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DirtBasedSoap
10/28/19 2:26:28 PM
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if someone is expressing trump disapproval, just say Orange man bad and claim they have TDS. It completely nullifies any sort of argument they thought they had and you can just totally pwn the libs with zero repercussions!!!!
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helIy
10/28/19 2:27:40 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
TDS

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Ferarri619
10/28/19 2:52:59 PM
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Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's a phrase Conservatives use to suggest that liberals only use ad-hominem attacks against Trump and are never using logic etc.
I don't agree with it though. I mean, both sides have their uneducated ad hominem types.
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Mead
10/28/19 2:57:55 PM
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the funny thing is that parroting phrases like orange man bad or we got him this time! in lieu of any critical thinking or actual debate, is something an actual npc would do
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trodi_911
10/28/19 5:26:08 PM
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I wonder if it really works.

I disapprove of Trump and what he stands for.
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Zeus
10/28/19 5:42:07 PM
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Or, you know, you could just look at the facts and watch the criticism fall apart faster than a clip of Trump dumping fish food into a koi pond.
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OhhhJa
10/28/19 5:52:16 PM
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TDS is a very real phenomenon though. Some of these people are seriously obsessed
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papercup
10/28/19 5:56:44 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
TDS


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DirtBasedSoap
10/28/19 5:57:31 PM
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trodi_911 posted...
I wonder if it really works.

I disapprove of Trump and what he stands for.

dohohoh, sounds like you have a seriously bad case of TDS. you need to stop listening to everything the media tells you
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ParanoidObsessive
10/28/19 6:04:51 PM
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Sadly, "orange man bad" is only slightly worse than most of what the people complaining about Trump are vomiting out themselves, so all you're really doing is just complaining about two idiots metaphorically slap-fighting anyway.

The only way to really win one of those arguments is to not be one of the idiots involved in it in the first place.
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trodi_911
10/28/19 6:13:04 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
trodi_911 posted...
I wonder if it really works.

I disapprove of Trump and what he stands for.

dohohoh, sounds like you have a seriously bad case of TDS. you need to stop listening to everything the media tells you

Oh shit. Maybe Trump isn't so bad after all.

Wow. It does work.
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papercup
10/28/19 6:45:12 PM
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Wait do trumplets really say Trump critics are "deranged"? Do they just have 0 self awareness?
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BlackScythe0
10/28/19 6:47:33 PM
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TDS are one of those things I've just never understood.

It's a derangement to see the world around you.

It's just so crazy to me because after all this time, after all the things he has done in office, it requires some form of derangement to still support such an objectively bad president. I'm pretty sure he's going to earn a spot at the second worst president in US history.

If TDS is real, it's a term for his supporters not those who exist in the real world.
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Ferarri619
10/28/19 6:50:42 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
second worst


Who was the first?
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BlackScythe0
10/28/19 6:55:44 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
second worst


Who was the first?


The guy who botched reconstruction. Don't recall his name now, I just know I've looked up the list in the past. Most of the guys listed as the "worst" are basically just there because they were too weak to stop the civil war.
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darkknight109
10/28/19 6:56:11 PM
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...seriously, does nobody realize that TDS is, like, the 18th incarnation of a conservative talking point that's now almost 20 years old?

The original "Derangement Syndrome" was "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - it's not a real thing and never was. It was a conservative columnist's tongue-in-cheek joke aimed at anti-Bush liberals; it was never meant to be taken seriously.

Naturally, morons took the ball and ran with it and haven't shut up about it since.
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papercup
10/28/19 7:00:10 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
...seriously, does nobody realize that TDS is, like, the 18th incarnation of a conservative talking point that's now almost 20 years old?

The original "Derangement Syndrome" was "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - it's not a real thing and never was. It was a conservative columnist's tongue-in-cheek joke aimed at anti-Bush liberals; it was never meant to be taken seriously.

Naturally, morons took the ball and ran with it and haven't shut up about it since.


I try not to listen to the insane ramblings of conservative pundits, so I've never heard of it.
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BlackScythe0
10/28/19 7:01:10 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
...seriously, does nobody realize that TDS is, like, the 18th incarnation of a conservative talking point that's now almost 20 years old?

The original "Derangement Syndrome" was "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - it's not a real thing and never was. It was a conservative columnist's tongue-in-cheek joke aimed at anti-Bush liberals; it was never meant to be taken seriously.

Naturally, morons took the ball and ran with it and haven't shut up about it since.


I haven't been called deranged until... maybe a year into the Trump presidency. Then it just got spammed non-stop by people who clearly have issues with reality.
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ZBug_
10/28/19 7:09:27 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
...seriously, does nobody realize that TDS is, like, the 18th incarnation of a conservative talking point that's now almost 20 years old?

The original "Derangement Syndrome" was "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - it's not a real thing and never was. It was a conservative columnist's tongue-in-cheek joke aimed at anti-Bush liberals; it was never meant to be taken seriously.

Naturally, morons took the ball and ran with it and haven't shut up about it since.

The point is that conservatives use it to disregard all arguments they dont agree with. Most people realize its not real, as far as actual mental disorders go. However that doesnt stop conservatives from saying it and making themselves look like stubborn jackasses, incapable of reason.
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zebatov
10/28/19 7:40:04 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's a phrase Conservatives use to suggest that liberals only use ad-hominem attacks against Trump and are never using logic etc.
I don't agree with it though. I mean, both sides have their uneducated ad hominem types.

I havent really seen any rational negative comments about him that I can recall.
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BlackScythe0
10/28/19 7:47:42 PM
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zebatov posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's a phrase Conservatives use to suggest that liberals only use ad-hominem attacks against Trump and are never using logic etc.
I don't agree with it though. I mean, both sides have their uneducated ad hominem types.

I havent really seen any rational negative comments about him that I can recall.

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Blighboy
10/28/19 8:00:25 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Sadly, "orange man bad" is only slightly worse than most of what the people complaining about Trump are vomiting out themselves, so all you're really doing is just complaining about two idiots metaphorically slap-fighting anyway.

The only way to really win one of those arguments is to not be one of the idiots involved in it in the first place.

PO just turned "Orange Man Bad" into like fifty words lmao
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BeerOnTap
10/28/19 8:40:53 PM
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Is this the pinnacle of your daily thought process?
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Zareth
10/28/19 8:44:52 PM
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Blighboy posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Sadly, "orange man bad" is only slightly worse than most of what the people complaining about Trump are vomiting out themselves, so all you're really doing is just complaining about two idiots metaphorically slap-fighting anyway.

The only way to really win one of those arguments is to not be one of the idiots involved in it in the first place.

PO just turned "Orange Man Bad" into like fifty words lmao

PO has written theses on why someone's proposed fictional technology wouldn't work.
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Aaantlion
10/28/19 9:33:22 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Sadly, "orange man bad" is only slightly worse than most of what the people complaining about Trump are vomiting out themselves, so all you're really doing is just complaining about two idiots metaphorically slap-fighting anyway.


At least "orange man bad" is mildly amusing, unlike what the ridiculous #nevertrump crowd spews. Political memes in general are pretty shit because most preach heavily to the choir and get played out very fast.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The only way to really win one of those arguments is to not be one of the idiots involved in it in the first place.


How about a nice game of chess instead?

papercup posted...
Wait do trumplets really say Trump critics are "deranged"? Do they just have 0 self awareness?


I like that you can say that without a trace of irony.

darkknight109 posted...
...seriously, does nobody realize that TDS is, like, the 18th incarnation of a conservative talking point that's now almost 20 years old?

The original "Derangement Syndrome" was "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - it's not a real thing and never was. It was a conservative columnist's tongue-in-cheek joke aimed at anti-Bush liberals; it was never meant to be taken seriously.


idk, man, sounds like a whataboutism to me!

In general, the term "Bush Derangement Syndrome" was never a big thing and, even at its worst, the Bush objections paled compared to the nonsense we see on a weekly basis about Trump. That said, almost 20 years later, there are still people who think that photo of Bush holding the kids' book upside down is real so some nonsense never goes away.

BlackScythe0 posted...
I'm pretty sure he's going to earn a spot at the second worst president in US history.


Which is a pretty solid example of an irrational opinion.

ZBug_ posted...
The point is that conservatives use it to disregard all arguments they dont agree with.


Really? Because I thought the point was to play something up to be far bigger than it is in an attempt to downplay the very real, irrationally toxic and utterly deranged subsection of Trump critics who spend more time thinking about Trump than even Trump does.

Other than that, you mean to suggest that one side of a political movement thinks the other side is crazy? I can't imagine THAT happening! >_>

ZBug_ posted...
Most people realize its not real, as far as actual mental disorders go.


The mods think it's real, which is why it's now a TOS violation to accuse people of having it. People were bitching on the mod board about being moderated for it.
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DirtBasedSoap
10/28/19 10:48:32 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Is this the pinnacle of your daily thought process?

this is something someone says to sound smart but they arent actually saying anything lmao
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Mead
10/28/19 11:05:07 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Is this the pinnacle of your daily thought process?


Is this yours?
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darkknight109
10/29/19 2:40:34 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
idk, man, sounds like a whataboutism to me!

Sounds like you have no idea what whataboutism is then.
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captpackrat
10/29/19 12:19:01 PM
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papercup posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
TDS


Tony Danza Surprise?

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Z6980
10/29/19 1:18:03 PM
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Have you heard the media praise Trump for literally anything though? Cause I haven't. Best I hear is a back-handed compliment. Whether that counts or not is up for debate, but...idk
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BlackScythe0
10/29/19 3:15:23 PM
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Best I hear is the media saying anytime we should praise him he always has a new scandal to report on. He doesn't know how to win he always has to be in a fight.
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gguirao
11/07/19 11:11:25 AM
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papercup posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
TDS


Tony Danza Surprise?

The Daily Show? They're great at bashing Trump.
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Fierce_Deity_08
11/07/19 11:43:51 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
TDS is a very real phenomenon though. Some of these people are seriously obsessed

Agreed! I didnt like the guy at all before he started running for President. I voted for him because I sure as heck wasnt going to vote for Hillary and I was willing to at least give him a chance. Some people are just not willing to see what he could really do for this country. I admit hes a bit of an idiot, but hes trying at least.
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TyVulpine
11/07/19 11:52:07 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
TDS are one of those things I've just never understood.

It's a derangement to see the world around you.

It's just so crazy to me because after all this time, after all the things he has done in office, it requires some form of derangement to still support such an objectively bad president. I'm pretty sure he's going to earn a spot at the second worst president in US history.

If TDS is real, it's a term for his supporters not those who exist in the real world.

It originally started as Bush Derangement Syndrome, then became Obama Derangement Syndrome, now Trump supporters think they're intelligent to have come up with Trump Derangement Syndrome all by themselves, even though they just continued the DS meme by swapping Obama with Trump.
Just how one side handwaves away any criticism of their Leader, as cults often do. The Leader is always right and is never to be questioned (hilarious as Trump supporters spent 8 years questioning and trashing Obama)
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Kyuubi4269
11/07/19 1:02:03 PM
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If someone agrees with Trump, you can just say "ok boomer".
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Yellow
11/07/19 3:31:44 PM
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Trump takes money from foreign governments in exchange for firearms, has wallstreet executives in his cabinet, and boosts the economy by gutting safety and economic stability regulations. He's as warhawkish as George Bush. He tells his millions of supporters supporters man-made climate change isn't real. All these things are objectively true facts. "Change my mind".

All that said he's so far from neutral in a time where we need a forward thinking president.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
"ok boomer"
Dumb fad. If everyone knew the facts there would be no president Trump.

There would still be the diehard fans, but they would be fringe.

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Phantom_Nook
11/07/19 4:03:50 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Some people are just not willing to see what he could really do for this country.

It's nothing good, is the reason.
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Lokarin
11/07/19 4:19:03 PM
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The best way to win an argument about Trump is to let Trump speak
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The_tall_midget
11/07/19 5:37:35 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's a phrase Conservatives use to suggest that liberals only use ad-hominem attacks against Trump and are never using logic etc.
I don't agree with it though. I mean, both sides have their uneducated ad hominem types.


Actually it's more of terms we use to describe people which empty lives can't go a single day without whining like little bitches about 1 person.

If I were to get up every day and curse 1 person and blame them for all the problems in my life, and then I were to go see a psychiatrist, they would more than likely tell me I have an unhealthy obsession with that person and, in very nice terms, tell me to get a life.

"ORANGE MAN BAD!" followed and or together with "TDS!" Is basically us doing that.
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WhiskeyDisk
11/07/19 5:39:06 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
if someone is expressing trump disapproval, just say Orange man bad and claim they have TDS. It completely nullifies any sort of argument they thought they had and you can just totally pwn the libs with zero repercussions!!!!


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Mad_Max
11/07/19 5:45:13 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Actually it's more of terms we use to describe people which empty lives can't go a single day without whining like little b****es about 1 person.

Says the dude who can't go a single day without whining about lefties or crying about the mods here.
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DirtBasedSoap
11/07/19 5:51:12 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's a phrase Conservatives use to suggest that liberals only use ad-hominem attacks against Trump and are never using logic etc.
I don't agree with it though. I mean, both sides have their uneducated ad hominem types.


Actually it's more of terms we use to describe people which empty lives can't go a single day without whining like little bitches about 1 person.

If I were to get up every day and curse 1 person and blame them for all the problems in my life, and then I were to go see a psychiatrist, they would more than likely tell me I have an unhealthy obsession with that person and, in very nice terms, tell me to get a life.

"ORANGE MAN BAD!" followed and or together with "TDS!" Is basically us doing that.


have you ever made a single post not crying about left wing politics..?
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TyVulpine
11/07/19 6:18:01 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's a phrase Conservatives use to suggest that liberals only use ad-hominem attacks against Trump and are never using logic etc.
I don't agree with it though. I mean, both sides have their uneducated ad hominem types.


Actually it's more of terms we use to describe people which empty lives can't go a single day without whining like little bitches about 1 person.

If I were to get up every day and curse 1 person and blame them for all the problems in my life, and then I were to go see a psychiatrist, they would more than likely tell me I have an unhealthy obsession with that person and, in very nice terms, tell me to get a life.

"ORANGE MAN BAD!" followed and or together with "TDS!" Is basically us doing that.

Like how Cult 45ers do and blame Hillary and/or Obama for every problem.
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wolfy42
11/07/19 6:31:25 PM
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Easy.

"Ok Boomers"

Done
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Raddest_Chad
11/07/19 6:41:18 PM
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OK, boomer came along at the perfect time. As most Trump supporters fall into that category, I'm sure.
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dancer62
11/07/19 7:59:16 PM
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Hil/billy is scary enough to shut most people up. What were the major political parties thinking last election? Certainly nothing like selecting the best and the brightest to represent the US. I'm tempted to say clowns, but I've studied with top-ranked Ringling Bros clowns, clowning is a highly trained and honorable profession.

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dancer62
11/07/19 7:59:49 PM
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Raddest_Chad posted...
OK, boomer came along at the perfect time. As most Trump supporters fall into that category, I'm sure.
Sure, kid.

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The_tall_midget
11/07/19 8:33:15 PM
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Raddest_Chad posted...
OK, boomer came along at the perfect time. As most Trump supporters fall into that category, I'm sure.


You mean people who actually contribute to society instead of demanding society pay everything for them?
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