Current Events > Concerned parents uses experience with her children to show how alt right target

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She's literally a tumblrina
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but for real keep your kids out of fucking gangs that encourage violence. Doesn't matter if it's a bunch of white skinheads on the street wanting to gun down brown people or a bunch of black kids looking to get the respect of their peers so they jump some "rival".

Do your fucking job and raise your kids properly
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admiral calling out people for racism and suspensions on gamefaqs lmao

Pushing the narrative that only white teens are the ones susceptible to proganda and extremism is proganda itself being pushed by the media and other white people.

It's really weird. These issues are not limited to white people. I sometimes wonder if these people actually interact with other minorities and are not on some Sarah Silverman "I was stuck in the liberal bubble" bullshit.

Half the shit white males are scapegoated with is a much bigger thing in several minority groups, such as sexism and homophobia. But it's completely ignored.
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She never said that only white teens are susceptible to it. She said if you have white teenage sons they can be susceptible in this specific way.
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You can also watch political comedy shows with him, like Trevor Noah, John Oliver, Hasan Minhaj. Talk about what makes their jokes funny - who are the butt of the jokes? Do they "punch up" or down?

So, instead of letting the alt-right brainwash your kids into hating blacks, you should let the regressive left brainwash them into hating conservatives?
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Manocheese posted...

blacks

hmm
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Its funny cause all other groups can do anything and its ok but whites cant say or do anything.

Gee, that sounds pretty racist.
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I mean really. How the fuck is t his different to a black parent advising other black parents that maybe if their kids are talking about how the cops are t he enemy and t hey should always run that maybe it's a good idea to explain they're not?

Please. Explain to me. How the fuck is saying "yo parents, here's some messed up shit that are targeting your kids, keep an eye out for it" a bad t hing.
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Most message boards/online communities are full of strangers and freaks that will twist a young mind into doing obscene things. Take this place for example and the strange stuff you see here, it might have an effect on some. It takes a certain personality to WANT to seek out this place and THEN stay and engage in some kind of twisted interactions with others. Then add on low self esteem and identity problems and that's when the party really starts.

Internet is cancer basically.
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Darmik posted...

She never said that only white teens are susceptible to it. She said if you have white teenage sons they can be susceptible in this specific way.

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about making this about white teens in the first place.

The current enemy are white supremacists and I'm not specifically referring to her. People have made a scapegoat out of white supremacists because it's the easiest shit the majority, which are white people, can deal with.

But the issues are far greater than white supremacy or any of that nonsense. It's about the average population being gullible enough to believe whatever the fuck is presented to them, leading them down rabbit holes. The internet and places like YouTube are not healthy at all.

We have to stop that through proper digital wellness of the young population. Not just white teens. Every issue nowadays is placed on them, and it just increases the radicalization.
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LockeMonster posted...

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about making this about white teens in the first place.

The same fucking reason the fucking the new black panthers don't go around aiming to recruit white kids

Why the fuck is this even a conversation?
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

LockeMonster posted...

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about making this about white teens in the first place.

The same fucking reason the fucking the new black panthers don't go around aiming to recruit white kids

Why the fuck is this even a conversation?

What?
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LockeMonster posted...

Darmik posted...

She never said that only white teens are susceptible to it. She said if you have white teenage sons they can be susceptible in this specific way.

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about making this about white teens in the first place.

The current enemy are white supremacists and I'm not specifically referring to her. People have made a scapegoat out of white supremacists because it's the easiest shit the majority, which are white people, can deal with.

But the issues are far greater than white supremacy or any of that nonsense. It's about the average population being gullible enough to believe whatever the fuck is presented to them, leading them down rabbit holes. The internet and places like YouTube are not healthy at all.

We have to stop that through proper digital wellness of the young population. Not just white teens. Every issue nowadays is placed on them, and it just increases the radicalization.

I think it's all different stuff.

White supremacist guys are not being turned into violent extremists the same way as ISIS extremists are and they're not being corrupted the same way minorities in poor area are being turned to crime and etc.

She is a white mother to white kids. White teens are 100% being targeted by white supremacists on the internet through sites like 8chan so that's what she's talking about.

People believing anything they read on the internet is a factor but it's also yet another issue.

There's no one size fits all conversation to be had.
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Darmik posted...

White supremacist guys are not being turned into violent extremists the same way as ISIS extremists are and they're not being corrupted the same way minorities in poor area are being turned to crime and etc.

The first two are not comparable to the later. Gang violence is not about extremism. It's about feeling safe.

White supremacists and ISIS members are indeed corrupted in the same way, through propaganda.

Darmik posted...

She is a white mother to white kids. White teens are 100% being targeted by white supremacists on the internet through sites like 8chan so that's what she's talking about.

People believing anything they read on the internet is a factor but it's also yet another issue.

There's no one size fits all conversation to be had.

She is pointing out things like "triggered" and racial memes, which people of all colors and walks of life joke about. It's pretty much irrelevant and there's no study or anything linking anything. Only people who don't really ever deal with minorities would think this.

Everything she is saying is basically "I guess it might be this" without any proof. I'm saying enough minorities engage in these very same things to point out that it's bullshit that it's this that's radicalizing these people. It's stuff like being always targeted even when everybody does it, is what's causing more of the radicalization.
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LockeMonster posted...

Darmik posted...

White supremacist guys are not being turned into violent extremists the same way as ISIS extremists are and they're not being corrupted the same way minorities in poor area are being turned to crime and etc.

The first two are not comparable to the later. Gang violence is not about extremism. It's about feeling safe.

White supremacists and ISIS members are indeed corrupted in the same way, through propaganda.

Darmik posted...

She is a white mother to white kids. White teens are 100% being targeted by white supremacists on the internet through sites like 8chan so that's what she's talking about.

People believing anything they read on the internet is a factor but it's also yet another issue.

There's no one size fits all conversation to be had.

She is pointing out things like "triggered" and racial memes, which people of all colors and walks of life joke about. It's pretty much irrelevant and there's no study or anything linking anything. Only people who don't really ever deal with minorities would think this.

Everything she is saying is basically "I guess it might be this" without any proof. I'm saying enough minorities engage in these very same things to point out that it's bullshit that it's this that's radicalizing these people. It's stuff like being always targeted even when everybody does it, is what's causing more of the radicalization.

So "she is saying...without proof". while you "saying enough minorities engage in these vary same things"... without proof?

To add to what Darmik said (I believe) - this post and thread isn't discounting that radicalization happens to all demographics, just that there appears to a propensity for whites to be radicalized in certain ways. In the 90s white power groups used heavy metal - it didn't appeal to minorities, but provided platforms to white teenagers. Now, if you have some proof that equal percentages of minority teenagers retweet anti semitic/anti immigrant/anti feminst memes as white teenagers do, I'd love to see it.

"Light" jokes have been used to soften radical viewpoints since forever. It's easy to deal with if you remain calm, but unfortunately, our modern era of social media strongly incentivises sharable reactions.

I don't think it's a controversial thing to say that all of the homophobic jokes our generation would say over a decade ago had a negative impact over how we viewed homosexuality and gay rights when we were teens.

At the very least I know it did with me.
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Ruvan22 posted...

So "she is saying...without proof". while you "saying enough minorities engage in these vary same things"... without proof?

To add to what Darmik said (I believe) - this post and thread isn't discounting that radicalization happens to all demographics, just that there appears to a propensity for whites to be radicalized in certain ways. In the 90s white power groups used heavy metal - it didn't appeal to minorities, but provided platforms to white teenagers. Now, if you have some proof that equal percentages of minority teenagers retweet anti semitic/anti immigrant/anti feminst memes as white teenagers do, I'd love to see it.

This is white ignorance to believe that minorities don't engage in these things. It's already known several minority groups are way worse when it come sexism and homophobia and even racism.

I'm not gonna further eleborate on the exact races because I'm not trying to get modded, but I know this because I grew up in NY surrounded by people of all races. I'm Hispanic and most of my friends are black, Hispanic and Asian and they're all guilty of this. Most of you white people that jump on these bandwagons probably grew up in flyover suburbs and never had any deep relationships with minorities. Fooling yourselves that the white supremacists are the only ones saying these things.

My point is, nothing she is saying is indicative of anything except that teenagers are edgy and this is not limited to white people. By starting with the "these things radicalize", when there's no proof is as stupid as saying video games are the culprit.
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Well she does also link to a journalist who says similar shit is happening in Brazil through YouTube. So I don't think there's anyone claiming it's just white kids who are falling for alt-right extremism.
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She fucking said people saying triggered is the first step. I think it's a stupid thing to say, but the first step down the path of white supremacy? Give me a fucking break.

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Darmik posted...

Well she does also link to a journalist who says similar shit is happening in Brazil through YouTube. So I don't think there's anyone claiming it's just white kids who are falling for alt-right extremism.

I am in fact referring to that exact thing and it's really different from what she's saying and has to do with algorithms. I spoke about this in a topic from yesterday on this subject.. This was convered in length in this week's "The Weekly", which is a show on FX/Hulu done by the New York Times.
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iPhone_7 posted...

Internet is full of racist memes from the right and white shaming from the left.

But shaming is a good thing and a prerequisite to having a person check their privilege. A person simply saying that they acknowledge the privilege they possess isnt enough. They need to feel shame when thinking of their own privilege. Only then can one truly claim that theyve had their privilege checked.

Thats how were gonna win. Not fighting what we hate, saving what we love.

I'm sorry but I don't think this is right. Telling someone that they should feel bad because of something they can't control doesn't only make no sense, it's also counterproductive. It's the whole point of this post that it shouldn't be done.

People should be against the systems that brought about inequality but they shouldn't feel personally guilty or ashamed for them (unless they've actually, knowingly, willfully perpetuated them). Checking people's privilege is not some sort of one on one "reeducation" method. If you are aware of your privilege, then it's your choice to work for it or against it. You can't shame people into making good decisions (as illustrated by the topic). You need to empower people to make the right choice, not make it for them.

shnangyboos posted...

She fucking said people saying triggered is the first step. I think it's a stupid thing to say, but the first step down the path of white supremacy? Give me a fucking break.

Her entire point is that it creates a lack of empathy. And it does. By using the word as a joke or insult, it delegitimizes actual trauma suffered by real people.

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You both seem oblivious to the fact that it became the new u mad/salty long ago.

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Darmik posted...

Well she does also link to a journalist who says similar shit is happening in Brazil through YouTube. So I don't think there's anyone claiming it's just white kids who are falling for alt-right extremism.

It moreso in america

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Seems like she said some pretty reasonable stuff but obviously people on CE will know better or will zoom in on a tiny fraction of what she said and claim it invalidates everything else
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I can't wait to read through these comments to see some examples of what she's talking about
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Imagine actually believing this.

LockeMonster posted...

Pushing the narrative that only white teens are the ones susceptible to proganda and extremism is proganda itself being pushed by the media and other white people.

It's really weird. These issues are not limited to white people. I sometimes wonder if these people actually interact with other minorities and are not on some Sarah Silverman "I was stuck in the liberal bubble" bullshit.

Half the shit white males are scapegoated with is a much bigger thing in several minority groups, such as sexism and homophobia. But it's completely ignored.

when was the last time a black kid was in trouble for anti-white provacation?

when was the last time a black kid violently targeted random citizens of a race they hated?


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FrisbeeDude posted...

when was the last time a black kid violently targeted random citizens of a race they hated?

This happens frequently

FrisbeeDude posted...

when was the last time a black kid was in trouble for anti-white provacation?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_King_assault_case

They each went on to explain that May Day "is the day blacks beat on whites" and is known as "beat up a white kid day."[1][2][3][10] Others familiar with the attack said it wasn't personal, but that it was merely in keeping with the May Day tradition where minority children get a "free shot" at white children simply because of their race.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Chicago_torture_incident

The four suspects were arrested after the incident was livestreamed by one of the women on Facebook, and found guilty of hate crimes and other offenses.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/offenders

In 2017, race was reported for 6,370 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

50.7 percent were White.
21.3 percent were Black or African American.
7.5 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (group of multiple races).
0.8 percent (49 offenders) were American Indian or Alaska Native.
0.7 percent (42 offenders) were Asian.
3 offenders were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
19.1 percent were unknown.

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Id imagine the shooters are the racist pos on Xbox live communities that couldnt pass life after high school
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