Current Events > hell yeah Disney is putting Fox movies in their vault and killing indie theaters

(+) Yeah! (+)

here's three paragraphs pulled from the piece with a tl;dr at the end

https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html

Fox classics are going into the vault as well, for reasons the company wont publicly explain or justify. And Disneys vaultification of Fox titles is bad news for movie theaters that depend on repertory screenings to shore up their increasingly shaky bottom lines. The decision to broaden Disneys artificial scarcity tactic to include thousands of movies released by a onetime rival is a wounding blow to a swath of theatrical venues that used to be able to show them, and where film buffs were able to see them with an audience.

In the preceding few months, Neff had heard rumblings in his Google group of film programmers that Disney was about to start treating older Fox titles as they do older Disney titles making them mostly unavailable to for-profit theaters. More and more film programmers and theater managers were reporting that they had suddenly and cryptically been told by their studio contacts that Foxs back catalogue was no longer available to show. Some got calls informing them that an existing booking had been revoked.

More than one exhibition professional contacted for this article speculated that Disneys overall goal is to claim as many screens at a theater as possible for its newer titles, even if some of them are packing the house but others are selling just a handful of tickets per show. A former theater manager for a major chain, who asked not to be identified in this piece, says, It seems short-sighted, you know? But they do it, I think, just to keep a Sony title out, to keep a Universal title out. The Fox freeze out, he speculates, may be an extension of that tactic: Disney considers any screen thats taken up by an older movie, even one thats owned by Disney, to be a screen that could be showing the new Marvel or Star Wars title instead. Or showing Orangutans 4 to an audience of three.

tl;dr - only non-profit theaters, museums, and specially approved anniversary screenings will be allowed for fox titles. if you are a for-profit theater that shows first-run titles of any kind (most indie theaters), you will not be permitted to screen them. presumably because disney wants you to subscribe to their streaming services. blech!
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They can do what they want with their IP doesn't mean I have to like it
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to be honest, I'd be fine if theaters went away and all new movies were available to stream at first release. I don't really like theaters. I only go cause I can't wait 3 or 4 more months to see a movie

Capitalism was a mistake

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Are there even any new fox movies of value coming out?
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I go to a movie theater about once every 2-3 years. I usually just wait for Blu-ray.
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Yeah but were now getting X-Men in the MCU so whatevs. Now they gotta buy Sony Pictures so they can get Spider-Man again.
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PatrickMahomes posted...

Are there even any new fox movies of value coming out?

Fox Searchlight seems to be operating the same as it did before the Disney purchase.

However it is my understanding according to a programmer I follow on Twitter that booking Searchlight titles (such as Oscar hopefuls Jojo Rabbit and A Hidden Life) is becoming harder to do as well. Or at least that the charges for booking are going way up. Will try to find the thread in a second.
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I dont go to the theatre, but I dont necessarily want these businesses to die

Thats not an option

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Capitalism was a mistake

i honestly cannot tell if the first replies were just their gut reactions or they read my poll first and responded accordingly.

but yeah i'm no master of economics however it is my understanding that capitalism is great to jumpstart an economy but eventually you will reach 'late stage capitalism' where all money and power is consolidated within the hands of a few, which is bad!!!! clearly!!!
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are fox and disney at war?
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Zithers posted...

PatrickMahomes posted...

Are there even any new fox movies of value coming out?

Fox Searchlight seems to be operating the same as it did before the Disney purchase.

However it is my understanding according to a programmer I follow on Twitter that booking Searchlight titles (such as Oscar hopefuls Jojo Rabbit and A Hidden Life) is becoming harder to do as well. Or at least that the charges for booking are going way up. Will try to find the thread in a second.

@PatrickMahomes

https://twitter.com/thejoshl/status/1187061965727948802

He's actually responded to Bob Iger's "bullshit" comments about Scorsese and Coppola before it spirals into him talking about Disney withholding stuff from his theater.
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"The Vault" has always been a stupid and anti-consumer gimmick. "Buy that DVD now because it's going back in the Vault for another 10 years!"
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BeyondWalls posted...

"The Vault" has always been a stupid and anti-consumer gimmick. "Buy that DVD now because it's going back in the Vault for another 10 years!"

their IP they can do what they want with it etc
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BeyondWalls posted...

"The Vault" has always been a stupid and anti-consumer gimmick. "Buy that DVD now because it's going back in the Vault for another 10 years!"

Agreed. Disney needs to be hit with an anti-trust investigation asap.

It would suck if theaters went down under. They're the ultimate way to watch movies imo.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Capitalism was a mistake

that's right

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Imagine if we had functioning government or laws for Anti Trust

Ms
Disney
Facebook
Amazon

they all should be broken up
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garan posted...

BeyondWalls posted...

"The Vault" has always been a stupid and anti-consumer gimmick. "Buy that DVD now because it's going back in the Vault for another 10 years!"

Agreed. Disney needs to be hit with an anti-trust investigation asap.

How does this have anything to do with antitrust laws?
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SK8T3R215 posted...

How does this have anything to do with antitrust laws?

i guess technically it doesnt but the fact that Disney owns so much of the movie industry nowadays that they can essentially bully any movie theater out of business if they dont play by their rules is not a good thing

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garan posted...

Agreed. Disney needs to be hit with an anti-trust investigation asap.

They actually already were and courts ruled in their favor

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TheGoldenEel posted...

SK8T3R215 posted...

How does this have anything to do with antitrust laws?

i guess technically it doesnt but the fact that Disney owns so much of the movie industry nowadays that they can essentially bully any movie theater out of business if they dont play by their rules is not a good thing

They don't even have a majority of the box office industry. They generate about 30%~ of box office revenues.
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what is "the vault"
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