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UnfairRepresent 10/27/19 7:22:21 PM #1: |
Its almost Halloween, and that means some atheist student groups on college campuses are erecting a Graveyard of the Gods, reminding students of all the deities who were once worshiped, only to be forgotten.
The purpose is to get students thinking about when their God will join the ranks of the dead. The Secular Student Alliance at the University of Texas at San Antonio shared some pictures of what they put up on their campus:Its a wonderful way to get people to think critically about their own beliefs. The group told me the display will be up through the end of the week on the Sombrilla Lawn. And as they wrote on their post, the response so far has been overwhelmingly positive. Anyone interested in creating their own graveyard can find resources at the Secular Student Alliances website. Interesting comment here by E.A. Blair: In a mythology class, a fundie student (we called em Jesus freaks back then) asked me why I referred to the deities in the myths in the present tense (for example, I said things like Zeus is the king of the Olympian gods instead of saying was). My reply was that all deities are neither more nor less real and existing now than they were in ancient times. It took him a while, though, to figure out that I had just dismissed his deity as an ancient myth. A number of others in the class, though, including the teacher, caught it right away and had a nice smile at the freaks expense. So I guess this swings the door open to all religious believers, your religion probably won't die any time soon due to the internet and global communication and the like. But for the sake of argument, let's say for a fact that you knew within 700 years time your religion would no longer be practiced and your beliefs/holy texts would only be recorded alongside myths/history classes like the religions and cultures of old. How does that make you feel and reflect on your beliefs today? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MasterGakke 10/27/19 7:23:28 PM #2: |
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MedeaLysistrata 10/27/19 7:23:42 PM #3: |
A CEman under a certain existential flag demolished my old god, Avatar of Bacchus
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Colorahdo 10/27/19 7:25:17 PM #4: |
I'm an atheist and I cringe at people who identify as "Atheists"
So you don't believe -- go on with your life. Why are you trying to convince others? Let them believe in Santa it doesn't affect you --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 10/27/19 7:27:37 PM #5: |
When non-religion becomes a religion.
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BewmHedshot 10/27/19 7:28:02 PM #6: |
Colorahdo posted...
I'm an atheist and I cringe at people who identify as "Atheists" Think of all the time wasted by practitioners of religion, and the damage their religious beliefs do to the political landscape of the world. --- Cavaliers: ONCE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 10/27/19 7:29:03 PM #7: |
That's kinda a neat idea tbh. Could be very educational, so long as it's done in good faith. Of course it's probably only being done to make theists butthurt, but whatever.
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Distant_Rainbow 10/27/19 7:30:38 PM #8: |
Colorahdo posted...
I'm an atheist and I cringe at people who identify as "Atheists" I refuse to call those idiots atheists. Atheist is too broad a term for them and they stain the way in how the world conceives of atheists as a whole. They're 'antitheists', and they're every bit as a nutjob as religious extremists who push their beliefs and flaunt them. --- Link meets Fire Emblem in CYOA: Tales of Elibe! Come read, and find out what happens! Click below! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/468480-fire-emblem/77111212 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 10/27/19 7:31:12 PM #9: |
I agree that calling them "forgotten" is pretty stupid
Regarded as myths and fairy tales, sure. But not forgotten --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 10/27/19 7:31:39 PM #10: |
They can reserve a spot for the God of Christianity if they like. It'll go unfilled indefinitely.
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hockeybub89 10/27/19 7:31:50 PM #11: |
They're not wrong. Everyone is always so sure of their gods and nations will fucking go to war or mistreat non-believers at the behest of their religion. And over and over, they are wrong. 99.9% of religions have to be wrong and who's to say any human will ever follow the right gods the right way if they never show themselves. You're living your life, and possibly telling others how to live theirs, on nothing but a probably wrong guess.
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Colorahdo 10/27/19 7:32:12 PM #12: |
BewmHedshot posted...
Colorahdo posted...I'm an atheist and I cringe at people who identify as "Atheists" Worrying about this is a waste of MY time, tbh --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 10/27/19 7:32:47 PM #13: |
Colorahdo posted...
I'm an atheist and I cringe at people who identify as "Atheists" religion made people think being gay was a conscious choice to "live in sin" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 10/27/19 7:33:47 PM #14: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
My reply was that all deities are neither more nor less real and existing now than they were in ancient times. Ironically this is pretty close to how Tolkien converted C.S. Lewis from being an atheist. He talks about it in a letter here http://emp.byui.edu/wardd/honors221/concepts/myth.htm Although Tolkien did become annoyed by how religious Lewis became, specifically saying he went way too hard on Aslan. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/27/19 7:34:21 PM #15: |
Colorahdo posted...
I'm an atheist So... you cringe at yourself? So you don't believe -- go on with your life. Why are you trying to convince others? Let them believe in Santa it doesn't affect you Because it does effect them mostly. Not trying to pick on America (who aren't even the top 10 worst offenders) but since this board is American I'll use them as an example. Opposition to homosexuality, climate change, stem-cell research, abortion, immigration, womens rights etc. Sure not exclusively religious obviously but you have to lie to pretend there isn't a massive overlap making the people who oppose said examples being motivated by their religion. The dudes who flew planes into thw twin towers did so because of their religion. The Nazis who threw millions of people into Gas Chambers believed they were doing Gods work. Right now even on CE there is a topic where people are calling for the extrinction of the Isreali population because they are Muslims and not Jews. A non Christian cannot be president in the US. We have literally thousands of preists from the Catholic Church raping children for decades and getting away with it that still hasn't stopped today. We have the 10 commandments on courthouse walls, in the pledge of allegance, on US Money despite a seperation of Church and State. The idea of "It doesn't effect you." just seems dishonest. Belief in Santa isn't creating/influencing political policy and global/economic/war stances. A good cringy video to sum it up is this one: My own father hated gays and transgenders because Christianity told him too until I convinced him otherwise. Even theists, Christians, Muslims, Jews should be very nervous of the power religion has, both historically and today. "It doesn't effect you." seems like such a lazy and intellectually dishonest stance --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/27/19 7:35:58 PM #16: |
Colorahdo posted...
BewmHedshot posted...Colorahdo posted...I'm an atheist and I cringe at people who identify as "Atheists" People have been discriminated against or killed for thousands of years specifically for not practicing the right religion or doing (even unintentional) things that insult the deity of choice. "It doesn't affect anybody" has literally never been true. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 10/27/19 7:40:06 PM #17: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
When non-religion becomes a religion. --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 10/27/19 8:05:29 PM #20: |
It's no cringier than people preaching at students on campus grounds.
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KiwiTerraRizing 10/27/19 8:07:19 PM #21: |
How can religious people not at least take pause at this? All these other gods, theyre fake but mine, mine is real!
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Darmik 10/27/19 8:09:52 PM #22: |
If Kratos isn't there yet then the Christian God should watch his back.
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Dragonblade01 10/27/19 8:09:57 PM #23: |
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
How can religious people not at least take pause at this? All these other gods, theyre fake but mine, mine is real! Because most of the lasting religions explicitly tell followers that very thing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvenSpoonier 10/27/19 8:13:55 PM #24: |
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
How can religious people not at least take pause at this? All these other gods, theyre fake but mine, mine is real! Because they don't care what other religions have been doing. Failed attempts to lead people astray? Why bother counting them? --- "Playing a game for its graphics is like watching pornography for the story." - Kadiroth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 10/27/19 8:14:00 PM #25: |
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
How can religious people not at least take pause at this? All these other gods, theyre fake but mine, mine is real! Over 4.2 billion people believe in the same God. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 10/27/19 8:29:11 PM #26: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...How can religious people not at least take pause at this? All these other gods, theyre fake but mine, mine is real! Not really though --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 10/27/19 8:33:49 PM #27: |
Yes really. They believe in the God from the Hebrew Bible.
They have different interpretations on his truth, but saying they believe in different gods is like saying Baptists and Mormons believe in a different god. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wetterdew 10/27/19 8:33:52 PM #28: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
When non-religion becomes a religion. It's not a religion, atheists don't believe in a higher power. It's just a silly display poking fun at religion that you people are taking way too seriously. --- Touch fuzzy get dizzy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 10/27/19 8:36:33 PM #29: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Yes really. They believe in the God from the Hebrew Bible. If you don't worship Jesus as God, you necessarily do not believe in the same God as Christians. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/19 8:37:13 PM #30: |
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Prestoff 10/27/19 8:40:30 PM #31: |
lilORANG posted...
That's kinda a neat idea tbh. Could be very educational, so long as it's done in good faith. Of course it's probably only being done to make theists butthurt, but whatever. This tbh --- It's what all true warriors strive for! Switch FC: SW-0575-4758-7878 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 10/27/19 8:46:45 PM #32: |
Christians and Muslims both believe in Jesus. Muslims believe he is only a prophet, whereas Christians believe in a three-part God. I think the trinity is sort of contrived but they basically believe in three Gods, YHWH, Jesus and also the Holy Spirit (or maybe the Holy Spirit is generally considered lesser than the other two? I don't really know).
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Kami_no_Kami 10/27/19 8:58:56 PM #33: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...How can religious people not at least take pause at this? All these other gods, theyre fake but mine, mine is real! Mmmm... do they though? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 10/27/19 9:14:12 PM #34: |
Muslims and Jews believe in the same exact God. The Christian Old Testament is the Jewish bible. Jesus is a prophet in Islam. And all three share the figures of Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc.
If you want to say that Christians believing Jesus is God means that they don't all believe in the same YHWH figure, you're lying to yourself to forward your agenda. Clearly "All these other gods, theyre fake but mine, mine is real!" is a huge oversimplification. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 10/27/19 9:18:20 PM #35: |
Just scan movies and games and stuff and list off every god that died. That'd be neat imo.
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defauIt 10/27/19 9:18:51 PM #36: |
How many scientific theories have been proven wrong?
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DarkChozoGhost 10/27/19 11:38:23 PM #37: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Muslims and Jews believe in the same exact God. The Christian Old Testament is the Jewish bible. Jesus is a prophet in Islam. And all three share the figures of Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. Yeah, but 4.19 billion of those people think that 4.189 billion of the others aren't going to heaven --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 10/27/19 11:55:00 PM #38: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...Muslims and Jews believe in the same exact God. The Christian Old Testament is the Jewish bible. Jesus is a prophet in Islam. And all three share the figures of Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. I don't think that's true, especially not on that scale. There are definitely fundamentalists who believe "believe what I believe if you want to go to heaven" or whatever equivalent, but I think most people generally believe "be a good person and you'll be fine". --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JoeDangIt 10/28/19 12:43:01 AM #39: |
Those are some lazy looking graves... Good idea but poor execution.
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DarkChozoGhost 10/28/19 12:46:20 AM #40: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
but I think most people generally believe "be a good person and you'll be fine". Nope. That's a very small percentage. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WerewolfPaws 10/28/19 12:47:44 AM #41: |
Well thats one way of pwning the opposition.
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HylianFox 10/28/19 12:48:34 AM #42: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...but I think most people generally believe "be a good person and you'll be fine". Really, 99% of Christians believe that if you don't say the exact magic words and really really mean it, you'll go to Hell no matter what --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sphyx 10/28/19 1:42:07 AM #43: |
Just comes across as smarmy, self impressed and completely unneccessary.
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ThyCorndog 10/28/19 1:53:18 AM #44: |
DarkChozoGhost posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...but I think most people generally believe "be a good person and you'll be fine". I thought only protestants say you have to specifically accept jesus as your god to go to heaven. catholics have deeds take priority I think and I'm pretty sure orthodox aren't far off --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 10/28/19 1:57:04 AM #45: |
My god is the sun
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berlyman101 10/28/19 1:59:36 AM #46: |
Sphyx posted...
Just comes across as smarmy, self impressed and completely unneccessary. Yeah, well, so is religion. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sphyx 10/28/19 2:29:56 AM #47: |
If that's a justification, it's a shitty one.
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viewmaster_pi 10/28/19 3:00:07 AM #48: |
Sphyx posted...
If that's a justification, it's a shitty one. Yeah, well, so is religion. --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Illuminoius 10/28/19 3:05:25 AM #49: |
i'm surprised how rarely i see atheists actually try making this point
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Shablagoo 10/28/19 3:06:32 AM #50: |
In a mythology class, a fundie student (we called em Jesus freaks back then) asked me why I referred to the deities in the myths in the present tense (for example, I said things like Zeus is the king of the Olympian gods instead of saying was). My reply was that all deities are neither more nor less real and existing now than they were in ancient times. It took him a while, though, to figure out that I had just dismissed his deity as an ancient myth. A number of others in the class, though, including the teacher, caught it right away and had a nice smile at the freaks expense. And then everyone clapped. And then he became Prom King. They worshipped him as a GOD...god...god....god.... --- "Bond, you can't just blame everything bad in the world on the government" -wiiking96 "why cant I?" -Bond_543 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 10/28/19 3:06:58 AM #51: |
Zeus is dead? Oh man, no wonder he hasn't been answering my prayers. Whelp, I'm off to bone a goose in his honour.
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