Current Events > How did Thanos know Tony Stark's name in Infinity War? *spoilers maybe*

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 9:36:55 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
omg, people are talking about the first avengers movie in here too

someone call the cops

Up to IW spoilers are allowed fm the title
Just not endgame
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BLAKUboy
08/25/19 9:40:59 PM
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Tupacrulez posted...
If endgame was a DC movie it would've been absolutely shit on.

Only because DC wouldn't have done any of the work to get to their Endgame.
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au_gold
08/25/19 9:51:27 PM
#60:


MrNintendo1213 posted...
And about the topic title. Loki literally already knew the main Avengers and their details in the first movie. He knew about Cap, called him the soldier, the man out of time. They did research on who they would be fighting. And that was 7 years ago.

Why wouldn't he figure it out? It isn't bs just because you dont like it. There are only 6 stones. Of course he is going to learn everything possible about how to get each one and who would try to stop him.

Loki had access to Hawkeye and Stellan Skarsgard's brain. At the beginning of the movie, there's no indication that he knew any of the Avengers besides Thor. That one at least has an explanation in-movie.

What you described is literally "off-screen implied BS" reasoning. It's fine if that's the case. I just expected something more clear cut, especially given the way he said his name.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 9:53:24 PM
#61:


au_gold posted...

What you described is literally "off-screen implied BS" reasoning. It's fine if that's the case. I just expected something more clear cut, especially given the way he said his name.

The plot is supposed to be for INFINITY ENDGAME Tony is cursed with the knowledge of who Thanos is and what he wants. Tony is more evolved mentally and can see a bigger picture. He's the only one who can stop Thanos. Thanos and Tony are tied together
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Anteaterking
08/25/19 9:57:21 PM
#62:


au_gold posted...
Loki had access to Hawkeye and Stellan Skarsgard's brain. At the beginning of the movie, there's no indication that he knew any of the Avengers besides Thor. That one at least has an explanation in-movie.


There was no reason for Loki to know Tony's name. He didn't have any importance outside of Earth.

Once he led the team that foiled Thanos's plan, that changed.
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au_gold
08/25/19 9:59:55 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
The plot is supposed to be for INFINITY ENDGAME Tony is cursed with the knowledge of who Thanos is and what he wants. Tony is more evolved mentally and can see a bigger picture. He's the only one who can stop Thanos. Thanos and Tony are tied together

I never got that impression at all. How is Tony more cursed than any of the other Avengers? They all find out who Thanos is at around the same time.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 10:03:19 PM
#64:


au_gold posted...

I never got that impression at all.

It was that when Tony went through the portal originally he knew about Thanos
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MrNintendo1213
08/25/19 10:06:42 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
au_gold posted...

I never got that impression at all.

It was that when Tony went through the portal originally he knew about Thanos


Do you mean Tony literally know who Thanos was after he went through the wormhole?

Cause that isnt it. He knew there were fucking crazy ass aliens capable of destroying the Earth in general, not specifically Thanos
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XxKrazyChaosxX
08/25/19 10:06:58 PM
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Thanos was watching the press conference where Tony realized he was Iron Man.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 10:08:21 PM
#67:


MrNintendo1213 posted...

Do you mean Tony literally know who Thanos was after he went through the wormhole?

He "connected" with Thanos and ever since then he knew something bigger than the aliens were coming.
He didn't know who or what Thanos was but knew the invasion was bigger.
His point was he knew one day something like Thanos would come and it was the goal of him to stop it
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au_gold
08/25/19 10:14:42 PM
#68:


RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
He "connected" with Thanos and ever since then he knew something bigger than the aliens were coming.

I thought he found out about that from Wanda's vision in Age of Ultron. Even in that vision, Thanos wasn't there.
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Polycosm
08/25/19 10:25:54 PM
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How does Tony go to the bathroom in that suite though? Do the nanobots clean it up or is there some off-screen implied BS?
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au_gold
08/25/19 10:29:40 PM
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He addressed that in Iron Man 2.
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St0rmFury
08/26/19 1:10:58 AM
#71:


I thought the soul stone granted info of everyone who ever lived. Kinda like an infinite shinigami eyes.
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au_gold
08/26/19 2:00:50 AM
#72:


I suppose, but why single out Tony then? I know hes the guy who screwed up his initial plan, but the Guardians defeated Ronan, and other Avengers have done similarly impressive things.
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Foppe
08/26/19 2:05:42 AM
#73:


au_gold posted...
I suppose, but why single out Tony then? I know hes the guy who screwed up his initial plan, but the Guardians defeated Ronan, and other Avengers have done similarly impressive things.

You always remember the first one.
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008Zulu
08/26/19 2:17:56 AM
#74:


Loki mind controls Hawkeye, Hawkeye informs Loki of the Avengers membership. Loki reports to Thanos.
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Ricemills
08/26/19 2:24:05 AM
#75:


Darmik posted...
Same way he knew his name in Infinity War?

?
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au_gold
08/26/19 2:37:56 AM
#76:


MU4HApw

Welp, I guess thats that.
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EternalDivide
08/26/19 2:53:37 AM
#77:


For a split second when seeing it I thought the time travel bs in Endgame would explain this when idiot 2014 Thanos showed up. Sadly that was expecting too much.
So it remains unexplained.

Also once again. If it (explanations/motivations/etc) didn't happen in the movie. It didn't happen.
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au_gold
08/26/19 3:04:21 AM
#78:


Yeah, I thought the same thing.
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pegusus123456
08/26/19 3:09:00 AM
#79:


I'm genuinely confused as to why it's such a big deal that Thanos, the dude with an intergalactic army, would know the name of one of the most famous people on a planet that utterly ruined his plans.
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au_gold
08/26/19 3:26:21 AM
#80:


The fact is that it's an implied reason, and it's not conveyed clearly in the films. That line was hinting at a clever way for Thanos to discover Tony during Endgame, but they didn't bother.

There has to be a trope for that - where the audience just has to assume stuff that isn't properly set up in the film/show.
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pegusus123456
08/26/19 3:28:21 AM
#81:


au_gold posted...
That line was hinting at a clever way for Thanos to discover Tony during Endgame, but they didn't bother.

In what way?

au_gold posted...
There has to be a trope for that - where the audience just has to assume stuff that isn't properly set up in the film/show.

In this case, I did find the right page, but it looks like it's not a full article yet:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CommonSense
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Timohtep
08/26/19 3:29:17 AM
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Crepes
08/26/19 3:36:19 AM
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The query I have is why he says he's "cursed" with knowledge?

How is he cursed and why is he like Ironman in that regards.
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Kastrada
08/26/19 4:22:20 AM
#84:


I don't know what part of the timeline this is addressed but how could Tony have built the nanobot suit IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!?
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au_gold
08/26/19 4:46:20 AM
#85:


Crepes posted...
The query I have is why he says he's "cursed" with knowledge?

How is he cursed and why is he like Ironman in that regards.

Im also curious.
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pegusus123456
08/26/19 4:56:54 AM
#86:


Thanos thinks he's one of the smartest people in the universe because he's the only one smart enough to come up with this grand plan. He's cursed with the "knowledge" that the universe can only be saved by murdering trillions upon trillions of people.
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MagnusDJL
08/26/19 4:59:28 AM
#87:


au_gold posted...
Crepes posted...
The query I have is why he says he's "cursed" with knowledge?

How is he cursed and why is he like Ironman in that regards.

Im also curious.


Basically both are knowledgable about a scary fact that haunts them.

For Iron Man, it's the existance of aliens and how much of a threat they could be to Earth

For Thanos, it's the whole over population issue or the thing that ended up destroying his home planet
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Ricemills
08/26/19 5:03:07 AM
#88:


"ignorance is bliss", but the opposite.
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Jonny2284
08/26/19 5:06:18 AM
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He literally spent phase 1 and phase 2 sat on a throne watching events unfold, why are you confused that he knows about these events?
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St0rmFury
08/26/19 8:31:23 AM
#90:


Jonny2284 posted...
He literally spent phase 1 and phase 2 sat on a throne watching events unfold, why are you confused that he knows about these events?

But is Endgame Thanos before or after Avengers 1?
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cuttin_in_farm
08/26/19 8:34:38 AM
#91:


St0rmFury posted...
Jonny2284 posted...
He literally spent phase 1 and phase 2 sat on a throne watching events unfold, why are you confused that he knows about these events?

But is Endgame Thanos before or after Avengers 1?


Endgame Thanos watched all the MCU films either directly or by word of mouth via Nebula.
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Ricemills
08/26/19 8:35:13 AM
#92:


St0rmFury posted...
Jonny2284 posted...
He literally spent phase 1 and phase 2 sat on a throne watching events unfold, why are you confused that he knows about these events?

But is Endgame Thanos before or after Avengers 1?


after Avengers 1, before Avengers 2.
since it's around the same time GotG started.
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