Current Events > Hideo Kojima is "The last Genius in the industry"

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solosnake
09/07/19 8:28:41 PM
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https://www.gamepressure.com/editorials/50-faces-of-hideo-kojima/z61bc
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Talk2DaHand
09/07/19 8:31:26 PM
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No. He's not. There's geniuses at Obsidian, Rockstar, Naughty Dog, and many other dev teams.

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Rika_Furude
09/07/19 8:35:55 PM
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Yoko Taro
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Smashingpmkns
09/07/19 8:39:56 PM
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He's one of the last ones that's for sure.
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LadyVyxx
09/07/19 8:41:20 PM
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Guys a nutter but I adore his work. Cant wait to experience unhinged Kojima soon in Death Stranding even if it is a trainwreck. Most brilliant minds are also a little crazy
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MarthGoomba
09/07/19 8:43:18 PM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
There's geniuses at Obsidian, Rockstar, Naughty Dog,

Rockstar and Naughty Dog have no creativity whatsoever and Obsidian is mostly nostalgia pandering
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NinjaWarrior455
09/07/19 8:45:03 PM
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Kojima is definitely one of the few creators that is able to actually put himself into his work. When you play his games, they're distinctly his games with his style and direction.
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konokonohamaru
09/07/19 8:45:59 PM
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Toby Fox
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JuanCarlos1
09/07/19 8:47:04 PM
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More like one of the last game developers not restrained by the suits?
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Smashingpmkns
09/07/19 10:01:43 PM
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Finished the article. Kinda weird how the guy writing it thinks Peter Molyneux is dead lol
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Zack_Attackv1
09/07/19 10:14:07 PM
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*coughing fit of laughter*
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Zodd3224
09/07/19 10:19:11 PM
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Octans
09/07/19 11:37:04 PM
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Todd Howard
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Led-Zeppelin
09/07/19 11:45:30 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Talk2DaHand posted...
There's geniuses at Obsidian, Rockstar, Naughty Dog,

Rockstar and Naughty Dog have no creativity whatsoever and Obsidian is mostly nostalgia pandering

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008Zulu
09/07/19 11:51:48 PM
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Define, "genius"...
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Smashingpmkns
09/07/19 11:57:31 PM
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I would like Naughty Dog more if their more recent games were actually fun tbh. They have good to great stories but the gameplay is really nothing to write home about.
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Juhanor
09/08/19 12:03:02 AM
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Suda51 has some good ideas but they seem to be too reigned in by business suits
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s0nicfan
09/08/19 12:03:25 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Yoko Taro

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DevsBro
09/08/19 12:14:37 AM
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Miyamoto is the only one I can come up with off the top of my head who gives him a run for his money tbh.

It's true Kojima goes off the deep end at times but it's the risk you take when you're constantly pushing the limits of what you can do.

In literal 2015, he broke new ground with two major scenarios in MGSV that blew my mind (the quarantine subplot and Mission 43). It would be one thing to do that 20 or 30 years ago--even in those days, a really good designer might get one moment like this in a game--but after there have been thousands of high-budget titles release and almost all of them had over the prior decade fallen hard into "playing it safe" territory, he's looking at what it means for the story to give the player personal stakes, and putting legit hard choices in your way. The latter is more widely recognized, but it was actually the former that--to me--really felt like an advancement of the industry.

The game put the COA in the player's hands, and gave no clear indication of what to even do. Just the call that you had to do something, or else. To judge correctly would make you the kind of villain who did what he had to do. To judge incorrectly would make you a straight-up murderer. And the whole thing serves to relate to the player on a direct, personal level, that BB was indeed a villain, but he how he got to that point was far more complicated than anyone had yet shown an appreciation for--a series of trying to be the lesser of two evils, and not always succeeding, because the road he was traveling was being blazed as he walked it. There were no instructions on how to do it right, and many times there wasn't a conventional "right" decision to even make.

The game was far from perfect, sure, but in spite of it he accomplished twice in one game what many designers don't accomplish in a lifetime.

This is even decades after the time he released Metal Gear 2 in literal 1990, with stealth mechanics that wouldn't be rivaled by another series until nearly a decade later, and decades after he revolutionized the industry into the cinematic style that many if not most of its biggest games immitate, and again wouldn't on average catch up on for two generations.

Guy deserves mad props, crazy or not.
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SSJGrimReaper
09/08/19 12:16:21 AM
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ultimate reaver
09/08/19 12:23:27 AM
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never seen a legitimate reason to dislike kojima that didn't come off as childish or petty. dude's made a ton of good games and very very few bad ones

it's a shame mgsv came out when video game discussion online was at its absolute rock bottom lowest and now i have to listen to the "hackio kojumbo was always bad" meme constantly

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Rika_Furude
09/08/19 12:29:52 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
never seen a legitimate reason to dislike kojima that didn't come off as childish or petty. dude's made a ton of good games and very very few bad ones

it's a shame mgsv came out when video game discussion online was at its absolute rock bottom lowest and now i have to listen to the "hackio kojumbo was always bad" meme constantly

it wasnt even kojima that ruined mgs5 it was konami

add on to the fact that mgs1 was supposed to be the last mgs game, and then konami made him make another which was the last, and so on and so forth
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AlphaCuck
09/08/19 12:34:38 AM
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Not sure about last but he certainly is genius
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008Zulu
09/08/19 12:45:53 AM
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Before you call him a genius, just remember that in his new Stranding simulator, your character has a bladder than must be manually emptied periodically.
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DevsBro
09/08/19 12:53:07 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Before you call him a genius, just remember that in his new Stranding simulator, your character has a bladder than must be manually emptied periodically.

Oddly enough, this was an idea I came up with after playing, of all things, MGS1.

I found it super weird that Snake never had to pee (I was like 10), and I missed the nanomachine thing somehow, so I came up with havinf an invisible pee meter that would slowly fill up and Snake would start jumping around, having a hard time aiming, etc, and if you ignored it long enough, you would wet yourself and enemies would be able to smell you.

Also oddly, the stamina system from MGS3 ended up being not that different from my idea...
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user-2
09/08/19 12:54:00 AM
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MGSV wasn't even that bad honestly. It may not have been as good as the others in the series and the whole TV series like episodic storytelling didn't appeal to me much but it is a really good game and better than 90% of games of this generation. Released in 2015 and it plays more smoothly than most other AAA games released in 2018. You have to play it all the way through and listen to all the tapes and be really into the story to truly appreciate it. I have grown to love it.
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Rika_Furude
09/08/19 12:56:46 AM
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user-2 posted...
MGSV wasn't even that bad honestly. It may not have been as good as the others in the series and the whole TV series like episodic storytelling didn't appeal to me much but it is a really good game and better than 90% of games of this generation. Released in 2015 and it plays more smoothly than most other AAA games released in 2018. You have to play it all the way through and listen to all the tapes and be really into the story to truly appreciate it. I have grown to love it.

it was definitely a fantastic game, it was just not comparable to the first 4 MGS games in terms of story
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AlphaCuck
09/08/19 1:03:33 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Before you call him a genius, just remember that in his new Stranding simulator, your character has a bladder than must be manually emptied periodically.
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s0nicfan
09/08/19 9:38:57 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Before you call him a genius, just remember that in his new Stranding simulator, your character has a bladder than must be manually emptied periodically.


If that feature was in RDR2, you'd be praising how immersive it was while you watched your horse's balls change with the seasons.
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Malfunction
09/08/19 9:40:04 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
never seen a legitimate reason to dislike kojima that didn't come off as childish or petty

P much. Loads of low taste nerds on CE love to call him a hack which says enough
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Leanaunfurled
09/08/19 9:42:24 AM
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I don't see the love for him, really. I don't dislike him by any means, I just don't get the fanboyism.

And you know those teenage girls that have that "lolol I'm so RaNdOm!! *sporkkkk*" personality people love to laugh and roll their eyes at? He reminds me of that, but for some reason people love it instead.
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K181
09/08/19 9:43:40 AM
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That's a slow jerk headline if I've ever seen one.
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Quorthon109
09/08/19 9:46:28 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Before you call him a genius, just remember that in his new Stranding simulator, your character has a bladder than must be manually emptied periodically.


Then the piss nutrients makes mushrooms grow
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Rika_Furude
09/08/19 10:44:42 PM
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Quorthon109 posted...
008Zulu posted...
Before you call him a genius, just remember that in his new Stranding simulator, your character has a bladder than must be manually emptied periodically.


Then the piss nutrients makes mushrooms grow

Which nearby wildlife eat and die from because they are toxic
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EffectAndCause
09/08/19 10:46:41 PM
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Hes only made 3 good games.
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Rika_Furude
09/08/19 10:50:45 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Hes only made 3 good games.

7 if you don't count mg1 and 2
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Darmik
09/08/19 10:51:29 PM
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Cory Balrog
Sam Lake
Sakurai
Toby Fox
Hideki Kamiya
Tim Schafer

Off the top of my head.

Of course there are several more out there who aren't anywhere near as public as the above guys who are all less publicized than Kojima. Clint Hocking for example.
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Rika_Furude
09/08/19 10:53:59 PM
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Darmik posted...
Cory Balrog
Sam Lake
Sakurai
Toby Fox
Hideki Kamiya
Tim Schafer

Off the top of my head.

Of course there are several more out there who aren't anywhere near as public as the above guys who are all less publicized than Kojima. Clint Hocking for example.

I dont know who those other people are but before we call Toby a genius I think we need to see 1 more game from him
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EffectAndCause
09/08/19 10:54:32 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
EffectAndCause posted...
Hes only made 3 good games.

3 if you don't count mg1 and 2

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Rika_Furude
09/08/19 10:54:49 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
EffectAndCause posted...
Hes only made 3 good games.

7 if you don't count mg1 and 2

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Darmik
09/08/19 10:55:23 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
I dont know who those other people are but before we call Toby a genius I think we need to see 1 more game from him


https://www.deltarune.com/
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Rika_Furude
09/08/19 11:09:24 PM
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Darmik posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
I dont know who those other people are but before we call Toby a genius I think we need to see 1 more game from him


https://www.deltarune.com/

Oh shit, forgot about that. Is it as good as undertale?
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Smashingpmkns
09/08/19 11:10:04 PM
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I dont think I'd put Toby Fox on the same level as all of those other minds. That's like putting ConcernedApe or Justin Standed next to Yoko Taro. Also Tim Schafer has been pretty inconsistent.
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KillerSlaw
09/08/19 11:11:04 PM
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Kojima is a genius, but he's also a really bad writer.

Honestly, everyone fucking blowing him has done nothing but make most of his later games a lot worse than they should be.
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solosnake
09/11/19 3:18:06 AM
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bump
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apolloooo
09/11/19 3:48:21 AM
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Chris Avellone
Tim Schafer
Hideaki Kamiya
Shu Takumi
Warren Spector
Harvey Smith
Tim Cain
Leonard Boyarsky
Richard Garriot
Yoko Taro
John Romero
George Ziets

and many many more that kojima can only dream of being.

kojima is shit, thiefing overrated hack
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SwaggieBeIIe462
09/11/19 3:51:53 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
EffectAndCause posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
EffectAndCause posted...
Hes only made 3 good games.

7 if you don't count mg1 and 2


They're all more memorable than the majority of the games in the entire industry though.
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