Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 237: You Never Go Ass to Monmouth

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Super fucked up:

https://twitter.com/joycewhitevance/status/1170851032726953984?s=21
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Good point from Krugman about NOAA employees being ordered not to contradict Trump - one could easily imagine him directing agencies to report false economic data if the economy starting moving towards a recession:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1170890800663654401?s=21
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LordoftheMorons posted...

one could easily imagine him directing agencies to report false economic data if the economy starting moving towards a recession

The administration has literally already falsified job numbers unless you believe they're so incompetent as to be half a million (20%) off in their initial releases.

You know how whenever Trump reveals classified info, his defenders will say that it doesnt matter because he has the ultimate power to declassify anything (true) and that if he did so it must have been for a good reason (definitely false)? Do you also remember how Trump revealed Israeli secrets to the Russians in the White House the day after firing Comey?

Well, after that US intelligence was forced to exfiltrate a spy high up in the Russian government:
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

As has been obvious all along, Trump himself is a massive threat to national security.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

You know how whenever Trump reveals classified info, his defenders will say that it doesnt matter because he has the ultimate power to declassify anything (true) and that if he did so it must have been for a good reason (definitely false)? Do you also remember how Trump revealed Israeli secrets to the Russians in the White House the day after firing Comey?

Well, after that US intelligence was forced to exfiltrate a spy high up in the Russian government:
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

As has been obvious all along, Trump himself is a massive threat to national security.

In your own link...

"Asked for comment, Brittany Bramell, the CIA director of public affairs, told CNN: "CNN's narrative that the Central Intelligence Agency makes life-or-death decisions based on anything other than objective analysis and sound collection is simply false. Misguided speculation that the President's handling of our nation's most sensitive intelligencewhich he has access to each and every daydrove an alleged exfiltration operation is inaccurate."
A spokesperson for Secretary of State Mike Pompeo declined to comment. White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said, "CNN's reporting is not only incorrect, it has the potential to put lives in danger.""

Also, even if true, I can't grasp how this article being posted is anything but providing information to Russia anyways.

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Grisham is a proven liar. Don't know about Bramell, but given that Pompeo has been described as "a heat seeking missile for Trump's ass" I don't think I'd put much stock in the CIA public affairs comments over the multiple sources that confirmed this story to CNN.

The article does provide info to Russia (two years after the exfiltration). Balanced against that is the fact the biggest threat to US national security is the president.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Grisham is a proven liar. Don't know about Bramell, but given that Pompeo has been described as "a heat seeking missile for Trump's ass" I don't think I'd put much stock in the CIA public affairs comments over the multiple sources that confirmed this story to CNN.

The article does provide info to Russia (two years after the exfiltration). Balanced against that is the fact the biggest threat to US national security is the president.

It says repeatedly that there are not other assets high in the Russian government and they are clueless to their inner workings. If their article is true, then it is truly not well thought out to post.

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Whoops Pompeos at State now; mental lapse there. Department spokespeople have repeatedly denied corroborated news stories during this administration, though.
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Corrik7 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Grisham is a proven liar. Don't know about Bramell, but given that Pompeo has been described as "a heat seeking missile for Trump's ass" I don't think I'd put much stock in the CIA public affairs comments over the multiple sources that confirmed this story to CNN.

The article does provide info to Russia (two years after the exfiltration). Balanced against that is the fact the biggest threat to US national security is the president.

It says repeatedly that there are not other assets high in the Russian government and they are clueless to their inner workings. If their article is true, then it is truly not well thought out to post.

Lets suppose we stipulate to the idea of it being bad for CNN to report on this. Does that do anything to make what Trump has done any more acceptable?
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https://twitter.com/witchofpeace/status/1170945244185210881?s=19

Just a reminder that deplatforming works.
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https://twitter.com/gwensnyderphl/status/1170818436202737667?s=21

heres another capture of that rant with two other alt-right chumps (one being Jacob Wohl) nodding in agreement that their audiences arent big enough to support them anymore

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https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1171128665284984833?s=21

Stefan Molyneux really living up to his claim of being a fact-based intellectual

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Far-right assholes whining about how they're being "censored" because platforms are deciding to not peddle their bullshit always brings a smile to my face.
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So the US apparently potentially had a ceasefire negotiated with the taliban, and then Trump refused to sign it ahead of time because he wanted the photo op of sealing the deal in the US at Camp David:

https://twitter.com/mattgertz/status/1171029695124647936?s=21
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Also - Wilber Ross threatened to fire people at the NOAA after they contradicted Trump:

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1171146598124048384?s=21

Such an unending avalanche of horribleness from this administration
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LordoftheMorons posted...

So the US apparently potentially had a ceasefire negotiated with the taliban, and then Trump refused to sign it ahead of time because he wanted the photo op of sealing the deal in the US at Camp David:

https://twitter.com/mattgertz/status/1171029695124647936?s=21

They just attacked and killed an American soldier.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Lets suppose we stipulate to the idea of it being bad for CNN to report on this. Does that do anything to make what Trump has done any more acceptable?

Depends on the truthfulness of the report. If he endangered an asset's life, that is obviously not good. That asset is effectively an American soldier.

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Corrik7 posted...

They just attacked and killed an American soldier.

And NK tortured someone until they were effectively brain-dead and Trump still met with them.
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TheRock1525 posted...

And NK tortured someone until they were effectively brain-dead and Trump still met with them.

And did we make a deal with NK?

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Corrik7 posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

And NK tortured someone until they were effectively brain-dead and Trump still met with them.

And did we make a deal with NK?

I recall that we did, NK didnt abide by it, and Trump then walked the deal back after he got the positive optics of making a deal with NK.
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Espeon posted...

I recall that we did, NK didnt abide by it, and Trump then walked the deal back after he got the positive optics of making a deal with NK.

Can you recall the details of our peace agreement with North Korea?

You are comparing apples to oranges here anyways, but it is good Trump didn't follow through with the Taliban peace agreement if they are attacking and killing American soldiers. It could have been miscommunication or such, but it is unlikely the attack happened BECAUSE Trump wanted to sign the agreement in person.

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There was no agreement between the US and North Korea other than a very broad statement of a desire to be on friendlier terms and to work toward peace.
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Corrik7 posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

And NK tortured someone until they were effectively brain-dead and Trump still met with them.

And did we make a deal with NK?

he still met with them.
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Corrik7 posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

And NK tortured someone until they were effectively brain-dead and Trump still met with them.

And did we make a deal with NK?

We did in fact make and consummate a deal to meet with NK.

https://mobile.twitter.com/blogTO/status/1169998472742940672

Lolol

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The best time to immediately pull all US troops out of Afghanistan was yesterday. The second best time is today.
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Holy shit, the exfiltrated spy has direct access to Putin, and was a key source for the ICs conclusion that Putin interfered in 2016 to benefit Trump:

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1171226614866337792?s=21
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Holy shit, the exfiltrated spy has direct access to Putin, and was a key source for the ICs conclusion that Putin interfered in 2016 to benefit Trump:

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1171226614866337792?s=21

They supposedly wanted to get him out during Obama's presidency. Hmmmm.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Holy shit, the exfiltrated spy has direct access to Putin, and was a key source for the ICs conclusion that Putin interfered in 2016 to benefit Trump:

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1171226614866337792?s=21

Well that perfectly and neatly answers the question of why Trump would burn him.

but jesus fucking christ

All I can do is hope for that man's continued safety.

Corrik7 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Holy shit, the exfiltrated spy has direct access to Putin, and was a key source for the ICs conclusion that Putin interfered in 2016 to benefit Trump:

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1171226614866337792?s=21

They supposedly wanted to get him out during Obama's presidency. Hmmmm.

Presumably because they werent confident that Trump would keep his identity secret
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I don't think there's much hope, this is pretty much a death sentence

The original CNN article said that he was successfully exfiltrated shortly after Trump's oval office meeting with the Kislyak and Lavrov

(Hopefully to the US, since Russia has assassinated people even in the UK).
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I don't have much faith in his safety here either given the level to which our government is compromised

What's weird is I could have sworn we knew a bunch of the details of this story a long time ago (Particularly that there was an IC asset with that level of access and provided that detail.) The exfiltrate stuff may be new but... I kind of always thought that was a given when the previous details came out.
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UK votes "no" on no deal brexit.

Seems like they just really like voting "no" on stuff. Just phrase anything the right way and you can get what you want
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Okay, I guess the guy is living in DC and Ken Dilanian for some reason thought it would be a good idea to report on that fact

Apparently he even knocked on the dudes door? JFC
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eh, if Ken Dilanian can find him then anyone who wants to can and that's more of the point

plus he says he cleared what's fine for him to report with officials so yeah
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What an ad

https://twitter.com/Politidope/status/1171203103997276160
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Meanwhile, Tulsi was busy appearing on the Rubin Report and preaching "unity" between the left and right again while taking a few shots at the far left.

Gabbard also referenced socialists within the Democratic Party, saying many Democrats running for the 2020 nomination pander to the far left and few have acknowledged the negative aspects of factions and in-fighting. Gabbard says these factions are counterproductive.

I think theres a bigger question here about all of the different factions that exist within the Democratic party. I think that a lot of the inward-facing attacks, from one section to the other, that were seeing is not good for the Democratic Party, its not good for the country, Gabbard says in the video below.

Sorry for bringing her up again, but she is really showing her colors, now.
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She came out staunchly against impeachment, so she can already fuck right off.
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Grimlyn posted...

eh, if Ken Dilanian can find him then anyone who wants to can and that's more of the point

plus he says he cleared what's fine for him to report with officials so yeah

It is probably true that the Russians figured out that he was a spy as soon as he was pulled

On the other hand, wow at this amazingly bad defense:
https://twitter.com/jedshug/status/1171303851179290624
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alright hot take

Using a candidate's opinions on impeachment as a litmus test is dumb. sure, you can use it to demonstrate their character or whatever, but there are plenty of other ways to do that, and it's the one issue where it literally does not matter what they do would if elected
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NFUN posted...

alright hot take

Using a candidate's opinions on impeachment as a litmus test is dumb. sure, you can use it to demonstrate their character or whatever, but there are plenty of other ways to do that, and it's the one issue where it literally does not matter what they do would if elected

I agree with this, but also:

StealThisSheen posted...

Meanwhile, Tulsi was busy appearing on the Rubin Report and preaching "unity" between the left and right again while taking a few shots at the far left.

Gabbard also referenced socialists within the Democratic Party, saying many Democrats running for the 2020 nomination pander to the far left and few have acknowledged the negative aspects of factions and in-fighting. Gabbard says these factions are counterproductive.

I think theres a bigger question here about all of the different factions that exist within the Democratic party. I think that a lot of the inward-facing attacks, from one section to the other, that were seeing is not good for the Democratic Party, its not good for the country, Gabbard says in the video below.

Sorry for bringing her up again, but she is really showing her colors, now.

Fuck her for this. Dave Ruben is absolute garbage, and to go on his show and pander while talking about pandering to the far left.

Friendship ended with Tulsi.
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tulsi is the literal messiah
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Tulsi is literally trying to save your party by getting it to win and you guys hate her being you don't want to listen. Have fun with 4 more years of Trump.
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It seems like, when the Establishment is in power, Tulsi rails against them. When liberal ideals start to take hold and gain popularity, now shes railing against THAT. Dont get me wrong: a message of stop attacking your own party is good, but it comes across as opportunistic, and an attack in and of itself, when coming from Tulsi Gabbard.
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Bolton out

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