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red sox 777
09/04/19 3:22:13 PM
#253:


Trump is always going to be on the side of overly cautious on these storm predictions. If the storm doesn't hit, he looks like he is just erring on the side of safety. If it does, he is suddenly a genius meteorologist with far greater skills than all of the professional meteorologists.
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LordoftheMorons
09/04/19 3:22:19 PM
#254:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
that map thing may be top 5 funniest Trump moments

Guess he has to live up to the high standards of dumbfuckery that the name Mr. Brexit demands...!
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LordoftheMorons
09/04/19 3:28:00 PM
#255:


TheRock1525 posted...
That's also literally illegal.

Yep

Relevant statute: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2074
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red sox 777
09/04/19 3:28:52 PM
#256:


If he wants the name Mr. Brexit he should start working on making that happen. Right now it's looking like Brexit might not happen at all!

I propose that the US immediately offer the UK 350 million pounds per week for the NHS and full NAFTA membership if the UK leaves the EU with no deal. The US can also slap a 15% tariff on the EU, which the UK can avoid by leaving.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 3:29:56 PM
#257:


LordoftheMorons posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
That's also literally illegal.

Yep

Relevant statute: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2074


If that's an executive branch department then Trump is its highest authority. So whatever he says is an official forecast.
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MoogleKupo141
09/04/19 3:30:08 PM
#258:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Guess he has to live up to the high standards of dumbfuckery that the name Mr. Brexit demands...!


thats #1 funniest

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red13n
09/04/19 3:33:27 PM
#259:


literally took a black marker over a map for a photo op.
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HashtagSEP
09/04/19 3:36:51 PM
#260:


Also it's like a week old map
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MoogleKupo141
09/04/19 3:38:50 PM
#261:


well then its not even a forecast anymore, its a pastcast

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Corrik7
09/04/19 3:43:44 PM
#262:


As someone who followed this hurricane very tightly over the past week because I was unsure if it could have ramifications on my vacation. That appears to be one of the older prediction maps. Not sure if it's exact, but the eye was supposed to go directly over Disney at one point and north west across Florida. (At one point even back into the gulf).

Looks like he is just using an older model. The hurricane of course changed a lot from that.

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Maniac64
09/04/19 3:44:22 PM
#263:


red sox 777 posted...
Trump is always going to be on the side of overly cautious on these storm predictions. If the storm doesn't hit, he looks like he is just erring on the side of safety. If it does, he is suddenly a genius meteorologist with far greater skills than all of the professional meteorologists.

Ok but the storm has turned away from Georgia yet alone Alabama. Why use a 6 day old map instead of a more current one that would correctly show the Very real danger to north carolina.

So he isnt being more cautious, just directing his caution to the wrong places.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 3:48:37 PM
#264:


He included all of those states in his original post. He is now defending his inclusion of Alabama in that post.
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LordoftheMorons
09/04/19 3:54:27 PM
#265:


Corrik7 posted...
As someone who followed this hurricane very tightly over the past week because I was unsure if it could have ramifications on my vacation. That appears to be one of the older prediction maps. Not sure if it's exact, but the eye was supposed to go directly over Disney at one point and north west across Florida. (At one point even back into the gulf).

Looks like he is just using an older model. The hurricane of course changed a lot from that.

The actual prediction from that map goes out to the white circle (which does not include Alabama)

He appears to have extended it with the black circle in sharpie or something. That was never part of that forecast.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 4:05:11 PM
#266:


So.....options for Boris.

1. Prorogue Parliament immediately, before the Lords can pass this bill.
2. Advise the Queen to refuse royal assent to the bill.
3. Advise the Queen to immediately create a vast number of Brexiteer lords to vote down the bill.

Anything else?
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Corrik7
09/04/19 4:06:59 PM
#267:


LordoftheMorons posted...
The actual prediction from that map goes out to the white circle (which does not include Alabama)

He appears to have extended it with the black circle in sharpie or something. That was never part of that forecast.
Obviously. He was extrapolating. The map itself is real. He was explaining why he mentioned Alabama. If it had followed that track, Alabama would have been hit.

But, most people looking at these maps don't even seem to understand the cone of probability is the possible paths of the eye of the storm. With the storm getting bigger and extending outward up to however many miles. Was 45 miles at one point (tropical force winds at 110 miles out or so). That, if it followed the uppermost of that cone, it could have hit a ton of states. The fact he added Alabama was probably just based on an old map and he was pumping the storm up as he does all his storms (look at his comments on basically ever hurricane). People are looking way too much at it. Though, Trump is taking way too much time going back at it either.

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ChaosTonyV4
09/04/19 4:12:08 PM
#268:


Corrik7 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
The actual prediction from that map goes out to the white circle (which does not include Alabama)

He appears to have extended it with the black circle in sharpie or something. That was never part of that forecast.
Obviously. He was extrapolating. The map itself is real. He was explaining why he mentioned Alabama. If it had followed that track, Alabama would have been hit.

But, most people looking at these maps don't even seem to understand the cone of probability is the possible paths of the eye of the storm. With the storm getting bigger and extending outward up to however many miles. Was 45 miles at one point (tropical force winds at 110 miles out or so). That, if it followed the uppermost of that cone, it could have hit a ton of states. The fact he added Alabama was probably just based on an old map and he was pumping the storm up as he does all his storms (look at his comments on basically ever hurricane). People are looking way too much at it. Though, Trump is taking way too much time going back at it either.


The reason they dont just extrapolate hurricanes all the way to the West Coast is because they lose strength over land and dissipate.

It wouldnt be a hurricane anymore if it traveled straight through that exact projection to Alabama, thus, him saying Alabama should prepare for a hurricane was irresponsible, and as we now know, illegal.

Probably because of the time/money/panic involved.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 4:14:26 PM
#269:


Alabama is not the West Coast. Weirder things have happened in weather than a hurricane continuing through Florida to land in Alabama. And the usual way is to cross Florida, restrengthen in the Gulf of Mexico, then turn north.
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ChaosTonyV4
09/04/19 4:17:58 PM
#270:


red sox 777 posted...
Alabama is not the West Coast. Weirder things have happened in weather than a hurricane continuing through Florida to land in Alabama. And the usual way is to cross Florida, restrengthen in the Gulf of Mexico, then turn north.


That would be a different projection than the sharpied one he showed, dude.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 4:28:13 PM
#271:


Trump never claimed that the storm hitting Alabama was likely or that his forecast had any measure of precision. He basically named all the coastal states in the Southeastern US. Trump statements should basically never be read for precision.
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HashtagSEP
09/04/19 4:47:51 PM
#272:


There are actually pictures of Trump being briefed on the 29th with that same map without the Sharpie line

Just when you think he can't get any more dumb
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pyresword
09/04/19 4:49:25 PM
#273:


Or maybe Trump should just speak precisely in situations when people's safety is not known to all parties, which is what everyone has been saying all along.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 4:52:40 PM
#274:


pyresword posted...
Or maybe Trump should just speak precisely in situations when people's safety is not known to all parties, which is what everyone has been saying all along.


I don't think Trump is able to use precision. If the country wanted that, we should have voted for Hillary. Instead we voted for feelings.
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Corrik7
09/04/19 4:57:22 PM
#275:


People are outraged today over the dumbest things. Lol.

And the ending of that cone does not indicate that is where they felt it would no longer be a hurricane either.

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Ashethan
09/04/19 5:04:17 PM
#276:


Corrik7 posted...
People are outraged today over the dumbest things. Lol.


You mean like Tan Suits and Bike Helmets and Dijon Mustard?
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Corrik7
09/04/19 5:09:37 PM
#277:


Ashethan posted...
You mean like Tan Suits and Bike Helmets and Dijon Mustard?
Yeah.

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XIII_rocks
09/04/19 5:13:46 PM
#278:


https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1169309061202010112?s=20

Interesting...

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Jakyl25
09/04/19 5:17:35 PM
#279:


Corrik7 posted...
People are outraged today over the dumbest things. Lol.

And the ending of that cone does not indicate that is where they felt it would no longer be a hurricane either.


Its mostly that Trump, after being corrected by the National Weather Service, insisted he knew more than the National Weather Service

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xp1337
09/04/19 8:25:36 PM
#280:


how does the onion even continue to exist in a timeline where the president of the united states draws a poor alteration in sharpie (doesn't even stay consistent with the cone size!) on an old, outdated hurricane projection map to protect his ego from being wrong on twitter and then when reporters ask about the sharpie he claims he doesn't know

this has 100% got to be the stupidest thing that has happened in this presidency, right? not the worst, or even that important, but just the dumbest.
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ChaosTonyV4
09/04/19 8:26:58 PM
#281:


xp1337 posted...
how does the onion even continue to exist in a timeline where the president of the united states draws a poor alteration (doesn't even stay consistent with the cone size!) on an old, outdated hurricane projection map to protect his ego from being wrong on twitter and then when reporters ask about the sharpie he claims he doesn't know

this has 100% got to be the stupidest thing that has happened in this presidency, right? not the worst, or even that important, but just the dumbest.


You forgot the wildest part, that his supporters look at it and go: What? This is normal.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 8:52:37 PM
#282:


xp1337 posted...
how does the onion even continue to exist in a timeline where the president of the united states draws a poor alteration in sharpie (doesn't even stay consistent with the cone size!) on an old, outdated hurricane projection map to protect his ego from being wrong on twitter and then when reporters ask about the sharpie he claims he doesn't know

this has 100% got to be the stupidest thing that has happened in this presidency, right? not the worst, or even that important, but just the dumbest.


The cone is limited in time. Beyond the last time forecasted by the cone, the hurricane could have continued West into Alabama. Trump's bubble simply demonstrated a possible path for the storm.
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Paratroopa1
09/04/19 8:54:23 PM
#283:


I've been wondering what people in Alabama think
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red sox 777
09/04/19 8:56:15 PM
#284:


I mean, does anyone here follow weather forecasts much? The weather channel was my favorite channel as a child and I would watch marathon sessions when there was a hurricane making landfall. And for nor'easters hitting New England. Our forecasts are just not that accurate.
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Corrik7
09/04/19 8:56:19 PM
#285:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I've been wondering what people in Alabama think
So happy our president is looking out for us.

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red sox 777
09/04/19 8:57:17 PM
#286:


So when Trump advises people in California to take shelter from an impending earthquake, they are probably not going to do it. And then blame him for not warning them.

It will be like Congress overriding Obama's veto and then realizing they didn't want the bill after all and blaming him for not explaining to them well enough why the bill was bad.
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xp1337
09/04/19 9:04:21 PM
#287:


When I was a kid, I too watched the weather channel basically nonstop, hurricanes in particular. Hell, some of the first computer programs I played as a kid were hurricane tracking ones. Think the first job I thought I wanted as a kid was meteorologist (that or vet can't recall what happened first)

this is just the dumbest thing i have seen from this administration

literally using a nearly-week old forecast map and then altering it with a literal sharpie rather than using the current map that would actually be relevant to public safety when talking about a hurricane simply because he has what must be the most fragile ego to ever exist and feels "proving" himself right is more important than informing the public as to the state of actual reality
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ChaosTonyV4
09/04/19 9:06:52 PM
#288:


Corrik7 posted...
Paratroopa1 posted...
I've been wondering what people in Alabama think
So happy our president is looking out for us.


The fact you cant tell hes only concerned about his pride makes me sad.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 9:11:00 PM
#289:


xp1337 posted...
When I was a kid, I too watched the weather channel basically nonstop, hurricanes in particular. Hell, some of the first computer programs I played as a kid were hurricane tracking ones. Think the first job I thought I wanted as a kid was meteorologist (that or vet can't recall what happened first)

this is just the dumbest thing i have seen from this administration

literally using a nearly-week old forecast map and then altering it with a literal sharpie rather than using the current map that would actually be relevant to public safety when talking about a hurricane simply because he has what must be the most fragile ego to ever exist and feels "proving" himself right is more important than informing the public as to the state of actual reality


I mean......I could see Obama catching flak for this but Trump does this kind of thing daily.
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TheRock1525
09/04/19 9:17:16 PM
#290:


Some of us have zero desire to normalize his idiocy.
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Nrrr
09/04/19 9:19:08 PM
#291:


The fact that Donald Trump's just a giant oaf dumb guy whose entire politics is based on grievances and getting mad at the TV is actually what endears him to his supporters. They hate most of his other traits, as an effete New York elite. Liberals are constantly like "maybe now they will FINALLY see he is.stupid!!" Most people just don't put intellect as a priority in a leader. Think about the typical "team" make up, the smart guy character is almost never the one in charge.

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pyresword
09/04/19 9:19:26 PM
#292:


The fact that Trump does this kind of thing daily does not make it okay to do this kind of thing.
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red sox 777
09/04/19 9:20:12 PM
#293:


But dumbest thing from this administration? How about windmills cause cancer?
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Corrik7
09/04/19 9:20:20 PM
#294:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
The fact you cant tell hes only concerned about his pride makes me sad.
I don't think Alabama people would think that.

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red sox 777
09/04/19 9:22:55 PM
#295:


Nrrr posted...
The fact that Donald Trump's just a giant oaf dumb guy whose entire politics is based on grievances and getting mad at the TV is actually what endears him to his supporters. They hate most of his other traits, as an effete New York elite. Liberals are constantly like "maybe now they will FINALLY see he is.stupid!!" Most people just don't put intellect as a priority in a leader. Think about the typical "team" make up, the smart guy character is almost never the one in charge.


There's no "I" in team but there is an M and an E.
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xp1337
09/04/19 9:24:16 PM
#296:


red sox 777 posted...
But dumbest thing from this administration? How about windmills cause cancer?

strong contender but i still give it to this. gotta be top 3 for sure though
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Nelson_Mandela
09/04/19 9:29:00 PM
#297:


https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1169376592419786755?s=19

Harris going full-on dictator. Thank god for 2A if she is ever elected!
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Not_an_Owl
09/04/19 10:03:23 PM
#298:


pyresword posted...
The fact that Trump does this kind of thing daily does not make it okay to do this kind of thing.

I mean, there's also the fact that he literally broke federal law today, but who gives a shit about that, right?

I know it's an old game, but imagine how the GOP would respond if Obama had done this - claimed a hurricane was going to hit where it wasn't, then broke federal statue by presenting a modified week-old hurricane projection as fact to "prove" he was correct. They'd be starting impeachment proceedings within the day.
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Paratroopa1
09/04/19 10:04:10 PM
#299:


donald trump didn't wear a tan suit while he did it though
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09/04/19 10:12:05 PM
#300:


Only on this website would a POLITICS topic on a GAMING MESSAGE BOARD be on the front page during tonight's Nintendo's Direct.
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09/04/19 10:22:07 PM
#301:


that's because this website is the last with gaming message boards
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ChaosTonyV4
09/04/19 10:35:47 PM
#302:


Corrik7 posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
The fact you cant tell hes only concerned about his pride makes me sad.
I don't think Alabama people would think that.


You think so little about Alabama? Yeesh.
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