Board 8 > Have you signed up to be an organ donor?

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CedarPointcp
08/12/19 8:49:34 PM
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have you? - Results (12 votes)
yes
58.33% (7 votes)
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no
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Nrrr
08/12/19 8:53:44 PM
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Yes, because I plan to posess the man who receives my organs through witchcraft

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Uglyface2
08/12/19 9:57:53 PM
#3:


No. Litany of reasons, the least selfish being that I don't want people getting damaged goods. I haven't had a very healthy life.
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VintageGin
08/12/19 10:10:08 PM
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I own a motorcycle. It's expected of me.
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Cavedweller2000
08/13/19 1:40:07 PM
#5:


I'm from a country (Wales) that automatically opts you in unless you opt out.

The rest of the UK will be joining that scheme shortly.
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Ngamer64
08/13/19 1:49:03 PM
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Yes, and everyone should sign up- trust me, you're not going to be needing them afterwards!


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NFUN
08/13/19 2:07:07 PM
#7:


Ngamer64 posted...
Yes, and everyone should sign up- trust me, you're not going to be needing them afterwards!


Fuck you, buddy. I'm gonna need all of the organs I can get in the afterlife. I hope Osiris will be pleased by my offerings
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Nanis23
08/13/19 2:07:41 PM
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No
I am not going to die anytime soon

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NFUN
08/13/19 2:24:03 PM
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and also the doctors can check to see which organs are viable. they're not gonna blindly toss a cirrhosed liver in somebody without looking at it
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NFUN
08/13/19 2:51:00 PM
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yeah they dont deserve to live
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Mac Arrowny
08/13/19 3:07:34 PM
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metaIslug posted...
I've not done that. I have potential issue with who it would go to. If it's some old guy/hag, I'd be mad


How do you feel about the opposite? Would you like to receive an organ donation when you're old and sick and can recover completely by getting one?
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 3:21:57 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
metaIslug posted...
I've not done that. I have potential issue with who it would go to. If it's some old guy/hag, I'd be mad


How do you feel about the opposite? Would you like to receive an organ donation when you're old and sick and can recover completely by getting one?

Personally, I'd rather the organ go to someone young. If I am 65 and a 25 year old needed an organ I'd rather it go to the 25 year old.
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banananor
08/13/19 3:43:01 PM
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Huh. I guess I do have the little heart on my driver's license. I don't remember going out of my way to get it, so I must've just checked a box or something

it's more likely I just didn't specifically fill in the "I do NOT want to be an organ donor >:0" area, if I remember how these things work
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Mac Arrowny
08/13/19 3:45:52 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
metaIslug posted...
I've not done that. I have potential issue with who it would go to. If it's some old guy/hag, I'd be mad


How do you feel about the opposite? Would you like to receive an organ donation when you're old and sick and can recover completely by getting one?

Personally, I'd rather the organ go to someone young. If I am 65 and a 25 year old needed an organ I'd rather it go to the 25 year old.


Sure, that's fair. But if we had enough organ donors, there'd be no need to choose. Both you and the 25 year old could get transplants.
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NFUN
08/13/19 3:46:56 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
metaIslug posted...
I've not done that. I have potential issue with who it would go to. If it's some old guy/hag, I'd be mad


How do you feel about the opposite? Would you like to receive an organ donation when you're old and sick and can recover completely by getting one?

Personally, I'd rather the organ go to someone young. If I am 65 and a 25 year old needed an organ I'd rather it go to the 25 year old.

and the people who manage the logistics of organ donations agree. the whole system is one of triage as organs to transplant are scarce. it's a whole system designed so that the people who in meaningful ways are "most deserving" (have been on the list longest, age, have shown they won't continue behaviors that damaged their organs in the first place, etc) will be the ones to get it first
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banananor
08/13/19 4:01:51 PM
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Okay, I assume no one here is intentionally not becoming a donor because of a triage system they haven't even researched
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 4:04:47 PM
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banananor posted...
Okay, I assume no one here is intentionally not becoming a donor because of a triage system they haven't even researched

2 people ITT have said that much already.

The fact is there's really no reason to not be a donor for any medical reason at all. If you just don't want to help people in general, which necessarily includes maybe helping some nazi rapist, then that's fine but also completely illogical and statistically stupid.
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Mac Arrowny
08/13/19 4:25:03 PM
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metaIslug posted...
I know young people come first. I'm arguing old people should come never. Sorry if that triggers anyone here.


So if there were enough organ donors that there were a surplus of organs to transplant, you'd rather see those organs get thrown in the garbage rather than being transplanted into an older person who needs them?
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NFUN
08/13/19 4:32:15 PM
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I'm not triggered. You're just a dick
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 4:38:20 PM
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metaIslug posted...
I know young people come first. I'm arguing old people should come never. Sorry if that triggers anyone here.

And now the backpedaling starts. Let's see where he ends up.
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ZenOfThunder
08/13/19 4:40:09 PM
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falling back on "TRIGGERED" like it's some argument-ending word is really lame
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neonreaper
08/13/19 4:43:28 PM
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Dude what
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NFUN
08/13/19 4:43:44 PM
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neonreaper
08/13/19 4:45:28 PM
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How long do you think they can preserve organs for?
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Xuxon
08/13/19 4:51:27 PM
#31:


foolm0r0n posted...
banananor posted...
Okay, I assume no one here is intentionally not becoming a donor because of a triage system they haven't even researched

2 people ITT have said that much already.

The fact is there's really no reason to not be a donor for any medical reason at all. If you just don't want to help people in general, which necessarily includes maybe helping some nazi rapist, then that's fine but also completely illogical and statistically stupid.

the one potentially good reason i've heard is that if you are an organ donor and end up sick yourself, a doctor/hospital can then be faced with a choice of "save this one person" or "let this person die and save several others with their organs." personally i see it as an extremely small risk that's worth taking but i could understand people being paranoid about that.
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NFUN
08/13/19 4:56:46 PM
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Xuxon posted...
foolm0r0n posted...
banananor posted...
Okay, I assume no one here is intentionally not becoming a donor because of a triage system they haven't even researched

2 people ITT have said that much already.

The fact is there's really no reason to not be a donor for any medical reason at all. If you just don't want to help people in general, which necessarily includes maybe helping some nazi rapist, then that's fine but also completely illogical and statistically stupid.

the one potentially good reason i've heard is that if you are an organ donor and end up sick yourself, a doctor/hospital can then be faced with a choice of "save this one person" or "let this person die and save several others with their organs." personally i see it as an extremely small risk that's worth taking but i could understand people being paranoid about that.

I would think that if it were ever discovered that that line of reasoning were behind a decision, that doctor would be fired, blacklisted and probably arrested. That sounds illegal and a violation of their oaths.
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banananor
08/13/19 4:59:59 PM
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I was under the impression that the hippocratic oath meant doctors could never kill someone, even if it meant saving 100 others

Granted, I didn't actually go to med school so I'm only about 95% certain of this
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NFUN
08/13/19 5:11:25 PM
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metaIslug posted...
neonreaper posted...
How long do you think they can preserve organs for?

Not long but that's beside the point. If there was surplus of organs then the donors are ok with giving them to whomever. Ilm saying that *I* take issue to giving my organs to whomever

Which, rephrased slightly, is "I'd rather have my organs be thrown out than have them save an old person"
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banananor
08/13/19 5:45:33 PM
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This is the part of the conversation where you say "well, that makes no sense, but it's a free country. Go knock yourself out"
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Mac Arrowny
08/13/19 5:49:33 PM
#37:


banananor posted...
This is the part of the conversation where you say "well, that makes no sense, but it's a free country. Go knock yourself out"


I mean, just because it's a free country doesn't mean you have to affirm a person's assholery.
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 6:06:23 PM
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Xuxon posted...
the one potentially good reason i've heard is that if you are an organ donor and end up sick yourself, a doctor/hospital can then be faced with a choice of "save this one person" or "let this person die and save several others with their organs."

An equally valid fear is that doctors break into your home and steal your organs when you're sleeping

It's pretty insane really
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dilateDChemist
08/13/19 6:09:46 PM
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No, I'm afraid some rich dude will overpay for an organ of a saveable patient.

For the longest time I was a OD though.
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Mac Arrowny
08/13/19 6:19:40 PM
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dilateDChemist posted...
No, I'm afraid some rich dude will overpay for an organ of a saveable patient.

For the longest time I was a OD though.


Nah, rich people pay to harvest organs from poor people/people from third world countries. There's no point in breaking the law to get them from legit donors.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 6:19:44 PM
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No, I don't wanna make my loved ones lose me early because they saved all the non-organ donors before me if in an accident.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/13/19 6:22:11 PM
#42:


Mac Arrowny posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
metaIslug posted...
I've not done that. I have potential issue with who it would go to. If it's some old guy/hag, I'd be mad


How do you feel about the opposite? Would you like to receive an organ donation when you're old and sick and can recover completely by getting one?

Personally, I'd rather the organ go to someone young. If I am 65 and a 25 year old needed an organ I'd rather it go to the 25 year old.


Sure, that's fair. But if we had enough organ donors, there'd be no need to choose. Both you and the 25 year old could get transplants.

That's true.
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 7:18:24 PM
#43:


Corrik7 posted...
No, I don't wanna make my loved ones lose me early because they saved all the non-organ donors before me if in an accident.

They're already gonna save all the democrats and minorities (not to mention women and children) before you so you're still real close to the bottom of the ladder
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VintageGin
08/13/19 9:12:48 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
https://gizmodo.com/the-dark-side-of-being-an-organ-donor-5892470

Absolutely not.


the majority of organ donors are victims of head trauma, who end up being ruled dead based on brain-death criteria


yeah I can definitely see why you would be concerned
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 9:48:01 PM
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Corrik and Ulti seriously think their families will spend their entire savings to keep them in a brain dead coma for years, if not for the doctors pulling their plug to take their organs
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Corrik7
08/13/19 9:52:38 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Corrik and Ulti seriously think their families will spend their entire savings to keep them in a brain dead coma for years, if not for the doctors pulling their plug to take their organs

Never said that anywhere.
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 10:03:51 PM
#48:


Corrik7 posted...
Never said that anywhere

That's how implications work, yes
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Corrik7
08/13/19 10:06:48 PM
#49:


foolm0r0n posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Never said that anywhere

That's how implications work, yes

Yeah, I never implied that.
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swirIdude
08/13/19 10:11:10 PM
#50:


Nanis23 posted...
No
I am not going to die anytime soon


You hope so!
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