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Orlando_Jordan
09/12/19 3:42:16 PM
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Yet these same people are angry when a police officer kills.
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Veggeta_MAX
09/12/19 3:45:01 PM
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whoa tag for the drama
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Evening_Dragon
09/12/19 3:45:37 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
whoa tag for the edge

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vigorm0rtis
09/12/19 3:45:45 PM
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Yeah, this isn't a thing.
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Orlando_Jordan
09/12/19 4:00:33 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Yeah, this isn't a thing.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78001038

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MabusIncarnate posted...
Batman is a gigantic pussy and doesn't kill people.

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DevsBro
09/12/19 4:21:36 PM
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Also, Batman doesn't drink.
Also, Batman eats his steak well done.
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vigorm0rtis
09/12/19 4:24:01 PM
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Orlando_Jordan posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
Yeah, this isn't a thing.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78001038

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MabusIncarnate posted...
Batman is a gigantic pussy and doesn't kill people.


"People."

Can only link to CE.

Whatever, man. Go outside.
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KillerSlaw
09/12/19 4:25:56 PM
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It's a by product of wanting to re-use villains in comic books. Even then, it really only becomes an issue when people like Joker start comitting mass murder multiple times.

Someone who is better versed in DC probably can correct me if I'm wrong, but Batmans no kill rule wasn't so heavily leaned upon until like the last 20 years right?
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garan
09/12/19 4:28:46 PM
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Batman sucks. His fanboys make him even worse. The real reason he doesn't kill any of the villains is because they are infinitely more interesting than he is.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/12/19 4:32:53 PM
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Batman doesnt kill so he can keep his weak ass villains around and look busy. Otherwise, the Justice League might want him to go against an actual threat.

Batman probably tells other superheroes that his villains have powers.
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NobleWill8
09/12/19 10:10:03 PM
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https://memestatic.fjcdn.com/pictures/Red+hood_0f1290_6456028.jpg
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Zikten
09/12/19 10:11:16 PM
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he's not weak, he is strong. it takes strong willpower to resist the urge to slaughter your enemies. the people calling him weak are immature and ignorant and don't get it
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Tupacrulez
09/12/19 10:16:06 PM
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Why do you people act like the decisions of a written fiction character don't have to take the future of that fictional writing into account?

If Batman killed his enemies, he'd be done in a week.

Same for literally any comic book character.
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AlisLandale
09/12/19 10:21:29 PM
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Most people didnt have a problem when cops killed that attempted mass shooter.

People have a problem when cops kill unarmed civilians. Not even your own apartment is safe from getting potentially murdered

Nobody wants Batman to kill Kite Man. They want him to kill the Joker, or Zsazz. Or at least not actively defend them. (Under the Red Hood lmao)
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DoubleDare
09/12/19 10:21:34 PM
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Pfft they clearly haven't watched Batman Returns.

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cjsdowg
09/12/19 10:26:07 PM
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This one does make Batman look better weak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm3Chp2u7HY" data-time="

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Like was stated in the link posted people are talking about the joker. Not man people are suggesting batman becomes the next Punisher.
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TheDreadedWave
09/12/19 10:39:56 PM
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It's almost like he's a comic book character
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Zikten
09/12/19 10:41:08 PM
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btw Joker was killed off originally. in his first ever appearance he died. they then retconned it to bring him back, and said "no wait. he didn't actually die". they had no idea Joker would be popular and intended at first for him to just be a one shot villain
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Sage JJ
09/12/19 10:41:50 PM
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Batman is one of the strongest superheroes there are. Not in strength or speed but name another superhero with no powers that's beat as many top tier and strongest villains plus superman as he has
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AlisLandale
09/12/19 10:44:26 PM
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Zikten posted...
btw Joker was killed off originally. in his first ever appearance he died. they then retconned it to bring him back, and said "no wait. he didn't actually die". they had no idea Joker would be popular and intended at first for him to just be a one shot villain


I dont think it happened quite that way. In the original story I think they changed their mind at the last minute and redid one of the panels to imply he survived.

But Golden Age Batman was something else lol. I honestly wouldnt mind a more pulpy noir take making a comeback.
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TheDreadedWave
09/12/19 10:45:04 PM
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Sage JJ posted...
Not in strength or speed but name another superhero with no powers that's beat as many top tier and strongest villains plus superman as he has

He has the only power that matters, plot armor
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Number090684
09/12/19 10:50:40 PM
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Sage JJ posted...
Batman is one of the strongest superheroes there are. Not in strength or speed but name another superhero with no powers that's beat as many top tier and strongest villains plus superman as he has


Nah, Batman does have one superpower and it's one of the greatest ones of all. Plot armor.
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Sage JJ
09/12/19 11:11:49 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
Zikten posted...
btw Joker was killed off originally. in his first ever appearance he died. they then retconned it to bring him back, and said "no wait. he didn't actually die". they had no idea Joker would be popular and intended at first for him to just be a one shot villain


I dont think it happened quite that way. In the original story I think they changed their mind at the last minute and redid one of the panels to imply he survived.

But Golden Age Batman was something else lol. I honestly wouldnt mind a more pulpy noir take making a comeback.


I'm ignorant to comics outside of some animated shows and movies. I know of alot of characters but not alternate versions. What's golden age batman?
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TheoryzC
09/12/19 11:13:23 PM
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Sage JJ posted...
What's golden age batman?

Basically Batmans first appearance up until the 60s or so
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Sage JJ
09/12/19 11:13:27 PM
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Number090684 posted...
Sage JJ posted...
Batman is one of the strongest superheroes there are. Not in strength or speed but name another superhero with no powers that's beat as many top tier and strongest villains plus superman as he has


Nah, Batman does have one superpower and it's one of the greatest ones of all. Plot armor.


Plot armor aside I think it comes down to how much of a tactician and genius he is. Yes some stuff is way exacerbated to work but I'm talking if we just focus on what's actually been done in general. Any other human come close to beating who Batman has?
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Sage JJ
09/12/19 11:16:11 PM
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TheoryzC posted...
Sage JJ posted...
What's golden age batman?

Basically Batmans first appearance up until the 60s or so


Mind giving insight on why the poster says he was something else? Did he mean comic times in general back then where they randomly retconned things or was it something with Batman in general? Sorry I've had 5 hours of sleep the last 2 days and done 30 hours in work in that time. I'm over tired and have 0 common sense but my brain won't sleep as I lay here. Comics just interest me
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AlisLandale
09/12/19 11:23:14 PM
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So Golden Age refers to comic books written in a certain time frame. (And theres no widely agreed upon exact dates, but the general ranges are mostly consistent) Outside of that it can mean a lot of different things depending on the title and publisher in question. Typically long running characters were written and treated differently depending on the market and society of the time they were in. In the Golden Age, Batman was fairly different than how hes known today.

The easiest way to describe Golden Age (30s/40s)Batman would be to point at the Tim Burton movies.

Silver Age Batman (50s/60s) is Adam West.

Idk if there are direct mainstream examples of other comic eras. (Bronze, Dark, etc)
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008Zulu
09/12/19 11:24:53 PM
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When you kill an opponent, they are dead, gone for good. You don't have to fight them any more. I let them live because it means I get to beat them up over and over again.

- Batman
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TheoryzC
09/12/19 11:27:38 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
So Golden Age refers to comic books written in a certain time frame. Outside of that it can mean a lot of different things depending on the title and publisher in question. Typically long running characters were written and treated differently depending on the market and society of the time they were in. In the Golden Age, Batman was fairly different than how hes known today.

The easiest way to describe Golden Age (30s/40s)Batman would be to point at the Tim Burton movies.

Silver Age Batman (50s/60s) is Adam West.

Idk if there are direct mainstream examples of other comic eras. (Bronze, Dark, etc)

Not to mention Golden Age Batman had no problem killing and used guns like it was nothing
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Sage JJ
09/12/19 11:30:52 PM
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TheoryzC posted...
AlisLandale posted...
So Golden Age refers to comic books written in a certain time frame. Outside of that it can mean a lot of different things depending on the title and publisher in question. Typically long running characters were written and treated differently depending on the market and society of the time they were in. In the Golden Age, Batman was fairly different than how hes known today.

The easiest way to describe Golden Age (30s/40s)Batman would be to point at the Tim Burton movies.

Silver Age Batman (50s/60s) is Adam West.

Idk if there are direct mainstream examples of other comic eras. (Bronze, Dark, etc)

Not to mention Golden Age Batman had no problem killing and used guns like it was nothing


Holy shit I thought you were trolling so I did a quick Google search and this mother fucked straight up strangled people?!
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Paragon21XX
09/12/19 11:33:44 PM
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Zikten posted...
he's not weak, he is strong. it takes strong willpower to resist the urge to slaughter your enemies. the people calling him weak are immature and ignorant and don't get it

For each person that the supervillain kills after his life was originally spared by the superhero, the superhero is essentially responsible for each and every one of those deaths and should be ran out of town by those that survive the victims. By killing the supervillain after they kill at least one innocent person, those other lives may never have been lost.

But no, hypocritical superheroes would rather have the shitty "moral" of "it's better for mass murderers to stay alive at the risk of them being able to kill dozens or hundreds of innocents when they escape prison yet again than to make sure they never can kill again by just killing the supervillain after they kill even once."

Sage JJ posted...
TheoryzC posted...
AlisLandale posted...
So Golden Age refers to comic books written in a certain time frame. Outside of that it can mean a lot of different things depending on the title and publisher in question. Typically long running characters were written and treated differently depending on the market and society of the time they were in. In the Golden Age, Batman was fairly different than how hes known today.

The easiest way to describe Golden Age (30s/40s)Batman would be to point at the Tim Burton movies.

Silver Age Batman (50s/60s) is Adam West.

Idk if there are direct mainstream examples of other comic eras. (Bronze, Dark, etc)

Not to mention Golden Age Batman had no problem killing and used guns like it was nothing


Holy shit I thought you were trolling so I did a quick Google search and this mother fucked straight up strangled people?!

That was before Batman became the embodiment of hypocrisy.
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Sage JJ
09/12/19 11:39:23 PM
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Nall posted...
What I dont get is if Batman has a no killing rule then fine, but why cant he just paralyze his enemies?


Because he already knows once he crosses a certain line he will never stop taking it to whatever limit is necessary. He obviously enjoys being violent that's why he is always breaking bones and hurting any bad guy from thugs to bosses. If he paralyzed swine once he would do it again and eventually kill someone by accident or purpose. It's like those who enjoy drinking or non hardcore drugs like pot or acid. They enjoy the high so much they keep doing it but don't fuck with anything slightly hardcore cause they enjoy being high so much they would keep going back and further.
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