Current Events > Jeez, Republicans have literally reversed their views of college in 4 years

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COVxy 11/09/19 12:08:05 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/pewresearch/status/1192034157133811713?s=19 --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:929889522] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/pewresearch/status/1192034157133811713?s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 11/09/19 12:09:57 PM #2:	Is that around when the "liberal training center" stuff starting making its rounds in conservative pundit shows? --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:929889564] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Is that around when the "liberal training center" stuff starting making its rounds in conservative pundit shows?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hutton 11/09/19 12:11:25 PM #3:	Gotta convince people education is bad because in order to keep them voting Republican --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy <cite>King_Hutton posted [p:929889618] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Gotta convince people education is bad because in order to keep them voting Republican</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 11/09/19 12:11:25 PM #4:	This question is too vague tbh. Like it is a bad thing that Americans are told to go to expensive colleges if they want to have a good job, but just going to college definitely doesn't guarantee a good job or a job at all. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:929889619] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>This question is too vague tbh. Like it is a bad thing that Americans are told to go to expensive colleges if they want to have a good job, but just going to college definitely doesn't guarantee a good job or a job at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 11/09/19 12:15:29 PM #5:	Those republicans didn't go to school <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:929889761] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Those republicans didn't go to school </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 11/09/19 12:18:40 PM #6:	With incidents at Berkeley and the student culture war crap making headlines over the past few years, yeah I can see why Republicans would switch their position on college. <cite>Phewfus posted [p:929889881] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>With incidents at Berkeley and the student culture war crap making headlines over the past few years, yeah I can see why Republicans would switch their position on college.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 11/09/19 12:19:34 PM #7:	Jabodie posted... Is that around when the "liberal training center" stuff starting making its rounds in conservative pundit shows? Also right around the time the protests against Milo speaking at Berkley became the hot button issue for all of conservative media and when they started throwing a never ending shit fit about "FREEDOMZ!" being repressed on college campuses. They then shaped their opinions based on what their media choices told them how to feel. --- https://youtu.be/rYy0o-J0x20?t=300 "Thank you, good night. I hope you're happy" <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:929889924] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Jabodie posted... </cite> <quote>Is that around when the "liberal training center" stuff starting making its rounds in conservative pundit shows?</quote> Also right around the time the protests against Milo speaking at Berkley became the hot button issue for all of conservative media and when they started throwing a never ending shit fit about "FREEDOMZ!" being repressed on college campuses. They then shaped their opinions based on what their media choices told them how to feel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 11/09/19 12:22:56 PM #9:	The GOP is a cult, and I don't see how you could possibly argue otherwise. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:929890069] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>The GOP is a cult, and I don't see how you could possibly argue otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 11/09/19 12:39:03 PM #10:	That one guy from Tennessee said higher education should be outlawed. Guess what party he was in? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:929890622] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>That one guy from Tennessee said higher education should be outlawed. Guess what party he was in?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/09/19 12:42:45 PM #11:	Phewfus posted... With incidents at Berkeley and the student culture war crap making headlines over the past few years, yeah I can see why Republicans would switch their position on college. Are you calling Republicans stupid? Since only a stupid person would think Berkeley = college in general --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:929890768] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Phewfus posted... </cite> <quote>With incidents at Berkeley and the student culture war crap making headlines over the past few years, yeah I can see why Republicans would switch their position on college.</quote>Are you calling Republicans stupid? Since only a stupid person would think Berkeley = college in general </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Comfy_Pillow 11/09/19 12:47:12 PM #12:	I mean the average college grad is in no way "educated." It's high school 2.0 outside of certain majors. Basically just paying for a diploma. <cite>Comfy_Pillow posted [p:929890922] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>I mean the average college grad is in no way "educated." It's high school 2.0 outside of certain majors. Basically just paying for a diploma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 11/09/19 1:04:09 PM #13:	santorum arguably started the anti-college trend in the gop back in '12 --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:929891489] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>santorum arguably started the anti-college trend in the gop back in '12</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 11/09/19 1:06:03 PM #14:	Jabodie posted... Is that around when the "liberal training center" stuff starting making its rounds in conservative pundit shows? 100% its like a cult --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:929891560] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Jabodie posted...</cite> <quote>Is that around when the "liberal training center" stuff starting making its rounds in conservative pundit shows?</quote> 100% its like a cult</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 11/09/19 1:10:45 PM #15:	ThyCorndog posted... Phewfus posted... With incidents at Berkeley and the student culture war crap making headlines over the past few years, yeah I can see why Republicans would switch their position on college. Are you calling Republicans stupid? Since only a stupid person would think Berkeley = college in general You mean like people using extreme examples to generalize entire groups and institutions? <cite>Phewfus posted [p:929891705] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>Phewfus posted... </cite> <quote>With incidents at Berkeley and the student culture war crap making headlines over the past few years, yeah I can see why Republicans would switch their position on college.</quote>Are you calling Republicans stupid? Since only a stupid person would think Berkeley = college in general </quote> You mean like people using extreme examples to generalize entire groups and institutions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/09/19 1:14:04 PM #16:	Phewfus posted... You mean like people using extreme examples to generalize entire groups and institutions? Yeah. Like when you see some "culture war" nonsense at Berkeley and then conflate that with all of higher education. Anyone who does that doesn't seem like a smart person to me. Is that where you were going with it? --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:929891829] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Phewfus posted... </cite> <quote>You mean like people using extreme examples to generalize entire groups and institutions?</quote>Yeah. Like when you see some "culture war" nonsense at Berkeley and then conflate that with all of higher education. Anyone who does that doesn't seem like a smart person to me. Is that where you were going with it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hutton 11/09/19 1:14:57 PM #17:	Comfy_Pillow posted... I mean the average college grad is in no way "educated." It's high school 2.0 outside of certain majors. Basically just paying for a diploma. Posts like this are so weird. Like you can say a degree is useless but pretending that its not education is just dumb. --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy <cite>King_Hutton posted [p:929891858] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>I mean the average college grad is in no way "educated." It's high school 2.0 outside of certain majors. Basically just paying for a diploma.</quote> Posts like this are so weird. Like you can say a degree is useless but pretending that its not education is just dumb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 11/10/19 9:00:10 PM #18:	King_Hutton posted... Comfy_Pillow posted... I mean the average college grad is in no way "educated." It's high school 2.0 outside of certain majors. Basically just paying for a diploma. Posts like this are so weird. Like you can say a degree is useless but pretending that its not education is just dumb. He clearly put that in quotes, so you should be able to understand what he means here. Graduating college taught me absolutely nothing about the economy, life, business, taxes, or anything that would qualify as applicable to the real world outside of college. You cant talk about education like its some broad enlightening thing when youre talking about something wasted teens and amateur alcoholics slay in the millions every year with not a damn given. What exactly makes college the line we draw for someone being "educated"? Theyre high school courses that youre allowed to be hungover for. If you can say someone without a degree is uneducated, why couldnt I say that only having your bachelors and not your masters makes you uneducated? --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:929954063] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>King_Hutton posted...</cite> <quote>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>I mean the average college grad is in no way "educated." It's high school 2.0 outside of certain majors. Basically just paying for a diploma.</quote> Posts like this are so weird. Like you can say a degree is useless but pretending that its not education is just dumb.</quote> He clearly put that in quotes, so you should be able to understand what he means here. Graduating college taught me absolutely nothing about the economy, life, business, taxes, or anything that would qualify as applicable to the real world outside of college. You cant talk about education like its some broad enlightening thing when youre talking about something wasted teens and amateur alcoholics slay in the millions every year with not a damn given. What exactly makes college the line we draw for someone being "educated"? Theyre high school courses that youre allowed to be hungover for. If you can say someone without a degree is uneducated, why couldnt I say that only having your bachelors and not your masters makes you uneducated?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMogALT 11/10/19 9:05:39 PM #19:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... He clearly put that in quotes, so you should be able to understand what he means here. Graduating college taught me absolutely nothing about the economy, life, business, taxes, or anything that would qualify as applicable to the real world outside of college. You cant talk about education like its some broad enlightening thing when youre talking about something wasted teens and amateur alcoholics slay in the millions every year with not a damn given. What exactly makes college the line we draw for someone being "educated"? Theyre high school courses that youre allowed to be hungover for. If you can say someone without a degree is uneducated, why couldnt I say that only having your bachelors and not your masters makes you uneducated? Who said someone without a degree is uneducated? You should have taken a logic course (seriously, discrete math is a great class). --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png <cite>ChocoboMogALT posted [p:929954290] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite> <quote>He clearly put that in quotes, so you should be able to understand what he means here. Graduating college taught me absolutely nothing about the economy, life, business, taxes, or anything that would qualify as applicable to the real world outside of college. You cant talk about education like its some broad enlightening thing when youre talking about something wasted teens and amateur alcoholics slay in the millions every year with not a damn given. What exactly makes college the line we draw for someone being "educated"? Theyre high school courses that youre allowed to be hungover for. If you can say someone without a degree is uneducated, why couldnt I say that only having your bachelors and not your masters makes you uneducated?</quote>Who said someone without a degree is uneducated? You should have taken a logic course (seriously, discrete math is a great class). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 11/10/19 9:14:55 PM #20:	They're good in concept but in execution they're financially crippling everyone, and student loans just enable them to jack up the prices higher and higher. Also, this one isn't their fault, but it's worth mentioning anyway: when you can't get a job anywhere but McD without at least one degree (more like two to not have a miserable time), they're further enabled to name their price. I dunno what the solution is but at present they're mostly solving problems they create themselves. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:929954677] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>They're good in concept but in execution they're financially crippling everyone, and student loans just enable them to jack up the prices higher and higher. Also, this one isn't their fault, but it's worth mentioning anyway: when you can't get a job anywhere but McD without at least one degree (more like two to not have a miserable time), they're further enabled to name their price. I dunno what the solution is but at present they're mostly solving problems they create themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 11/10/19 9:16:47 PM #21:	I mean, there is too much of a good thing on this --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:929954757] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>I mean, there is too much of a good thing on this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/10/19 9:20:08 PM #22:	DevsBro posted... They're good in concept but in execution they're financially crippling everyone they are not <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:929954878] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>They're good in concept but in execution they're financially crippling everyone</quote>they are not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 11/10/19 9:20:17 PM #23:	ChocoboMogALT posted... Who said someone without a degree is uneducated? Every employer ever. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:929954884] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>ChocoboMogALT posted...</cite> <quote>Who said someone without a degree is uneducated? </quote> Every employer ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/10/19 9:20:53 PM #24:	College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:929954908] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 11/10/19 9:21:18 PM #25:	Broseph_Stalin posted... DevsBro posted... They're good in concept but in execution they're financially crippling everyone they are not Pffffffffff ha --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:929954919] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>They're good in concept but in execution they're financially crippling everyone</quote>they are not </quote> Pffffffffff ha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/10/19 9:22:05 PM #26:	The Admiral posted... College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. ok boomer <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:929954950] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted... </cite> <quote>College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected.</quote>ok boomer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 11/10/19 9:22:27 PM #27:	The Admiral posted... College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education. King_Hutton posted... Gotta convince people education is bad because in order to keep them voting Republican <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:929954972] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education.</quote> King_Hutton posted...</cite> <quote>Gotta convince people education is bad because in order to keep them voting Republican</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 11/10/19 9:29:00 PM #28:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... Graduating college taught me absolutely nothing about the economy, life, business, taxes, or anything that would qualify as applicable to the real world outside of college. What do those things have to do with being "educated"? Like the idea of education has historically been about learning sciences, mathematics, things you associate with "academia". It has nothing to do with "life skills" or "on the job training". --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:929955255] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote>Graduating college taught me absolutely nothing about the economy, life, business, taxes, or anything that would qualify as applicable to the real world outside of college.</quote> What do those things have to do with being "educated"? Like the idea of education has historically been about learning sciences, mathematics, things you associate with "academia". It has nothing to do with "life skills" or "on the job training".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 11/10/19 9:29:33 PM #29:	The Admiral posted... College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education. How would you fix higher education, @The_Admiral? --- https://imgur.com/Asq1ds6 <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:929955272] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education.</quote> How would you fix higher education, @The_Admiral?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/10/19 9:31:00 PM #30:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... Pffffffffff ha It's true. The average student loan debt upon graduation is around $30k. But you're twice as likely to find a job as a high school graduate and median incomes for college graduates are $20k higher than high school graduates. College is the best investment you can make. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:929955325] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted... </cite> <quote>Pffffffffff ha</quote>It's true. The average student loan debt upon graduation is around $30k. But you're twice as likely to find a job as a high school graduate and median incomes for college graduates are $20k higher than high school graduates. College is the best investment you can make. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 11/10/19 9:31:02 PM #31:	Man the right wing users on here came out in full force to post about college is bad. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:929955327] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Man the right wing users on here came out in full force to post about college is bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 11/10/19 9:33:30 PM #32:	Are we all go to pretend that college is great to stick it to the GOP? Most colleges are extremely overpriced, a ton of "degrees" offered are completely useless, a lot of graduates never get jobs in the fields they got degrees in, a lot of grads never get a monetary return for their "education" and a lot of degrees are not even objective <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:929955431] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Are we all go to pretend that college is great to stick it to the GOP? Most colleges are extremely overpriced, a ton of "degrees" offered are completely useless, a lot of graduates never get jobs in the fields they got degrees in, a lot of grads never get a monetary return for their "education" and a lot of degrees are not even objective </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/10/19 9:34:23 PM #33:	Milkman5 posted... Most colleges are extremely overpriced, a ton of "degrees" offered are completely useless, a lot of graduates never get jobs in the fields they got degrees in, a lot of grads never get a monetary return for their "education" and a lot of degrees are not even objective Broseph_Stalin posted... The average student loan debt upon graduation is around $30k. But you're twice as likely to find a job as a high school graduate and median incomes for college graduates are $20k higher than high school graduates. College is the best investment you can make. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:929955470] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote>Most colleges are extremely overpriced, a ton of "degrees" offered are completely useless, a lot of graduates never get jobs in the fields they got degrees in, a lot of grads never get a monetary return for their "education" and a lot of degrees are not even objective</quote> Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>The average student loan debt upon graduation is around $30k. But you're twice as likely to find a job as a high school graduate and median incomes for college graduates are $20k higher than high school graduates. College is the best investment you can make.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Milkman5 11/10/19 9:45:01 PM #35:	Broseph_Stalin posted... The average student loan debt upon graduation is around $30k. But you're twice as likely to find a job as a high school graduate and median incomes for college graduates are $20k higher than high school graduates. College is the best investment you can make. Those studies prove nothing. Almost everyone nowadays goes to college. More than 70% of people who graduate high school go to college. Let's Person A is valedictorian, gets into Harvard and Person B barely graduated high school and didn't get into any university. Person A is probably more likely to succeed, right? But is it because they went to Harvard and earned a degree? Or is it because Person A has more qualities than lead to success. Are you telling me if college just stopped existing, that Person A wouldn't end up making more money that Person B per year? I bet college graduates, Ivy leaguers etc, have way higher IQs on average than people who never went to college. Did colleges give them their IQ, did they increase their IQ points? No, lmfao. It's why so many people who drop out of college willingly (not due to work ethic, or bad academic scores) end up successful. Because it's not the degree that gives these people their value or their abiltiy to earn a high income. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:929955888] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>The average student loan debt upon graduation is around $30k. But you're twice as likely to find a job as a high school graduate and median incomes for college graduates are $20k higher than high school graduates. College is the best investment you can make.</quote> Those studies prove nothing. Almost everyone nowadays goes to college. More than 70% of people who graduate high school go to college. Let's Person A is valedictorian, gets into Harvard and Person B barely graduated high school and didn't get into any university. Person A is probably more likely to succeed, right? But is it because they went to Harvard and earned a degree? Or is it because Person A has more qualities than lead to success. Are you telling me if college just stopped existing, that Person A wouldn't end up making more money that Person B per year? I bet college graduates, Ivy leaguers etc, have way higher IQs on average than people who never went to college. Did colleges give them their IQ, did they increase their IQ points? No, lmfao. It's why so many people who drop out of college willingly (not due to work ethic, or bad academic scores) end up successful. Because it's not the degree that gives these people their value or their abiltiy to earn a high income. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 11/10/19 9:46:15 PM #36:	They use those misleading statistics to justify their absurdly over-priced tuitions. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:929955930] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>They use those misleading statistics to justify their absurdly over-priced tuitions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Milkman5 11/10/19 9:50:25 PM #38:	Conflict posted... What alternative would you suggest It's less about it being "great" and more about there being like, no good alternatives. I see trade school get brought up a lot, but that's about it I don't really have any answers, it seems like there aren't enough jobs or careers for everyone. How am I supposed to solve that? College doesn't create more jobs, (well besides Professors who would basically be working at McDonalds if they couldn't teach intro Philosophy as USC. So many degrees only lead to jobs that teach the degree and don't serve any purpose besides this cycle. What job market is their for Philosophers besides teaching Philosphy?) I think it probably makes more sense to tackle that issue than it would be to pretend like colleges are a good idea for every person. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:929956107] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>What alternative would you suggest It's less about it being "great" and more about there being like, no good alternatives. I see trade school get brought up a lot, but that's about it</quote> I don't really have any answers, it seems like there aren't enough jobs or careers for everyone. How am I supposed to solve that? College doesn't create more jobs, (well besides Professors who would basically be working at McDonalds if they couldn't teach intro Philosophy as USC. So many degrees only lead to jobs that teach the degree and don't serve any purpose besides this cycle. What job market is their for Philosophers besides teaching Philosphy?) I think it probably makes more sense to tackle that issue than it would be to pretend like colleges are a good idea for every person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 11/10/19 9:51:55 PM #39:	It's probably more interesting and productive to talk about Basic Income and other creative forms of welfare than it is to tell everyone they should go to college and give some sleazebag 80,000 dollars to teach them liberal arts <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:929956157] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>It's probably more interesting and productive to talk about Basic Income and other creative forms of welfare than it is to tell everyone they should go to college and give some sleazebag 80,000 dollars to teach them liberal arts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/10/19 9:56:03 PM #40:	Milkman5 posted... Almost everyone nowadays goes to college. Only a third of Americans over 25 have a Bachelor's degree, actually. This isn't rocket science, borrowing 30k to make 20k more on average every year is a good investment. You're literally saying something that pays for itself many times over isn't worth the investment. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:929956321] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote>Almost everyone nowadays goes to college.</quote>Only a third of Americans over 25 have a Bachelor's degree, actually. This isn't rocket science, borrowing 30k to make 20k more on average every year is a good investment. You're literally saying something that pays for itself many times over isn't worth the investment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 11/10/19 11:56:52 PM #41:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Only a third of Americans over 25 have a Bachelor's degree, actually. That includes people who graduated college decades ago. It says nothing about how many people go to college "these days", as the aforequoted puts it. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:929960944] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Only a third of Americans over 25 have a Bachelor's degree, actually.</quote> That includes people who graduated college decades ago. It says nothing about how many people go to college "these days", as the aforequoted puts it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 11/11/19 12:04:48 AM #42:	Lack of education is valuable to Republican voter bases in a lot of parts of the country --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:929961179] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Lack of education is valuable to Republican voter bases in a lot of parts of the country </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 11/11/19 12:08:36 AM #43:	sLaCkEr408___RJ posted... Those republicans didn't go to school They did, on their daddy's coattails. Probably skipped all the classes, tried dosing all the girls, and still graduated. --- Time is a funny thing. There is always too much of it, except when you need it the most. Then there is never enough. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:929961301] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...</cite> <quote>Those republicans didn't go to school </quote> They did, on their daddy's coattails. Probably skipped all the classes, tried dosing all the girls, and still graduated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 11/11/19 12:24:17 AM #44:	The Admiral posted... College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education. Which colleges have safe spaces with play doh and puppies? There were plenty of colleges with safe spaces before Trump was elected, it was a form of counseling support (unless you are opposed to that). <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:929961753] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education.</quote> Which colleges have safe spaces with play doh and puppies? There were plenty of colleges with safe spaces before Trump was elected, it was a form of counseling support (unless you are opposed to that).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/11/19 12:40:06 AM #45:	DevsBro posted... That includes people who graduated college decades ago. It says nothing about how many people go to college "these days", as the aforequoted puts it. Less than 40% of Americans age 25-29 have a Bachelor's degree. College is the literal opposite of a scam. Stop arguing with me. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:929962197] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>That includes people who graduated college decades ago. It says nothing about how many people go to college "these days", as the aforequoted puts it.</quote>Less than 40% of Americans age 25-29 have a Bachelor's degree. College is the literal opposite of a scam. Stop arguing with me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/11/19 12:51:33 AM #46:	Ruvan22 posted... The Admiral posted... College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education. Which colleges have safe spaces with play doh and puppies? There were plenty of colleges with safe spaces before Trump was elected, it was a form of counseling support (unless you are opposed to that). Far too many https://www.thedailybeast.com/elite-campuses-offer-students-coloring-books-puppies-to-get-over-trump --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:929962495] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education.</quote> Which colleges have safe spaces with play doh and puppies? There were plenty of colleges with safe spaces before Trump was elected, it was a form of counseling support (unless you are opposed to that).</quote> Far too many https://www.thedailybeast.com/elite-campuses-offer-students-coloring-books-puppies-to-get-over-trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/11/19 12:54:50 AM #47:	Conflict posted... Milkman5 posted... Are we all go to pretend that college is great to stick it to the GOP? Most colleges are extremely overpriced, a ton of "degrees" offered are completely useless, a lot of graduates never get jobs in the fields they got degrees in, a lot of grads never get a monetary return for their "education" and a lot of degrees are not even objective What alternative would you suggest It's less about it being "great" and more about there being like, no good alternatives. I see trade school get brought up a lot, but that's about it The aforementioned trade school. Or military. Or pick up some good, applicable certifications. <cite>Esrac posted [p:929962573] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>Are we all go to pretend that college is great to stick it to the GOP? Most colleges are extremely overpriced, a ton of "degrees" offered are completely useless, a lot of graduates never get jobs in the fields they got degrees in, a lot of grads never get a monetary return for their "education" and a lot of degrees are not even objective </quote> What alternative would you suggest It's less about it being "great" and more about there being like, no good alternatives. I see trade school get brought up a lot, but that's about it</quote> The aforementioned trade school. Or military. Or pick up some good, applicable certifications.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/11/19 12:58:35 AM #48:	IIRC, you have a bachelor's degree, don't you Admiral? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:929962669] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>IIRC, you have a bachelor's degree, don't you Admiral? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 11/11/19 1:00:36 AM #49:	The Admiral posted... Ruvan22 posted... The Admiral posted... College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education. Which colleges have safe spaces with play doh and puppies? There were plenty of colleges with safe spaces before Trump was elected, it was a form of counseling support (unless you are opposed to that). Far too many https://www.thedailybeast.com/elite-campuses-offer-students-coloring-books-puppies-to-get-over-trump They list three... out of the tens of thousands in the US? You consider that "far too many"? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:929962720] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>College is adult kindergarten with some children so fragile that universities needed safe spaces with play-doh and puppies after Trump was elected. The fallacy that liberals keep making is conflating modern universities with education.</quote> Which colleges have safe spaces with play doh and puppies? There were plenty of colleges with safe spaces before Trump was elected, it was a form of counseling support (unless you are opposed to that).</quote> Far too many https://www.thedailybeast.com/elite-campuses-offer-students-coloring-books-puppies-to-get-over-trump</quote> They list three... out of the tens of thousands in the US? You consider that "far too many"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/11/19 1:01:03 AM #50:	Bachelor's and MBA --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:929962734] in Jeez, Repu... [t:78147137]...</cite> <quote>Bachelor's and MBA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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