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YoshitoKikuchi
09/11/19 12:27:39 PM
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Well?
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I Like Toast
09/11/19 12:29:13 PM
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Wedge Antilles
09/11/19 12:29:48 PM
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Cause dying is for suckers.
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SwaggieBeIIe462
09/11/19 12:30:09 PM
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Boobs and likely a better butt too
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/11/19 12:30:37 PM
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Tifa is a far more interesting character to me.

Aerith has special heritage... and that is it.
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Zack_Attackv1
09/11/19 12:30:52 PM
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Because she is waaaay more nurturing than that western pandering piece of shit could ever hope to be.
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Zack_Attackv1
09/11/19 12:31:02 PM
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Dingydang166
09/11/19 12:31:57 PM
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I don't. Tifa sucks. In battle too. At least Aeris was kinda useful. Tifa sucked the whole game.
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paerarru
09/11/19 12:33:58 PM
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I've always though Aerith was nice but kinda boring.
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Zodd3224
09/11/19 12:34:27 PM
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Tifa by a landslide
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/11/19 12:34:52 PM
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Dingydang166 posted...
I don't. Tifa sucks. In battle too. At least Aeris was kinda useful. Tifa sucked the whole game.


The only thing different about everyone in battle is their limit breaks. Tifa's limit break is actually pretty good.
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Touch
09/11/19 12:35:20 PM
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Because I want Tifa to suplex my penis
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MarthGoomba
09/11/19 12:37:39 PM
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Aeris is cuter

Tifa's outfit is awful
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kilafer
09/11/19 12:39:13 PM
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I don't.
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bladegash
09/11/19 12:39:22 PM
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Tifa got boobs

Aeris is an alien

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Dingydang166
09/11/19 12:40:44 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
The only thing different about everyone in battle is their limit breaks. Tifa's limit break is actually pretty good.


How do you figure? She is AT BEST tied for last place. Red and Cait are the only people she could possibly compete with.
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Veggeta_MAX
09/11/19 12:40:56 PM
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We all know why, TC.
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hollow_shrine
09/11/19 12:41:41 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Tifa is a far more interesting character to me.

Aerith has special heritage... and that is it.

I do find Tifa more interesting because her conflicted relationship with Cloud is really rich.

But Aeris in the original title is more worldly and adventurous than later media portrayed her. Fiction doesn't really need another motherly sacrificial Madonna. So the fact that Aeris got flanderized into that is kind of sucky. Aeris isn't Betty. If anything, she's Veronica.

I don't love Tifa's reduction to 'saintly love martyr' either, but at least that softer side of her character was always present in FF7 alongside the tomboy, and later media doesn't forget that, sufficiently motivated, she will beat your ass.
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BLAKUboy
09/11/19 12:41:55 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Tifa's limit break is actually pretty good.

Tifa doesn't have Great Gospel though.
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EverDownward
09/11/19 12:47:07 PM
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She's not trying to get into Cloud's pants all the time, she genuinely cares for his well-being, she's the better designed girl between the two, she beats demons and monsters with her fists.
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hollow_shrine
09/11/19 12:49:18 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Tifa's limit break is actually pretty good.

Tifa doesn't have Great Gospel though.

How often did you use Great Gospel. I might have used it once, just to see it. And I had to grind that limit bar up to use it. It's pretty but not particularly useful given the hoops you'll jump through to use it.

At least Tifa's limit break isn't essentially an ornament.
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MC_BatCommander
09/11/19 1:23:10 PM
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Fit girls are the best

And she got big ol titties
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I Like Toast
09/11/19 1:27:20 PM
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Dingydang166 posted...


How do you figure? She is AT BEST tied for last place. Red and Cait are the only people she could possibly compete with.


Vincent is significantly worse (especially pre level 4 when he can elemental heal your enemy)and cait Sith will be worse by a light year since he insta kills your own team in a game with manual saves only

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BLAKUboy
09/11/19 1:27:26 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
How often did you use Great Gospel.

Would've seen a lot more use if Aerith didn't... you know.
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bobbaaay
09/11/19 2:23:30 PM
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Cloud/Barrett/Tifa or Cid

that's the dream team the entire game.
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Alteres
09/11/19 2:28:16 PM
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bobbaaay posted...
Cloud/Barrett/Tifa or Cid

that's the dream team the entire game.

Me, my girl (Tifa), and my dog.

Always.
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hollow_shrine
09/11/19 2:33:12 PM
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It's about maximizing those KotR and Mime materias. Because the conformer is mechanically broken and indisputably the best ultimate weapon, any 'best team comp' will have Yuffie. It will also have Cid because of his 3xAP growth lance, and probably Cloud for his 3xAP growth sword.
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BLAKUboy
09/11/19 2:35:10 PM
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Isn't Cloud forced on you outside of the brief time he's incapacitated (where Tifa and then Cid are forced on you)?
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hollow_shrine
09/11/19 2:37:13 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Isn't Cloud forced on you outside of the brief time he's incapacitated (where Tifa and then Cid are forced on you)?

Yes. Fortunately, he's also really good in just about every role, which is more than we can say for the rest of the cast who all lean towards physical or magical damage.
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garan
09/11/19 2:52:19 PM
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EverDownward posted...
She's not trying to get into Cloud's pants all the time, she genuinely cares for his well-being, she's the better designed girl between the two, she beats demons and monsters with her fists.


All that pretty much. I've always found Aeris annoying.
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Mako_Sharknado
09/11/19 3:00:08 PM
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I love punch girls
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DeadSite
09/11/19 3:00:31 PM
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yusiko
09/11/19 3:09:07 PM
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people tend to think that tifa was this no nonsense tomboy and aeris was a girly girl
but that wasnt true they only looked that way

in reality tifa was a girly girl who just looked like a no nonsense tomboy while aeris was a no nonsense tomboy who just looked like a girly girl

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Alteres
09/11/19 3:12:53 PM
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yusiko posted...
people tend to think that tifa was this no nonsense tomboy and aeris was a girly girl
but that wasnt true they only looked that way

in reality tifa was a girly girl who just looked like a no nonsense tomboy while aeris was a no nonsense tomboy who just looked like a girly girl

That was just a translation error.
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cjsdowg
09/11/19 3:16:30 PM
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Just as character and nothing more Yuffie; she my be a dirty rotten bandit, but you know what you are getting with her.

Tifa and Aerith held key information away from someone who clearly had messed up memories. That is dirty .
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MC_BatCommander
09/11/19 3:19:25 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Just as character and nothing more Yuffie; she my be a dirty rotten bandit, but you know what you are getting with her.

Tifa and Aerith held key information away from someone who clearly had messed up memories. That is dirty .


IIRC Aerith didn't hide anything from Cloud, she had no knowledge of the events at Nibelheim.
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cjsdowg
09/11/19 3:46:33 PM
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If I am wrong about Aerith then she goes in over Yuffie. I haven't played for a while so I was thinking she was hiding something about cloud's life from him too. Oh well if not I know for a fact Tifa was. It is kind of funny Barret's even questions the story and she is like shut up. ( well she didn't say that, but I can assumed she wanted to)
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OwlRammer
09/11/19 3:49:17 PM
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Tifa doesn't get people extremely mad at how you are supposed to spell/say her name
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hollow_shrine
09/11/19 4:10:09 PM
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Alteres posted...
That was just a translation error.

Effectively yes. Japanese Tifa uses a much more feminine register when speaking and the nature of the language allows you to express that constantly without even needing to slow the game pacing down for exposition into her inner thoughts. Another great example where this comes up is Red XIII, where the pronouns he uses to refer to himself when he doesn't think anyone is listening suggest he's actually a child. English audiences will learn that 70% of the way through disc 1 when it's flat out told to us in Cosmo Canyon. Japanese speakers realize this much earlier when they hear him speak in an unguarded moment (I believe you overhear him talking in his sleep).

Compared to Tifa Aeris is worldly, assertive, pretty quick on the uptake (she knows something's wrong with Cloud almost immediately from past experience), and probably the most emotionally mature party member. Barrett and Cid might be older, but they're both emotionally stunted by past traumas and this prevents them from being honest with themselves. Aeris is there for the adventure and the fun (and because she can't go home, because Shinra is hunting her), because she's all about keeping your head up and moving forward instead of beating yourself up mentally.

It's a cool bait and switch, since everything from the character archetype (healer) to her design (a pink dress) to her relation to the main character (apparent love interest) would have you think it's the other way around. Sadly forgotten by everything that came afterwards. But there is no inner conflict in Aeris, and that inner conflict is what makes Tifa interesting.

MC_BatCommander posted...
IIRC Aerith didn't hide anything from Cloud, she had no knowledge of the events at Nibelheim.

She didn't. But she knew his soldier story couldn't be 100% correct.
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PMarth2002
09/11/19 4:13:23 PM
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kilafer posted...
I don't.

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