Poll of the Day > Do trans people have a medical illness?

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Unknow0059 09/08/19 1:24:21 PM #1:	Gaming Disorder is gaming addiction; being detrimental to your life. So, it's an extreme counterpart to normal gaming. Do transgenderism/transsexuality have a similar relationship with gender dysphoria, or Not? I've seen a trans person complaining on Discord that they were forced to leave a server because they were being harassed 'cuz people thought they were mentally ill. Of course, it's not right to have done that, especially if the harassed has some medical condition. But the question is, is it true? Obviously, it makes sense that you wouldn't admit to yourself you're mentally ill if you're not used to being self-honest and realistic. I think the kind of person to deny a medical condition (and I'm not saying trans have one; I'm questioning either way) is not used to doing either. Also, it makes sense that if you see something as an insult you won't give any credibility to it. So, what gives? Is it a medical disorder? Is it unhealthy? Doctors and transsexuals would be great to have in a discussion like this, but this is a gaming board after all - I can't expect that. So if you're not either, try to be open-minded. From my non-researched point of view, I don't think you can be transsexual in the literal sense of the word. You can't go beyond your physical sex (trans>transcendental). I'm aware that might be a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be transsexual, but if the word means anything other than that, then maybe use transgender instead. By the way, there's a difference between transgender and transsex. Also, I'm using the word "trans" alone as meaning "either of those two". I have a feeling the rabbit hole runs much, much deeper. That kind of annoys me. --- Steam, my home: steamcommunity.com/id/unk0059. I encourage you talk to me - out of the blue if need be - I'll definitely learn a thing or three. <cite>Unknow0059 posted [p:927149822] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Gaming Disorder is gaming addiction; being detrimental to your life. So, it's an extreme counterpart to normal gaming. Do transgenderism/transsexuality have a similar relationship with gender dysphoria, or Not? I've seen a trans person complaining on Discord that they were forced to leave a server because they were being harassed 'cuz people thought they were mentally ill. Of course, it's not right to have done that, especially if the harassed has some medical condition. But the question is, is it true? Obviously, it makes sense that you wouldn't admit to yourself you're mentally ill if you're not used to being self-honest and realistic. I think the kind of person to deny a medical condition (and I'm not saying trans have one; I'm questioning either way) is not used to doing either. Also, it makes sense that if you see something as an insult you won't give any credibility to it. So, what gives? Is it a medical disorder? Is it unhealthy? Doctors and transsexuals would be great to have in a discussion like this, but this is a gaming board after all - I can't expect that. So if you're not either, try to be open-minded. From my non-researched point of view, I don't think you can be transsexual in the literal sense of the word. You can't go beyond your physical sex (trans>transcendental). I'm aware that might be a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be transsexual, but if the word means anything other than that, then maybe use transgender instead. By the way, there's a difference between transgender and transsex. Also, I'm using the word "trans" alone as meaning "either of those two". I have a feeling the rabbit hole runs much, much deeper. That kind of annoys me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChronxDaHemphog 09/08/19 1:30:10 PM #2:	I once farted on the set of Blue Lagoon. <cite>ChronxDaHemphog posted [p:927150070] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>I once farted on the set of Blue Lagoon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dud 09/08/19 1:39:02 PM #3:	I don't care about Gaming Disorder, tell me more about Gamer Disorder --- YOU GOT THE DUD <cite>dud posted [p:927150484] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>I don't care about Gaming Disorder, tell me more about Gamer Disorder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 09/08/19 2:06:24 PM #4:	ChronxDaHemphog posted... I once farted on the set of Blue Lagoon. You have lived a life full of adventure and excitement. --- John Mellencamp said it best "Life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone." <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:927151841] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>ChronxDaHemphog posted...</cite> <quote>I once farted on the set of Blue Lagoon.</quote> You have lived a life full of adventure and excitement. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 09/08/19 3:27:09 PM #5:	oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:927155572] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 09/08/19 3:29:55 PM #6:	Meanwhile I cant get funding for dental. --- I'm right, as expected. <cite>zebatov posted [p:927155686] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile I cant get funding for dental. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 09/08/19 3:55:09 PM #7:	zebatov posted... Meanwhile I cant get funding for dental. most people can't, i don't see what your point is --- What? You thought ancient beings like us incapable of crying? <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:927156917] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile I cant get funding for dental. </quote> most people can't, i don't see what your point is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook 09/08/19 3:57:18 PM #8:	They have the highest suicide rates of any persons, I believe nearly 40% higher than non-trans people. I'm not saying anything negative about those who choose this lifestyle, but those are alarming statistics. --- Bells, bells, bells! <cite>TomNook posted [p:927157026] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>They have the highest suicide rates of any persons, I believe nearly 40% higher than non-trans people. I'm not saying anything negative about those who choose this lifestyle, but those are alarming statistics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 09/08/19 6:12:40 PM #9:	RoboXgp89 posted... oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s I wonder what's the story behind all this anger. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:927163376] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s</quote> I wonder what's the story behind all this anger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/08/19 6:47:03 PM #10:	TomNook posted... They have the highest suicide rates of any persons, I believe nearly 40% higher than non-trans people. I'm not saying anything negative about those who choose this lifestyle, but those are alarming statistics. Not all that surprising considering they feel like they are in the wrong body along with how terribly some members of society demonize them or treat them like pariahs when theyre open about how they feel --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:927164926] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>TomNook posted... </cite> <quote>They have the highest suicide rates of any persons, I believe nearly 40% higher than non-trans people. I'm not saying anything negative about those who choose this lifestyle, but those are alarming statistics.</quote> Not all that surprising considering they feel like they are in the wrong body along with how terribly some members of society demonize them or treat them like pariahs when theyre open about how they feel </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 09/08/19 7:06:18 PM #11:	Sarcasthma posted... RoboXgp89 posted... oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s I wonder what's the story behind all this anger. I wish he wouldve paid attention in school when they went over punctuation. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:927165760] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s</quote> I wonder what's the story behind all this anger.</quote> I wish he wouldve paid attention in school when they went over punctuation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/08/19 7:10:23 PM #12:	TomNook posted... They have the highest suicide rates of any persons, I believe nearly 40% higher than non-trans people. I'm not saying anything negative about those who choose this lifestyle, but those are alarming statistics. you usually get called a transphobe if you bring that up in such a way or you are just trying to start some trouble however it's something that a lot of people explain by stating that the reason that's the case is because people bully them more often than non trans-people but i think it's more than just that --- Booping In The Scoop <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:927165911] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>TomNook posted...</cite> <quote>They have the highest suicide rates of any persons, I believe nearly 40% higher than non-trans people. I'm not saying anything negative about those who choose this lifestyle, but those are alarming statistics.</quote> you usually get called a transphobe if you bring that up in such a way or you are just trying to start some trouble however it's something that a lot of people explain by stating that the reason that's the case is because people bully them more often than non trans-people but i think it's more than just that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/08/19 7:14:38 PM #13:	NightMareBunny posted... you usually get called a transphobe if you bring that up in such a way or you are just trying to start some trouble however it's something that a lot of people explain by stating that the reason that's the case is because people bully them more often than non trans-people but i think it's more than just that Has anyone ever cared what you think --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:927166092] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted... </cite> <quote>you usually get called a transphobe if you bring that up in such a way or you are just trying to start some trouble however it's something that a lot of people explain by stating that the reason that's the case is because people bully them more often than non trans-people but i think it's more than just that</quote> Has anyone ever cared what you think </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 09/08/19 7:15:17 PM #14:	Mead posted... NightMareBunny posted... you usually get called a transphobe if you bring that up in such a way or you are just trying to start some trouble however it's something that a lot of people explain by stating that the reason that's the case is because people bully them more often than non trans-people but i think it's more than just that Has anyone ever cared what you think Mead, if he wanted that kind of abuse hed just speak with his parents. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:927166120] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted... </cite> <quote>you usually get called a transphobe if you bring that up in such a way or you are just trying to start some trouble however it's something that a lot of people explain by stating that the reason that's the case is because people bully them more often than non trans-people but i think it's more than just that</quote> Has anyone ever cared what you think </quote> Mead, if he wanted that kind of abuse hed just speak with his parents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/08/19 7:16:52 PM #15:	RoboXgp89 posted... oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s i know this is a joke but i can't disagree that this is a touchy subject and one that you can't really question --- Booping In The Scoop <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:927166180] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s</quote> i know this is a joke but i can't disagree that this is a touchy subject and one that you can't really question</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 09/08/19 7:20:10 PM #16:	NightMareBunny posted... RoboXgp89 posted... oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s i know this is a joke but i can't disagree that this is a touchy subject and one that you can't really question Of course youre he only person that can decipher what the fuck hes trying to say. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:927166333] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>oh well you know doctors can do nothing wrong and they care very deeply about their own patients more so than their own family would so i would have to agree that if trans people want to use public money to fix something cosmetic than you're a bigot transphobe if you don't support that /s</quote> i know this is a joke but i can't disagree that this is a touchy subject and one that you can't really question</quote> Of course youre he only person that can decipher what the fuck hes trying to say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/08/19 7:23:15 PM #17:	Unknow0059 posted... Is it a medical disorder? Is it unhealthy? Doctors and transsexuals would be great to have in a discussion like this, but this is a gaming board after all - I can't expect that. So if you're not either, try to be open-minded. Uhhhhh.... If you're arguing that feeling that you were born in the wrong body is a form of body dymorphism or another disorder, obviously somebody who actually feels that way will think that it's not an image disorder. I'm not sure what you expect. Unless this topic isn't about a perceived image issue and instead is about whether being born in the wrong body is a medical issue. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to argue in this topic in general. Unknow0059 posted... By the way, there's a difference between transgender and transsex. Also, I'm using the word "trans" alone as meaning "either of those two". So basically you're not familiar with non-binary then? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:927166468] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Unknow0059 posted...</cite> <quote>Is it a medical disorder? Is it unhealthy? Doctors and transsexuals would be great to have in a discussion like this, but this is a gaming board after all - I can't expect that. So if you're not either, try to be open-minded.</quote> Uhhhhh.... If you're arguing that feeling that you were born in the wrong body is a form of body dymorphism or another disorder, obviously somebody who actually feels that way will think that it's not an image disorder. I'm not sure what you expect. Unless this topic isn't about a perceived image issue and instead is about whether being born in the wrong body is a medical issue. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to argue in this topic in general. Unknow0059 posted...</cite> <quote>By the way, there's a difference between transgender and transsex. Also, I'm using the word "trans" alone as meaning "either of those two".</quote> So basically you're not familiar with non-binary then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/08/19 7:25:34 PM #18:	hmmm i guess gamefaqs is broken huh? i don't see anymore replies but it says they keep coming to this topic... oh well suppose it's just a mystery --- Booping In The Scoop <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:927166568] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>hmmm i guess gamefaqs is broken huh? i don't see anymore replies but it says they keep coming to this topic... oh well suppose it's just a mystery</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/08/19 7:30:02 PM #19:	NightMareBunny posted... hmmm i guess gamefaqs is broken huh? i don't see anymore replies but it says they keep coming to this topic... oh well suppose it's just a mystery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjuHgYCxoKY" data-time=" And that kinda shit happens when you block half the board. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:927166755] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>hmmm i guess gamefaqs is broken huh? i don't see anymore replies but it says they keep coming to this topic... oh well suppose it's just a mystery</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjuHgYCxoKY" data-time=" And that kinda shit happens when you block half the board.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/08/19 7:32:57 PM #20:	honestly though this probably wasn't a good idea for a topic....gamefaqs isn't exactly known for civil discussions especially not on this part of the site --- Booping In The Scoop <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:927166887] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>honestly though this probably wasn't a good idea for a topic....gamefaqs isn't exactly known for civil discussions especially not on this part of the site</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 09/08/19 7:42:24 PM #21:	TheWitchMorgana posted... zebatov posted... Meanwhile I cant get funding for dental. most people can't, i don't see what your point is Read the post directly above mine. Tax-payers fund their operations but (we) cant get actual medical problems with our teeth corrected without paying out-of-pocket. --- I'm right, as expected. <cite>zebatov posted [p:927167311] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>TheWitchMorgana posted...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile I cant get funding for dental. </quote> most people can't, i don't see what your point is</quote> Read the post directly above mine. Tax-payers fund their operations but (we) cant get actual medical problems with our teeth corrected without paying out-of-pocket.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 09/08/19 7:47:16 PM #22:	NightMareBunny posted... hmmm i guess gamefaqs is broken huh? i don't see anymore replies but it says they keep coming to this topic... oh well suppose it's just a mystery Dude. Just shut the fuck up already. You keep saying some variation of that same phrase then days later will quote a person you were talking about. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:927167538] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>hmmm i guess gamefaqs is broken huh? i don't see anymore replies but it says they keep coming to this topic... oh well suppose it's just a mystery</quote> Dude. Just shut the fuck up already. You keep saying some variation of that same phrase then days later will quote a person you were talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 09/08/19 8:51:55 PM #23:	zebatov posted... TheWitchMorgana posted... zebatov posted... Meanwhile I cant get funding for dental. most people can't, i don't see what your point is Read the post directly above mine. Tax-payers fund their operations but (we) cant get actual medical problems with our teeth corrected without paying out-of-pocket. it doesnt have to be one or the other. you can advocate for dental coverage being funded without throwing anyone else under the bus. i cant get glasses funded and i need those to function day to day. all of these things can and should be covered. there are lots of ways our medical system is inefficient and trans people getting surgery is not the cause --- What? You thought ancient beings like us incapable of crying? <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:927170227] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>TheWitchMorgana posted...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile I cant get funding for dental. </quote> most people can't, i don't see what your point is</quote> Read the post directly above mine. Tax-payers fund their operations but (we) cant get actual medical problems with our teeth corrected without paying out-of-pocket.</quote> it doesnt have to be one or the other. you can advocate for dental coverage being funded without throwing anyone else under the bus. i cant get glasses funded and i need those to function day to day. all of these things can and should be covered. there are lots of ways our medical system is inefficient and trans people getting surgery is not the cause</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 09/08/19 8:54:34 PM #24:	getting surgery for what? it's a mental problem not a health problem it should never be covered. ever. period. unless they were born with 2 sex organs or something --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:927170349] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>getting surgery for what? it's a mental problem not a health problem it should never be covered. ever. period. unless they were born with 2 sex organs or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 09/08/19 9:01:09 PM #25:	you have google bro figure it out --- What? You thought ancient beings like us incapable of crying? <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:927170637] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>you have google bro figure it out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 09/08/19 9:04:02 PM #26:	I'm staying away from this one, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:927170752] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>I'm staying away from this one, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/08/19 9:34:04 PM #27:	RoboXgp89 posted... getting surgery for what? it's a mental problem not a health problem it should never be covered. ever. period. unless they were born with 2 sex organs or something A mental health problem is a health problem dude fact is that in certain cases, physical surgery or hormone regimens might be the best treatment --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:927171928] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>RoboXgp89 posted... </cite> <quote>getting surgery for what? it's a mental problem not a health problem it should never be covered. ever. period. unless they were born with 2 sex organs or something</quote> A mental health problem is a health problem dude fact is that in certain cases, physical surgery or hormone regimens might be the best treatment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 09/08/19 9:44:25 PM #30:	https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2JnuGqWEEkOiVW/giphy.webp --- John Mellencamp said it best "Life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone." <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:927172387] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2JnuGqWEEkOiVW/giphy.webp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 09/08/19 10:25:21 PM #31:	if a white man thinks he is black, is he crazy? --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:927174137] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>if a white man thinks he is black, is he crazy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 09/08/19 10:29:53 PM #32:	Krazy_Kirby posted... if a white man thinks he is black, is he crazy? You say some pretty stupid shit, do you know that? <cite>Cacciato posted [p:927174334] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>if a white man thinks he is black, is he crazy?</quote> You say some pretty stupid shit, do you know that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancer62 09/08/19 10:31:05 PM #34:	It's a really nasty birth defect from failure to androgenize the fetal brain (MTF) or inappropriately androgenize the fetal brain (FTM). Fortunately, pretty rare. Since we can"t change brains, treatment means changing the body to match the brain. --- If ballet was easy, it would be pointe-less <cite>dancer62 posted [p:927174386] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>It's a really nasty birth defect from failure to androgenize the fetal brain (MTF) or inappropriately androgenize the fetal brain (FTM). Fortunately, pretty rare. Since we can"t change brains, treatment means changing the body to match the brain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 09/08/19 10:32:01 PM #35:	Mead posted... RoboXgp89 posted... getting surgery for what? it's a mental problem not a health problem it should never be covered. ever. period. unless they were born with 2 sex organs or something A mental health problem is a health problem dude fact is that in certain cases, physical surgery or hormone regimens might be the best treatment when people are suicidal typically they don't get their sex organs removed unnecessarily as treatment but I could see how that might work... --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:927174430] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted... </cite> <quote>getting surgery for what? it's a mental problem not a health problem it should never be covered. ever. period. unless they were born with 2 sex organs or something</quote> A mental health problem is a health problem dude fact is that in certain cases, physical surgery or hormone regimens might be the best treatment </quote> when people are suicidal typically they don't get their sex organs removed unnecessarily as treatment but I could see how that might work...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknow0059 09/09/19 1:17:55 AM #36:	NightMareBunny posted... i know this is a joke but i can't disagree that this is a touchy subject and one that you can't really question Try to question and criticize everything. That's how you learn. You can and should. It's definitely a "sensitive" subject, but I believe that, for any subject considered sensitive, it only hurts the people that try to learn about it. Zeus posted... Uhhhhh.... If you're arguing that feeling that you were born in the wrong body is a form of body dymorphism or another disorder, obviously somebody who actually feels that way will think that it's not an image disorder. I'm not sure what you expect. Unless this topic isn't about a perceived image issue and instead is about whether being born in the wrong body is a medical issue. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to argue in this topic in general. So basically you're not familiar with non-binary then? Yes, it's whether "being born in the wrong body is a medical issue", or a thing that's possible to begin with. I'm not arguing a point, I'm questioning to try to come out with a better understanding. And, I'm literally not familiar with non-binary people, I know the term exists, but I don't fully comprehend the scope of its usage. TheWitchMorgana posted... you have google bro figure it out That's a good point. I kinda wanna get a better feel for it from talking with people before I delve into something I don't care enough to write papers on, though. Bugmeat posted... https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2JnuGqWEEkOiVW/giphy.webp You're allowed to be cynical. It's not intended to be bait, however. dancer62 posted... It's a really nasty birth defect from failure to androgenize the fetal brain (MTF) or inappropriately androgenize the fetal brain (FTM). Fortunately, pretty rare. Since we can"t change brains, treatment means changing the body to match the brain. I don't understand what that means. As far as I'm aware transitioning has nothing to do with fetuses. --- Steam, my home: steamcommunity.com/id/unk0059. I encourage you talk to me - out of the blue if need be - I'll definitely learn a thing or three. <cite>Unknow0059 posted [p:927179554] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite><quote> i know this is a joke but i can't disagree that this is a touchy subject and one that you can't really question</quote> Try to question and criticize everything. That's how you learn. You can and should. It's definitely a "sensitive" subject, but I believe that, for any subject considered sensitive, it only hurts the people that try to learn about it. Zeus posted...</cite><quote> Uhhhhh.... If you're arguing that feeling that you were born in the wrong body is a form of body dymorphism or another disorder, obviously somebody who actually feels that way will think that it's not an image disorder. I'm not sure what you expect. Unless this topic isn't about a perceived image issue and instead is about whether being born in the wrong body is a medical issue. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to argue in this topic in general. So basically you're not familiar with non-binary then?</quote> Yes, it's whether "being born in the wrong body is a medical issue", or a thing that's possible to begin with. I'm not arguing a point, I'm questioning to try to come out with a better understanding. And, I'm literally not familiar with non-binary people, I know the term exists, but I don't fully comprehend the scope of its usage. TheWitchMorgana posted...</cite> <quote>you have google bro figure it out</quote> That's a good point. I kinda wanna get a better feel for it from talking with people before I delve into something I don't care enough to write papers on, though. Bugmeat posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2JnuGqWEEkOiVW/giphy.webp</quote> You're allowed to be cynical. It's not intended to be bait, however. dancer62 posted...</cite> <quote>It's a really nasty birth defect from failure to androgenize the fetal brain (MTF) or inappropriately androgenize the fetal brain (FTM). Fortunately, pretty rare. Since we can"t change brains, treatment means changing the body to match the brain.</quote> I don't understand what that means. As far as I'm aware transitioning has nothing to do with fetuses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 09/09/19 1:19:05 AM #37:	@Krazy_Kirby https://urlzs.com/B6HMe --- I'm right, as expected. <cite>zebatov posted [p:927179581] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>@Krazy_Kirby https://urlzs.com/B6HMe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/09/19 1:32:18 AM #38:	Medical illness? I'd imagine some do just as some folk that are not trans do because you know that's life. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927179883] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Medical illness? I'd imagine some do just as some folk that are not trans do because you know that's life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trialia 09/09/19 2:31:12 AM #39:	Frankly, I'm not even getting into this in any depth, because it's already clear this topic is a hot mess with no relation to the reality of how things are for anyone considered gender non-conforming. There's no point in engaging genuinely with this kind of rubbish. So the only reason I am here is to tell you, OP, as much. And if I, being non-binary, feel like that about it, I honestly doubt you'll drag many - if any - of the members of the board who have actually transitioned into this "debate". As for the suicide rate among trans people, try checking out the murder rate first. It's a lot more revealing. Now, it's 0730 and I have other things to do today. Good morning. --- Trialia ~ unfaithful-mirror.net PSN: Trialia_X, Xaedere (100%) \| XBL: trialia, Noquelle (100%) <cite>Trialia posted [p:927180984] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Frankly, I'm not even getting into this in any depth, because it's already clear this topic is a hot mess with no relation to the reality of how things are for anyone considered gender non-conforming. There's no point in engaging genuinely with this kind of rubbish. So the only reason I am here is to tell you, OP, as much. And if I, being non-binary, feel like that about it, I honestly doubt you'll drag many - if any - of the members of the board who have actually transitioned into this "debate". As for the suicide rate among trans people, try checking out the murder rate first. It's a lot more revealing. Now, it's 0730 and I have other things to do today. Good morning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fierce_Deity_08 09/09/19 3:52:28 AM #40:	Not sure. I mean, I dont think we know enough scientifically what this phenomenon is all about. What is going on psychologically and physiologically that makes this happen? --- Official Fierce Deity in my own mind. GT: OnikaraStar, PSN: Onikara, NNID: OnikaraStar <cite>Fierce_Deity_08 posted [p:927182305] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Not sure. I mean, I dont think we know enough scientifically what this phenomenon is all about. What is going on psychologically and physiologically that makes this happen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sveksii 09/09/19 11:20:32 AM #41:	Unknow0059 posted... ...try to be open-minded. From my non-researched point of view, So you're rambling while not really even knowing what you're even talking about, and you're asking a controversial topic to a biased community that generally has no legitimate knowledge (asking joe sixpack, whose knowledge consists of random stuff he read on the internet, on the safety of nuclear energy isn't going to produce useful information) on the topic and expect a productive dialog? <cite>sveksii posted [p:927191298] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Unknow0059 posted... </cite> <quote>...try to be open-minded. From my non-researched point of view,</quote>So you're rambling while not really even knowing what you're even talking about, and you're asking a controversial topic to a biased community that generally has no legitimate knowledge (asking joe sixpack, whose knowledge consists of random stuff he read on the internet, on the safety of nuclear energy isn't going to produce useful information) on the topic and expect a productive dialog? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 09/09/19 11:21:49 AM #42:	lol lots of deleted posts, it seems, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:927191351] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>lol lots of deleted posts, it seems, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 09/09/19 11:57:25 AM #43:	Cacciato posted... NightMareBunny posted... hmmm i guess gamefaqs is broken huh? i don't see anymore replies but it says they keep coming to this topic... oh well suppose it's just a mystery Dude. Just shut the fuck up already. You keep saying some variation of that same phrase then days later will quote a person you were talking about. what's even stupider is he only says it in topics he didn't make which makes me think hes just using alts. --- // / <cite>likehelly posted [p:927192758] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Cacciato posted...</cite> <quote>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>hmmm i guess gamefaqs is broken huh? i don't see anymore replies but it says they keep coming to this topic... oh well suppose it's just a mystery</quote> Dude. Just shut the fuck up already. You keep saying some variation of that same phrase then days later will quote a person you were talking about.</quote> what's even stupider is he only says it in topics he didn't make which makes me think hes just using alts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trialia 09/09/19 12:28:25 PM #44:	Aculo posted... lol lots of deleted posts, it seems, ok? I can see 2 deleted posts, but there are a total of 23 posts missing from my view of this thread. Given what I expected of it to begin with & how many people I have blocked on GFAQs who would happily post transphobic crap in a thread like this, that's a few more than I had anticipated, but... not by much. --- Trialia ~ unfaithful-mirror.net PSN: Trialia_X, Xaedere (100%) \| XBL: trialia, Noquelle (100%) <cite>Trialia posted [p:927194027] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>lol lots of deleted posts, it seems, ok?</quote> I can see 2 deleted posts, but there are a total of 23 posts missing from my view of this thread. Given what I expected of it to begin with & how many people I have blocked on GFAQs who would happily post transphobic crap in a thread like this, that's a few more than I had anticipated, but... not by much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/09/19 12:30:40 PM #45:	Aculo posted... lol lots of deleted posts, it seems, ok? Not a shock. I think mods love these topics. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927194128] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>lol lots of deleted posts, it seems, ok?</quote> Not a shock. I think mods love these topics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 09/09/19 12:41:49 PM #46:	Mutilating your genitals and willingly becoming reliant on drugs to maintain a specific body image should not be considered a healthy lifestyle. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:927194625] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Mutilating your genitals and willingly becoming reliant on drugs to maintain a specific body image should not be considered a healthy lifestyle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/09/19 12:44:34 PM #47:	Ironically giving into this harmless "mental illness" probably is better for their mind as they will be living that bit more happy so I wouldn't call it unhealthy. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927194756] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Ironically giving into this harmless "mental illness" probably is better for their mind as they will be living that bit more happy so I wouldn't call it unhealthy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 09/09/19 1:12:55 PM #48:	wwinterj25 posted... Aculo posted... lol lots of deleted posts, it seems, ok? Not a shock. I think mods love these topics. true, they hit their quotas fast, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:927195975] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>lol lots of deleted posts, it seems, ok?</quote> Not a shock. I think mods love these topics.</quote> true, they hit their quotas fast, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 09/09/19 1:54:28 PM #49:	TomNook posted... They have the highest suicide rates of any persons, I believe nearly 40% higher than non-trans people. I'm not saying anything negative about those who choose this lifestyle, but those are alarming statistics. Doctors have alarming suicide rates as well. Double the general population. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:927197683] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>TomNook posted...</cite> <quote>They have the highest suicide rates of any persons, I believe nearly 40% higher than non-trans people. I'm not saying anything negative about those who choose this lifestyle, but those are alarming statistics.</quote> Doctors have alarming suicide rates as well. Double the general population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 09/09/19 2:05:59 PM #50:	I always took it as one of two things. 1. The brain was wired for them to be a the opposite sex 2. their body didn't grow the proper sex organ for their body. It is a genetic mess up either way. Doesn't mean they should be treated as less then human. But the conversaiton of how to handle the situation is needed. I also don't think we have the technology to properly handle the situation. We can't exactly switch someones organs and have them function as normal, you can't switch what you were born with unfortunately. I also feel some don't really have the problem and are just mentally unstable, want attention, or some other mental gymnastics reason. The question is how to tell these people apart from the ones that have a genetic issue. It also should be a lot more then just let people do what they want. Unfortunately we just lack the proper research as this is a new issue. --- MICHALECOLE is the greatest poster of all time I have literally watched him bang my mom before <cite>yutterh posted [p:927198194] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>I always took it as one of two things. 1. The brain was wired for them to be a the opposite sex 2. their body didn't grow the proper sex organ for their body. It is a genetic mess up either way. Doesn't mean they should be treated as less then human. But the conversaiton of how to handle the situation is needed. I also don't think we have the technology to properly handle the situation. We can't exactly switch someones organs and have them function as normal, you can't switch what you were born with unfortunately. I also feel some don't really have the problem and are just mentally unstable, want attention, or some other mental gymnastics reason. The question is how to tell these people apart from the ones that have a genetic issue. It also should be a lot more then just let people do what they want. Unfortunately we just lack the proper research as this is a new issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknow0059 09/09/19 2:18:58 PM #51:	Trialia posted... Frankly, I'm not even getting into this in any depth, because it's already clear this topic is a hot mess with no relation to the reality of how things are for anyone considered gender non-conforming. There's no point in engaging genuinely with this kind of rubbish. So the only reason I am here is to tell you, OP, as much. And if I, being non-binary, feel like that about it, I honestly doubt you'll drag many - if any - of the members of the board who have actually transitioned into this "debate". As for the suicide rate among trans people, try checking out the murder rate first. It's a lot more revealing. Now, it's 0730 and I have other things to do today. Good morning. I mean, okay. I appreciate you telling me that, though I would've rather you told me what "the reality" is, since that's what I'm asking to begin with. I'll assume the thing about suicide rate refers to other people's responses. That last part makes you seem upset or tired? It's unfortunate, it seems like you could've contributed. sveksii posted... So you're rambling while not really even knowing what you're even talking about, and you're asking a controversial topic to a biased community that generally has no legitimate knowledge (asking joe sixpack, whose knowledge consists of random stuff he read on the internet, on the safety of nuclear energy isn't going to produce useful information) on the topic and expect a productive dialog? Sure. Naive? Maybe. That's what mistakes are for. --- Steam, my home: steamcommunity.com/id/unk0059. I encourage you talk to me - out of the blue if need be - I'll definitely learn a thing or three. <cite>Unknow0059 posted [p:927198690] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Trialia posted...</cite> <quote>Frankly, I'm not even getting into this in any depth, because it's already clear this topic is a hot mess with no relation to the reality of how things are for anyone considered gender non-conforming. There's no point in engaging genuinely with this kind of rubbish. So the only reason I am here is to tell you, OP, as much. And if I, being non-binary, feel like that about it, I honestly doubt you'll drag many - if any - of the members of the board who have actually transitioned into this "debate". As for the suicide rate among trans people, try checking out the murder rate first. It's a lot more revealing. Now, it's 0730 and I have other things to do today. Good morning.</quote> I mean, okay. I appreciate you telling me that, though I would've rather you told me what "the reality" is, since that's what I'm asking to begin with. I'll assume the thing about suicide rate refers to other people's responses. That last part makes you seem upset or tired? It's unfortunate, it seems like you could've contributed. sveksii posted...</cite> <quote>So you're rambling while not really even knowing what you're even talking about, and you're asking a controversial topic to a biased community that generally has no legitimate knowledge (asking joe sixpack, whose knowledge consists of random stuff he read on the internet, on the safety of nuclear energy isn't going to produce useful information) on the topic and expect a productive dialog? </quote> Sure. Naive? Maybe. That's what mistakes are for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trialia 09/09/19 4:12:39 PM #52:	Unknow0059 posted... Trialia posted... Frankly, I'm not even getting into this in any depth, because it's already clear this topic is a hot mess with no relation to the reality of how things are for anyone considered gender non-conforming. There's no point in engaging genuinely with this kind of rubbish. So the only reason I am here is to tell you, OP, as much. And if I, being non-binary, feel like that about it, I honestly doubt you'll drag many - if any - of the members of the board who have actually transitioned into this "debate". As for the suicide rate among trans people, try checking out the murder rate first. It's a lot more revealing. Now, it's 0730 and I have other things to do today. Good morning. I mean, okay. I appreciate you telling me that, though I would've rather you told me what "the reality" is, since that's what I'm asking to begin with. I'll assume the thing about suicide rate refers to other people's responses. That last part makes you seem upset or tired? It's unfortunate, it seems like you could've contributed. Perhaps. But it is as I pointed out: this thread has already become a horrible mess. Admittedly, it was a bit nave of you to post that on GFAQs to begin with...! And on this particular forum, that was kind of inevitable for the most part. Which is why I don't want in. Anyway, try the link I gave you via PM, should be some help if you're genuinely interested. Re. the suicide/murder thing, yes, that was an ongoing sub-thread at the time I posted. It may still be (I am missing literally half the thread thanks to having a full ignore list!). And I was both upset (annoyed, rather!) and tired... --- Trialia ~ unfaithful-mirror.net PSN: Trialia_X, Xaedere (100%) \| XBL: trialia, Noquelle (100%) <cite>Trialia posted [p:927203783] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>Unknow0059 posted...</cite> <quote>Trialia posted...</cite> <quote>Frankly, I'm not even getting into this in any depth, because it's already clear this topic is a hot mess with no relation to the reality of how things are for anyone considered gender non-conforming. There's no point in engaging genuinely with this kind of rubbish. So the only reason I am here is to tell you, OP, as much. And if I, being non-binary, feel like that about it, I honestly doubt you'll drag many - if any - of the members of the board who have actually transitioned into this "debate". As for the suicide rate among trans people, try checking out the murder rate first. It's a lot more revealing. Now, it's 0730 and I have other things to do today. Good morning.</quote> I mean, okay. I appreciate you telling me that, though I would've rather you told me what "the reality" is, since that's what I'm asking to begin with. I'll assume the thing about suicide rate refers to other people's responses. That last part makes you seem upset or tired? It's unfortunate, it seems like you could've contributed.</quote> Perhaps. But it is as I pointed out: this thread has already become a horrible mess. Admittedly, it was a bit nave of you to post that on GFAQs to begin with...! And on this particular forum, that was kind of inevitable for the most part. Which is why I don't want in. Anyway, try the link I gave you via PM, should be some help if you're genuinely interested. Re. the suicide/murder thing, yes, that was an ongoing sub-thread at the time I posted. It may still be (I am missing literally half the thread thanks to having a full ignore list!). And I was both upset (annoyed, rather!) and tired...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 09/09/19 5:09:01 PM #53:	yutterh posted... 1. The brain was wired for them to be a the opposite sex Cargo cult science with no basis in reality. Also smacks of minority report world where we can determine behavior and desire by brain makeup. yutterh posted... 2. their body didn't grow the proper sex organ for their body. This is a real thing called androgen syndrome iirc and 99% of the modern trans community does not fall into this category. Big pharma wants to promote sex change surgery/drugs no matter the cost to individual mental health. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:927206390] in Do trans p... [t:77997897]...</cite> <quote>yutterh posted... </cite> <quote>1. The brain was wired for them to be a the opposite sex</quote> Cargo cult science with no basis in reality. Also smacks of minority report world where we can determine behavior and desire by brain makeup. yutterh posted... </cite> <quote>2. their body didn't grow the proper sex organ for their body.</quote> This is a real thing called androgen syndrome iirc and 99% of the modern trans community does not fall into this category. Big pharma wants to promote sex change surgery/drugs no matter the cost to individual mental health. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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