phone! Kano and Sasayama! But who was phone?

Wait, what? What am I missing?

WAIT. Was the printer guy the one on the phone earlier?! on the subway?!

OHHHHHH.

Oohhhhhh.

But does it mean anything? Did we decide that guy was a bad guy? Or was it all a coincidence?

Does mean that Kano and Achi have no Bad Ends this chapter???
O_O
O_O
- *gets trophy for finding all bad ends for chapter... after one bad end* WHAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!!?

lol. i guess so. kano and achi just proceed through the endo electronics thing with no hitches possible from the dialogue options, osawa doesn't get in any trouble spots, and... yeah. i guess they felt they needed one bad end in the chapter though so they put in minorikawa's and went wild with it lol

Mega Mana posted...

- Achi has an interesting typo right away. Under 'Brain-dead,' '...there are two conditions for declaring breath death.'

I noticed that as well. lol

- The likelihood of failure could be part of the plan...? I KNOW WHO ALPHARD IS!

I know right?

- "Wait for me, Maria. This time, I'm going to come for you."
- END OF OSAWA

<3 ;-;

Dels posted...

but we're kind of past that trope now in 2019

This game (well, the first version on the Wii) was made in 2008.
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oh wow!

i had no idea.

i'll have to check that out later, but can't really google it right now for fear of spoilers

anyway, here's that guide I was talking about.

https://www.playstationtrophies.org/game/428-shibuya-scramble-ps4/guide/

this guide wasn't written at the time of my play through so I didn't use it, but it looks significantly very in-depth for each ending choice (the one I used was not very good at doing this).
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Yeah thats the one I used

I still need to do some of the postgame stuff... (being vague just in case) I got bored with the animated postgame section and stopped playing. Need to power through that so I can do the rest of it.

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i just beat it
the story was sooooooo good
it seems like it was setup for a sequel but...nothing came...
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_stingers_ posted...

i just beat it
the story was sooooooo good
it seems like it was setup for a sequel but...nothing came...

Canaan, Maria and Alphard appear in the anime Canaan, set two years after 428. That's the only sequel that seems to have come out, unfortunately.
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Jesus Christ heartbeat of spring has to be the saddest thing I've ever read in my life this game is insane
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Arti posted...

_stingers_ posted...

i just beat it
the story was sooooooo good
it seems like it was setup for a sequel but...nothing came...

Canaan, Maria and Alphard appear in the anime Canaan, set two years after 428. That's the only sequel that seems to have come out, unfortunately.

Wait, what?

I watched that show like, 10 years ago. And I've forgotten all of it. I absolutely need to rewatch it now, damn
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18:00 - 20:00

- We have Minorikawa one hour from deadline and Chiaki with a skinned knee; Achi and Kano dealing with Maria's collapse, Hitomi's blood, Daisuke's desperation, and Stanley and Canaan; and we have Maria passed out and Osawa heading to the lab. Definitely feels like finale apporaches, especially as night is setting in.

- KIMIZUKA! The first of many choices!!!
- "Breaking my watch will not stop time." I am now reading Katayama's voice as Enoch's from Agents of SHIELD.
- OH MY GOD! IT WASN'T A RUSE (probably)! THE DRY ICE MACHINE REALLY DID BREAKDOWN!

- Woo! I did it! I beat the game! ...Oh yeah, story time. No more labyrinth.
- Woo! And I got Methane right!
- Ooh, if Minorikawa is the catalyst for Susumu truly becoming Achi's successor... that would be awesome!
- "You son of a bitch." Oh my god, Susumu is really (Danganronpa) Mondo Owada, second leader of the toughest gang around who is insecure about living up to is mentor's reputation.
- Kikizuma?!
- Forgiveness, and trust. People gravitate towards somebody who can handle things when they gets tough.
- Daaaamn. I got goosebumps from that End. <3 Minorikawa. Especially with Achi's theme playing.
- The interviews aren't over until you have what you need.

- To Kano!
- TATENO!

- Heh, didn't expect Rumi and her dad right there.
- Achi looking pale? I bet his leg is much worse than anyone knows.
- A tall white man.... omg omg... LELAND PALMER?! I forgot all about him. He must be Alphard!

- DICK DICTUM #1!
- And I'm so glad they really are Dick Dictums. I was afraid I got the term wrong and was being foolish.
- *glances down at earlier notes* Huh. Lelad Palmer, Log Lady. We haven't really had any Twin Peaks references in a long time. Kind of wish the S.O.S. crew met at One Eyed Jack's or something.
- O_O
- O_O
- O_O
- WE'RE GONNA HAVE A JUMP TO STANLEY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Dels gets his wish of new protags!
- When did Achi lose the Ecomonster on his shirt?
- YUP! LELAND PALMER! I KNEW IT! I hope I called it in text early on. I really do.
- Whoa, first bad end comes after 7:00. And by first, I mean first. #65. Last hour ended on #64. And Minorikawa's labyrinth ended at 79... so there are a LOT of bad ends this hour. Yesss!

- Hmm.... how do I unlock Stanley...
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It took me way too long to unlock stanley. Lol
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When did Achi lose the Ecomonster on his shirt?

I noticed this as well. It's been a while. I can't remember if he ever changed shirts or if there was actually a wardrobe mistake during filming.

- *cheats and looks at Dels' earlier struggles to get in touch with Stanley. Never even thought of Tateno. Isn't ashamed.* I just Jumped to Dels' POV is all.
- XD, the noise of Kuze's voice matched with Canaan's startled head tilt. XD
- KAJIWARA ;_;
- Oh god, he's going to die. He's not going to make it. He can't heal himself. He left all his bananas at Osawa's!

- And now, Stanley.
- Heck, if we had something as simple as dry ice, huh? Hmm...
- YESSSS!!!!!!
- Jack Stanley's superior in the CIA is GORDON!!!

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- Also happily imagining Stanley's boss is just YELLING INTO THE PHONE AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS IN A VERY CASUAL CONVERSATIONAL MANNER.
- Oh, I see why Tateno had to come first. Kano's salute pic.
- Stanley's mind working on this is excellent. Maria's kidnapping was not an accident.
- And with Gordon as Gordon, Stanley is suddenly Coop, and this monologue is being told to Diane.
- What's the photograph? It's of Stanley, isn't it?
- Huh? Where did that other Jump go? Wait, what happened to the Bad Ends?! What did I do right???
- But seriously. A bomb went off. But then I got Tateno closer to the lab and Jack exploring the storeroom, and now everything is fine? What happened to the bomb?
- Ah, Kano. No longer The Zeppo. He likes the quiet. </Buffy reference>
- Oh god, The Zeppo has a Zippo!
- Every time now that we're getting these slow words on black background, I'm expecting an END to pop up.
- Oh, there's still a bomb! Triggered by a cellphone? Who is cell phone?
- If one of the bad ends comes after nearly everything is complete, both twins are saved, and everyone is about to ride off into the night together, Aya Kamiki decides to break out into a celebratory song and triggers the bomb by her voice, I will piss myself laughing hysterically.

- Oh, not Stanley. Maria & Canaan, 7/30. Wait, what's today?
- Wait, who's that girl??
- WAIT, CANAAN IS ALPHARD?!~!?! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?>?!?!?!?!@>!?>
- I'm loving how the bomb keeps going off and we get like an extra five minutes to get some info, and then we jump back to thirty-plus minutes ago to see how that information translates to Stanley's and Tateno's own perspectives from our ends. Really makes sense why it's 18:00 to 20:00.

O_O

O_O

So, a random power dip happened. Everything shut down. Started to write a post about how everything was lost and I'd do a tl;dr of how Stanley's boss was Gordon Cole, surprise at Canaan, and mention that I referenced Buffy too much, but... it's still there!

Well, I need a break for a bit. May or may not get called into work in two hours, and subsequently if not, may or may not go out to a friend's birthday party.
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achi, lying down dying after the explosion: yesssss! :D i was right about the cell phone not being the bomb!!!! woohoooooo!!!!! :D :D :D

you know, the only difference between this game and 24

is that no one has actually died in this game

sasayama got hospitalized but that's about the extent of it

i wonder if there'll be any deaths at all

when you look at the way all the plot threads get tied up and every character gets a redemption/forgiveness arc, it feels like this game is actually more in the cheesy "everyone gets a happy ending through the power of love" style, so maybe no one will die =P

how to break kano's keep out at 19:05? the one after meeting kuze and he inner monologues about how much he's learned today

edit: nvm got it